Re: [CTRL] WT: Who controls Elian? (fwd)
On 28 Apr 00, at 1:19, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: > It is Mr. Craig who decides who snaps photos > and who doesn't. It is Mr. Craig who decides who > gets in to see Elian and who doesn't. In the > latter category fall all of Elian's lawyers, all > of the media and, of course, all of Elian's > Miami family. To qualify as one of Mr. Craig's > chosen people, one must come from either the > National Council of Churches or the Cuban > Interests Section. This is very confusing and certainly I am no expert on the laws involved, but it seems to me that through various legal processes the INS and the courts had given guardianship of Elian to his uncle, and it was under this guardianship that asylum was being pursued as a possibility for the boy. Then the Attorney General ignores the courts and gives guardianship of Elian to his father? The boy is seized at gunpoint and the peacable protestors trying to prevent exactly such a raid are teargassed and peppergassed and the "Miami relatives" are said to have nothing more to do with the boy and no legal rights or no rights to even familial concern. The public is told that the boy "belongs" with his father, although the father's name was not even on his birth certificate. Can the Attorney General just ignore a court ruling that has given guardianship to a relative other than the father? Can the Attorney General ignore court rulings? And are all parents and relatives who have had a DUI unfit to care for their children? What will happen if all children who have parents who have had a DUI are taken from their parents because their parents are viewed as unfit? I find this absolutely bewildering and am distressed that "most Americans" find the seizure of Elian acceptable. Can this really be true? Does it matter if Elian goes from one police state to another? sno0wl http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WT: Who controls Elian? (fwd)
>On Thursday, the appeals court rejected a > request from Elian's Miami relatives for visitation > rights with the boy or to have the court appoint a > neutral, temporary guardian. Yes, now the Miami gang is whining about getting the same treatment they meted out to Juan Miguel Gonzalez...they didn't ever want to consider a 'neutral, temporary guardian' when they held Elian hostage, and Juan Miguel was seeking to meet with his own son... >After daily, televised global media access to the > shipwrecked six-year-old for five solid months, Elian A more accurate description would be 'five sordid months'... >It is Mr. Craig who decides who snaps photos > and who doesn't. It is Mr. Craig who decides who > gets in to see Elian and who doesn't. In the latter > category fall all of Elian's lawyers, all of the media > and, of course, all of Elian's Miami family. To qualify > as one of Mr. Craig's chosen people, one must come > from either the National Council of Churches or the > Cuban Interests Section. I don't see where this is any different than what the Miami gang did...they also were very selective in who had access to Elian. The only difference is that they constantly exposed the child to a media circus, while now the child is in seclusion, as he should have been from the beginning. >Absence of evidence? Since Fidel Castro himself > has broadcast his plans for Elian a three month > re-education program right off the bat Why is 're-education' [sic] considered 'persecution'? June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
