CS: Pol-Israeli Riot Control.
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps more interesting is that exactly such a scenario was detailed in the writings of Jeff Cooper in his book "To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth." It's in a chapter called "The Rimfire in Riot Control". Read it, and then read the account given here on the Israeli deployment. This is not a matter of similarity. The Israeli report is a textbook application of Cooper's technique, which he proposed on the theoretical level. Dale -- I think it's more likely to be a low velocity .223. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Legal-who's educating who?
From: "Matthew Wright", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't forget a pistol is required with the flesh wagon and .32 does seem to be the preferred calibre. Depending on how things were presented I think the idea of an "injured" fox might be misleading, if it was caught by hounds it would be dead very quickly indeed. A pistol would be used to despatch a fox bolted from an earth. Otherwise it would be a case of humane killing of a variety of animals nothing to do with hunting itself but as a service to farmers. I'm interested in the information used on the course, is it possible to post the lecture notes? Matthew Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Legal-teletext
From: "Matthew Wright", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think we need to watch this development very carefully as it is an angle that has been mooted before as a possible requirement on shooters ie that anyone going shooting should inform the police when and where they are going. For some it is part of a process of suggestions aimed at making shooting unviable. It may also be interesting to know who is making complaints and whether complaints are coming from people who are opposed to live quarry shooting. Some sections of the fieldsports community are all to familiar with the tactics aimed at grinding them down and it was interesting to read the antis submissions to the Burns Inquiry which said that because the police were having to be deployed to keep order at hunts then hunting should be banned. This is actually a very clever and cynical tactic and I don't aim to spell out the even bigger issues for a shoot. Hence we need to be aware of any games the antis are playing and how these games will move through fieldsports. Matthew Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Crime-Shot sniper wanted to be killed by the police
From: RustyBullethole, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Express 19.10.00 Shot sniper wanted to be killed by the police EXCLUSIVE BY HARRY COOKE AN ex-mercenary shot dead by police deliberately provoked officers in a bid to get himself killed. Army deserter Kirk Davies, who had a violent past, is believed to have planned his suicide by copying a trend in the US. An increasing number of people, including army veterans, are dying there in gunfights with the law. They are dubbed "police- assisted suicides." The latest was in New York. Davies, 30, who had a spell as a sniper during the war in Yugoslavia, is thought to have read about the incidents in specialist magazines which he had sent to him from abroad. When he died after being cornered in a wood, Davies was armed with an air rifle draped with camouflage webbing to make it look like an assault weapon. Only 24 hours before his death he had walked, dressed all in black, into a police station at Selby, North Yorks, and levelled a weapon at the desk sergeant. Davies had discussed such a confrontation with a long-serving police officer. They met in a pub where Davies, who triggered an armed alert across two counties, insisted on going through the likely eventualities of such a clash with police. A police chief said: "He asked whether a helicopter would be used in the search and what would happen to anyone who faced up to police in this way. He was told it would be stupidity and that anyone acting like this was almost certain to be shot. "He was discussing his own suicide but there was nothing the officer could do at the time. He told Davies not to be silly, dismissing it as the talk of someone who'd had too much to drink." A police spokesman said: "Davies was known in the area for bragging about his fighting exploits and making wild threats and claims. There would be no reason to take him seriously." Davies, father of a two-year-old boy, drove from Selby, where he lived, to a secure psychiatric unit near Wakefield, 30 miles away. Police were alerted after he asked to see a woman he mistakenly believed was working there. He was challenged about the weapon he was carrying but fled along a dirt track into woods. He was challenged again and shots were fired by police. Davies died hours later in Pinderfields hospital, Wakefield, from a single wound to the abdomen. He had been inspired from childhood by his father's stories of thrilling military service with the SAS. Davies served with the Duke of Wellington's Regiment in Ulster, Canada and the Falklands before deserting to seek adventure in the Balkans. He returned to Yorkshire when his mother revealed that his father had only been a truck driver with the Royal Corps of Transport and had never seen action. Davies went berserk, smashing up his father's