Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First European
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Tatman, Robert wrote: Yes, of course...I had forgotten "the Head" in *That Hideous Strength*. I first read the Perelandra Trilogy in seventh grade, and came back to it only a couple of years ago. June, you're absolutely right about Lewis's prescience. The book is chilling...and perhaps Lewis's best writing aside from *The Screwtape Letters*. Like Lewis, I 'much prefer bats to bureaucrats...' June ;-) |===SEASONS===GREETINGS==| | \ /| | *~o) )_ )_ )_ )_ - * - | | |`--) , ,_),_),_),_/ / \| | ``^^^`` /~\/~\/~\/~\| || | / / / | | | \ / (((((( -+- | | - * -.-#--..-#-..--#-. | | | /|\/__\ /_\ /__\ /-\ | |__//|\\| [] [] || [] [] || [] [] |___/---\___ldb__| artist -SheDragon (Laura) (ldb) *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First European
-Caveat Lector- Yes, of course...I had forgotten "the Head" in *That Hideous Strength*. I first read the Perelandra Trilogy in seventh grade, and came back to it only a couple of years ago. June, you're absolutely right about Lewis's prescience. The book is chilling...and perhaps Lewis's best writing aside from *The Screwtape Letters*. -Original Message- From: YnrChyldzWyld [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 5:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First "European" -Caveat Lector- On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Tatman, Robert wrote: It's related to Baphomet, and also to the talking brass head that Roger Bacon is supposed to have had. BTW, for an excellent historical fantasy based on the Gerbert story, see Judith Tarr's *Ars Magica*--a well-written, meticulously-researched novel by a trained medievalist. For another relatively modern spin on the 'talking head' and its use by evil forces, read "That Hideous Strength", the third book in C. S. Lewis' "Perelandra" trilogy... I reread it a couple of years ago (having originally read it in the early 70s), and was impressed with how prescient Lewis was in predicting what is now modern society...especially his vision of a world run by a superconglomerate, a 'new world order', as it were... June ;-) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First European
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Tatman, Robert wrote: It's related to Baphomet, and also to the talking brass head that Roger Bacon is supposed to have had. BTW, for an excellent historical fantasy based on the Gerbert story, see Judith Tarr's *Ars Magica*--a well-written, meticulously-researched novel by a trained medievalist. For another relatively modern spin on the 'talking head' and its use by evil forces, read "That Hideous Strength", the third book in C. S. Lewis' "Perelandra" trilogy... I reread it a couple of years ago (having originally read it in the early 70s), and was impressed with how prescient Lewis was in predicting what is now modern society...especially his vision of a world run by a superconglomerate, a 'new world order', as it were... June ;-) *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First European
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/11/99 5:19:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For another relatively modern spin on the 'talking head' and its use by evil forces, read "That Hideous Strength", the third book in C. S. Lewis' "Perelandra" trilogy... I reread it a couple of years ago (having originally read it in the early 70s), and was impressed with how prescient Lewis was in predicting what is now modern society...especially his vision of a world run by a superconglomerate, a 'new world order', as it were... June ;-) Excelent point June, a story I'm familiar with. Lewis had all kinds of neat stuff in that book, a resurrected Merlin, a new Pendragon descendant of Arthur, the talking head which ran the show in the "NWO" collective, Templar like "blasphemies" for initiatives, secret tombs, etc. I highly recommend Lewis' "Space Trilogy" which is full of good stuff, and is just a plain good read. ** *** "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, "The Matrix". "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First European
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/10/99 12:02:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's related to Baphomet, and also to the talking brass head that Roger Bacon is supposed to have had. BTW, for an excellent historical fantasy based on the Gerbert story, see Judith Tarr's *Ars Magica*--a well-written, meticulously-researched novel by a trained medievalist. Thanks for the tip. Incidentally what is with all of these talking heads?!?! Is their some alchemical or Kabbalic underpinning or other occultic significance? Is the head "possessed" by something or someone? Or is it a piece of technology just responding to input like a computer or some such. I was just curious if anyone has any input on this topic, where did all the talking heads come from and what is the "magical" significance to them? (Besides the fact that they ARE heads and that they DO talk which is "magical" in itself). ** *** "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, "The Matrix". "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Y1K and GERBERT, the First European
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/8/99 6:29:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Some say that he prayed to Satan to save him from the magician, and that Satan wafted him away beyond the sea. In order to get home, Gerbert agreed to give his soul to Satan, and Satan, in turn, promised to give him powers even greater than those contained in the book of spells. The proof that this story is the correct one is found in the fact that Gerbert kept a human head with him and would put the head on his desk and converse with it through the night, learning many secrets and about the future from it." Sounds suspiciously like the Baphomet head of the Templars. ** *** "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, "The Matrix". "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om