date:20031012

Jay,

Your problem is that you are using Windows 95, which does not natively
support unicode text. There is support in Cygwin/XFree86 for converting
characters to unicode and back, but it only works on NT-based platforms
(NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003).

The Microsoft Layer for Unicode on Windows 95/98/Me Systems should allow
the support to work properly, but we would have to change the unicode
support detection slightly for this to take effect. Have you installed
the unicode support for Windows 95? More information and a link to
download are here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/devnotes/winprog/microsoft_layer_for_unicode_on_windows_95_98_me_systems.asp

Or, the tiny url to the same thing:

http://tinyurl.com/qo9n

Hmm... just did some more checking... using the Layer for Unicode
support will not be trivial. Kensuke may be interested in it as an
alternative to using libiconv on Windows 95/98/Me.

As for why you text copying is truncated vs. not appearing at all, I
suspect that Mozilla 1.2.x to 1.4 changed the format of some clipboard
data from plain text to INCR. But that would only make sense if you
have only tried this with the versions of XFree86-xserv that don't crash
when they see an INCR clipboard format. If you didn't try this until
recently, then that would explain your problem. You should at least be
thankful that XWin.exe doesn't core dump like it used to in these cases.

In summary, your problem is known, it isn't trivial to solve, and the
change from Mozilla 1.2.x to 1.4 is due to a change that they made, not
something that we did. Also, your issue is already known to be not an
issue on NT-based platforms, so the Microsoft answer to this problem
would be The Cygwin/XFree86 has identified this to be a problem with
the products listed above., with the idea being that they might fix it
or they might not, but perhaps you should consider upgrading to a more
recent version of Windows. In other words, you are more likely to get
your problem fixed by spending $200 of your own money upgrading to
Windows XP, versus me spending $2000 of my time to cobble together a fix
for Windows 95/98/Me. That's just being honest.

Thanks for testing,

Harold

Jay Smith wrote:
Hi,

My copy/paste behavior in MOZILLA running on RedHat 8 LINUX has gone
from bad to worse when I upgraded the Mozilla from 1.2.x to 1.4.

Important: The Mozilla is LINUX Mozilla running on an RH8 server. I am
sitting at a Windows 95 PC, using Cygwin/XFree86 to run an X session on
the PC. I am sitting at a PC, not at a Linux box. (Most people don't
get this and thus reply using wrong assumptions.)

WHEN RUNNING Linux Mozilla ON PC USING CYGWIN:

(old) MOZ 1.2.x: When I copied text that contained a non-ascii typical
European or Scandinavian character from an existing email and PASTED
INTO A MOZILLA MAIL COMPOSE window, the text up to, but NOT including,
the character would copy AND PASTE. That was bad, but at least you got
something (the text before the character).

(new) MOZ 1.4: However, now, if the copy contains such a character,
NOTHING gets pasted into A MOZILLA MAIL COMPOSE window. It changed from
partial to nothing.

I AM still able to paste full and properly into windows applications
from Mozilla, including such common European and Scandinvian characters.

Because there has been no change to the Cygwin installation on this PC, I
don't think the *change* in the problem is related to that. However,
the root of the problem seems to be related to Cygwin.

By contrast, IF I AM WORKING DIRECTLY/PHYSICALLY ON THE LINUX SERVER:

Mozilla 1.2.x or 1.4: I *CAN* fully and properly cut/paste the very same
text.

MY ENVIRONMENT IS:

Server: Red Hat Linux 8

Workstation: Windows 95 running Cygwin
(I think these are the version numbers of what I have installed; they
were as of April 2003 and I don't think I have installed any new Cygwin
stuff on this machine since then -- but I don't know how to find out
what versions I am running. How do I?)
XFree86-base 4.2.0-1
-lib 4.2.0-5
-xserv4.2.0-28
-xwinclip 4.2.0-8

Jay

[PATCH] Copy/Paste non-ascii characters

2003-10-12 Thread Kensuke Matsuzaki

Jay,

Perhaps this patch enable XWin to copy/paste non-ascii characters
even if Windows does't support Unicode (95/98/Me).
LANG environment variable and Windows locale must be same.
I added -nounicodeclipboard option, I tested using this on XP.
But I don't have 95/98/Me.

And it seems tha libX11 has some CTEXT convertion bug, I attach
patch that based on TAKABE's work.
http://www.ff.iij4u.or.jp/~t-takabe/xf410_xim_fix.diff

By the way, nls/locale.alias has alias somethig like
Arabic_Egypt.1256. Can we use that?
If so, we no longer need LANG environment variable.
We can get it following code.

  char pszCountry[128];
  char pszLanguage[128];
  int nAcp = GetACP ();
  
  GetLocaleInfo (LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT, LOCALE_SENGCOUNTRY, pszCountry, 128);
  GetLocaleInfo (LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT, LOCALE_SENGLANGUAGE, pszLanguage, 128);

  printf (%s_%s.%d\n, pszLanguage, pszCountry, nAcp);

Kensuke Matsuzaki


clipboard_mb.diff
Description: Binary data


X11.diff
Description: Binary data

Re: Copy/Paste problems when contains non-ascii characters

2003-10-12 Thread Jay Smith

Hi Harold,

Thanks for your input. Either I don't understand all of what you are
saying or you don't understand the problem -- though Windows 95 is always a
problem. :-)

I *can* copy/paste from Linux Mozilla 1.4 to Windows 95. That is okay.

What I *can't* do is copy/paste within Linux Mozilla 1.4 (running in X,
when the copy contains European characters)

When I was using Linux Mozilla 1.2, the paste truncated immediately before
the European character. Now, under Linux Mozilla 1.4, the paste is null
(nothing pastes).

I was doing this all the time under Linux Mozilla 1.2 (since about February
2003) without any problem (other than the darn truncation). No crashes or
other problems of that nature.

Regarding getting off Windows 95 you are quite right, however, the
economics are not as you assume. What it really means is a) also replacing
all the workstations (these are Pentium 200 or 300 machines); b) switching
to Linux *IF* Linux could get its productivity apps up to a productive
level (I don't mind twiddling around with them, but I certainly can't have
my staff -- who are lucky to find the on button) dealing the the Linux
problems I have to deal with every day; c) finding, replacing, configuring,
and learning software for the roughly 30 (thirty) apps we run. Even if we
stayed with Windows (going to 2000 Professional probably), just replacing
the apps would cost $3000+ per seat and the machines around $1500 per seat.
In a small company like mine, a conversion like this could put us out of
business if we are not careful. A week out of business is close to our
annual profit. Thus we hang on until we really have to make the switch.
Hopefully Linux will get there (but the bugs I have encountered in only 2
days of use of Mozilla 1.4 make me wonder.)

Jay

Harold L Hunt II said the following on 10/12/2003 07:24 PM:
Jay,

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/devnotes/winprog/microsoft_layer_for_unicode_on_windows_95_98_me_systems.asp

Or, the tiny url to the same thing:

http://tinyurl.com/qo9n

Hmm... just did some more checking... using the Layer for Unicode
support will not be trivial. Kensuke may be interested in it as an
alternative to using libiconv on Windows 95/98/Me.

Thanks for testing,

Harold

Jay Smith wrote:

Hi,

My copy/paste behavior in MOZILLA running on RedHat 8 LINUX has gone
from bad to worse when I upgraded the Mozilla from 1.2.x to 1.4.

Important: The Mozilla is LINUX Mozilla running on an RH8 server. I
am sitting at a Windows 95 PC, using Cygwin/XFree86 to run an X
session on the PC. I am sitting at a PC, not at a Linux box. (Most
people don't get this and thus reply using wrong assumptions.)

WHEN RUNNING Linux Mozilla ON PC USING CYGWIN:

(new) MOZ 1.4: However, now, if

Re: [PATCH] Copy/Paste non-ascii characters

2003-10-12 Thread Jay Smith

Dear Kensuke,

Thank you very much for your effort on this.

Unfortunately, I am pretty ignorant of these matters, thus you will have to 
tell me what it is that I should do with the two .diff files you attached. 
I will be happy to do whatever with them, but I am clueless as to what is 
to be done with them.

Sorry to be a pain.

Jay

Kensuke Matsuzaki said the following on 10/12/2003 09:33 PM:
Jay,

Perhaps this patch enable XWin to copy/paste non-ascii characters
even if Windows does't support Unicode (95/98/Me).
LANG environment variable and Windows locale must be same.
I added -nounicodeclipboard option, I tested using this on XP.
But I don't have 95/98/Me.
And it seems tha libX11 has some CTEXT convertion bug, I attach
patch that based on TAKABE's work.
http://www.ff.iij4u.or.jp/~t-takabe/xf410_xim_fix.diff
By the way, nls/locale.alias has alias somethig like
Arabic_Egypt.1256. Can we use that?
If so, we no longer need LANG environment variable.
We can get it following code.
  char pszCountry[128];
  char pszLanguage[128];
  int nAcp = GetACP ();
  
  GetLocaleInfo (LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT, LOCALE_SENGCOUNTRY, pszCountry, 128);
  GetLocaleInfo (LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT, LOCALE_SENGLANGUAGE, pszLanguage, 128);

  printf (%s_%s.%d\n, pszLanguage, pszCountry, nAcp);

Kensuke Matsuzaki
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Re: [PATCH] Copy/Paste non-ascii characters

Jay,

I think he probably sent the patches for me to make a release with.  You 
shouldn't have to do anything with them yourself.

Harold

Jay Smith wrote:
Dear Kensuke,

Thank you very much for your effort on this.

Unfortunately, I am pretty ignorant of these matters, thus you will have 
to tell me what it is that I should do with the two .diff files you 
attached. I will be happy to do whatever with them, but I am clueless as 
to what is to be done with them.

Sorry to be a pain.

Jay

Kensuke Matsuzaki said the following on 10/12/2003 09:33 PM:

Jay,

Perhaps this patch enable XWin to copy/paste non-ascii characters
even if Windows does't support Unicode (95/98/Me).
LANG environment variable and Windows locale must be same.
I added -nounicodeclipboard option, I tested using this on XP.
But I don't have 95/98/Me.
And it seems tha libX11 has some CTEXT convertion bug, I attach
patch that based on TAKABE's work.
http://www.ff.iij4u.or.jp/~t-takabe/xf410_xim_fix.diff
By the way, nls/locale.alias has alias somethig like
Arabic_Egypt.1256. Can we use that?
If so, we no longer need LANG environment variable.
We can get it following code.
  char pszCountry[128];
  char pszLanguage[128];
  int nAcp = GetACP ();
GetLocaleInfo (LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT, LOCALE_SENGCOUNTRY, 
pszCountry, 128);
  GetLocaleInfo (LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT, LOCALE_SENGLANGUAGE, 
pszLanguage, 128);

  printf (%s_%s.%d\n, pszLanguage, pszCountry, nAcp);

Kensuke Matsuzaki

Re: [PATCH] Copy/Paste non-ascii characters

Kensuke,

Do you think the following change that you made might stop a potential 
memory leak?

