Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First European

1999-12-14 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Tatman, Robert wrote:
Yes, of course...I had forgotten "the Head" in *That Hideous Strength*. I
first read the Perelandra Trilogy in seventh grade, and came back to it only
a couple of years ago. June, you're absolutely right about Lewis's
prescience. The book is  chilling...and perhaps Lewis's best writing aside
from *The Screwtape Letters*.

Like Lewis, I 'much prefer bats to bureaucrats...'


June ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First European

1999-12-13 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Yes, of course...I had forgotten "the Head" in *That Hideous Strength*. I
first read the Perelandra Trilogy in seventh grade, and came back to it only
a couple of years ago. June, you're absolutely right about Lewis's
prescience. The book is  chilling...and perhaps Lewis's best writing aside
from *The Screwtape Letters*.

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 From: YnrChyldzWyld [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 5:19 PM
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 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First "European"

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 On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Tatman, Robert wrote:
 It's related to Baphomet, and also to the talking brass head that Roger
 Bacon is supposed to have had. BTW, for an excellent historical fantasy
 based on the Gerbert story, see Judith Tarr's *Ars Magica*--a
 well-written,
 meticulously-researched novel by a trained medievalist.

 For another relatively modern spin on the 'talking head' and its
 use by evil forces, read "That Hideous Strength", the third book
 in C. S. Lewis' "Perelandra" trilogy...

 I reread it a couple of years ago (having originally read it in the early
 70s), and was impressed with how prescient Lewis was in predicting what
 is now modern society...especially his vision of a world run by a
 superconglomerate, a 'new world order', as it were...


 June ;-)



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Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First European

1999-12-11 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Tatman, Robert wrote:
It's related to Baphomet, and also to the talking brass head that Roger
Bacon is supposed to have had. BTW, for an excellent historical fantasy
based on the Gerbert story, see Judith Tarr's *Ars Magica*--a well-written,
meticulously-researched novel by a trained medievalist.

For another relatively modern spin on the 'talking head' and its
use by evil forces, read "That Hideous Strength", the third book
in C. S. Lewis' "Perelandra" trilogy...

I reread it a couple of years ago (having originally read it in the early
70s), and was impressed with how prescient Lewis was in predicting what
is now modern society...especially his vision of a world run by a
superconglomerate, a 'new world order', as it were...


June ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First European

1999-12-11 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 12/11/99 5:19:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 For another relatively modern spin on the 'talking head' and its
  use by evil forces, read "That Hideous Strength", the third book
  in C. S. Lewis' "Perelandra" trilogy...

  I reread it a couple of years ago (having originally read it in the early
  70s), and was impressed with how prescient Lewis was in predicting what
  is now modern society...especially his vision of a world run by a
  superconglomerate, a 'new world order', as it were...


  June ;-)


Excelent point June, a story I'm familiar with.  Lewis had all kinds of neat
stuff in that book, a resurrected Merlin, a new Pendragon descendant of
Arthur, the talking head which ran the show in the "NWO" collective, Templar
like "blasphemies" for initiatives, secret tombs, etc.  I highly recommend
Lewis' "Space Trilogy" which is full of good stuff, and is just a plain good
read.

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Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First European

1999-12-10 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 12/10/99 12:02:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's related to Baphomet, and also to the talking brass head that Roger
  Bacon is supposed to have had. BTW, for an excellent historical fantasy
  based on the Gerbert story, see Judith Tarr's *Ars Magica*--a well-written,
  meticulously-researched novel by a trained medievalist.


Thanks for the tip.  Incidentally what is with all of these talking heads?!?!
 Is their some alchemical or Kabbalic underpinning or other occultic
significance?  Is the head "possessed" by something or someone?  Or is it a
piece of technology just responding to input like a computer or some such.  I
was just curious if anyone has any input on this topic, where did all the
talking heads come from and what is the "magical" significance to them?
(Besides the fact that they ARE heads and that they DO talk which is
"magical" in itself).

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  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
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Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First European

1999-12-09 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 12/8/99 6:29:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

  "Some say that he prayed to Satan to save him from the
  magician, and that Satan wafted him away beyond the sea. In order
  to get home, Gerbert agreed to give his soul to Satan, and Satan,
  in turn, promised to give him powers even greater than those
  contained in the book of spells. The proof that this story is the
  correct one is found in the fact that Gerbert kept a human head
  with him and would put the head on his desk and converse with it
  through the night, learning many secrets and about the future
  from it."

Sounds suspiciously like the Baphomet head of the Templars.

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  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
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hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
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  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu"

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