CS: Misc-Dover guns

2000-12-20 Thread Jeremy

From:   Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Turpitz was attacked more than once by 617 Squadron and
9 Squadron.

The in last pair of attacks she was first severely
damaged, then the Germans moved her South to be emplaced
as a massive coastal battery.  It was here that she
received at least one direct hit from a 6-ton 'Tallboy'
bomb and several near misses and subsequently capsized.

After the war it was discovered that a Fleet Air Arm raid
on her from carriers in 1943 had effectively ended her
wartime career as an ocean going fighting ship as her
main electrical switching and communications centre had
been destroyed beyond repair.  It was patched together
so she could move but she would nver have been able to
undertake an ocean voyage and fight.  One of the Germans
best kept secrets, if the Royal Navy had known it would
have affected all naval planning for the convoys to
Russia and all major activities in the North Atlantic,
allowing much of the Home Fleet to be re-deployed for
offensive action rather than covering for a breakout
led by the Turpitz.

Regards

Jerry


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CS: Misc-Dover Guns

2000-12-14 Thread KiPng

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Davisd Johnson said:

The guns were about 2-300 yards inland from the cliff
edge and often, when walking along the cliff path, we
would notice that we were being tracked by
the guns - very disconcerting! 

I used to drive the road from Swaffham to Mildenhall over
Thetford Chase quite often.  When there were A10 tank
busters stationed there they would often fly over the
road just behind you as you were passing beneath.

I was told a while later by an ex-RAF Jaguar pilot that
the cars on that road were travelling at about the same
speed as a Russian tank would have been moving over the
North German plains and were used for non-firing target
practice.  I never did feel quite the same about driving
along there after I heard this.

Can anyone confirm the truth of this?


Kenneth Pantling


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CS: Misc-Dover Guns

2000-12-13 Thread David Johnson

From:   "David Johnson", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The coast around Dover was positively bristling with guns!
In the early '50s I lived just along the coast from Dover. There were
batteries of (I think) 6" guns that were still used for practice, firing at
a sort of raft of railway sleepers towed behind an MTB (on a VERY long
line!). Towards the end of the day, the splashes would creep forward until
the boat crew got the message and shot back to Dover.
The guns were about 2-300 yards inland from the cliff edge and often, when
walking along the cliff path, we would notice that we were being tracked by
the guns - very disconcerting! Thats when I started to learn to walk fast.
There were also 2 guns, further inland, only about a mile from our house.
These were known locally as Winnie and Pooh. We were always told that they
were 18" and came from a WW1 warship.
Every few months, notices would be posted around the village, warning that
firing would take place on a certain day. On the day, a police car would
tour the village with a loudspeaker, warning to open your windows.
My recollection of the actual firing was that you felt the shock through the
ground first, this would rattle crockery, etc. followed by a fairly deep
roar that rattled the windows.
I never actually saw them being fired, I was only about 10 at the time and
it was so soon after the war that loud bangs didn't have the novelty value
that they would have now.
Years later, I remember seeing the site littered with 40-gallon oil drums
and wondered what was going on - until I realised that they were sections of
the barrels, cut up into 'bite-sized' chunks for transport.

Dave Johnson


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