   /* */
   if (nNum  ppList  *ppList)
{
- XFree (xtpName.value);
  *ppName = strdup (*ppList);
  XFreeStringList (ppList);
}
+  XFree (xtpName.value);
Harold

Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote:

Jay,

Perhaps this patch enable XWin to copy/paste non-ascii characters
even if Windows does't support Unicode (95/98/Me).
LANG environment variable and Windows locale must be same.
I added -nounicodeclipboard option, I tested using this on XP.
But I don't have 95/98/Me.
And it seems tha libX11 has some CTEXT convertion bug, I attach
patch that based on TAKABE's work.
http://www.ff.iij4u.or.jp/~t-takabe/xf410_xim_fix.diff
By the way, nls/locale.alias has alias somethig like
Arabic_Egypt.1256. Can we use that?
If so, we no longer need LANG environment variable.
We can get it following code.
  char pszCountry[128];
  char pszLanguage[128];
  int nAcp = GetACP ();
  
  GetLocaleInfo (LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT, LOCALE_SENGCOUNTRY, pszCountry, 128);
  GetLocaleInfo (LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT, LOCALE_SENGLANGUAGE, pszLanguage, 128);

  printf (%s_%s.%d\n, pszLanguage, pszCountry, nAcp);

Kensuke Matsuzaki

Using nls/locale.alias [ago please comment]

Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote:
By the way, nls/locale.alias has alias somethig like
Arabic_Egypt.1256. Can we use that?
If so, we no longer need LANG environment variable.
I didn't know that we currently needed the LANG environment variable.  I 
don't really know enough about this stuff to contribute a useful 
suggestion here.  I think I will do whatever you and Alexander think 
will work.  Of course, I am always willing to try something out and 
change it back if it fails for too many people.

Harold

We can get it following code.

  char pszCountry[128];
  char pszLanguage[128];
  int nAcp = GetACP ();
  
  GetLocaleInfo (LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT, LOCALE_SENGCOUNTRY, pszCountry, 128);
  GetLocaleInfo (LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT, LOCALE_SENGLANGUAGE, pszLanguage, 128);

  printf (%s_%s.%d\n, pszLanguage, pszCountry, nAcp);

Kensuke Matsuzaki

Re: [PATCH] Copy/Paste non-ascii characters

Jay,

I just posted XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-20 as a 'test' package; it should be 
showing up on mirrors within a few hours.  When it does, run setup.exe 
and manually select version '4.3.0-20' for the XFree86-xserv package. 
Then, run the new server version as usual (do not use the new flag that 
Kensuke talked about) and report your results to the mailing list.

Harold

Jay Smith wrote:

Dear Kensuke,

Thank you very much for your effort on this.

Unfortunately, I am pretty ignorant of these matters, thus you will have 
to tell me what it is that I should do with the two .diff files you 
attached. I will be happy to do whatever with them, but I am clueless as 
to what is to be done with them.

Sorry to be a pain.

Jay

Kensuke Matsuzaki said the following on 10/12/2003 09:33 PM:

Jay,

Perhaps this patch enable XWin to copy/paste non-ascii characters
even if Windows does't support Unicode (95/98/Me).
LANG environment variable and Windows locale must be same.
I added -nounicodeclipboard option, I tested using this on XP.
But I don't have 95/98/Me.
And it seems tha libX11 has some CTEXT convertion bug, I attach
patch that based on TAKABE's work.
http://www.ff.iij4u.or.jp/~t-takabe/xf410_xim_fix.diff
By the way, nls/locale.alias has alias somethig like
Arabic_Egypt.1256. Can we use that?
If so, we no longer need LANG environment variable.
We can get it following code.
  char pszCountry[128];
  char pszLanguage[128];
  int nAcp = GetACP ();
GetLocaleInfo (LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT, LOCALE_SENGCOUNTRY, 
pszCountry, 128);
  GetLocaleInfo (LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT, LOCALE_SENGLANGUAGE, 
pszLanguage, 128);

  printf (%s_%s.%d\n, pszLanguage, pszCountry, nAcp);

Kensuke Matsuzaki

CTEXT conversion patch

Kensuke,



Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote:
And it seems tha libX11 has some CTEXT convertion bug, I attach
patch that based on TAKABE's work.
http://www.ff.iij4u.or.jp/~t-takabe/xf410_xim_fix.diff
Could you send me more information on this?  Please describe what the 
current problem is.  Please send any links to a message or post that 
describes what the patch does.  Do you have Takabe's email address as well?

If you can send me those things then I can make sure that this patch 
makes it into XFree86, as long as it is a valid patch.  Right now, I 
don't know how to describe what it does.  :)

Harold

Re: Using nls/locale.alias [ago please comment]

2003-10-12 Thread Kensuke Matsuzaki

Harold,

  By the way, nls/locale.alias has alias somethig like
  Arabic_Egypt.1256. Can we use that?
  If so, we no longer need LANG environment variable.
 
 I didn't know that we currently needed the LANG environment variable.  I 
 don't really know enough about this stuff to contribute a useful 
 suggestion here.  I think I will do whatever you and Alexander think 
 will work.  Of course, I am always willing to try something out and 
 change it back if it fails for too many people.

We must know CF_TEXT text encoding to convert it to CTEXT/UTF-8.

XmbTextListToTextProperty requires input text to be encoded by
current locale encoding. XmbTextPropertyToTextList's output text is
encoded using current locale encoding.
setlocale set those data, and it look at LC_CTYPE or LANG if second
parameter of setlocale is .

Xutf8* use UTF-8 encoding so they work without LANG/LC_CTYPE.

Kensuke Matsuzaki

Re: CTEXT conversion patch

2003-10-12 Thread Kensuke Matsuzaki

Harold,

It was posted in discussion board.
http://matsu-www.is.titech.ac.jp/~sohda/cygwin/treebbs/treebbs.cgi?kako=1all=10s=10
He said that 
This fix following two problem.
1. X freeze when we have 2 byte string after 1 byte string using
  ASTEX-X's XIM.
2. We can't use XIM on Cygwin/XFree86 4.1.0 etc.

Second problem is fixed
http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/X11/lcSjis.c.diff?r1=3.9r2=3.10
and
http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/lib/X11/lcEuc.c.diff?r1=3.11r2=3.12
that Allow UTF8 conversion to work for Japanese locales (#A.1527, Etsushi Kato).

So I delete code that related 2nd problem.

I write about 1st problem.
CTEXT has GL and GR two graphic character sets.
But CTEXT to multi-byte string/wide string converter in lcSjis.c
and lcEuc.c have only signle set. So text use GR convertion fail.
Those fix patch was wrote by TAKABE.

I added following code.
if (charset == ct_state.GR_charset) {
clen = charset-length;
do {
(*(Uchar *)(ctptr-clen)) = BIT8ON(*(Uchar *)(ctptr-clen));
} while (--clen); 
}
Because multi-byte text to CTEXT converter in lcSjis.c doesn't
set 8-bit on even if it is in GR.

I don't know his mail address.

At Sun, 12 Oct 2003 23:05:57 -0400,
Harold L Hunt II wrote:
 
 Kensuke,
 
 
 
 Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote:
  And it seems tha libX11 has some CTEXT convertion bug, I attach
  patch that based on TAKABE's work.
  http://www.ff.iij4u.or.jp/~t-takabe/xf410_xim_fix.diff
 
 Could you send me more information on this?  Please describe what the 
 current problem is.  Please send any links to a message or post that 
 describes what the patch does.  Do you have Takabe's email address as well?
 
 If you can send me those things then I can make sure that this patch 
 makes it into XFree86, as long as it is a valid patch.  Right now, I 
 don't know how to describe what it does.  :)
 
 Harold

Kensuke Matsuzaki

Re: [Patch]: winsup/w32api/include

2003-10-12 Thread Danny Smith

 
 2003-10-11  Pierre Humblet  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   * include/winnt.h (SM_REMOTESESSION): Add define.
   * include/winuser.h (SE_CREATE_GLOBAL_NAME): Ditto.
 

Thanks.
I've checked into winsup CVS.
Danny

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Re: merging mingw and cygwin

2003-10-12 Thread Daniel Reed

On 2003-10-11T22:19-0700, Edward Peschko wrote:
) And all of these are done separately, so of course no integration testing is done to
) make sure that these work together well..

If you would like to coordinate such an audit/review of overall
interoperability, I do not believe anyone would begrudge you whatever access
or information you need.


) make sure that individual porting efforts work together. In any case,people seldom
) release the patches that they made in order *to* port the given project, or if they
) do, they get lost.  And as said the executables that result seldom work with
) executables created by someone else. And they use inconsistant tools (compilers, etc)
) to *create* these tools and libraries, so any integration with third party APIs 
becomes
) exceedingly ugly.

If you have a specific example in mind of such an interoperability problem,
please point it out. It is not exceptional to ask you to donate your time
for such a task; Cygwin is maintained exclusively by volunteers, so any
suggestion you make is in effect a request for someone else to donate their
time.

As to the question about Cygwin-specific patches, those are distributed
within an app's source package (typically available alongside the binary
package in the same location).


)  The way this works is someone volunteers to be the Cygwin maintainer for
)  a package they'd like to see in the Cygwin distribution.  Cygwin is
)  an open-source, volunteer-driven project rather than the more typical
)  customer-driven commercial products you may be used to.  If you want
)  something done, the quickest way to make it happen is to contribute it.
) yes, I am aware of open source. yes, I was giving a suggestion. No, I don't know
) how to 'contribute it' except to note that it is there for someone who handles 
central
) distributions to go pick up the tar ball and run with it. It should be as simple as
)
) ./configure
) make
) make install
)
) underneath a cygwin shell. Someone who has access to the maintenance of setup.exe
) could probably make the prerequisite changes faster than I could.

The procedure is documented more formally at http://cygwin.com/setup.html .
You do not need to worry about posting to sources.redhat.com, that will be
handled by someone like myself once the package has been proposed, reviewed,
and accepted.

Basically, to create a binary package, instead of make install you might:
  make install DESTDIR=/tmp/temproot  cd /tmp/temproot  tar -jcf \
  ~/public_html/package-version-1.tar.bz2 *
and announce on cygwin-apps that http://pge.com/~esp5/package-version-1.tar.bz2
is available for review.

