Re: NetBSD 9.99.1 Quick Question
> > On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, Rhialto wrote: > > On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 22:52:56 +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > > Is there any preference on which Xorg I should use on a new > > > installation: modular or native? > > > I personally prefer native, since I consider X to be part of the > > operating system (or at least not part of the extra software that is > > installed according to the taste of the user). > Same here - I've always used the in-tree native X, and never even looked at > the pkgsrc stuff. > | Paul Goyette My thought was if NetBSD developers might want users to test native X. But my recent trouble with pkg_rolling-replace gives me another reason to use native X and take a lot of stuff out of pkg_rolling-replace territory. I have one NetBSD-current amd64 installation where I am able to startx, but startx doesn't start on my i386 installations. Tom
Re: NetBSD 9.99.1 Quick Question
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, Rhialto wrote: On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 22:52:56 +, Thomas Mueller wrote: Is there any preference on which Xorg I should use on a new installation: modular or native? I personally prefer native, since I consider X to be part of the operating system (or at least not part of the extra software that is installed according to the taste of the user). Same here - I've always used the in-tree native X, and never even looked at the pkgsrc stuff. ++--+---+ | Paul Goyette | PGP Key fingerprint: | E-mail addresses: | | (Retired) | FA29 0E3B 35AF E8AE 6651 | p...@whooppee.com | | Software Developer | 0786 F758 55DE 53BA 7731 | pgoye...@netbsd.org | ++--+---+
Re: NetBSD 9.99.1 Quick Question
from Greg Troxel: > Paul Goyette writes: > > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >> How do users of 8.99.51 and earlier 8.99.x decide whether to go with > >> 9.99.1 or 9.0_BETA? > >> I am on > >> NetBSD amelia2 8.99.51 NetBSD 8.99.51 (NetBSD-HEAD amd64.nb899-20190723) > >> #1: Tue Jul 23 13:35:29 GMT 2019 > >> root@amelia2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/SANDY7 amd64 > >> as I type this; also built i386 from the same source tree. > > If you were previously on 8.99.x then you were tracking -current and > > not any particular release. IMHO you should now track the 9.99.x > > series, as that is the new -current! > I would say that the most helpful thing to do to help the NetBSD > community is to switch to netbsd-9, and test it, and report issues. > Then when it's released, you can go back to current if you feel like it. > > If you intend to deploy a stable 9.0 release (rather than tracking > > -current) I would recommend installing 9.0-BETA to help us make the > > release as "solid" as possible. > Sure, but even people who don't need to deploy stable can help. 7.99.1 and 8.99.1 seemed to stay around for a long time, so I am surprised to see current already on 9.99.2. For my own needs, I'm inclined to stay with current branch , now 9.99.2, though I could also try 9.0_BETA to help get out a stable 9.0_RELEASE. I would want to be able to boot by UEFI wherever possible. I was not able to untangle the packages/pkg_rolling-replace mess, but I got some useful additional packages like gtar and findutils, useful for trying to cross-compile linux toolchains, which is what I am now working on. I still have problems in NetBSD-current, like having to disable athn to be able to boot, and generic kernel rebooting immediately without any screen messages. Is there any preference on which Xorg I should use on a new installation: modular or native? Tom
Re: NetBSD 9.99.1 Quick Question
Paul Goyette writes: > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >> How do users of 8.99.51 and earlier 8.99.x decide whether to go with >> 9.99.1 or 9.0_BETA? >> >> I am on >> >> NetBSD amelia2 8.99.51 NetBSD 8.99.51 (NetBSD-HEAD amd64.nb899-20190723) #1: >> Tue Jul 23 13:35:29 GMT 2019 >> root@amelia2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/SANDY7 amd64 >> >> as I type this; also built i386 from the same source tree. > > If you were previously on 8.99.x then you were tracking -current and > not any particular release. IMHO you should now track the 9.99.x > series, as that is the new -current! I would say that the most helpful thing to do to help the NetBSD community is to switch to netbsd-9, and test it, and report issues. Then when it's released, you can go back to current if you feel like it. > If you intend to deploy a stable 9.0 release (rather than tracking > -current) I would recommend installing 9.0-BETA to help us make the > release as "solid" as possible. Sure, but even people who don't need to deploy stable can help.
Re: NetBSD 9.99.1 Quick Question
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Thomas Mueller wrote: How do users of 8.99.51 and earlier 8.99.x decide whether to go with 9.99.1 or 9.0_BETA? I am on NetBSD amelia2 8.99.51 NetBSD 8.99.51 (NetBSD-HEAD amd64.nb899-20190723) #1: Tue Jul 23 13:35:29 GMT 2019 root@amelia2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/SANDY7 amd64 as I type this; also built i386 from the same source tree. If you were previously on 8.99.x then you were tracking -current and not any particular release. IMHO you should now track the 9.99.x series, as that is the new -current! If you intend to deploy a stable 9.0 release (rather than tracking -current) I would recommend installing 9.0-BETA to help us make the release as "solid" as possible. ++--+---+ | Paul Goyette | PGP Key fingerprint: | E-mail addresses: | | (Retired) | FA29 0E3B 35AF E8AE 6651 | p...@whooppee.com | | Software Developer | 0786 F758 55DE 53BA 7731 | pgoye...@netbsd.org | ++--+---+
Re: NetBSD 9.99.1 Quick Question
> Perfect! > On 7/31/19, 1:31 PM, "J. Lewis Muir" wrote: > On 07/31, Ron Georgia wrote: > > I noticed that images and sets for NetBSD 9.99.1 is out. I have a > > totally noob question. According to the docs this would be current fo r > > version 10. Does this mean version 9 will be released soon? Sorry for > > my exuberant impatience. > FYI, just today there was a message on netbsd-announce related to that > (not directly an answer to your question, though): > https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-announce/2019/07/31/msg000301.ht ml > Regards, > Lewis How do users of 8.99.51 and earlier 8.99.x decide whether to go with 9.99.1 or 9.0_BETA? I am on NetBSD amelia2 8.99.51 NetBSD 8.99.51 (NetBSD-HEAD amd64.nb899-20190723) #1: Tue Jul 23 13:35:29 GMT 2019 root@amelia2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/SANDY7 amd64 as I type this; also built i386 from the same source tree. Tom
Re: NetBSD 9.99.1 Quick Question
Perfect! On 7/31/19, 1:31 PM, "J. Lewis Muir" wrote: On 07/31, Ron Georgia wrote: > I noticed that images and sets for NetBSD 9.99.1 is out. I have a > totally noob question. According to the docs this would be current for > version 10. Does this mean version 9 will be released soon? Sorry for > my exuberant impatience. FYI, just today there was a message on netbsd-announce related to that (not directly an answer to your question, though): https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-announce/2019/07/31/msg000301.html Regards, Lewis
Re: NetBSD 9.99.1 Quick Question
On 07/31, Ron Georgia wrote: > I noticed that images and sets for NetBSD 9.99.1 is out. I have a > totally noob question. According to the docs this would be current for > version 10. Does this mean version 9 will be released soon? Sorry for > my exuberant impatience. FYI, just today there was a message on netbsd-announce related to that (not directly an answer to your question, though): https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-announce/2019/07/31/msg000301.html Regards, Lewis