car with an iron bar and a machete. At the time he was wearing a Croatian army uniform, York Crown Court was told in l997. The hearing heard about his gruesome record of service with the Croatian special forces and was told that he was haunted by the faces of his 46 victims, including children. A nine-month jail sentence was reduced to two years probation on appeal after a judge was told that Davies suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder. He later worked as a security guard and labourer, living with his partner Kathryn Wadsworth, 38, at Osgodby, near Selby. A neighbour said: "He hated authority and was always threatening to do something or other. "We weren't sorry to see the back of him. He was always making people feel uncomfortable, as if he could blow up any time." His death is now being investigated by the Police Complaints Authority. -- I thought it had already been established that he wasn't a sniper? Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-new uniform for US soldiers
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Army's New Uniform Code Intended to Boost Morale By Roberto Suro Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday , October 17, 2000 All U.S. Army soldiers including the clerks and the cooks and not just Special Forces commandos and Rangers will get to wear berets under a morale-building move to be announced by the Army command today. In a speech set to be delivered this afternoon, Gen. Eric K. Shinseki, the Army chief of staff, will tell an Army convention that this "symbol of excellence" once reserved for members of elite units will be made available to all soldiers as "a signal to the young that we are moving, we are changing." Shinseki previewed his speech in an interview, saying the details of the new uniform code are still to be worked out and will not go into effect until next June. What color berets? Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Legal-flick knives
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flick knives have been banned for 30 years. The copper in the prog said they had been banned since 1971, I thought they had been banned since the 50's? Possibly the prevention of crime act 1953? Jonathan Laws -- I have been told in the past they were banned in 1971, I don't know for certain. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Misc-No bangs, no smoking gun
From: "The Isherwood's", [EMAIL PROTECTED] 180 to 220 grains of 300 Whisper perhaps ??? Regards, Paul Snipers adage ... "One shot - one kill - no worries" Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Misc-A Corporal the Germans just couldn't kill
From: RustyBullethole, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Express 19.10.00 A Corporal the Germans just couldn't kill BY ALUN REES He was a brave young corporal who was gassed, bayoneted, buried alive and chewed by rats all in one day. But against all the odds World War One soldier George Webber survived. And now the letters, postcards, medals and even a piece of shrapnel which are part of his recently- discovered story are to go on sale. Auctioneers Dominic Winter stumbled across the details of the indestructible Welshman while preparing items for a military sale in November. Richard Brook, spokes-man for the Swindon firm, said: "This is the most exceptional personal history from the First World War I have ever come across. "Corporal Webber is a complete unknown. The extraordinary story has stayed within his family for the last 82 years and only came to light when the family decided to sell his collection. "He was an exceptional character who made a complete recovery from the most atrocious wounds and went on to lead a quiet life as a railway guardsman. "Ironically he died in 1949 when two medicines he was prescribed by his doctor reacted with each other and poisoned him. It really is very sad when you think about all that he went through." Corporal Webber, from Newport, Gwent, enlisted at the start of the war in 1914, joining the First Monmouthshire Regi-ment, and fought at Ypres and Arras before transferring to the newly-formed Tank Division in 1916 as a driver. His received his atrocious wounds in December 1917 at the Battle of Cambrai in Northern France during a German counter-attack. In a letter written for the sale, his family explain how he was overcome with mustard gas during the fighting. While he struggled for breath an explosion went off nearby, spraying his left side with shrapnel and knocking him off his feet. Then, as he lay helpless on the ground an advancing German soldier bayonetted him from front to back. Unconscious and bleeding, he was assumed dead by his comrades who buried him in a shallow grave. But, as the letter explains, he regained consciousness and then realised he had been buried. The letter goes on: "Eventually George managed to push his hand up through the earth - which must have been some time later because part of his chest had been eaten by rats. Fortunately he was spotted and dug up." He later underwent 23 operations and eventually made a full recovery. Among the items for sale will be his bayonet and a piece of shrapnel taken from his body. --- Ah, you can always rely on a bad doctor to finish anyone off. Rusty Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Misc-Land Warrior - you decide!
