CS: Pol-Face values..
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] While defending an individuals rights to wear what they like, I do, however, consider that those, who insist on wearing camo gear on range, to be doing the sport a grave dis-service. To use cost and warmth and suitability as an excuse is nonsense, try getting on to a Golf course wearing a pair of cut off jeans, or camo gear for that matter. For any sport to have respectability it needs to have a code of conduct, which includes a dress code, clearly "camo style clothing" is seen by the press and the anti's as sinister, why give them ammunition to harm us. Keep up the good work Bob Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
CS: Pol-The March : Slogans
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do wish we could get away from the use of the word Handgun, they are Pistols. Bob Blake Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
CS: Misc-organisations
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can think of a few, how about; GBTSF ETSF ESSU British 1500 Association Welsh Pistol Association Welsh Shooting Federation Scotish Shooting Federation IOM Shooting Council Ulster Small-bore Shooting Union Guernsey Shooting Fereration There must be a lot more. And a few from Jersey; Jersey Firearms Council Firearm Users Group Jersey Shooting Federation Jersey Rifle Association Jersey Pistol Association Jersey Small-Bore Shooting Association Jersey Clay Target Association Jersey ML & Antique Firearms Association Jersey Vintage Arms Association Modern & Military Arms Association Jersey Rough Shooters Association Accuracy Association of Jersey (Association of re-loaders) Please let me know if you require details of any of the above Bob Blake -- There's the IOM Pistol Association. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
CS: Misc-Proofing
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The egg is received with thanks, but not yet cracked. I am still unable to find any reference to Proofing or Proofed in the OED, it may be that my edition is earlier than yours, so will accept that there is an entry under Proof Sheet / etching. However, the main point, is the lack of reference under the entry for Firearms and gunpowder. As I collector of old paper money proofs and plates I am aware of the term "Proofing" when checking the detail of a proof pull, but always considered this different from testing the integrity of a firearm or ammunition. I always thought the term "Proofing" was a slang shortening of "Proof reading". The ball, or the egg, is back with you, or is it better that we both agree to share it. Keep up the good work Bob Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
CS: Pol-Mowlam approves guns deal
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this for real? is Mo Mowlam really suggesting that it is OK for a British Copper to shoot a man with a chair leg but not OK for a Jamaican Copper to defend himself when shot at by real criminals. Jamaica is one of the most lawless places on earth and I am surprized that the figures stated are so low. I seem to recall that there is a Death Sentence for possession of a firearm in Jamaica, so I cannot see a criminal giving up, when the best survival option is to fight it out. Keep up the good work Bob Blake -- Jamaica has tough gun laws, but there is not a death sentence for illegal possession. During the 70s they had what was known as the Gun Courts Act, essentially detaining people without trial in a "gun court", i.e. a prison. This was repealed because it didn't work. Last I heard it is possible to get a license for self-defence in Jamaica. At one time they only allowed up to .38 Special or .380, but I know someone who has authority for a 9mm and he tells me it isn't that hard to convince the police provided you have a good reason. He also tells me that it is legal to use lethal force in defence of property in Jamaica. Anything over 9mm is hard to get. Apparently the Jamaican police will issue it sometimes, as he told me of an IPSC shooter he knows who has a .45, but larger calibres are only allowed for target shooting. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
CS: Misc-Proofing
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dare I ask, what has the American Heritage Dictionary got to do with the English language? I would consider the custodian of the English language to be the Oxford English Dictionary. Bob Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
CS: Misc-Proofing
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with Steve. An inspection of the Oxford Dictionary will confirm that there are no such words as proofed or proofing. An item is sent for "proof" (ie proof of its integrity), when done it said to be "proved" (ie its integrity has been proved), the act itself is "proving" (ie proving its integrity or otherwise) Keep up the good work Bob Blake Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
CS: Target-Pistols at Commonwealth Games
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >The commitment to consider allowing pistol shooting in major international >games held in this country was meant to cater for prestige multi-event >competitions such as the Olympic or Commonwealth Games. It was never >intended to be applied to a single-discipline competition such as the one >mentioned by Mr Loweth, even at World Championship level." By multi-event competitions, does he mean multi-all sports or multi-shooting events. The Commonwealth Shooting Federation Championships are to be held at Bisley from 22nd August to 2nd September 2001and will be a mirror of the Commonwealth Games shooting events. >Is it now not time to get ready to stage a mass picket of the Bisley Pistol >Ranges in 2002 in an attempt to persuade the competitors to shoot but not to >register their cards for a score? I think this would be the wrong way, the way to get pistol shooting back is to run a top level event for our Commonwealth visitors (please rember that a comitment has been made) and show Government that top level shooting sports events can, and should by run in the UK. Keep up the good work Bob Blake Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-RX Products- Where are they ?
