Re: [CTRL] Sex & Security Risks
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated Fri, 12 Mar 1999 07:44:14 EST, "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >However, since my response to >you, I have recalled telling someone something I wish I had not said. It was >an occasion in the military. A black friend was experiencing some problems >with the school about one of her children. It was very clearly a matter of >discrimination. She asked for my help in writing a letter to the base >commander. I helped her, and I don't know what legal correspondence is like, >but apparently the base must have thought she had hired an attorney. I >received a telephone call from one of the installation chaplains who asked me >(in a very roundabout way) if I had helped her write the letter. I told him I >had, and the incident was blown off with the usual casual military manner. I >wish I had not told him the truth, but I'm sure the commander was happy, >because he didn't have to worry about dealing with a civilian lawyer about the >discrimination. I did learn from the situation, of course. I no longer >trust "men of the cloth" any more than I trust anyone else (which is very, >very little). Prudy I must say that your response has made me a little more content with this discussion forum as a whole. The honest, sincere manner of your reply is refreshing in CTRL, where it seems the rule is to be pretentious as to one's supposed knowledge of the current and historical (which many have obviously stretched to their limits and beyond) and to adopt some sort of hard-ass "official investigator of all conspiracies" persona. They take themselves (and what they plagiarize--I mean "write") all too seriously. I am glad to see your caring, human side. It's what makes us outraged by evils such as conspiracy, cruelty, and prejudice. Without it, we are no more than shovellers of someone else's shit : we just move the "information" they produce from one place to another for them and lose all context and human perspective as to why the things they do are crimes against free people with basic human rights. I hope I haven't tarnished your ex-military hard-ass image by painting you as a sensitive human being ! Feel free to bless me out in a reply. ;-) Verify the lie, HOFFA DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sex & Security Risks
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/11/99 5:40:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Wow! Never? You are certainly the most wise, prudent, consistent person I have ever communicated with! Congratulations! Most of us imperfect humans have had a slip of the lip now and then, especially in stressful, nervous, or intimate times in our lives. >> Maybe I just really don't trust anyone as much as you do. I've often marveled at the degree of trust I see. People will drink or whatever to the point where they must depend on others (frequently strangers) to see to it that they come out all right. They will tell co-workers things they wouldn't tell their mother. For example, Monica telling all and perhaps all-plus to a woman she had to know was angry and seeking revenge on the Clinton White House. However, since my response to you, I have recalled telling someone something I wish I had not said. It was an occasion in the military. A black friend was experiencing some problems with the school about one of her children. It was very clearly a matter of discrimination. She asked for my help in writing a letter to the base commander. I helped her, and I don't know what legal correspondence is like, but apparently the base must have thought she had hired an attorney. I received a telephone call from one of the installation chaplains who asked me (in a very roundabout way) if I had helped her write the letter. I told him I had, and the incident was blown off with the usual casual military manner. I wish I had not told him the truth, but I'm sure the commander was happy, because he didn't have to worry about dealing with a civilian lawyer about the discrimination. I did learn from the situation, of course. I no longer trust "men of the cloth" any more than I trust anyone else (which is very, very little). Prudy DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sex & Security Risks
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:59:20 EST, "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >We're not talking about secret fears here. No, but I thought a common example would help in generalizing the psychology of sharing something confidential with someone who is close. Some of the basic tenets of human psychology are pervasive throughout our lives, not just in our professional or private lives alone. We do act differently in different environments, but it's all part of our basic psychological make-up. Is it so hard for you to make the generalization to which I'm referring, or, as evidenced by the tone of your writing, are you just trying to be antagonistic to someone who has offered you no offense? > And I don't think I've ever told >anybody anything that I minded them repeating. I will admit that >sometimes I wish they would repeat it correctly. Prudy Wow! Never? You are certainly the most wise, prudent, consistent person I have ever communicated with! Congratulations! Most of us imperfect humans have had a slip of the lip now and then, especially in stressful, nervous, or intimate times in our lives. HOFFA P.S. ALWAYS be suspicious of someone who uses "always" or "never" in their conversations, and NEVER trust a stranger who uses too many snappy sayings to prove his points.;-) DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sex & Security Risks
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/11/99 11:35:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << them, even if you are just having a heartless fling. Have you ever told a past love some secret fear, etc. that you now wish you hadn't? >> We're not talking about secret fears here. And I don't think I've ever told anybody anything that I minded them repeating. I will admit that sometimes I wish they would repeat it correctly. Prudy DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
