[Ready for test/1.5.1] cvs-1.11.6-2

2003-08-07 Thread Charles Wilson
With respect to the curr: release of cvs (1.11.5-1), this is a version
bump from 1.11.5 to 1.11.6, in addition to recompiling
against cygwin-1.5.1 and moving the documentation to /usr/share/*.  With
respect to the previously release test: version, this one is recompiled
against cygwin-1.5.1 not 1.5.0, and the documentation has been moved to
/usr/share/*.

  !WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING!

  You must convert the gdbm database files in your
  CVSROOT directory of all locally-hosted repositories
  from pre-cygwin-1.5.0 to post-cygwin-1.5.1.  You 
  can do this using the 'convert-gdbm' script in the
  new (1.8.3-4 or newer) package.

  cd ${CVSROOT}/CVSROOT
  convert-gdbm modules.db
  convert-gdbm val-tabs.db
  
  But back everything up, first!  No warrantee, express
  or implied, yadda yadda yadda.

  !WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING!

However, if you've already converted your databases when you upgraded to
the previous test: release of cvs (cvs-1.11.6-1) then you do not need to
do so again.
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Re: [Ready for test/1.5.1] postgresql 7.3.4-2

2003-08-07 Thread Jason Tishler
Chuck,

On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 05:58:06PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
 Jason Tishler wrote:
 Oops.  I should have indicated that this packages is built against
 cypipc 2.01-1.  Seems to work fine too.  Thanks, Chuck.
 
 Cool -- so that means you're running the dynamically linked daemon,
 and your app is also dynamically linked (to cygcygipc-2.dll)?

Yup!

$ cygcheck /usr/bin/postgres.exe 
C:/Cygwin/bin/postgres.exe
  C:/Cygwin/bin\cygcygipc-2.dll
C:/Cygwin/bin\cygwin1.dll
  C:\WINNT\System32\KERNEL32.dll
C:\WINNT\System32\ntdll.dll

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[Ready for test/1.5.1] jbigkit-1.5-2

2003-08-07 Thread Charles Wilson
* recompiled against cygwin-1.5.1 kernel
* documentation moved to /usr/share/*
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[ITP update] proj-4.4.7-2

2003-08-07 Thread Charles Wilson
A simple version bump to 4.4.7, plus recompiled against 1.5.1.

Still available from
http://www.neuro.gatech.edu/users/cwilson/cygutils/testing/release/proj/,
or simply point setup.exe at
http://www.neuro.gatech.edu/users/cwilson/cygutils/testing/
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Re: perl-5.8.1 test release

2003-08-07 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Hallo Pavel,

 Running the following test perl.exe caused a crash in the the Cygwin dll:

[...]

Yep, there are two threads tests failing from the perl testsuite.  I
havn't looked into this yet:

Failed 5/809 test scripts, 99.38% okay. 25/76969 subtests failed, 99.97% okay.
Failed TestStat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
---
../ext/POSIX/t/sigaction.t   251   4.00%  22
../ext/threads/t/join.t   0   13912   14 116.67%  6-12
../ext/threads/t/thread.t 5  128025   24  96.00%  14-25
op/alarm.t  255 65280 48 200.00%  1-4
op/sysio.t   391   2.56%  39
28 tests and 372 subtests skipped.


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RE: XWinrc configurable server (menus/icons)

2003-08-07 Thread Ralf Habacker
Hi all,


 The most recent patch looks pretty good from your description.

  c) Replaces %display% with 127.0.0.1:display.0 in commands

 Huh, I was going to say that %display% should be replaced with
 127.0.0.1:0.0, but then I remembered that we know the 0.0, but we
 don't know that the user connected via 127.0.0.1.  However, should we
 just choose to replace display with 127.0.0.1:d.s where d is display
 and s is screen?  I know that some users report better performance when
 using their actual ip instead of lookback for DISPLAY...

... because the performance of cygwin's tcp implementation is more than twice as
much as the unix domain implementation.
I assume that this is caused by the additional security and emulation stuff
overhead, which is needed to implement unix domain sockets on top of tcp
sockets.

See http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2002-01/msg01719.html for further
details.

Ralf



Re: [Off topic] List of current notebooks

2003-08-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 10:09:28AM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
All,

You may have been reading my saga about troubles with laptop computers. 
 Yesterday I put together a fairly comprehensive list of current 
notebooks that may be of interest to some of you.  My basic requirements 
were SXGA+ screen (1400x1050) or greater and integrated 802.11g.  Dell 
is left off of the list because the two Inspiron 8500s that they sent me 
both randomly freeze and this is a well documented problem.

Anyhow, the list is here:

http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/Notebooks-20030806-0956.pdf (47 KiB)


I choose the $1949 Gateway 450X.  However, if 802.11G is not a 
requirement, then the $1678 Toshiba Satelite Pro 6100 is surely the way 
to go, as it is a preassembled unit that ships the same day it is ordered.

FWIW, I came very close to buying a Toshiba Satellite Pro 6100 before I
was scammed out of the money for the laptop that I thought I was buying.
It seemed like a nice system.

cgf


Re: rfe: seamless windows integration

2003-08-07 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Jack Tanner wrote:
Harold L Hunt II wrote:

Thanks.  Let me tell you, we already have a laundry list of dream 
features.  We just need people to start working on them.


Harold,

Thanks. If I wanted to hear you be dismissive and condescending, I 
could've just gone back and read the list archive.

Dismissive and condescending?  No, that was not my intention, sorry that 
you got that impression.

I'm not a developer, but I am a user interested in the development of 
this project, and I'm doing what I can to contribute through testing and 
reporting bugs. Moreover, I have a fair amount of academic traning in 
human-computer interaction and user experience engineering, and my 
suggestions are based on a thought-out analysis.

I don't doubt that you have plenty of training.

However, have you read your suggestions and talked to some programmers 
about them?  Here, lets take a look.  [Yes, now you should be intrepting 
my remarks as generally pissy, snotty, dismissive, and condescending].

1. X should run as a service. There's no reason for it to run as a 
user-launched app.

This really doesn't matter and, in fact, is probably incorrect. 
Cygwin/XFree86 needs to interact with the display (else you could use 
Xvfb), so running it as a service that won't always have a desktop 
connected is pointless.  Furthermore, a machine shared by multiple users 
(like a Terminal Services server) will not be able to service all users 
with a single instance of XFree86 running.  Another point is that, I 
believe, services that interact with the desktop need to run under an 
actual user account and it would be silly to have XFree86 running under 
'bill' when 'steve' is logged in.

Besides, this could be done with a simple shortcut in the Startup group 
in the Start menu.  In fact, that should be done and had all of the bugs 
worked out before anyone talks any further of services.

2. All X client application on one's machine should have shortcuts 
associated with them in the start menu, and these shortcuts should be 
created automatically during installation.

This is icing on the cake.  This is the kind of thing that Microsoft 
hires 500 college interns to write in the summer because it takes a hell 
of a lot of time and attention to detail to get it 'right', whereas the 
overall benefit is very small in comparison.

Furthermore, this requires interacting with the Cygwin setup developers. 
 You think I am mean?

3. Exiting X (e.g., by stopping the service) should list all cygwin 
processes that were launched under X and prompt the user to terminate 
them. For example, an ssh-agent launched from an xterm should be killed 
automatically.

