CS: Legal-gun carrying

2000-11-19 Thread IG

From:   "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Unfair.
 This is an ongoing case, of which you only are aware of one side of the
story.
I very much doubt if you know the full circumstances surrounding the
shooting, either.
Take my word, this is not a good example to use to illustrate the need for
firearms in self defence.

IG
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It hardly matters what the circumstances surrounding that
particular shooting of him were, the simple criteria should
be whether or not he is facing a serious enough threat
that he needs a gun to defend himself, the answer to that
one is obviously yes and the RUC agreed, but Northumbria
Police didn't, although it's largely the HO's fault.

Whether he actually got shot or not is incidental, there
is nothing in law saying you have to get shot to qualify,
he merely has to show "good reason", which he obviously had.

Steve.


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CS: Legal-gun carrying

2000-11-18 Thread IG

From:   "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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So leave it to parliament, then. That will be OK. We trust them, dont we?

If so, then you must accept and agree with the current laws they have
passed, i.e. the 97 amendment?

Do us a favour!
IG
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Parliament has already decided and stated it in law -
it's whomever has a "good reason", and in the case of
a handgun, who also has the authority of the Secretary
of State.  There is no absolute legal bar on granting
authority to a person to carry a gun for self-defence.

I forget his name now (McGartland?) but he applied for
an FAC for self-defence and already held one in Northern
Ireland.  Northumbria Police unfortunately followed Home
Office Guidance and Mr McGartland had a visit from some
IRA terrorists.  As far as I know he is the first person
in recent history to apply, be turned down, and subsequently
be shot.  In this particular case Northumbria Police acted
incorrectly, although it is more the fault of the Home
Office for shoddy, narrow-minded and outdated Guidance.

Members of the UUP and DUP have applied for visitor's
permits to the HO for personal protection and been turned
down as well.

Steve.


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