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] RX is now called Militec Limited (changed in 1997), Unit 16, CwnCynon Business Park, Mountain Ash, Mid Glamorgan, CF45 4ER, email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tel: 01443 476849, Fax: 01443 478822. Contact name Bob Lewis Bob Blake Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Legal-Ryan
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I'm not sure that Ryan's club membership is relevant > as there was no legal requirement to be a member of a > club prior to the 1997 Act. > > Steve. >But they did give him authority for it even though he only >had access to a pistol range. Therefore he could not >satisfy the good reason requirement. Are we not missing the point? No amount of controls would have stopped these evil individuals from committing mass murder. For shooters to openly advocate stricter controls on legal ownership of firearms, as a way of somehow "preventing" such crimes, is a sure way of killing off the shooting sports. Bob Blake Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-BBC Crime Squad letter
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Considering these 2 killing sprees, were they stoppable? YES, IF the police had applied the existing laws correctly. Ryan was given his full license and an AK47 despite not being a full Club Member (he was still a probationer and should not have been issued a full licence). The facts regarding Hamiliton are even clearer, the Detective sent to check out his gun Licence renewal, wrote to his Chief Constable saying he should NOT have his licence renewed. He was overridden, and the Chief Constable signed Hamiltons licence and the death warrant for all those children. What nonsense, evil people do evil things, had they not had legal firearms they would have used illegal ones and if they were unable to get firearms, they would make a bomb, mown people down with a car or used petrol, they were intent on making a point and access to firearms was incidental to the act. It is interesting to note, however, that the worst mass murders in the UK have been arson, perhaps the use of firearms in other cases in fact saved lives? Keep up the good work Bob Blake -- I'm not sure that Ryan's club membership is relevant as there was no legal requirement to be a member of a club prior to the 1997 Act. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-Mick Gault on the Olympics
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I must disagree with Bob, Mick's average score in UIT >Centrefire, Freepistol and Standard Pistol (as well as >Air Pistol) were all above 550. I have been shooting >next to Mick on at least two occasions when he broke >the British UIT Centrefire record. Is it any wonder >he can't win a quota place with restrictions on practice! There are no quota places for Centrefire and Standard Pistol as they are not Olympic events, the only Olympic events that are restricted in England are Free Pistol and Rapid Fire for men and Sport Pistol for women. Mick's average in Centrefire and Standard was much higher than Free Pistol. Mick's 1997 GB Squad averages (for 1998 squad) were Centrefire 583.33, Standard DNC, Free Pistol 557.67. >Even when Mick did win a quota place in one discipline >we sent another shooter instead I believe (this was at >the last Olympics). I fully agree, but the quota place belongs to your country, not you. >everal of our pistol shooters could have attended but >didn't (the overall competitor numbers at some of the >Olympic shooting events was pretty low and I can't >believe it was because of lackof range space and time). The Olympic events have a limit on competitors, Free Pistol 30, Air Pistol 30, Rapid Fire 20, Ladies Sport Pistol 25 and Ladies Air Pistol 30. No British Pistol Shooters could have attended as GB did not have any Pistol Quota places. Full details of how the Olympic Shooting events work can be found on the ISSF website. Regards Bob Blake Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-Modern Pentathlon
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most ISSF Air Pistol Shooters wear ear muffs, it helps keep out spectator sounds and aids concentration. Bob Blake Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-Mick Gault on the Olympics
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Since the Firearms Amendment 1997 people in Britain, are not allowed to keep pistols, and this includes those involved with the sport. Of course, I am absolutely over the moon for Richard Faulds who won the gold medal for the men's clay pigeon shoot-out, but it's sad that the pistol team could not be competing, too. It's also frustrating that the average score for pistol >shooters in Sydney is 550, when mine is 582. Hi All I must take issue with the above, Mick's average of 582 is for ISSF Air Pistol (10m .177), a dicipline that is not banned in England. The 550 average mentioned is clearly for ISSF Free Pistol (50m single shot.22lr) Mick shot in several Olympic Qualifing events for Air Pistol but did not obtain a position that would give GB a quota place. While I agree that a different attitude to the Shooting Sports would help, we cannot blame the ban on cartridge pistols on the lack of shooters in still legal diciplines. It does not stop the Clay Target Shooters from winning medals. Keep up the good work Bob Blake Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-Modern Pentathlon