Huh?  Exiting X right now kills all connected clients.  There is already 
an Are you sure? warning dialog.  Free software is all about bang for 
the buck; the above feature might be nice, but it only matters to 
marketroids.

Enmity aside, it wouldn't take too long to actually consider and respond 
to what I suggested, and I would welcome discussion.

Yes it would.  It took me like 10 minutes to write this reply.  I don't 
have to be party to any and all discussions that take place on this 
list.  I wrote my reply and said my piece.  Others were free to jump all 
over your email and praise it.

Furthermore, you got a reply to your message from Earle indicating his 
interest.  So, I don't see why you have to have a beef with me when you 
appear to already have another supporter with influence.

After all of that, my position is exactly as I stated, without malice, 
in my original email: those suggestions will go on the wish list, below 
other more fundamental problems like crashes (-clipboard when copying 
large amouns of text) and startup failures (with -clipboard and 
-multiwindow).  There is still a lot of architectural work that needs to 
be done before we will start worrying about icing the cake.

Harold



RE: No keyboard with XFree86 4.0.3

2003-08-07 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Lester Ingber wrote:

 I am using a startxwin.sh file modified (I use a copy in
 /usr/local/bin/startxwin.sh) as
 
 XWin -unixkill -rootless -emulate3buttons -clipboard 
 wmaker 
 xsetroot -solid blue
 xterm -sb -bg white -fg darkblue -cr red -ms red -bd red -geometry 80x84+532+0 -name 
 center 
 xterm -sb -bg white -fg darkblue -cr red -ms red -bd red -geometry 80x84+1033+0 
 -name right 
 xterm -sb -bg white -fg darkblue -cr red -ms red -bd red -geometry 215x88-70+0 -name 
 large

So what. How is this related to the no keyboard problem?

The instructions were for the windows control panel.

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First pass at script to build start menu icons

2003-08-07 Thread Brian E. Gallew
OK, it took me a little longer to get the script to this point than I 
would have liked, BUT I'm pretty happy with the results.  Comments are 
welcome, flames  /dev/null.

#! /bin/sh
# Author: Brian Gallew [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TOPFOLDER=$(cygpath -A -P)/Cygwin-XFree86

#Ensure that a given program is somewhere in the current $PATH
function checkpath () {
c=$(which $1 2 /dev/null)
test ! -z $c
}

# Create a shortcut for an application that draws its own windows
# Takes four or five arguments: appname, description folder, the
# offset of the icon , and any arguments

function xapp () {
app=$1
shift
description=$1
shift
folder=${TOPFOLDER}/$1
shift
icon=--icon=/cygwin.ico
test -z $2 || icon=--iconoffset=$2
shift
test -d ${folder} || mkdir -p ${folder}
mkshortcut ${icon} --arguments=${app}\ -display\ :0\ $@ \
--name=${folder}/${description} \
--workingdir=${HOME} /usr/X11R6/bin/run.exe
}

# Create a shortcut for a text-output-only application
function tapp () {
app=$1
shift
description=$1
shift
folder=${TOPFOLDER}/$1
shift
test -d ${folder} || mkdir -p ${folder}
mkshortcut --arguments=xterm\ -display\ :0\ -e\ sh\ -c\ \${app}\ -display\ :0\ 
$@\ | less\ \
--name=${folder}/${description} --icon=/cygwin.ico \
--workingdir=${HOME} /usr/X11R6/bin/run.exe
test $? -eq 0  return
echo $app:$description:$folder::
}

#format of an entry here:
#executable name:Description:sub-folder:which function to call:icon offset:arguments
#If the sub-folder is empty, then the icon will be placed in $TOPFOLDER
#the function to call should be either xapp or tapp
#If the program provides its own icon in the executable, this is the offset for it (0 
based)
#The arguments (if any) will be appended to the command.
X11proggies=(
bitmap:Bitmap Editor::xapp::
dpsexec:Display PostScript command interface:Tools:tapp::
dpsinfo:The Display PostScript extension:Information:tapp::
editres:Xaw resource editor:Tools:xapp::
fc-list:List available FreeType fonts:Information:tapp::
glxgears:Gear Demo:Toys:xapp::
glxinfo:GLX information:Information:tapp::
ico:Bouncing Icosohedron:Toys:xapp::
oclock:Shaped Clock::xapp::
showrgb:List rgb database:Information:tapp::
texteroids:DPS demo asteroids game:Games:xapp::
viewres:Xaw resource viewer:Tools:xapp::
vncviewer:VNC viewer client::xapp::
wmagnify:magnifying glass:Tools:xapp::
xbiff:mail checker::xapp::
xcalc:Calculator::xapp::
xclock:Clock::xapp::
xconsole:Console:Tools:xapp::
xcutsel:Clipboard manipulator:Tools:xapp::
xditview:Ditroff output viewer::xapp::
xdpyinfo:Display information:Information:tapp::
xdvi:DVI viewer::xapp::
xedit:Simple file editor:Tools:xapp::
xev:X11 event debugger:Tools:xapp::
xeyes:Watches the Mouse:Toys:xapp::
xfontsel:Pick a font:Tools:tapp::
xfsinfo:The font server:Information:tapp::
xgc:X11 demo:Toys:xapp::
xkill:Kill an X11 window:Tools:xapp::
xlogo:Display the X11 logo:Toys:xapp::
xlsatoms:List available atoms:Information:tapp::
xlsclients:List all connected clients:Information:tapp::
xlsfonts:List all available fonts:Information:tapp::
xmag:Magnifying glass:Tools:xapp::
xman:Manual page reader::xapp::
xmh:GUI for the MH mail system::xapp::
xprop:Display the propertis of a window:Information:tapp::
xrefresh:Refresh all X11 clients:Tools:xapp::
xterm:X Terminal::xapp:0:
xtrapinfo:The TRAP extension:Information:tapp::
xvinfo:The X-Video Extension:Information:tapp::
xwd:Dump X11 window image to file:Tools:tapp::
xwininfo:A single window:Information:tapp::
gvim:GUI for VIM::xapp:0:
emacs:Editor::xapp:0:
xemacs:Editor::xapp:0:
idle:Python IDE::xapp::
rxvt:RXVT::xapp:0:
)

for index in $(seq 0 ${#X11proggies[*]})
do
a=${X11proggies[$index]}
test -z $a  continue
# This next line breaks up the elements and set $1..$6 appropriately
IFS=:;set $a;unset IFS
checkpath $1
test $? -eq 0 || continue
case $4 in
xapp)
xapp $1 $2 $3 $5 $6
;;
tapp)
tapp $1 $2 $3 $6
;;
*)
echo `hosed!`
echo $*
esac
done


Re: XWinrc configurable server (menus/icons)

2003-08-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:36:10PM -0700, Earle F. Philhower III wrote:
Howdy again Christopher...

At 11:00 PM 8/6/2003 -0400, you wrote:
I'm not really up on cygwin's process model, what would the setsid() call
do?  I have read the man page and I'm still not sure what's a session ID 
or
why I'd want a new one...
It would disassociate a tty from any child process.  It's often done
after file descriptors have been closed.
I don't know for sure that it will help anything but it may stop the
console windows from popping up -- at least in cygwin 1.5.x.

Thanks, I added the setsid() just after closing all but STDIN/OUT/ERR
and before the execl() and didn't notice any problems, so next time
I put up a patch it'll have this change included.  [Of course, I'm
running Cygwin 1.3 and not the 1.5 you're working on...]

