Re: xfree in cygwin Setup program

2002-02-05 Thread Rasjid Wilcox

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 7:03 am, Christopher Faylor wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 09:48:31PM +1100, Rasjid Wilcox wrote:
 Just wondering what the status of getting XFree into the Cygwin Setup
 program?  I followed the discussion on 21st Jan, and a few weeks ago I saw
 some binaries up on the ftp site that looked like they were in progress,
  but they are no longer there.
 
 I'd be willing to help.

 They're not there yet.  You can help by downloading and trying the
 setup.exe snapshots that Robert Collins has been making available.  I'm
 sure he would love feedback.

 Once the new version of setup.exe is available, we'll be able to
 incorporate XFree86 into the distribution.

 cgf

Okay.  I'm in.  Where do I get the snapshots from Robert?

Rasjid.



setup.exe won't install last package patch

2002-02-05 Thread Jason Tishler

The attached patch fixes an off-by-one error that prevents the last
package (i.e., zlib) from being installed by the latest setup.exe
(in CVS).

Jason


Index: download.cc
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/src/winsup/cinstall/download.cc,v
retrieving revision 2.19
diff -u -p -r2.19 download.cc
--- download.cc 2001/12/23 12:13:28 2.19
+++ download.cc 2002/02/05 19:16:05
@@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ do_download_thread (HINSTANCE h, HWND ow
 
   packagedb db;
   /* calculate the amount needed */
-  for (size_t n = 1; n  db.packages.number (); n++)
+  for (size_t n = 1; n = db.packages.number (); n++)
 {
   packagemeta  pkg = *db.packages[n];
   if (pkg.desired  (pkg.desired-srcpicked || pkg.desired-binpicked))
@@ -180,7 +180,7 @@ do_download_thread (HINSTANCE h, HWND ow
   /* and do the download. FIXME: This here we assign a new name for the cached version
* and check that above.
*/
-  for (size_t n = 1; n  db.packages.number (); n++)
+  for (size_t n = 1; n = db.packages.number (); n++)
 {
   packagemeta  pkg = *db.packages[n];
   if (pkg.desired  (pkg.desired-srcpicked || pkg.desired-binpicked))


2002-02-05  Jason Tishler  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* download.cc (do_download_thread): Fix off-by-one error.



Limits?

2002-02-05 Thread Elias Biris

Hi all,

I'd like to ask where can I find information about the types of limits that are set in 
cygwin utilities for win2k? I am looking specifically for:

Maximum number of characters that by default can be used in a pathname
Maximum number of characters that by default can be used in a filename (together with 
its path)
Maximum number of characters that by default can be used in a command or commands that 
can be called by 'exec'

Sorry for the wide distribution but I could not find this for Cygwin specifically. All 
information will be gratefully appreciated.

Kind regards

Elias Biris, Member of Technical Staff
Cadence Design Systems Ltd, SOC Design Centre
1 The Alba Campus  |TEL: +44 (0)1506595036
Livingston, EH54 7HH   |FAX: +44 (0)1506595959

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Re: setup-2002-01-27-1.exe clips text

2002-02-05 Thread Volker Quetschke

 Using setup-2002-01-27-1.exe I have noticed that the text in the
 selection dialog is clipped. i.e. there appear to be ~3 pixels missing
 from the top of the displayed text on my 1280x1024 display.

 Haven't seen it reported so I thought I'd mention it.
 
 I hate to AOLMe too!/AOL, but I'm doing it anyway.  :-)
 
 This happens when, in the display properties, the font size is set to 
 Large Fonts.  The result can be seen at http://www.mscha.org/setup.gif .


I wouldn't dare a Me too if it there would be just ~3 pixel missing, but 
in my case half of the selection dialog is missing.
Have a look at: http://www.scytek.de/setup-2002-01-27.gif

When I use the up/down scrollbar I get other small fractions of the 
dialog area displayed and other parts vanish.

The system is Windows 98SE on a notebook with rage mobility-m1 
graphicchip. I toyed around with the display properties, but it does not 
change.

I made also a test on a Windows 2000 system. In this case I don't see
any clipping.