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Nice to see the two ladies winning a gold and a bronze in the modern pentathlon at the big "O". The BBC said they were "surprise" medals - they didn't point out that it was a surprise because one of the disciplines had been choked to death by the country that these two stars >represented, though. I do not recall that Air Pistols had been banned, in fact the government could argue that they have relaxed controls on Air Pistols. Keep up the good work Bob Blake -- What does the modern pentathlon involve? I thought .22s were used in one of the pentathlon events. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-Commonwealth results
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 25m Pistol Events were run on the new Slieau Lhost Range which is situated close to Windy Corner on the TT Course, this facility has 20 firing points and has been constructed to ISSF standards, work is under way on the 20 firing Point 50m range which is alongside. These ranges have been constructed with Manx Government support. The 50m Free Pistol was held on the Sinclair Small Bore Rifle Range and the Air at a temporary facility in Onchan. Bob Blake -- I think I might have to visit the Isle of Man again! Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-Commonwealth results
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Commonwealth Shooting Federation (European Division) Championships were held in the IOM last week-end and I can confirm that Pistol Shooting in the British Isles is still alive and kicking. Pistol Individual Matches: Mens Air Pistol: Gold: Alan Wilkins (England) Silver: Robert Doak (NI) Bronze: David Ward (Jersey) Free Pistol: Gold: Robert Doak (NI) Silver: David Ward (Jersey) Bronze: Hugh Stewart (NI) Standard Pistol: Gold: David Ward (Jersey) Silver: Mervyn McFarland (NI) Bronze: Robert Doak (NI) Centrefire: Gold: Steve Pengelly (Wales) Silver: Robert Doak (NI) Bronze: David Ward (Jersey) Rapid Fire: Gold: Adrian Breton (Guernsey) Silver: Ian Hodgson (IOM) Bronze: Derek Bernard (Jersey) Ladies Air: Gold: Carmella Dale (England) Silver: Annie Blane (Wales) Bronze: Susan Miller (Scotland) Pistol Pairs: Mens Air Pistol: Gold: Robert Doak/Mervyn McFarland (NI) Free Pistol: Gold: Bob Blake/Dave Ward (Jersey) Standard Pistol: Gold: Hugh Stewart/Robert Doak (NI) Centrefire: Gold: William Kennedy/Robert Doak (NI) The event also included Shotgun and Small-bore Rifle, the Full Bore Rifle was held at Altcar (Lack of a range in the IOM) The next CSF(ED)Champs will also be held in the IOM next May. The IOM will have a busy year as they are staging the Island Games in July (Full range of Pistol events Inc 1500/PP1/PP2/Service B etc). Keep up the good work Bob Blake -- Just as a matter of interest which range were the pistol events held on? Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-Vihtavuori Powders
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The leading problems that I experienced with N310 powder and 38 Special cases were just as serious with 357 Magnum cases - I tried these to see if reducing the bullet jump from case to chamber throat would improve things. My chosen load for the Magnum cases was 3.5 grains of N310 behind the GECO bullets and this gave about 800 - 830 ft/sec. There was very little to choose in accuracy between the two loadings - I shot my best ever group with the 357 Over the years I have conducted many ransom tests with wadcutter bullets and .357mag cases, in every case the group size was larger than when using .38spl cases. I put this down to the fact that when a .357mag case is used, the bullet base is still in the case when the tip is entering the rifling, thus any tolerance in the cylinder/bore alignment causes a distortion of the bullet. Perhaps this is why the top 1500 shooters use .38 cases and not .357. Keepup the good work Bob Blake Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-electronic targets and 300m
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have highlighted a major fault in the GB's rifle shooting mentality. World level ISSF full-bore rifle shooting are the metric 300m disciplines shot on proper bulls-eye ten ring targets with much tighter scoring than NRA targets. The British FB Target shooter is fixated by the Queens, which is effectively a Commonwealth event. While I have no wish to see the queens style shooting replaced, I think the NRA could do more to promote the 300m disciplines. A move in the right direction, was the proposed move to using the metric targets for the queens event, this was of course rejected. Where small-bore rifle is concerned the NSRA insists on continuing it's own "English Match" instead of promoting proper ISSF shooting, I hope that the new facilities at Bisley will cause them to re-think. Keep up the good work Bob Blake -- You took the words right out of my mouth! I'm not suggesting the NRA should completely ditch TR, but given that it is only really popular in Commonwealth countries (and the nearest large ones are some distance away), shouldn't they also be promoting 300m? There are top-level matches held in France for example, much easier for people to get to. Yet I am told that only 40-odd people put 300m down as their primary discipline on their NRA membership forms. It's just bizarre, because in fact the 300m range has covered firing points _and_ some electronic targets, but on Saturday I was the only person on the 300m range but there were a fair few out on Century. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-Olympics