...so watch how it will cause cygwin to crash and burn when you port to
1.5.1... :-)

cgf


winsup ChangeLog

2003-08-07 Thread cgf
CVSROOT:/cvs/uberbaum
Module name:winsup
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   2003-08-06 03:39:36

Modified files:
.  : ChangeLog 

Log message:
fix typo

Patches:
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.78r2=1.79



mount (1) man page - inccorect description of -c option

2003-08-07 Thread Pavel Tsekov
Hello,

The description of the --change-cygdrive-prefix option states that By
default, the
cygdrive-prefix applies only to the current user. Currently, mount changes
by
defult the system prefix.

Pavel

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Re: perl -MCPAN -e shell crashes w98se

2003-08-07 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Hallo Graham,

Am Dienstag, 5. August 2003 um 20:26 schriebst du:

 perl -MCPAN -e shell
 +
 install DBI or 
 install CPANPLUS

 both completely crash windows under cygwin.
 The files:
 DBI-1.37.tar.gz
 CPANPLUS-0.042.tar.gz

 are downloaded and the last action seems to have been starting zlib and 
 doing some checksums.

 I have activestate also and somehow it has created an activestate dir in 
 cygwin $HOME. I am wondering what relevance this has.

 Anybody experience similar ?

What says which perl?  And can you please send the output of
cygcheck -svr as an attachment?


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Re: SSH session terminates with Ctl+C

2003-08-07 Thread Brian Dessent
Jeff Nokes wrote:

 I've ran into a strange issue, one of which I have not run into before with
 cygwin.  I have a W2K workstation at work, and I use cygwin to ssh into both
 Solaris and RedHat Linux boxes to do development.  Sometimes, while ssh'd into
 a remote host, I have to 'Ctl+C' out of a process when it hangs.  When
 connected to the Solaris boxes, the Ctl+C just puts me back at the command
 prompt on the remote host, which is what I would expect it to do.  But when
 I'm connected to a Linux box and I Ctl+C out of a process, not only does it
 kill the process on the remote Linux host, but it kills my active ssh session
 with that host and puts me back in the default cygwin shell in my W2K
 environment.

If you're using CMD.EXE for your command prompt you might try setting
tty in the CYGWIN environment variable.  Also, give rxvt a try.  Make
sure that your TERM is set to Cygwin or rxvt for CMD.EXE and rxvt,
repectively.  You shouldn't have to explicitly set TERM to anything, it
should take the correct value without forcing it.

Brian

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Re: Less fails with link error

2003-08-07 Thread Ronald Landheer-Cieslak
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 05:45:23PM +0200, David Balazic wrote:
 I just selected the latest version of less ( by clicking on its name to
 cycle versions ).
 There was no warning that it is incompatible with the cygwin version.
Cycling through the versions is a dangerous thing these days - you should only
do it if you know what you're doing. The version Setup proposes is the one you
should normally use, because it's the one the maintainer wants you to use. The
maintainer is usually right about what you should use..

  You used Setup to install, didn't you?
 yes.
  Use cygcheck to get the version of less, then :)
 I llearned something new.
 rpm would catch the incompatibility though :-)
versioned dependencies in Setup are a work-in-progress *and* require the 
maintainers to put them in the setup.hint files. Neither is magic.

IIRC, rpm doesn't use any wizzardry either: versioned dependencies are the
maintainer's job.

As for the state of progress on versioned dependencies in Setup (before you 
ask) IIRC it needs testing more than anything else - but one of the Setup
people will surely correct me if I'm wrong..

rlc



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Re: What is the minimum needed to run gtar?

2003-08-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 02:29:44PM -0700, David A. Case wrote:
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003, David Rothenberger wrote:
 
 You can find out what DLLs an executable needs by running cygcheck on it.

Note that this may not give a complete list.  Consider rxvt.exe:

quine% cygcheck rxvt.exe
Found: .\rxvt.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\rxvt.exe
rxvt.exe
  .\cygwin1.dll
C:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNEL32.dll
  C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntdll.dll
  C:\WINDOWS\System32\USER32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\System32\GDI32.dll
  C:\WINDOWS\System32\ADVAPI32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\System32\RPCRT4.dll


This might suggest that only cygwin1.dll is needed (besides the windows
stuff).  However, continuing (in X, with DISPLAY set):

quine% cd /usr/X11R6/bin
quine% mv libX11.dll libX11.dll~
quine% back
/bin
quine% ./rxvt.exe
failed to load libX11.dll

Putting libX11.dll~ back to its original name again allows rxvt.exe to run
correctly.  Thus in this case (at least) cygcheck is not finding _all_ of the
dll's that are needed.

Think dlopen().

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Re: (latest install from site) cygwin1.dll 1.3.22-dontuse-21 --bash buggy behaviours under windows 2000

2003-08-07 Thread sandeep
* First line of script is
#! /bin/bash

* my login shell is bash
* problems show themselves irrespective of how i invoke the script - whether
./scriptname or bash scriptname

* All the mentioned problems are observed in one single script that's around
1500 lines

- Original Message -
From: Andrew Markebo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Just a quick question, how do you fire away the script/s? do you use a
 #!/bin/sh or you run bash script in your shell/whatever?

   /A

 / sandeep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | hello,
 |
 | I have come across some problems with cygwin (they repeat even with the
latest
 | cygwin i installed two days back) while working on windows 2000.
 |
 | cygwin1.dll Product Version is 1.3.22-dontuse-21
 |
 | bash --version shows
 | GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(9)-release (i686-pc-cygwin)
 | Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 |
 | The problems are --
 |
 | [1]  for i in list-of-file-name
 |   do
 | echo . $i 
 | cat $i
 |   done
 |
 | Sometimes the order of echoed statement and corresponding file content gets
 | changed and I end up getting output like
 |
 | .. file20 ..
 | .. file21 ..
 | .. file22 ..
 | contents of file20
 | contents of file21
 | contents of file22
 |
 | [2] following problem is more weird . I have a sequence of two consecutive
 | statements in a bash-script
 |
 | sed -e 'sed-expression' file1  file2
 | mv file2 file1
 |
 | quite many times in a run of script 'mv' cribs about *file2 not existing*
 | my understanding of bash goes as -- file2 will be created/zeroed-out first
and
 | then sed will be processed, so file2 should exist before mv executes.
 | as a note :- file2 doesn't exist before sed (manipulations involving file2
are
 | only in this place in script)
 |
 | I also tried putting an  b/w two statements to ensure 'mv' doesn't happen
 | before sed is successfully done. that also didn't eliminate the problem.
 |
 | [3] At times some of the echo-ed statements don't find place in redirected
 | output file (I have no idea if this behaviour repeats on console output
too).
 |
 | situation is like --
 |
 | cp basefile tempfile
 | add-required-statements  tempfile
 |
 | add-required-statements is a bash shell function that echoes many statements
to
 | be put in tempfile.
 | what i have observed is - at times, initial 3-4 echo-ed statements don't
find
 | place in tempfile, otherwise things are okay.
 |
 | problem used to come even earlier, when all those statements were appended
 | like --
 |
 | cp basefile tempfile
 | echo ..  tempfile
 | 
 | echo   tempfile
 |
 | i went for some reorganisation of script to reduce number of  tempfile
 | checking if it eliminated the problem.
 |
 | Any clue to what's happening and why it could be happening, is welcome. Are
 | these problems to do with cygwin bash or with windows 2000?
 |
 | sandeep
 |
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Re: Yes but I don't understand ...