Volker




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Re: /dev/registry

2002-02-05 Thread Lapo Luchini

 The trick at this point is finding someone interested enough to write it.

Nobody seems to notice that the original message writer actually proposed
himself to do the work... now let's only hope he really does it ;)

 Subject: /dev/registry
 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 15:42:55 -
 From: Chris January
 [...]I'm willing to try coding this if people think it's a good idea.[...]

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Re: General problems creating executables

2002-02-05 Thread b . lecomte

hello there,

I've just installed from setup.exe launched from www.cygwin.com
and have this log with the Hello world program :
sub-system MS-DOS 16 bits titled warning window appears on
Windows2000 (service pack2)
(without ntsec, just set CYGWIN=tty notitle glob)

$ make Hello
gcc Hello.c   -o Hello
  0 [main] gcc 1376 proc_subproc: Couldn't duplicate my handle0x34 for 
pid 1064, Win32 error 6
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/2.95.3-5/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld: 
installation problem, cannot ex
ec `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/2.95.3-5/../../../../i686-pc-
cygwin/bin/ld': Invalid argument
collect2: ld returned 255 exit status
make: *** [Hello] Error 1

$ find / -name cygwin1.dll
/bin/cygwin1.dll
/usr/bin/cygwin1.dll

$ ll /bin/cygwin1.dll
-rwxr-xr-x1 Administ Aucun  768840 Jan 21 17:52 /bin/cygwin1.dll
$ ll /usr/bin/cygwin1.dll
-rwxr-xr-x1 Administ Aucun  768840 Jan 21 17:52 /usr/bin/cygwin1.dll

$ du -ks /usr/local/*
0   /usr/local/bin
0   /usr/local/etc
0   /usr/local/lib

HELP NEEDED !

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Re: Limits?

2002-02-05 Thread Jan Kellmer

Hello!

Elias Biris wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'd like to ask where can I find information about the types of limits that are set 
in cygwin utilities for win2k? I am looking specifically for:
 
 Maximum number of characters that by default can be used in a pathname
 Maximum number of characters that by default can be used in a filename (together 
with its path)
 Maximum number of characters that by default can be used in a command or commands 
that can be called by 'exec'
 
 Sorry for the wide distribution but I could not find this for Cygwin specifically. 
All information will be gratefully appreciated.
 

Try this little program:
-- snip -- snap --
#include limits.h
#include stdio.h
#include unistd.h

int main(int argc, char** argv) {
printf(Max pathname: '%d'\n,
   sysconf(_PC_PATH_MAX));
printf(Max filename: '%d'\n,
   sysconf(_PC_NAME_MAX));
printf(Max arguments: '%d'\n,
   sysconf(_SC_ARG_MAX));
}
-- snap -- snip --

The first line of output shows the guaranteed number of characters in a
relative path; the second line shows the guaranteed number of characters
in a filename alone (not preceeded by any path) (both may be limited by
the filesystem on which a file is located; have a look at fpathconf()
and pathconf() also); the third line shows the maximum number of
characters in the argument of an exec() call.


There is no manual page for sysconf() in my cygwin install, but on every
average unix box there is.

Regards,
Jan

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RE: proper version of dll

2002-02-05 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)

Still the wrong mailing list.  This problem is application specific.  The
application in question needs to provide the specific Cygwin DLL version
it requires.  The Cygwin community is not responsible for maintaining or 
providing unknown third party versions of the Cygwin DLL.  Also, to be 
complaint with the Cygwin open-source license, it would need to provide 
the source to the version of the Cygwin DLL that the application uses.  
Since I don't even know the name of the application, I can't say whether 
this is already being done or not.  If not though, it is in violation of 
the license terms.  

The original poster should contact the distributor of the application with 
this problem.  This list is for questions and issues about Cygwin as 
distributed by Cygwin community.  Folks looking for support for 
applications not distributed by the Cygwin community but happen to use
the Cygwin DLL still need to consult the application provider.