There is some more process to create a suitable setup.hint and to handle
files in /etc, but other than that, it usually is just that simple. Most of
the time spent in maintaining a Cygwin package might be spent getting the
software to compile/operate properly in the first place; the packaging
itself is usually very trivial, and anyone on the cygwin-apps mailing list
should be able to help you while you are getting your C legs.

Thanks for your interest,
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Re: merging mingw and cygwin


On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 03:35:02PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
 
 For crying out loud.
 
 Edward, there are plenty of archives and resources that detail how to
 achieve your stated goals. Right now you are making suggestions from a
 quite apparent position of ignorance. I urge you to research before you
 suggest fixing something that isn't broken. All the cygwin packages come
 with source that will build. The GPL issues are clearly documented on
 the FSF website - there is a FAQ on the GPL and how it applies to
 binaries and source. And so forth.

No, I think I get it alright now.

You don't want to use the LGPL because you want to dual license the software
that is cygwin; to make users choose whether or not to:

a) fork over a licensing fee so they don't have to release *their* code.
b) fork over *their* source code.

In other words, the same business model as qt... Its not about the open source
status of cygwin's code, its about the open source status of the end users' source
code.

And the reason that you don't want to use mingw32 and/or merge it, is because 
that doesn't allow you to follow this business model.

Like I said, if I use -mno-cygwin, am I still forced under the GPL to either license
your code or release it? Or does it still link with some redhat library?

 As for needing two dev environments, you been instructed how to use
 cygwin to compile to both, so I must conclude you are not actually
 trying to comprehend the emails, just arguing for the sake of it.

That is exactly my point. if cygwin can do both, and cygwin can create 
either native win32 executables or unix executables, then WHY ARE THERE 
TWO PROJECTS?

I'm not looking for 'instruction' on anything. I'm looking to avoid wasted
effort. If cygwin could natively make mingw32 code (cygwin - mingw32) there 
would be no need for mingw32 and there would be an extra 30 developers
on cygwin. You agree with that, right?

And anyhow, cross compilation is a major pain in the ##%. I'd rather avoid
unless absolutely necessary.

Ed

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Re: Pause after Calling ExitProcess

2003-10-12 Thread Milton Woods

 I have found that some external programs invoked from a shell take a 
 long time to return control to the shell on exit. For example, typing
 'hostnameenter' at the command prompt displays a response within about
 1 second, but the prompt does not appear for another 3 seconds (on a 
 1.6GHz P4).

The problem was caused by the Novell client (version 4.5). Upgrading to the
latest version (4.9) made Cygwin much more responsive.

Milton Woods.

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Cygwin setup stopped @99%

2003-10-12 Thread G. Oto

I followed the instructions on www.cygwin.com on how to install the current
(BCygwin, downloaded the setup.exe and ran it. The installation went well
(Buntil it remained only 1% to the end of the installation. The installation
(Bsuddenly stopped. I tried 3 times but to no avail. (Please refer to the
(Battached jpeg file for where the installtion stopped. Clicking the "cancel"
(Bbutton displayed "Installation Complete" message and nothing more). Can you
(Btell me what to do, please?
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Re: closing rxvt

2003-10-12 Thread Dylan Cuthbert

I noticed in the very latest version of cygwin that I no longer get this
problem though?

-
Q-Games, Dylan Cuthbert.
http://www.q-games.com


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  If you close an rxvt window by clicking on the Close [X] then the bash
  shell running under rxvt never gets notified and runs in the background.
  When you attempt to shutdown Windows you'll see a dialog box asking to
  kill that process. This is a known bug in rxvt (PTC).

 Well, many people have reported that bug, but always got the response,
 that it's more a not implemented feature than a bug.

 I don't think that it will get fixed soon.






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Re: setpriority() and PRIO_PROCESS under Cygwin

On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 05:07:18PM -0700, Terrence Brannon wrote:
 Can anyone suggest a solution for getting code making calls to 
 setpriority() and using PRIO_PROCESS to compile under Cygwin?

setpriority/getpriority are not implemented in Cygwin.

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Re: std::ofstream causes segfault in 1.5.x

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 10:34:36PM +0200, thomas wrote:
 Hi,
 
 here is a simplified snippet from code that worked perfectly in a 1.3.x
 environment, but doesn't work with 1.5.5 (i tried 1.5.2).
 
 **
  std::ofstream out(foo.toc);
  toc-print(out);  // - segfault here
 
  ...
  
  void Toc::print(std::ostream out) const
  {
out  CD_ROM;
  }
 **
 
 Strace shows the following:
 
20 7293891 [main] cdrdao 1576 fstat64: 0 = fstat (3, 0x22F9E4)
28 7293919 [main] cdrdao 1576 mmap64: addr 0, len 1065811968, prot 3, flags 22, 
 fd -1, off 0
   982 7294901 [main] cdrdao 1576 seterrno_from_win_error: 
 /netrel/src/cygwin-1.5.5-1/winsup/cygwin/mmap.cc:920 windows error 1455
85 7294986 [main] cdrdao 1576 geterrno_from_win_error: unknown windows error 
 1455, setting errno to 13
23 7295009 [main] cdrdao 1576 fhandler_disk_file::mmap: -1 = mmap(): 
 CreateFileMapping failed with Win32 error 1455

net helpmsg 1455

  The paging file is too small for this operation to complete.

Can you tell me why the process tries to mmap 1065811968 bytes == ~1Gig?
That won't work, nor would it under 1.3.22 on the same machine.  The cause
for this is outside of the strace and very likely outside of mmap itself.

Corinna

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Re: Cygwin setup stopped @99%

2003-10-12 Thread Pavel Tsekov


Hello,

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, G. Oto wrote:

 I followed the instructions on www.cygwin.com on how to install the current
 Cygwin, downloaded the setup.exe and ran it. The installation went well
 until it remained only 1% to the end of the installation. The installation
 suddenly stopped. I tried 3 times but to no avail. (Please refer to the
 attached jpeg file for where the installtion stopped. Clicking the cancel
 button displayed Installation Complete message and nothing more). Can you
 tell me what to do, please?

Did it hang during the download phase i.e. when you had only 1% more to
download ? If so - did you by chance use the archive.progeny.com mirror ?

Pavel

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Re: Cygwin setup stopped @99%

2003-10-12 Thread Barry Drake

This has been discussed numerous times on this list.

What I did was follow the directions of one of the
posts here to start a bash session by typing bash at a
dos prompt, doing a ps, and kill -9 of the process
that is tagged 'cygpath' or 'cygpth' (one of these).

Also, it has been recently recommended to run
setup.exe from a dos prompt or bash session, not from
Win.

Attached is the message with the instruction above. 
Hope this helps.

Barry Drake

--- G. Oto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 to install the current
 Cygwin, downloaded the setup.exe and ran it. The
 installation went well
 until it remained only 1% to the end of the
 installation. The installation
 suddenly stopped. I tried 3 times but to no avail.
 (Please refer to the
 attached jpeg file for where the installtion
 stopped. Clicking the cancel
 button displayed Installation Complete message and
 nothing more). Can you
 tell me what to do, please?
 My pc runs on Windows XP with 1024MB RAM and 120GB
 HDD.
 
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Hi all,

I've just installed cygwin on my new machine (WOO HOO Finally) - install
from local directory, package files were downloaded yesterday morning (UK),
install everything.  The post install scripts hung as above, but instead of
cancelling the install, I decided to see if I could just do enough to free
up the issue.

I went into the bin directory under the new installation, and ran bash.exe
with a double click.  No paths seemed to be set up, so to run ps I had to
use ./ps but here is what I saw...

bash-2.05b$ ./ps
  PIDPPIDPGID WINPID  TTY  UIDSTIME COMMAND
 1260   11260   1260  con 11125 10:25:27 /usr/bin/sh
 400412601260   4004

RE: Cygwin setup stopped @99%

2003-10-12 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen

 From: G. Oto
(B Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 9:05 AM
(B
(BI removed [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrong place to send to.
(B
(BYour problem is well known, but if you have others you'll have to read up on
(Bhttp://cygwin.com/problems.html beforehand.
(B
(B I followed the instructions on www.cygwin.com on how to install
(B the current
(B Cygwin, downloaded the setup.exe and ran it. The installation went well
(B until it remained only 1% to the end of the installation. The installation
(B suddenly stopped. I tried 3 times but to no avail. (Please refer to the
(B attached jpeg file for where the installtion stopped. Clicking
(B the "cancel"
(B button displayed "Installation Complete" message and nothing
(B more). Can you tell me what to do, please?
(B My pc runs on Windows XP with 1024MB RAM and 120GB HDD.
(B
(BYour PC is one of those that doesn't accept that '/bin/cygpath.exe' is used
(Bin a specific way during installation.
(B
(BIt has been discussed a lot lately, search for the cause has been initiated
(Band continuation is imminent.
(B
(B To fix this problem for the time beeing - do this, from a bash shell
(Bprompt:
(B
(B$ cd /etc/postinstall/
(B$ XFree86-bin-icons.sh
(B
(BWhen you press enter on that the task that was meant to be done during
(Binstallation will be completed.
(B
(BTo make it not bother you more, until next time it gets 'installed' you can
(Bdo this:
(B
(B$ mv XFree86-bin-icons.sh XFree86-bin-icons.sh.done
(B
(BGoogle on something like "site:cygwin.com inurl:ml +cygpath +hang" to read
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RE: setpriority() and PRIO_PROCESS under Cygwin

2003-10-12 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
 Of Terrence Brannon
 Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 2:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: setpriority() and PRIO_PROCESS under Cygwin


 I am trying to compile a free high-quality chess database, known as Scid:

  http://www.skjoldebrand.org/scid/

 Here is the error I get

   ~/wares/scid-3.5a $ cat make.err
 In file included from src/game.h:24,
  from src/tkscid.h:20,
  from src/tkscid.cpp:16:
 src/textbuf.h: In member function `void
 TextBuffer::ClearTranslation(char)':
 src/textbuf.h:70: warning: array subscript has type `char'
 src/tkscid.cpp: In function `int sc_info_priority(void*, Tcl_Interp*, int,
const char**)':
 src/tkscid.cpp:8363: error: `PRIO_PROCESS' undeclared (first use this
 function)
 src/tkscid.cpp:8363: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
 once
for each function it appears in.)
 src/tkscid.cpp:8363: error: `setpriority' undeclared (first use this
 function)
 src/tkscid.cpp:8368: error: `getpriority' undeclared (first use this
 function)
 make: *** [src/tkscid.o] Error 1
 ~/wares/scid-3.5a $

  end paste , text continue =

 I saw some assorted messages on the Cygwin mail archives about this, but
 issueing a find on /usr/include did not help. Nor did getting a version
 of pthreads-win32 as there is no PRIO_PROCESS defined there.