2003-08-07 Thread Wayne
I thought it went like this:

In the beginning, there was B20,
and it was GOOD.
After that, it went downhill...

;-)

Wayne


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Re: What is the minimum needed to run gtar?

2003-08-07 Thread Max Bowsher
David A. Case wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 06, 2003, David Rothenberger wrote:

 You can find out what DLLs an executable needs by running cygcheck on it.

 Note that this may not give a complete list.  Consider rxvt.exe:

 quine% cygcheck rxvt.exe
 Found: .\rxvt.exe
 Found: C:\cygwin\bin\rxvt.exe
 rxvt.exe
   .\cygwin1.dll
 C:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNEL32.dll
   C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntdll.dll
   C:\WINDOWS\System32\USER32.dll
 C:\WINDOWS\System32\GDI32.dll
   C:\WINDOWS\System32\ADVAPI32.dll
 C:\WINDOWS\System32\RPCRT4.dll


 This might suggest that only cygwin1.dll is needed (besides the windows
 stuff).  However, continuing (in X, with DISPLAY set):

 quine% cd /usr/X11R6/bin
 quine% mv libX11.dll libX11.dll~
 quine% back
 /bin
 quine% ./rxvt.exe
 failed to load libX11.dll

 Putting libX11.dll~ back to its original name again allows rxvt.exe to run
 correctly.  Thus in this case (at least) cygcheck is not finding _all_ of
 the dll's that are needed.

True, but the use of LoadLibrary/dlopen is rare (and that is why cygcheck is
unable to detect the dependency in this case).

Max.


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RE: What is the minimum needed to run gtar?

2003-08-07 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen \(garbage mail\)
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
 Of Larry Hall

 Biederman, Steve wrote:

  I want to allow the users I support to be able to run Cygwin
 tar on their Windows machines.
  These machines have not had any Cygwin installed; they're just
 bare Windows machines.
 
  I provided them tar.exe and cygwin1.dll and assumed that with
 these, they could run
  Cygwin tar sucessfully.  It appears that that isn't the case:
 machines without Cygwin
  installed see different behavior than machines which have it
 installed.  (Running tar
  on machines without Cygwin installed creates incorrect tar archives.)
 
  What is the minimum I need to provide to a non-Cygwin Windows
 machine to get
  Cygwin tar to run reliably?


 Dunno.  Perhaps you need to provide some data on what's wrong with the
 archives made and some specifics on what you're using (cygcheck output
 perhaps?) and an example of the problem.

 A work-around might be to use Winrar - it seems to grok tar/gz files very
well.
I'd say that RAR is a good replacement for Winzip.
The culprit is: 40 days trial version @ http://www.rarlab.com

/Hannu E K Nevalainen, B.Sc. EE Microcomputer systems - 59?14'N, 17?12'E
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problem wit iwidgets tk/tcl and wmaker

2003-08-07 Thread Omar Martin Medina Yzaguirre
hello All together,

1.-Background:
cygwin donfiguration:
Cygwin DLL version info:
DLL version: 1.3.22
DL epoch: 19
DLL bad signal mask: 19005
DLL old termios: 5
DLL malloc env: 28
API major: 0
API minor: 78
Shared data: 3
DLL identifier: cygwin1
Mount registry: 2
Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
Program options name: Program Options
Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
Cygdrive default prefix: 
Build date: Tue Mar 18 09:20:11 EST 2003
CVS tag: dontuse-21
Shared id: cygwin1S3

tcltk   20030214-1
WindowMaker 0.80.0-2

2.- i have two questions how to use 
iwidgets package from tk/tcl
about crashing of wmaker

2.1.-
when i start the sh /usr/share/iwidgets4.0.1/demos/catalog, i get an error 
messagebox , it tell me that, the library libitcl32.a could not be loaded. i modified 
the file /lib/itcl3.2/pkgIndex but without success. i tried with differents 
modification , but how i said, i did not have success:
modifications
#package ifneeded Itcl 3.2 [list load [file join $dir .. libitcl32.a] Itcl]
package ifneeded Itcl 3.2 [list load [file join [pwd] .. libitcl32.a] itcl]
#package ifneeded Itcl 3.2 [list load C:/OME_Folder/cygwin/lib/libitcl32.a Itcl]
#package ifneeded Itcl 3.2 [list load [file join OME_Folder cygwin lib libitcl32.a] 
Itcl]
#package ifneeded Itcl 3.2 [list load [file join OME_Folder cygwin lib libitcl32.a] 
Itcl]
#package ifneeded Itcl 3.2 [list load [eval exec cygpath -u 
C:/OME_Folder/cygwin/lib/libitcl32.a] Itcl]
#package ifneeded Itcl 3.2 [list load [eval exec cygpath -w 
C:/OME_Folder/cygwin/lib/libitcl32.a] Itcl]
#package ifneeded Itcl 3.2 [list load [eval exec cygpath -u 
C:/OME_Folder/cygwin/lib/libitcl32.a] Itcl]
#package ifneeded Itcl 3.2 [list load C:\\OME_Folder\\cygwin\\lib\\libitcl32.a Itcl]
#package ifneeded Itcl 3.2 [list load [file join OME_Folder cygwin lib libitcl32.a] 
Itcl]

the errormessages vary forom case to case  e.g
can't find package Itcl 3.2
could no load library ..  invalid argument
could no load library ..  library or dependence library could not be found in path

what can i do to resolve this problem?


2.2 About crashing of wmaker
 i modified the startxwin.sh 
 XWin -fullscreen 
 wmaker 

i get following error with signal 11 
wmaker could not read die File under GNUstep. I know, there is a similar reporting, 
but no realy a solution comments 

what can i do  to resolve too this problem

thank very much

Omar
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RE: OT: to be nice, or not...

2003-08-07 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen \(garbage mail\)
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
 Of Jon LaBadie

 On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 07:42:04PM +0200, Hannu E K Nevalainen 
 (garbage mail) wrote:

--8--
  *The point* is beeing able to launch the time/cpu-consuming 
  task and then append the paging later.
  
  The obvious is to concatenate cat ... with the line above it
   - but this is NOT the answer I'm asking for.
 
   $ (
long task
second task
) 
   $ 
 jl

 No, the first task doesn't start until you've finished typing.
Your suggestion is like the obvious thing above, but thanks for trying.

/Hannu E K Nevalainen, B.Sc. EE Microcomputer systems - 59?14'N, 17?12'E
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OT: to be nice, or not...

2003-08-07 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail)

Scenario:
 I launch a task at normal priority (nice-ness 0)
 When this task has finished I wish to be paged...

 In other words;
 Question: Can I have one task be postponed while another one
   is still executing?

Is this possible?


e.g. a command sequence that might take a long time:

 $ echo list.md5 ; find -type f | xargs md5sum -b list.md5
 $ nice -n 19 cat TaskDone.wav /dev/dsp


*The point* is beeing able to launch the time/cpu-consuming task and then
append the paging later.

The obvious is to concatenate cat ... with the line above it
 - but this is NOT the answer I'm asking for.

/Hannu E K Nevalainen, Mariefred, Sweden

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Re: Cygwin DLL configuration

2003-08-07 Thread Max Bowsher
Doru Carastan wrote:
 David Rothenberger wrote:
 Gerrit recently posted a script ...

 See http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-07/msg01316.html.