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At 09:20 AM 2/5/2002, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:
Wrong mailing list,  I forwarded your message to cygwin mailing list

  
  Hello Sir,
  
  I am finding problem with not having the proper version of 
  cygwin.dll. 
  If I install the cygwi, from the www.cygwin.com, I get the 
  file cygwin1.dll and not cygwin.dll. My application needs cygwin.dll
  
  This is the error I get when I run my application under bash.
  
  Z:\1200\tools\ekmdc_pc.exe: *** cygwin DLL and APP are out of 
  sync -- DLL version mismatch 17  19
  
  Can you please tell me how can I get the proper version of 
  the cygwin.dll required for my application.
  
  Thanks
  
  With regards
  
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RE: proper version of dll

2002-02-05 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux

 -Original Message-
 From: Suhaib Siddiqi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:21 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: proper version of dll
 
 
 Wrong mailing list,  I forwarded your message to cygwin mailing list
 
  
  Hello Sir,
  
  I am finding problem with not having the proper version of 
  cygwin.dll. 
  If I install the cygwi, from the www.cygwin.com, I get the 
  file cygwin1.dll and not cygwin.dll. My application needs cygwin.dll
  
  This is the error I get when I run my application under bash.
  
  Z:\1200\tools\ekmdc_pc.exe: *** cygwin DLL and APP are out of 
  sync -- DLL version mismatch 17  19

Looks like your APP was compile very far ago, back in the heroic cygwin-B17
days 8-0)

The best you can do is recompile it using th eup-to-date cygwin development
environment; it is MUCH more stable than the old B17 one. 

  
  Can you please tell me how can I get the proper version of 
  the cygwin.dll required for my application.

I'm afraid you can't, if you don't save cygwin-B17 together with the
compiled APP. ;-(

HTH

Bernard


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Re:Set up and remove registry

2002-02-05 Thread Randall R Schulz

Hello,

Perhaps someone with the requisite knowledge of .reg files and of 
Cygwin's use of the Registry could provide some sort of UnCygwin.reg file?

Randall Schulz
Mountain View, CA USA

At 08:07 2002-02-05, Jorge Goncalvez wrote:
Hi, I wonder if there is a way to remove automatically Cygwin Solutions 
entry with the setup.exe?

Thanks.


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opengl and cygwin

2002-02-05 Thread Ling F. Zhang

this seems like an X question, but it concerns openssh
as well, so I am going to ask.
okay, I need to do some opengl development. I found
that opengl library comes with cygwin, that's a plus
for me.  but I think I might need to install xfree for
cygwin in order for it to work (is this true?)
say I need to install, but I don't want to. I have
exceed, so, can I just run exceed, forward the
DISPLAY, an expect anything to work at all?

if I am talking non-sense here...can anyone tell me
how to get opengl to work? since it's included in the
cygwin package? (does it include glut? or do I have to
compile / install it myself?)

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Re: opengl and cygwin

2002-02-05 Thread Ling F. Zhang

Thanks for that information.  I read the info.  If my
understanding is correct, the opengl that came with
cygwin is just like the one with windows and all I
have to do is link. so I just added -llib to my gcc
line...well, it returns symbol not found error...okay,
that sounds to me that my lib PATh is incorrect...so I
tried to look for the file like glut.lib...that came
up empty...so can anyone ever played with opengl on
cygwin tell me how should I link? what PATH do I need
to add?

--- Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 At 03:03 PM 2/5/2002, Ling F. Zhang wrote:
 this seems like an X question, but it concerns
 openssh
 as well, so I am going to ask.
 okay, I need to do some opengl development. I found
 that opengl library comes with cygwin, that's a
 plus
 for me.  but I think I might need to install xfree
 for
 cygwin in order for it to work (is this true?)
 say I need to install, but I don't want to. I have
 exceed, so, can I just run exceed, forward the
 DISPLAY, an expect anything to work at all?
 
 if I am talking non-sense here...can anyone tell me
 how to get opengl to work? since it's included in
 the
 cygwin package? (does it include glut? or do I have
 to
 compile / install it myself?)
 
 
 Try /usr/doc/opengl-1.1.0/README.txt
 
 
 
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 http://www.rfk.com
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Re: opengl and cygwin

2002-02-05 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)

Cygwin follows UNIX conventions for library names.  That means the glut
library is named libglut.a.  If you installed the OpenGL package, you 
should find this in /usr/lib.