 Can anyone suggest a solution for getting code making calls to
 setpriority() and using PRIO_PROCESS to compile under Cygwin?

 Thanks.

+ setpriority/getpriority are not implemented in Cygwin.
+
+ Corinna

This means; use __CYGWIN__ or some such to create conditional (i.e.
exclusion of) compiling of those parts of the source.

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Re: 1.5.4-1: Problem with XEmacs, fonts, and subprocesses.

2003-10-12 Thread Henry S. Thompson

I don't think any of those environment differences account for the
problem.  On my own setup almost all of those are _not_ there, and in
particular the PATH is the same, since I don't have X installed.

Note it's important for at least some of us that Cygwin/XEmacs works
_without_ X.

Thanks _very_ much for taking on the XEmacs-Cygwin liaison task.

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RE: Can't build cygwin from CVS: configure error

2003-10-12 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen

 From: Christopher Faylor
 Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 12:04 AM

This is long and winding, not entirely on topic - you've been warned.

 On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 11:38:36PM +0200, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote:

  =-)  Well, eventually it did work with the root level configure.
 The reason I aimed at that one was that the FAQ told me to go for it.
 
 Having instructions and the real life situation not match each
 other makes
 me go nuts ;-) .

 Would you GIVE IT A REST for crying out loud?

 The instructions work.  You found a bug in CVS.  It took longer to fix
 than it should have because you spent all of your time whining about
 how bad the instructions were rather than using common sense, noticing
 the *errors* that occurred when you checked things out of cvs, and
 reporting the *errors*.

Inexperienced user, first time cvs use, loads of lines whizzing by, no error
message *at the end*; not a likely situation to generate a usable error
report.

 I'm not blaming you, somebody else nor cvs for the failure. All those
comments were _impersonal_ as I see it.

On other words; You don't need to take offense, I REALLY hope that my
writing didn't imply something in line with that.
I *do* express my frustration though, if that is so hard reading... well I
don't know what to do about that.

Once again; please don't take it so personally.

 Additionally, there is no requirement to put the sources in a specially
 named directory.  You can put them in /src.  You can put them in /bob.

 You can build in a subdirectory of /src.  You can build in a separate
 directory entirely.

  A simple README and/or a Makefile could've helped a lot.

 Yeah.  A README.  Or a Makefile.  Sigh.

Sigh - yes, or even better; the FAQ stating that there should be a configure
script in the root dir after the checkout - as it depends on it beeing
there - i.e. You should now have a /src/configure script. Run it like
this:.
 (The description also assumes that one have done cd /... but it isn't
stated anywhere... confusion factor increases.)
That would have made me - being a beginner - able to tell that something was
wrong, not considering cvs malfunction at this occasion.

 As a beginner I'm vulnerable to things like that - I do not have the
experience to say when something has gone wrong.
I would consider this being a stability issue for the FAQ/documentation.
Software that is unstable usually gets fixed... hint, hint ;-)
(yes I know; PTC, we've been there before)

 I'll be investigating gdb and the possibilities with this dll.

 Please don't bother.  I'm asking again.  Please give it up.

 Right, I've got the picture... I have interest in the matter though, this
is the way I learn.
Once again, I'm not *trying* to get you into this mood. My style of
expressing myself, my frustration and such, seems to peck hard on your mind.
Sorry about that. I wish I could supply you with polariod glasses for
filtering it out.

 Go rest.
 No feedback required.  You're off the hook.  Pull out a cold one,

 kick back the recliner and go watch Dharma and Greg.

 Yuck, that was a *real* bad one... ;-p

 Let the experts build and debug cygwin.

 You know, I really didn't expect to be to any help here... I haven't
checked but anyway; If you go back and read the postings I've made, I would
be VERY surprised if there wasn't one implication *or more* about me not
expecting to be the right person for the task (you won't see it spelled out
though).
 When someting catches my interest it's easy to get me carried along, going
in that direction though... I *like* to be in the middle of things.

 Hope this helps explain and understand that I'm not here to destroy nor
offend.

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Re: std::ofstream causes segfault in 1.5.x

2003-10-12 Thread thomas

On Sonntag, 12. Oktober 2003 at 10:34:02, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

28 7293919 [main] cdrdao 1576 mmap64: addr 0, len 1065811968, prot 3, flags 22, 
 fd -1, off 0

 Can you tell me why the process tries to mmap 1065811968 bytes == ~1Gig?
 That won't work, nor would it under 1.3.22 on the same machine.  The cause
 for this is outside of the strace and very likely outside of mmap itself.

Hmmm that is certainly most interesting. It's just opening a simple file to
write ~10 lines to it. The exact same source code compiled in a 1.3.18
environment works perfectly. I'm gonna debug it some more and see if i can
find what makes the difference.

thomas




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Cygwin and the boost librraies

2003-10-12 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld

Hi all,

Is there anyone who uses the Boost libraries with Cygwin, in particular
the Boost thread libraries, and cares to share his/hers knowledge how to
compile the library (version 1.30.2) so that I can use the threads
libries?

TIA

Joost Kraaijeveld
Askesis B.V.
Molukkenstraat 14
6524NB Nijmegen
tel: 024-3888063 / 06-51855277
fax: 024-3608416
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.askesis.nl 


 


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Re: std::ofstream causes segfault in 1.5.x

2003-10-12 Thread thomas


28 7293919 [main] cdrdao 1576 mmap64: addr 0, len 1065811968, prot 3, flags 22, 
 fd -1, off 0

 Can you tell me why the process tries to mmap 1065811968 bytes == ~1Gig?
 That won't work, nor would it under 1.3.22 on the same machine.  The cause
 for this is outside of the strace and very likely outside of mmap itself.

 Hmmm that is certainly most interesting. It's just opening a simple file to
 write ~10 lines to it. The exact same source code compiled in a 1.3.18
 environment works perfectly. I'm gonna debug it some more and see if i can
 find what makes the difference.

Ok replying to myself here. Except for some changed function names there is
little difference between the the two strace outputs. The only difference
appears to be that the 1.3.18 one doesn't seem to call mmap at all. Maybe
someone can take a minute and see if he/she spots a crucial difference and
can point me in some direction. I removed some probably irrelevant parts
like symlink_info and path convert from the strace output.


1.3.18:

   44 7574117 [main] cdrdao 956 open: open (test.toc, 0x601)
   [...]
   26 7574807 [main] cdrdao 956 dtable::build_fhandler: fd 3, fh 0x61120930
   20 7574827 [main] cdrdao 956 fhandler_base::open: 
(C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao\dao\test.toc, 0x100601) query_open 0
   21 7574848 [main] cdrdao 956 alloc_sd: uid 1003, gid 513, attribute 1B4
   29 7574943 [main] cdrdao 956 alloc_sd: ACL-Size: 100
   21 7574964 [main] cdrdao 956 alloc_sd: Created SD-Size: 176
 6672 7581636 [main] cdrdao 956 fhandler_base::open: 0x710 = CreateFile 
(C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao\dao\test.toc, 0x4000, 0x7, 0x22F714, 0x2, 
0x280, 0)
   97 7581733 [main] cdrdao 956 fhandler_base::set_flags: flags 0x100601, supplied_bin 
0x1
   23 7581756 [main] cdrdao 956 fhandler_base::set_flags: filemode set to binary
   18 7581774 [main] cdrdao 956 fhandler_base::open: 1 = fhandler_base::open 
(C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao\dao\test.toc, 0x100601)
   22 7581796 [main] cdrdao 956 fhandler_disk_file::open: 1 = fhandler_disk_file::open 
(C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao\dao\test.toc, 0x601)
   22 7581818 [main] cdrdao 956 open: 3 = open (test.toc, 0x601)
   [...]
   33 7582263 [main] cdrdao 956 fhandler_disk_file::fstat_by_handle: 1 = 
GetFileInformationByHandle (C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao\dao\test.toc, 1808)
   26 7582289 [main] cdrdao 956 get_nt_attribute: file: 
C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao\dao\test.toc
   19 7582308 [main] cdrdao 956 read_sd: file = 
C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao\dao\test.toc
   60 7582368 [main] cdrdao 956 read_sd: file = 
C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao\dao\test.toc: len=176
   45 7582413 [main] cdrdao 956 get_nt_attribute: file: 
C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao\dao\test.toc 1B4, uid 1003, gid 513
   21 7582434 [main] cdrdao 956 fhandler_disk_file::fstat_helper: 0 = fstat (, 
0x22F948) st_atime=3F897864 st_size=0, st_mode=0x81B4, st_ino=2863079, sizeof=88
   21 7582455 [main] cdrdao 956 fstat64: 0 = fstat (3, 0x22F948)
   50 7582505 [main] cdrdao 956 writev: writev (3, 0x22FA3C, 1)
   20 7582525 [main] cdrdao 956 fhandler_base::write: binary write
   96 7582621 [main] cdrdao 956 fhandler_base::write: 36 = write (0xA063218, 36)
   22 7582643 [main] cdrdao 956 writev: 36 = write (3, 0x22FA3C, 1), errno 2
   21 7582664 [main] cdrdao 956 writev: writev (3, 0x22FA3C, 1)

1.5.5 (latest CVS snapshot):

   41 7340917 [main] cdrdao 376 open: open (test.toc, 0x601)
   [...]
   28 7341626 [main] cdrdao 376 build_fh_pc: fh 0x61654A74
   20 7341646 [main] cdrdao 376 fhandler_base::open: 
(C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao-1.1.7\dao\test.toc, 0x100601) query_open 0
   23 7341669 [main] cdrdao 376 alloc_sd: uid 1003, gid 513, attribute 1B4
   26 7341743 [main] cdrdao 376 alloc_sd: ACL-Size: 100
   21 7341764 [main] cdrdao 376 alloc_sd: Created SD-Size: 176
  226 7341990 [main] cdrdao 376 fhandler_base::open: 0x6B4 = CreateFile 
(C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao-1.1.7\dao\test.toc, 0x4000, 0x7, 0x22F608, 
0x2, 0x280, 0)
   44 7342034 [main] cdrdao 376 fhandler_base::set_flags: flags 0x100601, supplied_bin 
0x1
   20 7342054 [main] cdrdao 376 fhandler_base::set_flags: filemode set to binary
   17 7342071 [main] cdrdao 376 fhandler_base::open: 1 = fhandler_base::open 
(C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao-1.1.7\dao\test.toc, 0x100601)
   19 7342090 [main] cdrdao 376 fhandler_base::open_fs: 1 = fhandler_disk_file::open 
(C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao-1.1.7\dao\test.toc, 0x601)
   18 7342108 [main] cdrdao 376 open: 3 = open (test.toc, 0x601)
   [...]
   68 7342176 [main] cdrdao 376 fhandler_base::fstat_by_handle: 1 = 
GetFileInformationByHandle (C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao-1.1.7\dao\test.toc, 
1716)
   96 7342272 [main] cdrdao 376 get_file_attribute: file: 
C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao-1.1.7\dao\test.toc
   25 7342297 [main] cdrdao 376 read_sd: file = 
C:\Programme\cygDEV\home\root\cdrdao-1.1.7\dao\test.toc
   86 7342383

Re: 1.5.4-1: Problem with XEmacs, fonts, and subprocesses.