 Thank you David, it did the trick. tooldir is the culprit.

 ifeq ($(target_alias),$(host_alias))
 ifeq ($(build_alias),$(host_alias))
 tooldir:=$(exec_prefix)
 else
 tooldir:=$(exec_prefix)/$(target_alias)
 endif
 else
 tooldir:=$(exec_prefix)/$(target_alias)
 endif

 For some reason the tooldir variable does not get set to ${exec_prefix}.

The reason is that the top level Makefile defines tooldir, and passes it
down through the FLAGS_TO_PASS mechanism, causing it to appear on the
command line of the sub-make. And command line variable definitions override
normal definitions of variables inside Makefiles.

Max.


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Re: give args to setup in command line or ini file

2003-08-07 Thread Max Bowsher
Delarue David wrote:
 Hello
 I would like to know if it's possible to give args to the setup in a
 command line or directly in the setup.ini .
 What i want to do is :
 - launch the setup with 'install from local directory' check by default
 in the 'choose a download source' screen.

Yes, you may use -L for now, but as of the next release of setup, it will
remember the previous selection anyway.

 - in the 'select packages' screen i want to check the reinstall mode by
 default

Why would you want to do such a strange thing?

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Re: 1.5.x goes current on 2003-08-23?

2003-08-07 Thread Jason Tishler
Nicholas,

On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 02:03:02AM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
 Nicholas Wourms wrote:
 Perl is required for many operations, and (as I'm sure Chuck will
 agree) having to rebase a *critical* core application *just* to get
 it work is unacceptable.  
 
 Hey, don't drag me into this.  Rebase is (currently) a necessary evil 
 for python and maybe perl, but I gave up maintaining perl a LONG time 
 ago and I don't intend to stick my nose into it now.  It's Gerritt's 
 baby, and I trust him to do whatever is necessary to make stuff work. 
 But, he's asked for help -- so help, dammit, don't carp.
   ^^

Exactly.

On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 07:56:38PM -0400, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
 No offense to Jason, but rebase is really just papering over a much
 bigger infrastructure problem which isn't going away.  The problem is
 that rebase all only takes into account the dll's installed by the
 installer.  It certainly doesn't take into account dll's which aren't
 named .dll (like in Ruby which leaves them named *.so).  It also
 won't take into account user-installed dlls or perl modules.  I've
 managed to work around this on my Win2k machine by modifying rebase
 all to use `locate` and to run rebase on any .so's it finds in the
 Ruby dir.

If rebase and rebaseall don't meet your needs, then supply the patch(es)
to enhance them so they do.

Jason

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Re: (latest install from site) cygwin1.dll 1.3.22-dontuse-21 --bash buggy behaviours under windows 2000

2003-08-07 Thread sandeep
 * All the mentioned problems are observed in one single script that's around
 1500 lines
A small correction to my previous mail,  problem [1] is observed on bash prompt
too. I was trying to check for a situation that is happening in script where
output-redirection is involved. The original snippet that led me to this
experiment is as follows  ---

echo -n Status :   logfile
cat results  logfile
echo   logfile
echo   logfile

results never contain a new line, but a simple string consisting of english
alphabets (dumped into this file by some tool before).

Expected output in logfile for this sequence is of the form --

Status : XXX
---

Most of the times the output is as expected, but sometimes it turns out to be
like

Status :
XXX---


  | [1]  for i in list-of-file-name
  |   do
  | echo . $i 
  | cat $i
  |   done
  |
  | Sometimes the order of echoed statement and corresponding file content
gets
  | changed and I end up getting output like
  |
  | .. file20 ..
  | .. file21 ..
  | .. file22 ..
  | contents of file20
  | contents of file21
  | contents of file22



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Re: Win2k and cygwin memory leak

2003-08-07 Thread chris
Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:32:42AM -0400, Rolf Campbell wrote:
 

This may be a Win2000 problem, not a cygwin problem...What service pack 
are you running?
   

May be?  You run a bunch of programs, exit them, and Windows slowly loses
memory after each exit?
Hard to see how that's a cygwin problem.
 

That may be partly true, but is also not helpful. If there is a memory 
leak in cygwin then tracking down exactly was is causing it would of 
course be a good idea, so it can be stopped.

Chris

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Re: SSH session terminates with Ctl+C

2003-08-07 Thread Jeff Nokes
 
 Did you check the versions of sshd running on Solaris and Linux?  FWIW,
 ssh into Cygwin from Cygwin shows the same results as you say you get
 from Solaris.  But this doesn't seem to be a Cygwin problem.  If checking
 the sshd versions doesn't shed light on the problem, I would suggest
 taking the question to a SSH forum, perhaps with a bent toward Linux.


I understand what you are saying, but I don't think it is the case.  I've
actually sat physically at the Linux boxes, using X, and ssh'd to localhost
and I can login just fine.  I can Ctl+C all day and it doesn't kill my ssh
session.  I can use SecureCRT from my W2K workstation, and it doesn't kill my
session.  I can even use cygwin to ssh to the Linux boxes (forwarding X
packets), and run an xterm on my local W2K Xserver, and Ctl+C doesn't kill
my ssh session.  It's only when going from the bash shell in cygwin to the
remote host, and using Ctl+C that this issue happens.  That's why I was
thinking that something local in the cygwin environment is catching that
signal, and terminating my ssh session, or something like that.

In response to the issue with the TERM being set properly.  I've tried leaving
the default 'cygwin' tty and set it to 'vt100', the behavior is still the
same.

Thanks again for you help,
- Jeff


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Re: getopt output reordering

2003-08-07 Thread Max Bowsher
Patrick Eisenacher wrote:
 Hi Max,

 thanks for your quick response. Indeed, setting the
 POSIXLY_INCORRECT_GETOPT environment variable did the trick and produces
 a result that is in synch with the man page.

 Since I don't know anything about the various flavours of getopts around
 and what is posixly correct and what not, and I guess a lot of other
 users don't know neither, how about updating the man pages to be in
 synch with the current behaviour and adding a paragraph on the
 POSIXLY_INCORRECT_GETOPT stuff?

PTC.

Given this:
 ... because getopt is statically linked, this only works for
 programs rebuilt since this change was made, and many haven't been yet.
such a patch is unlikely to be commited until after 1.5 has been released,
as most stuff will have been recompiled by then.


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Re: Win2k and cygwin memory leak

2003-08-07 Thread Brian . Kelly

 What a clueless comment.

H  -  I'll go with that!! (if it makes you feel better - or even if it
doesn't)

 It is not denial to assert that an OS which allocates memory and
doesn't
 free it is broken.  If cygwin triggers a windows problem that does not
mean
 that it is a cygwin problem no matter how hard that is for you to
understand.

Gosh, isn't there a *win* in *cygwin*?? Not that I'm demanding anything
or goodness knows, making suggestions about how you 'Oh Great One' should
allocate
your resources - goodness *no*! But this notion that a WinDoze problem is
not
*also* a cyg*win* problem - is quite a *CURIOUS* one to this *clueless*
simpleton - INDEED!!

Seems in a way that you're saying I don't care if what I built doesn't
work for this
or that because it's Microsoft's problem.

I really don't think you as one who is quick to let Microsoft define what
he can
and can't do - as you yourself have said

   I fix all sorts of problems in cygwin which are really windows
problems

So indeed you pick and choose which *Microsoft* problems to fix that keep
cyg*win*
from working - all along *denying* it's a cyg*win* problem .