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I did not think quota places could be transferred, I thought the shooter themselves had to win the quota by attendance and attaining qualifying scores in nominated events. Or am I misunderstanding the rules? >The Wild Card system always confused me totally! The ISSF Rule that governs the granting of quota places is as follows: "Quota places are granted to the ISSF Member Federations (NOC) and not to the athletes who obtained them". (A quota place is won with a Position not a Score, these range from 1st only in the African Champs to first 6 in the World Champs, which are only held every 4 years) The "Wild Cards" are more complicated and range from those granted by the President of the ISSF to countries without a quota place, to additional places for the host country (see page 88 of the ISSF rule book) Maximum total entries for the Olympic Pistol events are: Free Pistol 25, Air Pistol 30, Rapid Fire Pistol 20, Ladies Sport Pistol 25 and Ladies Air Pistol 30. The Total number of entries in all the shooting disciplines is 430. In addition all Olympic competitors must have obtained a MQS is an ISSF sanctioned event (MQS can be obtained in the Commonwealth Games). Quota places, however, cannot be won at the Commonwealth Games as it is not a "World" event. Keep up the good work Bob Blake Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-Olympics
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The reason there are no GB Pistol shooters in the Olympics has little to do with the ban, but everything to do with standards. A country does not just select and send shooters to the Games, Quota places have to be earned in world level events (World Cup, World Champs, European Champs, Asia Games etc.). As a measure of GB pistol standards post the ban: 1996 Atlanta: One GB Pistol shooter, Carol Page (Sport Pistol) attended and was selected using, I think, either a quota place won by Mick Gault, or a wild card quota place. 1992 Barcelona: One GB Pistol shooter, Guernsey's Adrian Breton attended (Rapid Fire) and was selected using a quota place won by John Rolfe (Rapid Fire). The NSRA have effectively disbanded the cartridge pistol squads, I suspect, to protect their rifle interests from funding removal, yet there are still four of the seven home countries with pistols (Northern Ireland, Jersey, Guernsey and IOM). Far from the government being wholly to blame, I would suggest that the governing body needs to do it's job properly. As a matter of interest, Carol Page started her shooting career in Jersey, along with Guernsey's Adrian Breton, this gives a strong Channel Island connection to GB's Olympic Pistol shooters for the last decade, what is the sport's governing body doing for the Channel Islands shooters now? Keep up the good work Bob Blake Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-Commonwealth Games
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The staffing of the Pistol Ranges and Juries for the CSF Championships in 2001 and the Commonwealth Games in 2002 will involve officials from other Commonwealth Countries as well as the British Isles. Currently there are only about half a dozen International A & B qualified ISSF Pistol Judges in Great Britain, these individuals will be seconded onto Juries together with Judges from other parts of the Commonwealth. There are a number of Juries involved, Classification, Equipment, Range and Appeal. Most of these individuals have kept there licences current by officiating in overseas events. It is normal with events of this level to use National qualified Judges/Officials to do the actual running of the ranges. There are very few current qualified ISSF Pistol Officials left in the British Isles due to the lack of events available to keep the qualification current. (Certification is done by the GBTSF) We have three such officials resident in Jersey, however, as two will almost certainly be selected to shoot in the 2001 CSF Championships and the third is usually the Jersey Pistol Team Manager, that is three off the list, unless any decide to forgo the selection. Bob Blake Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-Olympic shooters lobby for easing of handgun ban