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At 03:42 PM 2/5/2002, Ling F. Zhang wrote:
Thanks for that information.  I read the info.  If my
understanding is correct, the opengl that came with
cygwin is just like the one with windows and all I
have to do is link. so I just added -llib to my gcc
line...well, it returns symbol not found error...okay,
that sounds to me that my lib PATh is incorrect...so I
tried to look for the file like glut.lib...that came
up empty...so can anyone ever played with opengl on
cygwin tell me how should I link? what PATH do I need
to add?

--- Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  At 03:03 PM 2/5/2002, Ling F. Zhang wrote:
  this seems like an X question, but it concerns
  openssh
  as well, so I am going to ask.
  okay, I need to do some opengl development. I found
  that opengl library comes with cygwin, that's a
  plus
  for me.  but I think I might need to install xfree
  for
  cygwin in order for it to work (is this true?)
  say I need to install, but I don't want to. I have
  exceed, so, can I just run exceed, forward the
  DISPLAY, an expect anything to work at all?
  
  if I am talking non-sense here...can anyone tell me
  how to get opengl to work? since it's included in
  the
  cygwin package? (does it include glut? or do I have
  to
  compile / install it myself?)
  
  
  Try /usr/doc/opengl-1.1.0/README.txt
  
  
  
  Larry Hall 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  RFK Partners, Inc. 
  http://www.rfk.com
  838 Washington Street   (508)
  893-9779 - RFK Office
  Holliston, MA 01746 (508)
  893-9889 - FAX
  


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$HOME Directory Relocation

2002-02-05 Thread Laurence F. Wood

Hello,

I needed to relocate the $HOME directory to another disk volume.  Under
linux the login process sets this.  Who/what sets $HOME under cygwin?


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$HOME Directory Relocation

2002-02-05 Thread Markus Hoenicka

Look at /etc/profile. This uses $HOME if it is set under Windows,
otherwise it uses /home/$USER. You can certainly tweak this to your
needs.

A simpler option may be to mount your new disk on /home, then you
don't have to fiddle with $HOME.

regards,
Markus

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  I needed to relocate the $HOME directory to another disk volume.  Under
  linux the login process sets this.  Who/what sets $HOME under cygwin?
  
  
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install 'cron' packages in cygwin

2002-02-05 Thread Prakriteswar Santikary

Hi,

I installed 'cygwin' today. I would like to install packages pertaining to
'cron' for submitting jobs. Where can I find that package and how can I
install it ? thanks. Santi

Prakriteswar Santikary, Ph.D.
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POINT Information Systems, Inc.
65 William Street, Suite 150
Wellesley, MA 02481
Phone:  (781) 416-7905
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Re: install 'cron' packages in cygwin

2002-02-05 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:31:11PM -, Prakriteswar Santikary wrote:
I installed 'cygwin' today. I would like to install packages pertaining to
'cron' for submitting jobs. Where can I find that package and how can I
install it ? thanks. Santi

It's available via setup.exe but not installed by default.

The Categories part of the setup process has all sorts of interesting
things available, if you click on parts of the screen which contain
categories.

In this case, you should click on the Admin category if you want to
see the cron selection.

cgf

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RE: /dev/registry

2002-02-05 Thread Ralf Habacker

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
 Of Christopher Faylor
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 6:29 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: /dev/registry


 On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:09:27PM +0100, Lapo Luchini wrote:
  The trick at this point is finding someone interested enough to write it.
 
 Nobody seems to notice that the original message writer actually proposed
 himself to do the work... now let's only hope he really does it ;)

 Let's also hope that he looks over previous discussion of the topic and
 that he has scrutinized the Contributing link at http://cygwin.com/ .

If anyone of you was by the army, how many shots you have needed to hit the middle of 
target ? Does anyone of you
are real thinking, that this is the right way to motivate people working on an open 
source projects like cygwin ?
Does this project does not depends on new idea ?