Interesting how a 'Great' mind works  ;-) .


Brian Kelly





Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]@cygwin.com on 08/07/2003 01:56:16
PM

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To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:Re: Win2k and cygwin memory leak


On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:52:53PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah well, someday the denial will end, or the problem will get fixed
unintentionally when some other change is made and the cygworld will
go on.

What a clueless comment.

It is not denial to assert that an OS which allocates memory and doesn't
free it is broken.  If cygwin triggers a windows problem that does not mean
that it is a cygwin problem no matter how hard that is for you to
understand.

I fix all sorts of problems in cygwin which are really windows problems
but,
golly gee, if I can't duplicate them, I can't fix them.  And, my
willingness
to debug some things is limited.  If it takes running a perl script every
five minutes for a day to duplicate the problem, then that is not something
that I'm going to do anytime soon.

This is not denial.  This is a refusal to take a large amount of my time
to find a workaround to a windows problem.
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Directory problems after fresh install of v1.3.22-1

2003-08-07 Thread David Balazic
Hi !
I just installed cygwin by downloading and running setup.exe as the
administrator
on my win2000pro-sp3 system.
The vew page says : Latest Cygwin DLL release version is 1.3.22-1

In the setup wizard, I choose install for all users, root dir : X:\cygwin

After the installation finished, i started the start menu entry for
Cygwin Bash Shell pointing to X:\cygwin\cygwin.bat

This is what happened in the window that appeared :

bash.exe: warning: could not find /tmp, please create!
bash-2.05b$ mount
bash: mount: command not found
bash-2.05b$ pwd
/usr/bin
bash-2.05b$ cd /usr
bash: cd: /usr: No such file or directory
bash-2.05b$ cd ..
bash: cd: ..: No such file or directory


I am confused.
Is this normal behavior ?

Regards,
David

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Re: Cygwin 1.5.1 libc.a link problem

2003-08-07 Thread Jason Tishler
Gerrit,

On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:10:31PM +0200, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
 Jason, thank you very much!

You are very welcome.  This one became quite a hang banger for me.
Knowing that I assisted someone else is helping to ease the pain... :,)

Jason

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Re: Win2k and cygwin memory leak

2003-08-07 Thread Brian . Kelly

May I call you Jim? I may be clueless, but I'm not stupid. I would never
question King Faylor's ability to find
and fix, or work around a memory leak (and I even respect his decision not
to) but I would certainly question yours 

As for the venom being spewed on this thread, all I want to say is that I
spent hundreds of hours
cobbling together work-arounds so I could get an open source automated
infrastructure working in a large
organization. Cygwin is just one piece of the puzzle - but it is a critical
indispensible piece. I consider my time
just as ( if not more ) valuable than anyone else's participating here.
These disputed memory leaks were for
me the biggest obsticle preventing me from achieving my ultimate objective
- which saved my company hundreds
of thousands of dollars they otherwise would have had to spend to acquire
the solution from third party vendors.

It would have been nice if there was an acknowledgement of this problem
(cygwin's or not) rather than attempted
character assassinations. But the value that Cygwin delivers for me and my
organization is so valuable and
irreplacible that *putting up* with the *meanness* here is small price to
pay to get the answers I frequently need.






Jim Drash [EMAIL PROTECTED]@cygwin.com on 08/07/2003 04:18:16 PM

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Subject:Re: Win2k and cygwin memory leak



I will be happy to find and fix your specific memory leak.  My going rate
is $200/hour.  If that is satisfactory with you we can talk. If not, you
have the source, the compiler, the debugger, find it yourself or find
someone who will at a lower rate than mine.

Otherwise, bugger off!


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getopt output reordering (was: xmlto package install question)

2003-08-07 Thread Patrick Eisenacher
Talking to Tim Waugh, the author of xmlto, revealed that the order of 
arguments doesn't matter on his system (that's Red Hat, I guess), 
whereas it matters indeed on Cygwin.

Investigating it a bit further revealed that Cygwin's getopt differs 
from what he expected:

getopt -- o: xmlto -o foo bar

should output this:

 -o 'foo' -- 'xmlto' 'bar'
Cygwin's getopt outputs like this:

$ getopt -- o: xmlto -o foo bar
 -- 'xmlto' '-o' 'foo' 'bar'
Checking the archive I found a thread from back in January talking about 
the inability of Cygwin's getopt to do reordering of arguments. I guess 
we're facing here the same issue: the option arguments are not output 
before the non-option arguments.

Was any work done wrt this issue? Is anything planned?

Tim is going to update the xmlto usage information to reflect the proper 
order of arguments.

Patrick

Gerrit P. Haase schrieb:

usage: xmlto FORMAT [OPTION]... XML
OPTIONs are:
  -v  verbose output (-vv for very verbose)
  -x stylesheet   use the specified stylesheet instead of choosing one
  -m fragment use the XSL fragment to customize the stylesheet
  -o directoryput output in the specified directory instead of
  the current working directory


It only works if you swap 'FORMAT [OPTIONS]' to '[OPTIONS] FORMAT'
which is what I found in the patch included in the source package.




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Re: Win2k and cygwin memory leak

2003-08-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:32:42AM -0400, Rolf Campbell wrote:
This may be a Win2000 problem, not a cygwin problem...What service pack 
are you running?

May be?  You run a bunch of programs, exit them, and Windows slowly loses
memory after each exit?

Hard to see how that's a cygwin problem.

cgf

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RE: Unable to bring up netscape as any other user

2003-08-07 Thread Menon, Girish (MED, WIPRO-GE MED)
Never mind the question about setting the registry for Allowing service
to interact with desktop... I found that a dword of 110 will do for the
inetd registry entry.

But I still had one question though. From the bash shell the ` (back
ticks) work. But when I spawn a process and execute a shell script which
contains the back ticks, the process just chokes. 

For example, a simple shell script like 
#!/bin/sh
..
..
myenv=`env | grep CYGWIN`
..
..


I am able to execute this script properly from the bash shell (as any
user on the system). But this same script when executed via a spawned
process does not work. Looks like something is broken in my background
processing.

Any help?

Girish


-Original Message-
From: Menon, Girish (MED, WIPRO-GE MED) 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:01 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Unable to bring up netscape as any other user


Also, rather than going via command line, is there any other way I can
do the same setting (i.e. going via services and modifying the
properties of inetd)? Any arguments to cygrunsrv or inetd or modifying
the registry...


-Original Message-
From: Menon, Girish (MED, WIPRO-GE MED) 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:06 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Unable to bring up netscape as any other user


Great. It worked.

Now I have a slightly differnt issue. If I try to bring up netscape
manually from the bash window, it comes up. But if I try to bring it up
as a background process, it does not work. In my code, I tried to spawn
a new netscape process, but that failed. When I modified my code to
instead call netscape directly, it comes up.

Here's a snippet of my code:


sprintf(shellExec, %s/bin/sh.exe, getenv(SYSTEMDRIVE));
// spawn new service browser
_flushall();
_spawnlp(_P_DETACH, shellExec, shellExec, netscape.exe, NULL);




-Original Message-
From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:01 PM
To: Menon, Girish (MED, WIPRO-GE MED)
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Unable to bring up netscape as any other user


On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Menon, Girish (MED, WIPRO-GE MED) wrote:

 Up until recently, I was using an older version of cygwin (1.3.10).
With
 the advent of the security patch for telnet, inetutils 1.3.23, I
decided
 to upgrade my cygwin version to the latest (1.3.22) with the inetutils
 1.3.23.