2003-10-12 Thread Yadin Y Goldschmidt

The recent snapshot from 10/10/03 seems to have solved the XEmacs problem
for me. Thank
you Chris for an excellent job. It was clear from the start that you were
the right person to solve this problem.




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Re: std::ofstream causes segfault in 1.5.x

On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 06:30:55PM +0200, thomas wrote:
 
 28 7293919 [main] cdrdao 1576 mmap64: addr 0, len 1065811968, prot 3, flags 
  22, fd -1, off 0
 
  Can you tell me why the process tries to mmap 1065811968 bytes == ~1Gig?
  That won't work, nor would it under 1.3.22 on the same machine.  The cause
  for this is outside of the strace and very likely outside of mmap itself.
 
  Hmmm that is certainly most interesting. It's just opening a simple file to
  write ~10 lines to it. The exact same source code compiled in a 1.3.18
  environment works perfectly. I'm gonna debug it some more and see if i can
  find what makes the difference.
 
 Ok replying to myself here. Except for some changed function names there is
 little difference between the the two strace outputs. The only difference
 appears to be that the 1.3.18 one doesn't seem to call mmap at all. Maybe
 someone can take a minute and see if he/she spots a crucial difference and
 can point me in some direction. I removed some probably irrelevant parts
 like symlink_info and path convert from the strace output.

If you can send a very brief testcase to this list, which builds and
shows the error OOTB, I'll look into it.

Btw., did you try to debug this beyond looking into the strace?

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Add Download Manager to Cygwin Setup

2003-10-12 Thread Daniel Morgan

Hello Cygwin Developers,

When I am trying to install various things via Cygwin setup.exe, it stops
downloading stuff for some reason.  This maybe due to my internet connection
or router.  I have DSL.

I was wondering if the setup.exe could be modified to automatically re-start
downloading the current file it stopped on. The timeout could be 20 seconds
before restarting for example. This way I could get the entire Cygwin with
no problem.  Otherwise, I have to restart setup.exe a dozen times, select a
few more packages, and try to download those packages...

Now, if I could get the cvs software to do that too, I could participate in
open source software projects again.

Thanks in advance,
Daniel


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RE: std::ofstream causes segfault in 1.5.x

2003-10-12 Thread Gareth Pearce

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of thomas
 Sent: Monday, 13 October 2003 1:07 AM
 To: Corinna Vinschen
 Subject: Re: std::ofstream causes segfault in 1.5.x

 On Sonntag, 12. Oktober 2003 at 10:34:02, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

 28 7293919 [main] cdrdao 1576 mmap64: addr 0, len 1065811968, prot
 3, flags 22, fd -1, off 0

  Can you tell me why the process tries to mmap 1065811968 bytes == ~1Gig?
  That won't work, nor would it under 1.3.22 on the same machine.  The
 cause
  for this is outside of the strace and very likely outside of mmap
 itself.

 Hmmm that is certainly most interesting. It's just opening a simple file
 to
 write ~10 lines to it. The exact same source code compiled in a 1.3.18
 environment works perfectly. I'm gonna debug it some more and see if i can
 find what makes the difference.

The 1.3.22 environment wouldn't be using a different gcc version by any
chance?

Gareth

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Re: merging mingw and cygwin

2003-10-12 Thread Larry Hall

At 01:19 AM 10/12/2003, Edward Peschko you wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 12:27:06AM -0400, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
 At 10:01 PM 10/11/2003, Edward Peschko you wrote:
  What would be the point?
 
 lack of end-user confusion... elimination of duplicate development effort... 
 elimination 
 of duplicate maintenance effort... the ability to compile all unix tools 'native' 
 win32 
 for those who desire it.
 
 
 It's too bad you chose to edit the original context down to nothing.  Your
 response makes little sense now.

Ok, the original context was 'what would be the point in merging the two projects.

The answer is given above.


Right.  And my answer is below.


 If you don't want the two sets of tools, why did you install them?  No 
 one told you to.  

well, that's not what the mingw docs suggest. They suggest to use cygwin to 'fill in 
the
gaps'. Which is rather silly, because that doesn't work.


As I said, MSYS is a subset of the tools available in the Cygwin environment
and doesn't provide a POSIX API.  I'm not going to debate the Mingw docs.
This isn't the forum for it anyway.  



 Use the tools that work for you.  From your stated goal, I would say that
 Cygwin tools would suit you best.  But you should be able to get there with
 either toolset, depending on your application and the amount of porting you
 want to do to get it running on Windows.

no.. the cygwin tools don't suit me best if there are unixisms in the executables I 
and dlls I create, or if they require a POSIX sublayer. Ultimately, I'd like to use 
whatever executables I get out of cygwin in conjunction with VC++ and third party
win32 APIs. (horrors!)


I'm sorry.  Who said this couldn't be done with either Cygwin or Mingw?
You're seeing issues that don't exist.  I guess I wasn't making that plain
enough for you.  In the general case, you can build your app with Cygwin 
(-mno-cygwin or not) or Mingw and run it however you like, integrate it 
with whatever you like, and use it however you like.  Does that eliminate 
your quandary?
 

I want to develop native win32 applications on unix. I don't want to use the POSIX 
emulation layer. But I do want to use unix tools to do my development. I also want to 
make sure that any scripts, makefiles, what have you don't create constructs 
which native windows applications find annoying. (so far I've found one such 
construct; 
'directory' links as shortcuts; you can use junctions on winnt+ which are *much* 
better)


Well, if you're creating your own application build environment for your
project, you don't have to use shortcuts if you don't want them.  The
fact that some random Windows applications don't handle them well is a 
problem for that application or with the Windows environment itself, not
the Cygwin or Mingw toolsets.  But this is all getting highly conjectural 
again so let's put this line of discussion to rest here.

But again you're confused.  Neither Cygwin nor Mingw/MSYS are UNIX.  They
don't run there.  They're not needed there.  And if you are building an 
application on UNIX and want to bring it to Windows with minimal porting
effort, POSIX will be *very* important for you.  But I don't think that's
what you want to do anyway.  So you statements above are conflicting.  

You need to move from the theoretical and into the practical.  Pick one
of these two sets of tools and start working with them.  Use them to do 
what you're trying to do.  If you find a problem, research for the answer.
If the toolset you picked can't do what you want, look at the other.  I
think you'll find you have what you need.  If not, at least at that point
you'll have a specific, concrete need that can more readily and directly
be discussed.


 You don't understand what the main difference is between Cygwin and Mingw
 do you?  Have you checked?  OK, I'll tell you.  Cygwin provides a POSIX
 emulation layer (I assume that means something to you if your stated 

yes, I understand all of this.

 goal of bringing something from UNIX to Windows is actually what you want
 to do).  So this generally lowers the burden of porting packages to Win32.
 With luck, the code base compiles and runs without change.  I think you can
 understand the value in that, right?  You don't get this with Mingw.  You
 don't get this with MSYS (see 
 http://www.mingw.org/mingwfaq.shtml#faq-msys).  So what you suggest 
 really doesn't make sense in the context of Cygwin in terms of just plain
 generating binaries from traditional UNIX source packages.

yes, I understand this too.

 This whole cygwin/mingw split reminds me a lot of egcs vs. gcc... and
 I think that the same reasons for merging apply here. 
 
 
 The fundamentals between the two projects (Cygwin and Mingw) are different, 
 despite the fact that they both target Win32 as the output of their build
 tools.  The difference is that Cygwin provides a POSIX API and the resulting
 binaries are subject to the GPL (please don't let this be an opening to 
 start a

Re: std::ofstream causes segfault in 1.5.x

2003-10-12 Thread thomas


 28 7293919 [main] cdrdao 1576 mmap64: addr 0, len 1065811968, prot 3, flags 
  22, fd -1, off 0

  Can you tell me why the process tries to mmap 1065811968 bytes == ~1Gig?
  That won't work, nor would it under 1.3.22 on the same machine. The cause
  for this is outside of the strace and very likely outside of mmap
  itself.

 Hmmm that is certainly most interesting. It's just opening a simple file
 to write ~10 lines to it. The exact same source code compiled in a 1.3.18
 environment works perfectly.

 The 1.3.22 environment wouldn't be using a different gcc version by any
 chance?

Actually no, they are both gcc version 2.95.3-10 (cygwin special). However
that gave me the idea to build the same source with gcc version 3.3.1
(cygming special) on 1.5.5 now, and it works flawlessly! No sight of mmap64
in the strace output either.

thomas



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Re: std::ofstream causes segfault in 1.5.x

On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 09:02:58PM +0200, thomas wrote:
 28 7293919 [main] cdrdao 1576 mmap64: addr 0, len 1065811968, prot 3, flags 
  22, fd -1, off 0
Can you tell me why the process tries to mmap 1065811968 bytes ==
~1Gig?  That won't work, nor would it under 1.3.22 on the same machine.
The cause for this is outside of the strace and very likely outside of
mmap itself.

Hmmm that is certainly most interesting.  It's just opening a simple
file to write ~10 lines to it.  The exact same source code compiled in
a 1.3.18 environment works perfectly.

The 1.3.22 environment wouldn't be using a different gcc version by any
chance?

Actually no, they are both gcc version 2.95.3-10 (cygwin special).
However that gave me the idea to build the same source with gcc
version 3.3.1 (cygming special) on 1.5.5 now, and it works flawlessly!
No sight of mmap64 in the strace output either.

Well, that was adequate motivation to get me to finally remove the gcc2
package.

Looks like the standard answer of using http://cygwin.com/problems.html
was the right one in this case.  I apologize to Corinna for dragging her
into this.

cgf

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package removed: gcc2-2.95-*

As previously stated, I have now removed gcc2 from the distribution on
sources.redhat.com.  It will disappear from mirrors shortly, I'm sure.