Ralf


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RE: install 'cron' packages in cygwin

2002-02-05 Thread Prakriteswar Santikary

Hi christopher,

I just downloaded setup.exe and doubled-cliked on it to install. When should
I see this 'category' thing you are talking about ?

thanks
Santi

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:45 PM
To: Prakriteswar Santikary
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: install 'cron' packages in cygwin


On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:31:11PM -, Prakriteswar Santikary wrote:
I installed 'cygwin' today. I would like to install packages pertaining to
'cron' for submitting jobs. Where can I find that package and how can I
install it ? thanks. Santi

It's available via setup.exe but not installed by default.

The Categories part of the setup process has all sorts of interesting
things available, if you click on parts of the screen which contain
categories.

In this case, you should click on the Admin category if you want to
see the cron selection.

cgf

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Scriptable start.exe

2002-02-05 Thread Joseph Annino

I saw some discussion in the archive that start.exe was once scriptable, and
now isn't, and some people showed interest in making it scriptable again.

So I am wondering what the state of making start.exe scriptable is?  This is
a feature that would be quite helpful on a current project so that clients
can install a properly configured cygwin without the few clicks that are
required now.


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RE: /dev/registry

2002-02-05 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)

At 04:44 PM 2/5/2002, Ralf Habacker wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
  Of Christopher Faylor
  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 6:29 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: /dev/registry
 
 
  On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:09:27PM +0100, Lapo Luchini wrote:
   The trick at this point is finding someone interested enough to write it.
  
  Nobody seems to notice that the original message writer actually proposed
  himself to do the work... now let's only hope he really does it ;)
 
  Let's also hope that he looks over previous discussion of the topic and
  that he has scrutinized the Contributing link at http://cygwin.com/ .
 
If anyone of you was by the army, how many shots you have needed to hit the middle of 
target ? Does anyone of you
are real thinking, that this is the right way to motivate people working on an open 
source projects like cygwin ?
Does this project does not depends on new idea ?


Sure.  It depends on new ideas.  It depends more on people to actually
implement them.  Since this thread has already pointed out that 
discussion of topics is far more prevalent on this list than actual
contributions, I think you should interpret any subtext of this email
exchange as a healthy bit of skepticism that the result of this discussion 
will result in a real contribution.  Now's the time for all those 
interested to prove the old skeptics wrong! ;-)  In this case, it is 
clear that Chris January's stated intent is to implement this feature.
It's worthwhile to reiterate that this topic was brought up in that 
context.

Just to set the record straight, if you review this email thread, you'll
notice it's been pointed out that this is not a new idea.  It's come up 
and been discussed quite thoroughly before on this list, in case anyone
is interested in reviewing that discussion.  I, for one, am quite 
interested to see what Chris creates.  I expect others on this list will 
be too.  Go Chris! :-)



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Re: /dev/registry

2002-02-05 Thread Michael A Chase

- Original Message -
From: Ralf Habacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 13:44
Subject: RE: /dev/registry


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
  Of Christopher Faylor
  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 6:29 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: /dev/registry
 
 
  On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:09:27PM +0100, Lapo Luchini wrote:
   The trick at this point is finding someone interested enough to write
it.
  
  Nobody seems to notice that the original message writer actually
proposed
  himself to do the work... now let's only hope he really does it ;)
 
  Let's also hope that he looks over previous discussion of the topic and
  that he has scrutinized the Contributing link at http://cygwin.com/ .
 
 If anyone of you was by the army, how many shots you have needed to hit
the middle of target ? Does anyone of you
 are real thinking, that this is the right way to motivate people working
on an open source projects like cygwin ?
 Does this project does not depends on new idea ?

There are lots of ideas out there as this thread has shown.  The shortage is
people to put them into effect.  Patches and packages are welcome.
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Re: $HOME Directory Relocation

2002-02-05 Thread Michael A Chase

- Original Message -
From: Greg Mosier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 13:55
Subject: Re: $HOME Directory Relocation


 From: Michael A Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: $HOME Directory Relocation


  The problem with setting HOME to a fixed value in cygwin.bat or
 /etc/profile
  is that limits your cygwin installation to a single user.  That's why
the
  default /etc/profile allows $HOME to be passed through from the user's
  Windows environment.