 Ever since, I have been having some problems. I installed cygwin as
 Administrator. If I become some other user and try to bring up
netscape
 (which was also installed as Administrator), netscape does not come
up.

 If I do a ps, I see the netscape task is running, but I am not able to
 see the browser.

 I am attaching the cygcheck output. Any suggestions on where I am
going
 wrong.

The netscape process would come up as a child process of the inetd
service.  Therefore, the service should have interaction with desktop
enabled for you to see the netscape window.  I've added an option for
that
to cygrunsrv, but inetd might not have one, so you'll have to go into
the
services panel and edit the properties of the inetd service to enable
that.  Just check the Allow service to interact with desktop checkbox.
Hope this helps,
Igor
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Re: GNU Emacs build: NTEmacs vs cygwinized

2003-08-07 Thread Joe Buehler
FRC wrote:

xterm.c:4488: `XtNbeNiceToColormap' undeclared (first use in this function)
Got it -- don't compile with Xaw3d.
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RE: Has ANYONE got telnet via xinetd working on 2000 *SERVER*??( or 2003)

2003-08-07 Thread Brian . Kelly

BOY - WAS THAT PAINFUL.  I did *finally* get it all working - but
it sure seems like there's
got to be an easier way.

Some lessons learned:

1.If you were set up for inetd *before* you attempt to use xinetd, be
sure to set the CYGWIN environment
  variable.

  CYGWIN='binmode tty ntsec'

  I had the registry modified instead for inetd and it didn't occur to
me till after about 12
  hours of trying everything else that this could be the culprit.

2.I found that copying the sshd to xinetd was not necessary. The
default one that is put down with the
  xinetd install seems to work just fine.

3.Be sure to run iu-config  in addition to everything else to
set up the /etc environment if cygwin is
  truly a fresh install.

4.Make sure that   /var/log   is universally writable. If the xinetd
service doesn't start when doing

  net start init

  then stop init service, remove /var/log/servicelog and make sure
/var/log
  directory is writeable for all. Start init service.   (Thanks to
Sergey Okhapkin).


   Telnet/Ftp via  Xinetd   INSTALL - SETUP
Instructions  ###

1.Do a clean install (or REINSTALL)  of inetutils, xinetd, sysvinit,
chkconfig, and initscripts

  Note: inetd will NOT be running as a service, but the xinetd does need
inetutils installed.
Beyond simply putting the pieces on your harddisk via setup.exe,
DO NOT
follow any of the instructions regarding *inetd*.

2.Make sure your CYGWIN enviroment variable is set:

  CYGWIN='binmode tty ntsec'

3.run   /bin/iu-configto set up the /etc folder.

4.run   /usr/bin/init-config,   NOT overwriting any config files, just
install init as a service

5.cd /etc/rc.d/init.d then  /usr/sbin/chkconfig  --add xinetd

6.net stop init   then  net start init

7.telnet localhost


THANKS VINCE!!

#

 had time to try this today, works fine.
 steps were,
 1) clean install included inetutils, xinetd, sysvinit ,chkconfig and
 initscripts (and vim but whatever editor you like ;)
 2) run /usr/bin/init-config, NOT overwriting any config files, just to
 install init as a service.
 3) copy /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd to /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd and
 edit to make
 appropriate to xinetd (available on request)

 4) cd /etc/rc.d/init.d  then /usr/sbin/chkconfig --add xinetd

 5) net stop init net then net start init

 6)
 $ telnet localhost
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to GENBRIDEVINT1.uk.circle.com.
 Escape character is '^]'.

 CYGWIN_NT-5.0 1.3.22(0.78/3/2) (GENBRIDEVINT1) (tty0)

 login: administrator
 Password:
 Fanfare!!!
 You are successfully logged in to this server!!!








Vince Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]@cygwin.com on 08/06/2003
11:32:29 AM

Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


To:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vince
   Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject:RE: Has ANYONE got telnet via xinetd working on 2000 *SERVER*??
   ( or 2003)





 WOW! Thanks dude! You're my hero! YES - I would *GREATLY* appreciate:

   edit to make appropriate to xinetd  (available on request)

 So I am hereby *requesting* it  :-)

as requested (find attached)
its probably not a tidy as could be as i just ripped out the ssh specific
bits,
did
%s/sshd/xinetd/g
%s/SSHD/XINETD/g
so remembering i did actualy have access to a redhat box using linux
box
using xinetd, find attached also, xinet.rh which is the redhat one with
linux specific stuff cut out (checking for root user etc.) havent tested
that one but it should work.

hope this is enough to get yours working.

On a side note, i originaly tried to use just xinetd as a service but
realised there is no option to stop it forking to background so while it
worked, you couldnt stop it without killing it from a command line/task
manager :(.

 It still *seems* like I did everything here (and more than
 once I might
 add) - and that
 I *should* have got it working. Of course I will start fresh
 and follow
 your instructions
 *to the letter* and then backstep to see why I wasn't able to get it
 working on my own.

 The one thing of course that I would never have thought to do
 would be to
 copy
 and modify sshd to xinetd. Not exactly *intuitive*! I'll be
 anxious to see
 if this was
 indeed the one indispensible thing I needed to do.

 Again - appreciate all the assistance. I need xinetd to
 maximize security
 until we can
 get secure shell working from the mainframe (don't hold your breath!).

 Ah well, some folks just like liv'in in the past!

 Brian Kelly






 Vince Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/06/2003
 08:41:38 AM

 To:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:

 Subject:RE: Has ANYONE got telnet via xinetd working on
 2000 *SERVER*??
( or 2003)


 had time to try this today, works fine.
 steps were,
 1) 

Re: Win2k and cygwin memory leak

2003-08-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:44:08PM -0400, Rolf Campbell wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
As described, the memory leak is obviously not in cygwin.  It is in
windows.  I was adding some clarification to the issue by changing a
may be to a definitely is.

I think that this kind of clarification is more useful than your
message, which essentially says If we could figure out what was causing
the problem then maybe it could be fixed.  Personally, I don't see how
that observation is useful.

Having had some experience with this, I find it highly doubtful that any
useful data will come from people posting their me too experiences.
If someone wants to fix this then researching the Microsoft Knowledge
Base might be a place to start.  A google search might also be helpful.

Could it be *possible* that cygwin leaves some memory allocated?  Does 
windows claim to free all memory allocated by a process when it exits? 

Even Windows 95 should be enough of an operating system that it should
free memory on exit.  If that was not the case, I could easily write a
program that would bring the system to its knees.  Of course that is
easy to do with Windows 9x in any event but I haven't heard about this
particular problem there.

What about cygwin shared memory?

I suppose it is possible that cygwin could be allocating shared memory.
That would disappear when the last process which had a pointer to it
went away.  I haven't heard that it has been the case that memory
reappears when all cygwin processes disappear.

cgf

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Weak attribute unsupported?

2003-08-07 Thread Tom Johnson
Hello,
  I am trying to compile an internal test suite built originally in Linux.
Under cygwin, I get multiple definition errors for functions that have the
weak attribute and are overridden elsewhere.  Is this generally
unsupported on Windows?  I've tried searching the archives and haven't found
a clear-cut answer.