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Personally I would like to see the entire British shooting team boycott the >Manchester games and make as much political capital out of it as possible. >Agreed. They should turn up, with their guns, and then refuse to shoot >and ensure the media know they won't shoot until everyone can shoot. >But that's pie in the sky, I expect it'll be a case of selfishness once >more. Once again we are missing the point, the British (Great Britain) Shooting Team do not take part in the Commonwealth Games, each of the seven home countries enter their own teams. Asking a Jersey, Guernsey, IOM or Northern Ireland Shooter to boycott the games is no different than asking the Australian or Canadian Teams to do the same. Additionally, asking a Clay or Rifle shooter to boycott the Games in support of Pistol shooters is, firstly, not going to happen and secondly, the act of suggesting such an action would do what is left of pistol shooting great harm. With regard to the tight security proposed for Pistols during the Games, this is no different to many other countries, the Commonwealth Shooting Federation Championships and Commonwealth Games were held in Malaysia in 1997/1998, all Firearms were handed to the Police on arrival in the Country and handed back on the range. In that country you have to be a member of the Army or Police to be able to handle firearms or compete, even air pistols/rifles. A boycott will play into the hands of the antis, medals by English, Scottish or Welsh Pistol shooters and good publicity is the way to show that at least some pistol shooting should be allowed. Instead of rubbishing the possibility of some top shooters being given dispensation to train for the Games, we should actively support this, remember that from little acorns giant oaks grow. Keep up the good work Bob Blake -- I think the competitors should do their best to win, and when they lose they can complain that the ban cost them medals. That will get two lines on page 37 of course, unless we have a rally to bring some attention to it. Also the Malaysian Arms Act 1960 says nothing about being a member of the military or police to be issued an arms license. Their Act is basically a copy of the Firearms Act 1937 with some interesting differences. E.g.: "Any person who at the time of his committing or attempting to commit or abetting the commission of a scheduled offence exhibits an imitation firearm in a manner likely to put any person in fear of death or hurt shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to ten years and with whipping with not less than three strokes."- Section 6, Firearms (Increased Penalties) Act 1971 The main difference is that their law allows guns to be owned for self-defence, and for the defence of farm land! Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-ammunition markings
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>So how does it shoot in your GPMG ;-p Regret I do not have a GPMG, it does, however, work quite well in my Model "D" Browning, a pain to de-link though. Bob Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-Olympic shooters lobby for easing of handgun ban
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Steve There are no Flights from Guernsey to Heathrow and Jersey's connection (BA) will stop in November, I may be wrong about IOM, but I think there is no longer a Heathrow connection. Falkland Island Teams have to travel by military aircraft to a UK RAF base. Bob Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-Olympic shooters lobby for easing of handgun ban
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think we need to put this matter and the some of facts into perspective. 1) England (as the country where Manchester is located) is responsible for ensuring that the shooting events, including Pistol, are run, not Great Britain or the UK. There is a commitment to ensure that the rest of the Commonwealth shooters are able to compete. Please note that there are no British Pistol Shooters in the Sydney Olympics. 2) This is not a matter for GB Squad Members (The GB Cartridge Pistol Squad, we are informed by the NSRA, no longer exists). 3) GB is made up of no less than seven home countries, England, Scotland, Wales, IOM, Northern Ireland, Jersey and Guernsey, all of whom compete separately in the Commonwealth Games. Only the first three are subject to the current restrictions on Cartridge Pistols and if they wish to boycott, then that is up to them. 4) The first event to test the system is not the Commonwealth Games but the Commonwealth Shooting Federation Championships in September 2001, which are to be held at Bisley. 5) We have been informed that we will only be able to enter UK with Pistols through Heathrow, this will be difficult for some as there will be no flights to Heathrow from Jersey, Guernsey, IOM, Falklands, St.Helena and many others, is the Home Office trying to tell us something? 6) Perhaps, if selected Pistol Shooters wish to make a point, they could turn up for the matches, without a gun, and record a zero score. Personally I consider that there is more to be gained by obtaining good results, remember Micky Gault's 4 Pistol Golds at the last Games. 7) As a matter of interest, not all English qualified shooters live in England. Keep up the good work Bob Blake -- There is a flight from the IOM to Heathrow, my sister used to fly it! Also Jersey and Guernsey I thought, although obviously most competitors would prefer the ferry. And the Falklanders come via Chile, don't they? Doesn't that flight terminate at Heathrow? Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Target-ammunition markings
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some Iranian headstamped 7.62, GPMG linked, found its way to Jersey about a year after the gulf war, I still have some, it was my understanding that this was left by the Iraq forces when they vacated Kuwait, having originally been captured during the Iraq/Iran War. Keep up the good work Bob Blake -- So how does it shoot in your GPMG ;-p Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