 Ummm, I set this up in /etc/profile, defined several users, had then
connect
 through telnetd, and it worked fine.  Matter of fact, without this setup
in
 /etc/profile, when you telnet in your $HOME is set to: /

Good point.  I don't provide telnetd services to other machines, so I tend
to think in terms of local users.  Doesn't /etc/passwd help with
telnetd/login?
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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-05 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)

At 06:30 PM 2/5/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
Because I do not feel like having to pour though a ton of messages wasting space on 
my systems to weed out the junk and have to manage cleaning up all the stuff I'm not 
interested it. News servers were created exactly to address this issue. It is the 
medium developed exactly for what we are trying to do here. Am I so wrong to ask why 
we are not using the medium?!?.


No.  However, if you're looking for the answer to the question, you're 
going to have to review this thread (and others like it).  I appreciate
your need to organize your messages in a way that's convenient for you
but I'm not going to repeat what's already been said on this issue in 
this thread and others like it.  

Hopefully everyone is now clear as to why there is not already a news
server for Cygwin.  If you are not and are curious, please review the 
list archives to find the answer.  It's time this thread died until 
someone is ready to do more than talk about the need or benefits of
a news server.  When that point is reached, I'm sure we'll all appreciate
the single email message to this list that it takes to announce the 
existence of the new service.






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SSHD startup problem and suggested fix

2002-02-05 Thread Benn Schreiber

I had problems with sshd not starting up reliably as a service, after I
installing cygwin on a new system.  I found that it was sometimes trying
to start before the network was started, and didn't fare too well.

So, I did a cygrunsrv --remove sshd

and then did 

cygrunsrv -I sshd -d CYGWIN sshd -p /usr/sbin/sshd -y Browser -a
-D -e CYGWIN=binmode ntsec tty

This makes the sshd service dependent on the browser, which is dependent
on the network being up.  Works great now!

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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-05 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 04:19:15PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:30:25PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
News servers were created exactly to address this issue.  It is the
medium developed exactly for what we are trying to do here.  Am I so
wrong to ask why we are not using the medium?!?.

As a wild guess, I suppose because a newsgroup isn't available?

If you feel this strongly about a news server then I see no reason why
you shouldn't set one up.  I'll be happy to advertise the service on
the cygwin web site.

I'd suggest that you gateway the cygwin mailing list into news, and
vice versa.  That would probably be optimum.

I have several other great ideas which I'll be happy to share with you
once you've gotten your service set up.

As I just got through mentioning to Larry I would take a shot at
setting it up however I lack the resources (a machine, the software and
the space).  Hosting this from my home PC is probably not a good idea.

Maybe you should investigate the internet and see if there is a site
available which provides this type of service.  A quick scan of google.com
seems to indicate that there are some sites which will do this for free.

cgf

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Tips?

2002-02-05 Thread Roger

Cygwin is really cool when it is executing under winxp with a 2x750P3
and 256MB ram!  

using rxvt and bash shell with Lucida Console font.

also have blackbox-0.62.0 on xfree-4.1 installed (xfree-4.2 as soon as i
get it compiled).

1) It is truely nice to be able to manipulate files as easily on my
linux o/s.  i've always hated the dos shell (is command.com  cmd.com)
as it's difficult to actually use them.

2) It is really really nice to be able to compile windows exe files
without spending $$$ on a windows compiler!

2) xfree86 works nicely also!


Are there anymore tips on integrating cygwin with windows more
someplace? like a faq? i've already reviewed all of cygwin.com.

If you can, cc stuff to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as my
starband.com account it in the process of being cancelled. thanx.


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Re: Tips?

2002-02-05 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:22:48PM -0500, Roger wrote:
Cygwin is really cool when it is executing under winxp with a 2x750P3
and 256MB ram!  

using rxvt and bash shell with Lucida Console font.

also have blackbox-0.62.0 on xfree-4.1 installed (xfree-4.2 as soon as i
get it compiled).

1) It is truely nice to be able to manipulate files as easily on my
linux o/s.  i've always hated the dos shell (is command.com  cmd.com)
as it's difficult to actually use them.