Thanks!
-Tom Johnson



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Re: give args to setup in command line or ini file

2003-08-07 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Delarue David wrote:

 Hello
 I would like to know if it's possible to give args to the setup in a
 command line or directly in the setup.ini .
 What i want to do is :
 - launch the setup with 'install from local directory' check by default
 in the 'choose a download source' screen.
 - in the 'select packages' screen i want to check the reinstall mode by
 default

 Thanks.

While setup has some command-line arguments, I'm not sure if there are any
that do exactly what you asked about.  For more information, look in the
code of setup (search for Option) or Google for setup command line
arguments site:cygwin.com inurl:ml inurl:cygwin-apps (but be aware that
some of these messages might be out of date).
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RE: Has ANYONE got telnet via xinetd working on 2000 *SERVER*?? ( or 2003)

2003-08-07 Thread Vince Hoffman

 
 
 WOW! Thanks dude! You're my hero! YES - I would *GREATLY* appreciate:
 
   edit to make appropriate to xinetd  (available on request)
 
 So I am hereby *requesting* it  :-)
 
as requested (find attached)
its probably not a tidy as could be as i just ripped out the ssh specific
bits,
did 
%s/sshd/xinetd/g
%s/SSHD/XINETD/g
so remembering i did actualy have access to a redhat box using linux box
using xinetd, find attached also, xinet.rh which is the redhat one with
linux specific stuff cut out (checking for root user etc.) havent tested
that one but it should work.

hope this is enough to get yours working.

On a side note, i originaly tried to use just xinetd as a service but
realised there is no option to stop it forking to background so while it
worked, you couldnt stop it without killing it from a command line/task
manager :(.

 It still *seems* like I did everything here (and more than 
 once I might
 add) - and that
 I *should* have got it working. Of course I will start fresh 
 and follow
 your instructions
 *to the letter* and then backstep to see why I wasn't able to get it
 working on my own.
 
 The one thing of course that I would never have thought to do 
 would be to
 copy
 and modify sshd to xinetd. Not exactly *intuitive*! I'll be 
 anxious to see
 if this was
 indeed the one indispensible thing I needed to do.
 
 Again - appreciate all the assistance. I need xinetd to 
 maximize security
 until we can
 get secure shell working from the mainframe (don't hold your breath!).
 
 Ah well, some folks just like liv'in in the past!
 
 Brian Kelly
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Vince Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/06/2003 
 08:41:38 AM
 
 To:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:
 
 Subject:RE: Has ANYONE got telnet via xinetd working on 
 2000 *SERVER*??
( or 2003)
 
 
 had time to try this today, works fine.
 steps were,
 1) clean install included inetutils, xinetd, sysvinit ,chkconfig and
 initscripts (and vim but whatever editor you like ;)
 2) run /usr/bin/init-config, NOT overwriting any config files, just to
 install init as a service.
 3) copy /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd to /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd and 
 edit to make
 appropriate to xinetd (available on request)
 
 4) cd /etc/rc.d/init.d  then /usr/sbin/chkconfig --add xinetd
 
 5) net stop init net then net start init
 
 6)
 $ telnet localhost
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to GENBRIDEVINT1.uk.circle.com.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 
 CYGWIN_NT-5.0 1.3.22(0.78/3/2) (GENBRIDEVINT1) (tty0)
 
 login: administrator
 Password:
 Fanfare!!!
 You are successfully logged in to this server!!!
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
 $ ps -e
   PIDPPIDPGID WINPID  TTY  UIDSTIME COMMAND
  1684   11684   1684  con  500 13:25:25 /usr/bin/bash
  2076   12076   2076?   18 13:33:22 
 /usr/bin/cygrunsrv
  199220761992   2016?   18 13:33:22 /sbin/init
  1756   11756   1756?   18 13:33:23 
 /usr/sbin/xinetd
  195216841952508  con  500 13:39:57 
 /usr/bin/telnet
  182417561824   1016?   18 13:39:58
  /usr/sbin/in.telnetd
  180418241804   15600  500 13:40:11 /usr/bin/bash
  227618042276   22880  500 13:40:49 /usr/bin/ps
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
 $
 
 
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 06 August 2003 01:28
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Has ANYONE got telnet via xinetd working on 2000
  *SERVER*?? (or
  2003)
 
 
  I've got invested about seven to eight total hours trying to get it
  working, plowing past
  one issue after another. I finally get a login prompt, but I can't
  authenticate with ANY ID,
  local or domain. Inetd on the other hand, works perfectly. I
  read folks had
  trouble getting
  similiar stuff working on 2003 Server. Could it be that 2000
  server and
  2003 server really
  aren't all that different??
 
  Anyway, before I saddle you guys with stuff, I thought I'd
  first ask if
  *anyone* is using
  it successfully on 2000 *Server*.
 
  Brian Kelly
 
 
 
 
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Re: Controversial what if.... we disable ntsec by default again?

2003-08-07 Thread Max Bowsher
Mark Priest wrote:
 Max,

 What problems is ntsec causing?  I am a relatively new user and I have not
 had any problems with it.  In fact it is allowing me to host a more secure
 ssh server installation.  I have been following the list for a couple of
 months and I have not seen many problems relating to ntsec.  Most of those
 that I have seen regarding ntsec seem to stem from configuration errors by
 users rather than from anything inherent in ntsec.  It is hard to comment
 on this without knowing what the specific issues are.

[Finally replying - been busy recently]

Essentially, ntsec requires an understanding of the interaction between
Cygwin and NT ACLs that first time users will not necessarily have. If you
have that understanding, and are willing to spend the time to get things
working as you want them - great!. But for an average single-user machine,
ntsec can be a hinderance.

Max.


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Re: What is the minimum needed to run gtar?

2003-08-07 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 01:27:11PM -0400, Larry Hall wrote:
 Oh, OK.  I didn't know that this was a restatement of that problem
 (http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-07/msg00932.html).  Did you try
 running tar on the affected systems with strace?  Perhaps a comparison
 of the output from a machine where it's failing and the same from one
 that doesn't would provide some insight.
 
 
 Biederman, Steve wrote:
 
 For a good, concise example and test case, go back to the problem I posted 
 on 7/16, titled tar 1.13.25 runs forever and produces nothing on this 
 test case.
 
 That behavior is seen on a bare Windows machine with no Cygwin installed
 but for tar 1.13.25 and cygwin1.dll.  
 
 When I installed a Cygwin build environment in order to debug the problem,
 the problem disappeared.  But its easily reproduced on a bare Windows 
 machine.
 
 
 Biederman, Steve wrote:
 
 
 I want to allow the users I support to be able to run Cygwin tar on their 
 Windows machines.
 These machines have not had any Cygwin installed; they're just bare 
 Windows machines.
 
 I provided them tar.exe and cygwin1.dll and assumed that with these, they 
 could run
 Cygwin tar sucessfully.  It appears that that isn't the case: machines 
 without Cygwin installed see different behavior than machines which have 
 it installed.  (Running tar
 on machines without Cygwin installed creates incorrect tar archives.)
 
 What is the minimum I need to provide to a non-Cygwin Windows machine to 
 get
 Cygwin tar to run reliably?

This may not be apropos today ...

Several years ago I was trying something similar, get a minimum,
standalone amanda distribution.  The distributed gtar was not yet
1.13.25 so I compiled my own.  It needed another cygwin provided
dll besides cygwin1.dll.  Sorry I don't recall which one, nor do
I know if that requirement still exists.

jl
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