Please send complaints to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 01:12:01AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
I don't have the time or the inclination to support gcc 2.95 (aka the
gcc2 package).  That fact wasn't a really big deal until David
Billinghurst pointed out that the package contained a serious flaw.  So,
rather than subject people to a broken g++, I will be end-of-lifing the
gcc2 package next week unless someone steps forward to claim package
maintainership.

This means I will remove the package from sources.redhat.com and it
will no longer be available for download via setup.exe.

If you are interested in maintaining this package, please send email
to cygwin-apps.  Serious inquries only, please, i.e.  no I have never
built a package before and don't really know C but if you are available
to step me through ever individual step required, I might do it if it
isn't too hard.

If you have questions or comments not related to volunteering for
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Re: std::ofstream causes segfault in 1.5.x

On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 03:06:14PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 09:02:58PM +0200, thomas wrote:
  28 7293919 [main] cdrdao 1576 mmap64: addr 0, len 1065811968, prot 3, 
   flags 22, fd -1, off 0
 Can you tell me why the process tries to mmap 1065811968 bytes ==
 ~1Gig?  That won't work, nor would it under 1.3.22 on the same machine.
 The cause for this is outside of the strace and very likely outside of
 mmap itself.
 [...]
 Actually no, they are both gcc version 2.95.3-10 (cygwin special).
 However that gave me the idea to build the same source with gcc
 version 3.3.1 (cygming special) on 1.5.5 now, and it works flawlessly!
 No sight of mmap64 in the strace output either.
 
 Well, that was adequate motivation to get me to finally remove the gcc2
 package.
 
 Looks like the standard answer of using http://cygwin.com/problems.html
 was the right one in this case.  I apologize to Corinna for dragging her
 into this.

No worries.  I'm just annoyed with myself since I was going to ask for
the used gcc version in my first posting and removed that question
again before sending it :-P

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cygrunsrv can't run as administrator

2003-10-12 Thread Alex Liberman

hello, when I try to install a service with cygrunsrv and select the option 
to run that process as administrator, cygrunsrv is unable to start the 
process (eg fetchmail but it can be any process). It runs ok as LocalUser. 
Also I can tell that cygrunsrv isn't even able to get to the binary when I 
use the run as administrator option, because when I do ls -lu 
/bin/fetchmail.exe the access time is old. Any ideas? thx,

using cygrunsrv-0.96-2 on win2k

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Re: Add Download Manager to Cygwin Setup

2003-10-12 Thread Igor Pechtchanski

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, Daniel Morgan wrote:

 Hello Cygwin Developers,

 When I am trying to install various things via Cygwin setup.exe, it stops
 downloading stuff for some reason.  This maybe due to my internet connection
 or router.  I have DSL.

 I was wondering if the setup.exe could be modified to automatically
 re-start downloading the current file it stopped on.  The timeout could
 be 20 seconds before restarting for example.  This way I could get the
 entire Cygwin with no problem.  Otherwise, I have to restart setup.exe a
 dozen times, select a few more packages, and try to download those
 packages...

It certainly could.  IIRC, restarting partial downloads was on the setup
TODO list at some point (maybe it still is -- I'm too lazy to look).
FWIW, http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PTC.

 Now, if I could get the cvs software to do that too, I could participate in
 open source software projects again.

 Thanks in advance,
 Daniel

Doesn't CVS do this already?  BTW, you can also use wget to download
source tarballs...
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Re: cygrunsrv can't run as administrator

On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 12:36:27PM -0700, Alex Liberman wrote:
 hello, when I try to install a service with cygrunsrv and select the option 
 to run that process as administrator, cygrunsrv is unable to start the 
 process (eg fetchmail but it can be any process). It runs ok as LocalUser. 
 Also I can tell that cygrunsrv isn't even able to get to the binary when I 
 use the run as administrator option, because when I do ls -lu 
 /bin/fetchmail.exe the access time is old. Any ideas? thx,

The administrator account has by default no right to start services.
You can add that right by calling

  editrights -u administrator -a SeServiceLogonRight

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Re: cygrunsrv can't run as administrator

On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 10:36:40PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 12:36:27PM -0700, Alex Liberman wrote:
  hello, when I try to install a service with cygrunsrv and select the option 
  to run that process as administrator, cygrunsrv is unable to start the 
  process (eg fetchmail but it can be any process). It runs ok as LocalUser. 
  Also I can tell that cygrunsrv isn't even able to get to the binary when I 
  use the run as administrator option, because when I do ls -lu 
  /bin/fetchmail.exe the access time is old. Any ideas? thx,
 
 The administrator account has by default no right to start services.
   ^^
Oh well, make this ... run services under its account.

Corinna

 You can add that right by calling
 
   editrights -u administrator -a SeServiceLogonRight

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Re: cygrunsrv can't run as administrator

2003-10-12 Thread Alex Liberman

The administrator account has by default no right to start services.
You can add that right by calling

  editrights -u administrator -a SeServiceLogonRight

Corinna
thx but that wasn't it either, however have worked around by pointing 
cygrunsrv --path to a script hehe

cygrunsrv -I fetchmail --path /bin/bash.exe -a /home/Administrator/sh.sh 
--shutdown

$ cat sh.sh
#!/bin/bash
exec su Administrator -c /bin/fetchmail -N  /home/Administrator/pass.txt

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Re: setpriority() and PRIO_PROCESS under Cygwin

2003-10-12 Thread Ehud Karni

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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:21:41 +0200, Hannu E K Nevalainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 + setpriority/getpriority are not implemented in Cygwin.

 This means; use __CYGWIN__ or some such to create conditional (i.e.
 exclusion of) compiling of those parts of the source.

I did it once like this (code from a program I no longer use):

#ifdef __CYGWIN__
#include windows.h   /* for some specific Windoz calls */
#endif /* __CYGWIN__ */


#ifdef __CYGWIN__
   {
   HANDLE WinId ;

   WinId = GetCurrentProcess ( ) ; /* get my Windows HANDLE */
   SetPriorityClass ( WinId , REALTIME_PRIORITY_CLASS ) ;  /* set priority to REAL 
TIME CLASS */
   }
#endif /* __CYGWIN__ */

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Re: cygwin1.dll missing getreent and fopen

2003-10-12 Thread synthespian

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Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Data: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:04:18 +0200
Assunto: Re: cygwin1.dll missing getreent and fopen
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 02:44:48PM +, Misha Gale wrote:
I have just tried to install cygwin, using the setup.exe downloaded from
cygwin.com, and installing from a local directory (rsync'ed from
sources.redhat.com last night) and having installed all the packages,
come to the postinstall stage and been bombarded with messages saying
The procedure entry point __fopen64 couldn not be located in the dynamic
link library cygwin1.dll or The procedure entry point __getreent couldn
not be located in the dynamic link library cygwin1.dll

This occurs when 'bash' 'sed', 'basename' or 'uname' (and probably
others) are executed. I have also recieved an unable to locate dll for
cygpcre.dll from 'grep.exe'

cygwin1.dll is installed in /bin, is this the right location or should it
be in %SYSTEMROOT%?

No! Never!

I am running Win2000 Pro SP4.

Is it actually possible someone has oopsed in the dll code tree and
removed these rather crucial functions? Or have have I got a corrupt dll
somehow?

An older one. Apparently you didn't install using the setup.exe tool.
Remove your Cygwin installation, download setup.exe (http://cygwin.com
has a link) and start setup.exe to install a Cygwin distro.

Corinna

Hi --

I have experienced the same problem
under WindowsME, since the two
releases after Sept 20th. I do not get
the fopen error, but I do experience
the getreent error.
Complete reinstallation, including
redownloading setup.exe does not work.
The complaint about cygwin1.dll
remains and the shell doesn't launch.
I was just about to post a similiar
report; here it is:

Cygwin fails to start on WinME. This
is after the 2 latest releases:
starting on the September 20 release
and the current.
I have tried reinstalling Cygwin more
than one, re-downloading, etc, but to
no avail.
The error msg I get (translated from
Portuguese) is:

The file BASH.EXE is linked to the
(to a) CYGWIN1.DLL export file that
was not found: __getreent.

I have Cygwin in C:\cygwin

However, the CYGWIN1.dll is placed
right under C:\cygwin\bin

Could this have something to do with
the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable? However,
in my previous installation, I don't
remember fiddling with this variable...

This is the CYGWIN .bat file

@echo off

C:
chdir C:\cygwin\bin

bash --login -i

PATH

c:\bin\emacs-21.2:c:\cygwin\bin:c:\cygwin\usr\bin:c:cygwin\usr\local\bin;C:\Perl\bin\;c:\ruby\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\POSSUM5\jmf;C:\POSSUM5\poet\bin;C:\POSSUM5\java\bin;C:\j2sdk1.4.1_01\bin;%PATH;C:\sml\bin;C:\bin\Mozart\bin;C:\pp\bin\win32

HOMEc:\cygwin\home DEFAULT

I do not have a CYGWIN variable, as
mentioned in the User Guide:

C:\ set CYGWIN=tty notitle glob

but that doesn't work when I use it on
the DOS prompt.

The CYGWIN1.dll is version 1003.22.0.0

Any help appreciated, because I'm
/seriously/ stuck.

-- Henry

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Setup: prevent scan for domain users by mkpasswd

2003-10-12 Thread Huijing Zhou

I'm working at an university computer lab with over 6000 users in our 
Active Directory. You can imagine how long it takes for Cygwin Setup to 
add all of them into passwd. I know Setup calls mkpasswd with the -l 
option, but it doesn't help when I run the installation on a Windows server.

Maybe it's better to change mkpasswd and mkgroup so that they do nothing 
when called with -l on a Server, or maybe there are some other ways to 
resolve it. Actually I don't care, I just don't like to wait an hour or 
two for passwd-grp.sh.

Huijing

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Re: merging mingw and cygwin

 to support just gcc.  Everyone does not want all of the 600+ megabytes
 of Cygwin just because they want a C++ compiler (or C, or FORTRAN).  That
 is why some good, open source IDE's for C/C++ use MingW as part of their
 full installation.  No fuss, no muss, relatively lightweight download.
 
 Wayne Keen
 
Right.. all good points, but all minor barriers to overcome. All you would have to do 
is put an 'install mingw subset' button on setup.exe, and it would well, install a 
mingw
subset and put cygwin in 'mingw mode'. 

It sure would beat the install process for mingw right now, which is a manual 
horror right now involving the download and installation of several,
separate packages in different directories.

