CS: Target-Shooters Support Airgunners
From: "Tom Charnock", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim, Fantastic to see your support for all forms of shooters, we need more good souls like you. I think we all agree that the volume of airgunners are not into clubs and are therefore impossible to get organised. But what is going to happen when the HASC report comes out with the final proposals? This I am told will be pretty soon, and it looks ugly for these guys out there on their own. Need to get the message out to them, and them into one of the airgun clubs to get the fight going stronger. I wonder if the fishing sports are now thinking that they could well be next for "control"? Maybe they would like to support shooting as well? We all have a common interest as minority sports Again, thanks for your support of all shooting sports Tom C Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-Revolver tribute to shot Beatle
From: "Paul McDermott", [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not clear whether this statue was merely "unveiled" in Trafalgar Square or whether it is to be a perminent fixture there, if the latter is true then it is a disgrace and I doubt it will survive another march unscathed. Why is it a disgrace? Do they not have a right to their opinion? Are you upset by what they did to the Python? You seem to feel vandalism is 'the way forward'? Paul McDermott? -- I've seen this sculpture before, can't remember where exactly, it was in the US somewhere, some sort of anti-violence symbol. Looks as though they've dug it up and shipped it over here. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-Gun-grabbers: masters of the New Plantation
From: Thomas A Chandler, [EMAIL PROTECTED] FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA EDITORS: IN FOURTH-TO-LAST PARAGRAPH OF THIS VERSION ONLY, NOTE USE OF POSSIBLY OBJECTIONABLE TERM 'NIGGERTOWN.' ADDITIONALLY: A SHORTER VERSION, AT 900 WORDS, ALSO MOVES FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED JULY 16, 2000 THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz Gun-grabbers: masters of the New Plantation Last time we dug into Yale Law professor Akhil Reed Amar's impressive 1998 tome "The Bill of Rights" (due out in paperback this month), the good professor -- neither a gun owner nor in any sense a "right-wing militia nut" -- demonstrated through historical research that the gun-grabbers are wrong: The Second Amendment does not merely protect firearms ownership by active duty members of the National Guard. Rather, it conveys the right to own and carry weapons of military usefulness to all Americans. But now that this undead golem of those who despise our Bill of Rights is down, let's proceed to stake it through the heart. For you see -- while the Second Amendment is "sufficient" to guarantee the right of citizens to own machine guns (not to mention rifles, pistols, "assault weapons," and shoulder-launched missiles) -- it's not even the best guarantee of this right. The whole debate over the "Second" Amendment, professor Amar points out, has largely distracted us from considering a pair of enactments even more directly on point: the 14th Amendment and the original, 1866, Civil Rights Act. We rejoin professor Amar at page 258: "At the Founding, the right of the people to keep and bear arms stood shoulder to shoulder with the right to vote; arms bearing in militias embodied a paradigmatic "political" right. ... But Reconstruction Republicans recast arms bearing as a core "civil" right, utterly divorced from the militia and other political rights and responsibilities. Arms were needed not as part of political and politicized militia service but to protect one's individual homestead. Everyone -- even nonvoting, nonmilitia-serving women -- had a right to a gun for self-protection. ... "The Creation vision was public, with the militia muster on the town square. The Reconstruction vision was private, with individual freedmen keeping guns at home to ward of Klansmen and other ruffians. ... "Alongside ...the Civil Rights Act of 1866 ... Congress passed the Freedman's Bureau Act, a sister statute introduced the same day by the same sponsor. ... The Freedman's Bureau Act affirmed that 'laws ... concerning "personal" liberty, "personal" property,"personal" security, and the acquisition, enjoyment and disposition of estate, real and "personal, including the constitutional right to bear arms" shall be secured to and enjoyed by all citizens. ...' Thus, the Reconstruction Congress expressly repudiated "Dred Scott"'s claim that because free blacks could never be citizens, they lacked many of these basic rights." Allow me to interrupt the good professor to point out that the opposite also holds true. Though modern-day black Americans tend to despise antebellum Supreme Court Chief Justice Roger Taney for ruling in "Dred Scott" that black Americans were neither citizens nor men, they might want to go back and re-read his logic. They will find the devil unintentionally gave them their due. Taney said blacks could not be considered men or citizens, because if they were so considered, "there would be no option but to allow them to own and carry arms without restriction." Quick, now: which side won the Civil War? Can a law-abiding black citizen today buy a 30-caliber machine gun and drive it home in the back of his pickup truck without seeking massa's "permission"? Why was the 14th Amendment -- darling of the left when it appears to justify the expansion of federal power -- enacted? Professor Amar explains: "Southern states, ever fearful of slave insurrections, enacted sweeping antebellum laws prohibiting not just slaves but free blacks from owning guns. In response, antislavery theorists emphasized the personal right of all free citizens -- white and black, male and female, northern and southern, visitor and resident -- to own guns for self-protection." Really? But what chance does a law-abiding citizen of any color have today, of carrying his self-defense pistol with him if he chooses to visit the collectivist metropolises of Los Angeles, Washington or New York City? "In the 1846 case "Nunn vs. Georgia", professor Amar continues, "the proslavery contrarian Chief Justice Joseph Henry Lumpkin proclaimed not only that the Second Amendment bound the states but also that 'The right [is guaranteed to] the whole people, old and young, men, women, and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not merely as are used by the militia.' ... "Roger Taney and [prominent abolitionist] Joel Tiffany hardly saw eye to eye in the 1850s, but they both agreed on this: "if" free blacks were citizens, it would necessarily
CS: Pol-toddlers find sawn-off shotgun
From: Adrian, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two toddlers were discovered playing a deadly game after they found a loaded sawn-off shotgun dumped by criminals. A police armed response team was sent to deal with the incident. Why armed? Were they expecting to shoot the toddlers or the parents? -- Adrian Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-BASC visit No 10
From: "Pete Ansbro", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Straw / /declined to take the letter and petition. Isn't that rather pathetic from a member of the Government? It's not as if it could have been a summons in connection with minor drugs trafficking. What on earth might he hope to achieve, other than an unnecessary act of discourtesy, by refusing to accept the letter and petition? Pete Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-toddlers find sawn-off shotgun
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Manchester Evening News, 13 July 2000 Toddlers' game with a loaded gun by Neal Keeling Two toddlers wer discovered playing a deadly game after they found a loaded sawn-off shotgun dumped by criminals. --snip-- The mother has now started a petition to get the bushes, which have been in the street for more than 20 years, removed. [...] Concerning that last statement, removing the bushes is supposed to accomplish . . . what? Well, heck, why not remove every last bush, tree, and level every knoll in sight in order to have a clear view of the whole darned countryside! And while she's at it, lets make every house (and clothes too) transparent. Seems to me that the kid's mother is trying to cover for the lack of her own attentiveness. "Go play outside, kiddies!" Yup, and don't overlook what mummy should have seen by a careful observation of just where she was sending those kids to play. Why is it that logic is sorely lacking in modern man? ET Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Misc-Clarification of latin quote
From: "John Sukey", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The sword is not a killer, it is a tool in the hands of a killer. Need the latin text. It Did appear in the last few days on the forum. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-Revolver tribute to shot Beatle
From: "Christopher Fettweis", [EMAIL PROTECTED] As of two weeks ago, it was still there. But maybe they over-nighted it. Chris Steven Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/14/00 10:32AM From: "Christopher Fettweis", INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve - It's in front of the UN in NYC. Chris -- Is it still there or have they just shipped it over to Trafalgar Square? Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