2) It is really really nice to be able to compile windows exe files
without spending $$$ on a windows compiler!

2) xfree86 works nicely also!

Are there anymore tips on integrating cygwin with windows more
someplace?  like a faq?  i've already reviewed all of cygwin.com.

Huh?  There are FAQs on the Cygwin site.  If you have reviewed the site,
you've found the FAQs.

If you have specific questions that aren't in the FAQs then ask them.

If you can, cc stuff to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as my
starband.com account it in the process of being cancelled. thanx.

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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RE: Scriptable start.exe

2002-02-05 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
 Of Joseph Annino
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:52 PM
 To: cygwin
 Subject: Scriptable start.exe


 I saw some discussion in the archive that start.exe was once scriptable, and
 now isn't, and some people showed interest in making it scriptable again.


Setup.exe has never been scriptable in any respect, and no discussion to that
effect has occurred here to the best of my knowledge.  People have been
discussing adding such a feature, but I haven't seen any code.

 So I am wondering what the state of making start.exe scriptable is?  This is
 a feature that would be quite helpful on a current project so that clients
 can install a properly configured cygwin without the few clicks that are
 required now.


None of the people that have been working on setup.exe recently (including
myself) appear to have any desire to add any scripting functionality to it.
There's much more important work that needs to be done before such a notion
could even be realistically considered.

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Re: Set up and remove registry

2002-02-05 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:37:16PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of Jorge Goncalvez

Hi, I wonder if there is a way to remove automatically Cygwin Solutions
entry with the setup.exe ?  Thanks.

No, there isn't.

You could always use regtool, I suppose...

cgf

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Re: Scriptable start.exe

2002-02-05 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:55:04PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
 So I am wondering what the state of making start.exe scriptable is?  This is
 a feature that would be quite helpful on a current project so that clients
 can install a properly configured cygwin without the few clicks that are
 required now.

None of the people that have been working on setup.exe recently (including
myself) appear to have any desire to add any scripting functionality to it.
There's much more important work that needs to be done before such a notion
could even be realistically considered.

Currently, setup.exe is simple enough that you could almost get by with
just using shell scripts, tar, and bzip2.

cgf

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RE: Scriptable start.exe

2002-02-05 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
 Of Christopher Faylor
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Scriptable start.exe


 On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:55:04PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
  So I am wondering what the state of making start.exe scriptable
 is?  This is
  a feature that would be quite helpful on a current project so that clients
  can install a properly configured cygwin without the few clicks that are
  required now.
 
 None of the people that have been working on setup.exe recently (including
 myself) appear to have any desire to add any scripting functionality to it.
 There's much more important work that needs to be done before such a notion
 could even be realistically considered.

 Currently, setup.exe is simple enough that you could almost get by with
 just using shell scripts, tar, and bzip2.


One probably could.  Exercise left to the reader ;-).  I can forsee at some
distant point in time maybe some command-line functionality thus:

setup.exe packagename

which I think has essentially (or maybe even exactly) already been suggested.
But one release at a time.

Speaking of which... Rob? ;-)

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Re: Scriptable start.exe

2002-02-05 Thread Joseph Annino

Well, considering that I just need to install a cygwin configured a certain
way, I think I found a way around this limitation.  Being able to script
setup.exe would be nice though.  Some package management ala RPM or
something would be nice, but I understand priorities.

So my work around:
- Install cygwin the way I like it on one computer
- Remove the .done extention from the stuff in the postprocess directory
- Copy the install to a CD or something
- Copy to the computer you want to install on
- Run a little perl script I just wrote that goes through the
/etc/postprocess directory and runs everything there, adding .done to the
end of each script when its done with it, just like the installer does.

This seems to work fine, but I haven't tried it on a clean install of
Windows yet.  Its getting late so I'll do that tommorow.

If anyone is interested in the perl script I can post it.  Its a rather
simple script, but does the job.



