re: amdgpu laptops with 10 & current?
nia writes: > The ThinkPad A485 looks pretty interesting for use with NetBSD. [ ... ] > - AMD Radeon Vega 6, 8 or 10 > > Usually I prefer the smaller X series, but they've made them > non-upgradable and harder to repair... > > ethernet is re0, this is different from the intel models that are [ ... ] i have an a495s that doesn't work so great, but i also have an a475 that does work pretty well. the onboard re(4) works fine for an re(4) on both (i have the dongle that rjs hinted at for the 495s.) my a475 has a12-9800B cpu (4c 2.7ghz, 3.6ghz turbo), and i think it calls the GPU an "R7", it is an amdgpu and it works fine. the a475 almost suspend/resumes properly. USB3 is broken afterwards. i'm pretty happy with the a475, though it could be faster. the a495s amdgpu doesn't work for me, though the default fb is good enough for basic X usage (firefox without video works.) i haven't played as much with this because my system has a bad battery and won't stay powered on unplugged. what this means is .. an a485 may be some what broken, but perhaps not as broken as the a495s is? :) .mrg.
Re: amdgpu laptops with 10 & current?
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:39:21PM +, nia wrote: > > Which reminds me: whatever happened to the new wifi project? [..] > So, still ongoing, just slowly Yes, sorry about that - it will get a lot more attention now that 10.0, 9.4 and 8.3 are out of the door. Martin
Re: amdgpu laptops with 10 & current?
Almost forgot - SunplusIT Inc (0x5986) Integrated Camera works, but only first 1-1.5 seconds, then it just shows a static image On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 11:05 PM Vitaly Shevtsov wrote: > > I have this laptop (T495) :) > > Intel Wireless AC 9260 - doesn't work > amdgpu - doesn't work. I use "gop 6" in /boot.cfg and xf86-video-wsfb, > but it's slow > > Also I have this issue with a sound chip - > https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2023/11/26/msg044739.html > Bluetooth works but it should be initialized in MS Windows first, then > you can reboot a laptop (reboot, not shutdown) and the chip will have > a loaded firmware > > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:39 PM nia wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 02:34:47PM +0100, Patrick Welche wrote: > > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 07:14:35AM +, nia wrote: > > > > WiFi may be Intel AX200/AX201/AX210/AX211 but it might depend. > > > > We don't have a driver for this. Previous models had iwm(4) which > > > > is a slow and buggy driver making a USB urtwn(4) the more compelling > > > > option, or urndis(4) with a tether to a smartphone. > > > > Another dmesg shows Intel Wireless AC 8265, which is iwm(4). > > > > > > Which reminds me: whatever happened to the new wifi project? > > > > Last few commits: > > > > 3 weeks ago > > Phil Nelson > > State save. Work to get msi-x interrupts working. Still not working. > > 2 months ago > > Martin Husemann > > Fix merge botch > > 2 months ago > > Martin Husemann > > Fix merge errors > > 6 months ago > > Phil Nelson > > State save, interrupt support added to iwlwifi, not working yet. > > > > So, still ongoing, just slowly
Re: amdgpu laptops with 10 & current?
I have this laptop (T495) :) Intel Wireless AC 9260 - doesn't work amdgpu - doesn't work. I use "gop 6" in /boot.cfg and xf86-video-wsfb, but it's slow Also I have this issue with a sound chip - https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2023/11/26/msg044739.html Bluetooth works but it should be initialized in MS Windows first, then you can reboot a laptop (reboot, not shutdown) and the chip will have a loaded firmware On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:39 PM nia wrote: > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 02:34:47PM +0100, Patrick Welche wrote: > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 07:14:35AM +, nia wrote: > > > WiFi may be Intel AX200/AX201/AX210/AX211 but it might depend. > > > We don't have a driver for this. Previous models had iwm(4) which > > > is a slow and buggy driver making a USB urtwn(4) the more compelling > > > option, or urndis(4) with a tether to a smartphone. > > > Another dmesg shows Intel Wireless AC 8265, which is iwm(4). > > > > Which reminds me: whatever happened to the new wifi project? > > Last few commits: > > 3 weeks ago > Phil Nelson > State save. Work to get msi-x interrupts working. Still not working. > 2 months ago > Martin Husemann > Fix merge botch > 2 months ago > Martin Husemann > Fix merge errors > 6 months ago > Phil Nelson > State save, interrupt support added to iwlwifi, not working yet. > > So, still ongoing, just slowly
Re: amdgpu laptops with 10 & current?