From: SADW, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't remain silent any longer on Land Warrior. The article below is something I wrote for SADW a little while back. I think it more than amply counters the hoopla which this system is generating elsewhere. Nick Steadman -- GAO READS THE RIOT ACT ON LAND WARRIOR PROJECT: a mid-Dec 99 US General Accounting Office report (GAO/NSIAD-00-28) on Battlefield Automation, which we have carefully studied, was highly critical of the US army/USMC $2.1 billion Land Warrior project, led by the army, which was embarked upon in Jan 96. The equipment was originally scheduled to be fielded by Sep 2000. As readers will recall, Land Warrior (aka 21st Century Soldier, Future Soldier or Soldier 21) is the suite of new weapon accessories (gun videos, laser rangefinders, thermal weapon sights, close combat optics, digital compasses, laser aiming pointers etc), a helmet-mounted head-up display (with image intensifiers and laser detectors), protective clothing (including body armour), load-carrying equipment, radio communications, GPS, battlefield personal computers (with touch-screen panels) associated software. It's all planned eventually to accompany the Objective Individual Combat Weapon (OICW), but in the short term would be deployed in conjunction with the M16A2 with the Modular Weapon System upgrade, allowing a 'mix match' selection of the new sighting systems and 'black boxes' to be clamped above the receiver or around the handguard. The basic project cost has already increased by $700m from an initial estimate of $1.4 billion, and Land Warrior will now not be adopted on time because the necessary technologies have not yet been fully perfected; the new fielding forecast is for FY 2004, 'at the earliest'. GAO said that, in view of the size of the budget for Land Warrior, oversight of the project has been inadequate. Land Warrior will reportedly not yet inter-operate with the army's Force XXI digitised battlefield system for brigade lower formations, and army staff have obtained a waiver deferring the date by which this should be resolved until well after Land Warrior may eventually be fielded. So, for the time being, data cannot be transmitted between the two systems, since the necessary software has yet to be developed. This means, for example, that troops with Land Warrior would be unable to report enemy sightings or call in air or artillery strikes using their digitally-enhanced equipment. And it would be unlikely to improve their 'situational awareness' in any way. Furthermore, GAO said, unresolved technical and 'human factor' problems may make Land Warrior ineffective. The equipment is overweight, poorly designed and uncomfortable, battery power is inadequate, battery logistics 'uncertain' and there are problems of electromagnetic interference. The load-carrying harness attracted special criticism, with GAO saying that troops had difficulty raising their heads high enough in the prone position to fire their weapons, since their backpacks rode up and forced their helmets forward. In fact, we recall this was a specific criticism that arose from the very first trials of Land Warrior. Even worse, when troops rolled on their backs, the new equipment held their bodies too far off the ground, temporarily producing a 'stranded turtle' effect, ie troops were stuck there! As far back as Sep 96, GAO says, it warned that Land Warrior was an expensive, high risk project, that inter-operability had yet to be demonstrated and that technical and ergonomic problems were unresolved, citing (for example) the fact that the battery for the computer radio only ran for under two instead of the planned 12 hours, and that the equipment was so heavy uncomfortable that it impeded troops' movement. At that time it recommended purchase be deferred pending clarification of the requirement and resolution of technical shortcomings. It also wanted the army to ensure that troops with Land Warrior equipment could 'outperform' those with existing equipment. GAO said all the army had done since then was to clarify the requirement at 34,000 systems, and that so far the project had not yielded any 'workable prototypes'. One reason may be that the army had increasingly opted to develop new technologies instead of using tried tested ideas. In detail, GAO commented that:- - Land Warrior prototype systems delivered for testing in Apr 98 failed airborne certification because the computer/radio system could not be worn beneath a parachute and instead had to be placed in a jump bag attached to the soldier and tossed out first. It also took up too much space on a plane. When jumping, some troops got entangled in the equipment and when the jump bag finally hit the ground, the equipment was damaged. - There were interference problems with this equipment when elements were used in close proximity to each other, and electronic emissions exceeded