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Re: Scriptable start.exe

2002-02-05 Thread Michael A Chase

- Original Message -
From: Joseph Annino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cygwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 21:03
Subject: Re: Scriptable start.exe


 Well, considering that I just need to install a cygwin configured a
certain
 way, I think I found a way around this limitation.  Being able to script
 setup.exe would be nice though.  Some package management ala RPM or
 something would be nice, but I understand priorities.

 So my work around:
 - Install cygwin the way I like it on one computer
 - Remove the .done extention from the stuff in the postprocess directory
 - Copy the install to a CD or something
 - Copy to the computer you want to install on
 - Run a little perl script I just wrote that goes through the
 /etc/postprocess directory and runs everything there, adding .done to the
 end of each script when its done with it, just like the installer does.

 This seems to work fine, but I haven't tried it on a clean install of
 Windows yet.  Its getting late so I'll do that tommorow.

 If anyone is interested in the perl script I can post it.  Its a rather
 simple script, but does the job.

If you are going to execute them from your Perl script, you don't need to
remove the .done.

Don't forget to add c:\cygwin\bin (or the equivalent) to the system %PATH%.

You also need to save and restore mount points:

# Save the mount points
# (can run under either bash or cmd.exe or command.com)
mount -m  mounts.bat

REM Restore the mount points
REM (could also run in bash, but bash would need the mount points)
mounts

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Re: Scriptable start.exe

2002-02-05 Thread Robert Collins


===
- Original Message -
From: Gary R. Van Sickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Setup.exe has never been scriptable in any respect, and no discussion
to that
 effect has occurred here to the best of my knowledge.  People have
been
 discussing adding such a feature, but I haven't seen any code.

There's a patch in the cygwin-patchs archive.

Rob


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Re: changing default text type without reinstall?

2002-02-05 Thread Steinar Bang

 Michael A Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Steinar Bang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Platform: CygWin 1.3.2, CygWin/XFree86 4.1.0, Win2k

 Is it possible to change from text type Unix to text type DOS,
 without reinstall?

 mount --help

I'm guessing mount -t is what I should use?  The explanation is
text files get \r\n line endings.

But I am unsure of how I should use this command.  What exactly does
it do?  Does it insert a translation between the file system and the
cygwin programs?

Will just running the mount command make the change persistent?  I
didn't find anything under /etc or /usr/etc that looked like a mount
table.

I am also usure of what directories I should run it on.  When I run
the command with no arguments, I get this response
~$ mount
C:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type system (binmode)
C:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type system (binmode)
C:\cygwin on / type system (binmode)
c: on /cygdrive/c type user (binmode,noumount)
d: on /cygdrive/d type user (binmode,noumount)
~$ 

I tried changing the mode of the /home directory
~$ mount -t c:\cygwin\home /home
mount: /home: Invalid argument

I tried changing the mode of the root directory
~$ mount -t c:\cygwin  /
mount: warning: user mount point of '/' masks system mount.
mount: /: Invalid argument

I tried seeing if I could change all directories.
~$ mount -t
mount: too many arguments

Thanx!


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Re: changing default text type without reinstall?

2002-02-05 Thread Steinar Bang

 Steinar Bang [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Michael A Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Steinar Bang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Platform: CygWin 1.3.2, CygWin/XFree86 4.1.0, Win2k

 Is it possible to change from text type Unix to text type DOS,
 without reinstall?

 mount --help

The results of mount --help, is here
http://www.cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-utils.html#MOUNT

 I'm guessing mount -t is what I should use?  The explanation is
 text files get \r\n line endings.

 But I am unsure of how I should use this command.  What exactly does
 it do?  Does it insert a translation between the file system and the
 cygwin programs?

 Will just running the mount command make the change persistent?  I
 didn't find anything under /etc or /usr/etc that looked like a mount
 table.

Here's some more information on the cygwin mount table
http://www.cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using.html#MOUNT-TABLE

The mount table is in the registry, and running the mount command
should put the changes there.  The documentation says that the mount
command can be used to add mount points, which makes it strange that
the below command failed:

 I tried changing the mode of the /home directory
   ~$ mount -t c:\cygwin\home /home
   mount: /home: Invalid argument

Why is /home an invalid argument?  Have I misunderstodd what is
meant by a posix path?

Thanx!


- Steinar

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