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 02:34:47PM +0100, Patrick Welche wrote: > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 07:14:35AM +, nia wrote: > > WiFi may be Intel AX200/AX201/AX210/AX211 but it might depend. > > We don't have a driver for this. Previous models had iwm(4) which > > is a slow and buggy driver making a USB urtwn(4) the more compelling > > option, or urndis(4) with a tether to a smartphone. > > Another dmesg shows Intel Wireless AC 8265, which is iwm(4). > > Which reminds me: whatever happened to the new wifi project? Last few commits: 3 weeks ago Phil Nelson State save. Work to get msi-x interrupts working. Still not working. 2 months ago Martin Husemann Fix merge botch 2 months ago Martin Husemann Fix merge errors 6 months ago Phil Nelson State save, interrupt support added to iwlwifi, not working yet. So, still ongoing, just slowly
Re: amdgpu laptops with 10 & current?
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 07:14:35AM +, nia wrote: > WiFi may be Intel AX200/AX201/AX210/AX211 but it might depend. > We don't have a driver for this. Previous models had iwm(4) which > is a slow and buggy driver making a USB urtwn(4) the more compelling > option, or urndis(4) with a tether to a smartphone. > Another dmesg shows Intel Wireless AC 8265, which is iwm(4). Which reminds me: whatever happened to the new wifi project? Cheers, Patrick
Re: amdgpu laptops with 10 & current?
nia wrote: > The ThinkPad A485 looks pretty interesting for use with NetBSD. > > - 1st Gen AMD Ryzen Mobile > - 32 GiB DDR4 2400 MHz > - AMD Radeon Vega 6, 8 or 10 > > Usually I prefer the smaller X series, but they've made them > non-upgradable and harder to repair... Prompted by abs@, I got a reconditioned T495S. > ethernet is re0, this is different from the intel models that are > usually wm0. internal dev chatter would point to wm(4) being the > better driver, but probably not enough to matter for my purposes > (100mbit/s DSL). I usually use ethernet at home. The T495S needs a Lenovo specific dongle to use the re(4) device, it was cheaper to get an axen(4) device to use in the USB-C port so haven't tried the re(4). > Anyone using amdgpu with a device like this? I'm sure llvmpipe > is okay(tm), would be nice to have the runtime configuration > advantages of modesetting though. It doesn't really work with amdgpu, fails to attach maybe 9 times out of 10 and hangs whenever I try to use it. Have seen a report that Linux 5.6 doesn't work either but later revisions do, not spotted anything obvious in later DRM drivers to try though. The integrated camera doesn't work on the T495S, I think this is a limitation of our xhci driver.
Re: amdgpu laptops with 10 & current?
On Tue, 14 May 2024 at 08:14, nia wrote: > > The ThinkPad A485 looks pretty interesting for use with NetBSD. > > - 1st Gen AMD Ryzen Mobile > - 32 GiB DDR4 2400 MHz > - AMD Radeon Vega 6, 8 or 10 > > Usually I prefer the smaller X series, but they've made them > non-upgradable and harder to repair... > > ethernet is re0, this is different from the intel models that are > usually wm0. internal dev chatter would point to wm(4) being the > better driver, but probably not enough to matter for my purposes > (100mbit/s DSL). I usually use ethernet at home. > > WiFi may be Intel AX200/AX201/AX210/AX211 but it might depend. > We don't have a driver for this. Previous models had iwm(4) which > is a slow and buggy driver making a USB urtwn(4) the more compelling > option, or urndis(4) with a tether to a smartphone. > Another dmesg shows Intel Wireless AC 8265, which is iwm(4). > > Lenovo laptops have control freak firmware that doesn't allow changing > the card for a different model, but I wonder if it can be removed > to reduce power consumption and allow suspend to function. > > Anyone using amdgpu with a device like this? I'm sure llvmpipe > is okay(tm), would be nice to have the runtime configuration > advantages of modesetting though. The ThinkPad T495 is probably relatively close: AMD Ryzen 3, 5 or 7 PRO, Vega 6, 8 or 10, re(4), and Intel Wireless AC 9260 https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view=7159 (dmesg is from 10-BETA before riastradh@ fixed the issue affecting acpibat) It was fast enough, but I had to drop back to my T480 to be able to drive an external monitor David