If, of course -mno-cygwin == mingw, which I'm going through right now.

Ed

(
ps - even if I can cobble together, say berkeleydb which builds native in mingw 
right
now, how does -mno-cygwin benefit from all the work that the mingw team has done in
making the native windows port of cygwin work?
)

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Re: cygwin1.dll missing getreent and fopen

2003-10-12 Thread Igor Pechtchanski

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, synthespian wrote:

-- Início da mensagem original ---
From: Corinna Vinschen
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:04:18 +0200
Subject: Re: cygwin1.dll missing getreent and fopen

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 02:44:48PM +, Misha Gale wrote:
I have just tried to install cygwin, using the setup.exe downloaded from
cygwin.com, and installing from a local directory (rsync'ed from
sources.redhat.com last night) and having installed all the packages,
come to the postinstall stage and been bombarded with messages saying
The procedure entry point __fopen64 couldn not be located in the dynamic
link library cygwin1.dll or The procedure entry point __getreent couldn
not be located in the dynamic link library cygwin1.dll

This occurs when 'bash' 'sed', 'basename' or 'uname' (and probably
others) are executed. I have also recieved an unable to locate dll for
cygpcre.dll from 'grep.exe'

cygwin1.dll is installed in /bin, is this the right location or should it
be in %SYSTEMROOT%?

No! Never!

I am running Win2000 Pro SP4.

Is it actually possible someone has oopsed in the dll code tree and
removed these rather crucial functions? Or have have I got a corrupt dll
somehow?

Corinna

Hi --

I have experienced the same problem under WindowsME, since the two
releases after Sept 20th. I do not get the fopen error, but I do
experience the getreent error. Complete reinstallation, including
redownloading setup.exe does not work. The complaint about cygwin1.dll
remains and the shell doesn't launch. I was just about to post a
similiar report; here it is:

Cygwin fails to start on WinME. This is after the 2 latest releases:
starting on the September 20 release and the current. I have tried
reinstalling Cygwin more than one, re-downloading, etc, but to no avail.
The error msg I get (translated from Portuguese) is:

The file BASH.EXE is linked to the (to a) CYGWIN1.DLL export file that
was not found: __getreent.

I have Cygwin in C:\cygwin

However, the CYGWIN1.dll is placed right under C:\cygwin\bin

Could this have something to do with the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable?
However, in my previous installation, I don't remember fiddling with
this variable...

This is the CYGWIN .bat file

@echo off

C:
chdir C:\cygwin\bin

bash --login -i

PATH

HOMEc:\cygwin\home DEFAULT

I do not have a CYGWIN variable, as mentioned in the User Guide:

C:\ set CYGWIN=tty notitle glob

but that doesn't work when I use it on the DOS prompt.

The CYGWIN1.dll is version 1003.22.0.0

Any help appreciated, because I'm /seriously/ stuck.

-- Henry

Henry,

Please read and follow the Cygwin problem reporting guidelines at
http://cygwin.com/problems.html, especially the part about attaching
(as an uncompressed text *attachment*) the output of cygcheck -svr.
FWIW, it looks like you have another copy of cygwin1.dll in your path.
Also, your PATH has wrong separators (if it's a Windows path, it should
have ';'s, and if it's a Unix path, it should have POSIX directories).
Igor
P.S. FYI, Cygwin ignores LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and the DLLs are found using
the value of PATH.
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Re: Setup: prevent scan for domain users by mkpasswd

2003-10-12 Thread Igor Pechtchanski

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Huijing Zhou wrote:

 I'm working at an university computer lab with over 6000 users in our
 Active Directory. You can imagine how long it takes for Cygwin Setup to
 add all of them into passwd. I know Setup calls mkpasswd with the -l
 option, but it doesn't help when I run the installation on a Windows server.

 Maybe it's better to change mkpasswd and mkgroup so that they do nothing
 when called with -l on a Server, or maybe there are some other ways to
 resolve it. Actually I don't care, I just don't like to wait an hour or
 two for passwd-grp.sh.

 Huijing

If you're installing Cygwin just for yourself, simply don't install the
base-passwd package initially (i.e., generate an /etc/passwd that you
want manually, using mkpasswd -u, for example, and then install the
package).  This will not let any of the other users run Cygwin, and you'd
have to add them to /etc/passwd manually afterwards if you want them to
have that ability.

If you do want students to be able to run Cygwin, you'll just have to wait
for passwd-grp.sh to complete.  Leave it overnight, or something...  You'd
have to update /etc/passwd and /etc/group whenever new users/groups are
created, too.
Igor
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Re: merging mingw and cygwin

2003-10-12 Thread Larry Hall

At 06:41 PM 10/12/2003, Edward Peschko you wrote:
 to support just gcc.  Everyone does not want all of the 600+ megabytes
 of Cygwin just because they want a C++ compiler (or C, or FORTRAN).  That
 is why some good, open source IDE's for C/C++ use MingW as part of their
 full installation.  No fuss, no muss, relatively lightweight download.
 
 Wayne Keen
 
Right.. all good points, but all minor barriers to overcome. All you would have to do 
is put an 'install mingw subset' button on setup.exe, and it would well, install a 
mingw
subset and put cygwin in 'mingw mode'. 


Not true.  Cygwin already has this mingw mode.  Granted, there's no one
button in setup for it.  But if you really wanted one button, you could add 
a package that had dependencies on all the packages you'd want.  That would
do it.  I'm guessing we're again talking in the hypothetical sense since
you've stated previously that you have no plans to contribute anything 
towards your professed goals.  But I thought it important to correct your
misstatements.  It would really be better if you tried harder to verify 
the validity of your statements before you make them.  It will help keep
the email archives from filling up with unproductive assertions.


It sure would beat the install process for mingw right now, which is a manual 
horror right now involving the download and installation of several,
separate packages in different directories.


That's a Mingw issue and is off-topic for this list.



If, of course -mno-cygwin == mingw, which I'm going through right now.

Ed

(
ps - even if I can cobble together, say berkeleydb which builds native in mingw 
 right
now, how does -mno-cygwin benefit from all the work that the mingw team has done 
 in
making the native windows port of cygwin work?
)


What are you talking about?  You would be better off testing out some of 
this before posting these musings.  You'd find the answers allot quicker 
and learn much along the way.



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Re: merging mingw and cygwin

2003-10-12 Thread Paul G.

Does the author of this reply have a problem with someone else knowing what they are 
talking about?

On 12 Oct 2003 at 0:36, Christopher Faylor wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 09:16:41PM -0700, Paul G. wrote:
 Msys is derived from Cygwin.  However, it does not have the overhead
 that Cygwin does, nor does Msys support the posix/unixy stuff that
 Cygwin does...nor should it.
 
 You keep saying overhead as if you know what you're talking about.

Fancy that...had it occurred to the author of this reply that maybe, just 
maybe I do...?  I doubt it, otherwise the 
author of this reply wouldn't need to ask such dumb questions or make such 
implications in terms of my knowledge 
and background in computer science, something the author of this reply is already, at 
least I had thought the author 
of this post was, well aware of...

 Either be more precise or stop making vague statements.

*sigh* Guess you need me to clarify something, as if the author of that last statment 
didn't already know what I was 
talking about ...especially considering how long the author of that last statement 
have been aware of my presence 
here and my contributions, what contributions do exist, to Cygwin...*sigh*

Ok, looks like I have to spell it out -- I had hoped I wouldn't be placed in a 
position to do this, especially where this 
sort of thing is concerned...as I assume that most people here are intelligent enough 
and know what I am talking 
about without me having to spend time and energy spelling everything out that I 
state...guess everyone will have to 
deal with the excessive length of this particular post...

Now, please, pay particular attention to the computer science definitions (school is 
in):

COMMAND PROCESSING OVERHEAD TIME
WordNet Dictionary
 
Definition: [n]  (computer science) the processing time required 
by a device (or codec, or API) 
prior to the execution of a command
 
Synonyms:   command overhead, command processing overhead, overhead
 
See Also:   access time, processing time

ACCESS TIME
Pronunciation:  'akses tIm

WordNet Dictionary
 
Definition: [n]  (computer science) the interval between the time 
data is requested by the 
system and the time the data is provided by the drive; access time is the sum of seek 
time and rotational latency and 
command processing overhead
 
See Also:   command overhead, command processing overhead, command 
processing 
overhead time, interval, latency, overhead, rotational latency, seek time, time 
interval
 
Computing Dictionary
 
Definition: 

The average time interval between a storage peripheral (usually a disk drive or 
semiconductor memory) receiving a 
request to read or write a certain location and returning the value read or completing 
the write.
 
See Also:   hardware, storage

PROCESSING TIME
WordNet Dictionary
 
Definition: [n]  the time it takes to complete a prescribed 
procedure; they increased output by 
decreasing processing time
 
See Also:   command overhead, command processing overhead, command 
processing 
overhead time, interval, overhead, time interval

OVERHEAD
Pronunciation:  owvur'hed

Matching Terms: Overhead charges, overhead cover, overhead projector, 
overhead railway, 
overhear, overheat, overheated, overheating, Overheavy

WordNet Dictionary
 
Definition: 

   1. [n]  a hard return hitting the tennis ball above your head
   2. [n]  (nautical) the top surface of an enclosed space on a ship
   3. [n]  a transparency for use with an overhead projector
   4. [n]  (computer science) the disk space required for non-data information (used 
for location and timing)
   5. [n]  the expense of maintaining property (e.g., paying property taxes and 
utilities and insurance); it does not 
include depreciation or the cost of financing or income taxes
   6. [n]  (computer science) the processing time required by a device (or an API) 
prior to the execution of a command
   7. [adv]  above the head; over the head; bring the legs together overhead
   8. [adv]  above your head; in the sky; planes were flying overhead
   9. [adj]  located or originating from above; an overhead crossing

 
Synonyms:   budget items, command overhead, command processing 
overhead, command 
processing overhead time, disk overhead, elevated, operating cost, operating expense, 
smash, viewgraph
 
Antonyms:   subsurface, surface
 
See Also:   access time, cabin, ceiling, disbursal, disbursement, 
disc space, disk space, 
expense, foil, operating budget, processing time, return, transparency

(school is out)

 
 Msys does do posix translations.

No one, absolutely no one is arguing that point, except possibly the author of 
this reply.  That Msys doesn't 
have the posix

Re: merging mingw and cygwin

2003-10-12 Thread Paul G.



On 12 Oct 2003 at 15:41, Edward Peschko wrote:

  to support just gcc.  Everyone does not want all of the 600+
  megabytes of Cygwin just because they want a C++ compiler (or C, or
  FORTRAN).  That is why some good, open source IDE's for C/C++ use
  MingW as part of their full installation.  No fuss, no muss,
  relatively lightweight download.
  
  Wayne Keen
  
 Right.. all good points, but all minor barriers to overcome. All you
 would have to do is put an 'install mingw subset' button on setup.exe,
 and it would well, install a mingw subset and put cygwin in 'mingw
 mode'. 
 
 It sure would beat the install process for mingw right now, which is a
 manual horror right now involving the download and installation of
 several, separate packages in different directories.

Umm..you might want to mention this on the Mingw users list...though it 
appears you haven't looked at the 
files that are available for download there (in terms of Mingw), specifically 
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435.

If you want to upgrade or use the latest Mingw stuff/downloads, then you may 
have to deal with the 
consequences...but that is entirely up to you...and, as for Mingw, on this list, is 
for the most part OT here.  Cygwin 
docs will tell you what is included and/or necessary when you select or expect to use 
gcc-mingw from the Cygwin 
setup.exe.

 
 If, of course -mno-cygwin == mingw, which I'm going through right now.

As noted previously in other replies to this thread, what is provided (in 
terms of Mingw) within the Cygwin 
development environment is not the complete Mingw distribution, nor should it or does 
it need to be.  If you want the 
latest Mingw release, then take a look at the link noted above.

Paul G.

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Re: merging mingw and cygwin

On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 04:47:18PM -0700, Paul G. wrote:
On 12 Oct 2003 at 15:41, Edward Peschko wrote:
It sure would beat the install process for mingw right now, which is a
manual horror right now involving the download and installation of
several, separate packages in different directories.

Umm..you might want to mention this on the Mingw users list...though it
appears you haven't looked at the files that are available for download
there (in terms of Mingw), specifically
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435.

He already mentioned this in the mingw-users mailing list.  He's started
several threads there.
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Re: merging mingw and cygwin

2003-10-12 Thread Paul G.



On 12 Oct 2003 at 20:10, Christopher Faylor wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 04:47:18PM -0700, Paul G. wrote:
 On 12 Oct 2003 at 15:41, Edward Peschko wrote:
 It sure would beat the install process for mingw right now, which is
 a manual horror right now involving the download and installation of
 several, separate packages in different directories.
 
 Umm..you might want to mention this on the Mingw users list...though
 it appears you haven't looked at the files that are available for
 download there (in terms of Mingw), specifically
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435.
 
 He already mentioned this in the mingw-users mailing list. ]

No, he has not said anything about manual horror.  He has, however, stated 
that the download and use of a 
specific Mingw distribution was simple and easy.

 He's
 started several threads there.

Yes, he has.

Is there some reason why something having to do with Mingw is important for 
this list aside from the -mno-
cygwin related issues or questions?

Paul G.

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results of compiling berkeleydb


Ok, I did as requested, and tried to compile berkeleydb with -mno-cygwin. Results are
below, along with some thoughts/reflections

Ed


general nitpicks:


'which' returns /cygdrive/c form instead of C:\... no way of switching

doesn't play well with applications outside of cygwin (for example:
touch  /tmp/2
gvim (native windows executable) /tmp/2

returns 'file not found'. need to prefix it with gvim 'C:/cygwin/tmp/2' assuming
installed in C:\cygwin. (both sh and tcsh have this problem.)

directory softlinks as .lnk files, not as junctions. Can't 'cd' into a link, various
windows programs have problems with reading the softlink. Make 'softlink == hardlink' 
on
NT/2000/xp systems?

(softlinks as '.lnk', yes I know there is an option to disable this, but this should be
IMO default as windows xp/2000/nt have *good* links.)

form of 'grep dropped -r .' does not work, need to use form 'grep -r mingw .'

clipboard seems to be malfunctioning, text cannot be copied to it.


compiling berkeleydb:


trying to port berkeleydb as mingw

./configure --prefix=/install/berkeleydb --build=i686-pc-mingw32

compiles fine, does not invoke -mno-cygwin.

objdump -p ./db_recover.exe | grep DLL Name

gives 

DLL Name: cygwin1.dll
DLL Name: KERNEL32.dll


make realclean
rm config.cache

./configure --prefix=/install/berkeleydb --build=i686-pc-mingw32 
--target=i686-pc-mingw32

objdump -p ./db_recover.exe | grep DLL Name

gives 

DLL Name: cygwin1.dll
DLL Name: KERNEL32.dll


Ok, so berkeleydb's configure process knows nothing about -mno-cygwin,

grep no-cygwin -r .
-r: No such file or directory

oops, make that:

grep -r no-cygwin .
./aclocal/libtool.ac: *-*-cygwin*/gcc*-mno-cygwin*|*-*-mingw*)

hmm. libtool has something, at least the .ac file (which I'm assuming is the 
template and is not the one being used in the compilation)

So, I'll add it manually to the Makefile:

edit Makefile inside dist = add LDFLAGS == -mno-cygwin

hmm. Errors:

db_archive.o(.text+0x2c1): db_archive.c: undefined reference to 'errno')
db_archive.o(.text+02d2):db_archive.c: undefined reference to 'getreent'

...
...


hmm. missing symbols. Looks like  the mingw32 runtime 
libraries are missing, so I search the net and see
'http://www.delorie.com/howto/cygwin/mno-cygwin-howto.html'

and find:

 ... undefined reference to ___errno'

 Ouch! what went wrong here? Its such a trivial piece of code.. The problem here is 
 that
 the Cygwin development tools provide *only* the Mingw32 C runtime libraries


..and goes on to mention the prickly nature of mingw and cygwin having 
either the same file _G_config.h with differences or when Cygwin has a file 
that mingw32 doesn't.


As of now, it looks like even these have been removed because berkeley db is a 
c program, but for now I go to the net and install:

MinGW-3.1.0-1.exe

into C:\mingw, and:

vim Makefile

edit, add: 

CPPFLAGS= -I/cygdrive/c/mingw/include ..
LDFLAGS = -L/cygdrive/c/mingw/lib ..

make clean

make:

argh. more errors:

db.h:90: error: parse error before db_pgno_t
db.h:90: warning: data definition has no type or storage class.



At this point, I probably would throw up my hands, and head for mingw instead and
indeed have two separate development environments.

Since this is just a C program, the problems that I would get from a C++ program
or a fortran one would probably be more severe. 



benefits of integrated mingw and cygwin


Now, if mingw and cygwin were *truly* integrated, I would only have to say:


[EMAIL PROTECTED](...db-4.1.25/dist) % setenv MINGW 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED](...db-4.1.25/dist) % ./configure --prefix=/install/berkeleydb


checking build system type... i686-pc-mingw32
checking host system type... i686-pc-mingw32


[EMAIL PROTECTED](...db-4.1.25/dist) % make
[EMAIL PROTECTED](...db-4.1.25/dist) % make install


The people who make berkeleydb configure would not need to know that you 
are cross-compiling and they need not know -mno-cygwin because it would be 
implicit in everything that gcc, ld, etc. does. config.guess would return
'pc-mingw32' in MINGW mode.

Furthermore, as part of what the MINGW switch does, it would disable 
all headers and libraries in the cygwin tree so such errors as 'picking 
up the wrong _G_config.h' and 'in no-cygwin mode: picking up a file that 
exists in cygwin' would go away.

This would allow for better error handling - as the errors would always be 
pointing to the 'right place'.

And:

a) you could make the MINGW version of the utilities act in a more
   win32 way, getting rid of a lot of annoyances as listed above.

b) you'd get a lot of testing and bugfixing of the merged software 
   from existing mingw users.  

c) people would be able to use all the unix tools (screen, vim, 
   emacs, grep, etc) to develop these native Win32 apps in a 
   coherent package.

d) the inefficiencies in supporting two separate projects which 
   basically

Re: merging mingw and cygwin

 Umm..you might want to mention this on the Mingw users list...though it
 appears you haven't looked at the files that are available for download
 there (in terms of Mingw), specifically
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435.
 
 He already mentioned this in the mingw-users mailing list.  He's started
 several threads there.

jeez. its weird hearing about yourself in the 3rd person, talking about things
you've done in another incarnation. 

feels very odd.. :-)

Ed

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multiple consoles in one window

2003-10-12 Thread bob

Is there any way to have more than one console session available in one 
rxvt (or dos) window?  I am thinking of the konsole that I used back 
when linux was an option. 



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Re: multiple consoles in one window

On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 07:24:29PM -0600, bob wrote:
 Is there any way to have more than one console session available in one 
 rxvt (or dos) window?  I am thinking of the konsole that I used back 
 when linux was an option. 

yes, you can use 'screen'... as of v 4.0.1, screen supports multiple consoles 
on cygwin. It took a couple of small mods to compile, but its worth it...

Ed

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Re: merging mingw and cygwin

2003-10-12 Thread Larry Hall

At 08:56 PM 10/12/2003, Paul G. you wrote:


On 12 Oct 2003 at 20:10, Christopher Faylor wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 04:47:18PM -0700, Paul G. wrote:
 On 12 Oct 2003 at 15:41, Edward Peschko wrote:
 It sure would beat the install process for mingw right now, which is
 a manual horror right now involving the download and installation of
 several, separate packages in different directories.
 
 Umm..you might want to mention this on the Mingw users list...though
 it appears you haven't looked at the files that are available for
 download there (in terms of Mingw), specifically
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435.
 
 He already mentioned this in the mingw-users mailing list. ]

No, he has not said anything about manual horror.  He has, however, stated that 
 the download and use of a 
specific Mingw distribution was simple and easy.

 He's
 started several threads there.

Yes, he has.

Is there some reason why something having to do with Mingw is important for this 
 list aside from the -mno-
cygwin related issues or questions?


No.



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RE: Cygwin setup stopped @99%

2003-10-12 Thread luke . kendall

On 12 Oct, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote:
  Your problem is well known, 

Yes, we've started having this problem here, since last week.

I just wanted to check the mailing list before I tried the obvious fix.

So, I can confirm that yes, the cygpath -A -P just hangs, that it can
be run manually from either a bash shell or from a DOS prompt without
hanging, and that the shell script in /usr/X11R6/bin can be run
manually and it won't hang.

I also noticed that /etc/postinstall/XFree86-bin-icons.sh is an sh-shell
script, and it calls the /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86-bin-icons.sh bash
script.

I also noticed that the latter script has a space between the #! and
the /bin/bash on its first line.

But those things aren't enough to explain the problem; I'd have to say
I'm mystified as to why it's happening.

Knowing the workaround is enough for now.  I've just changed our
installation instructions to add a series of manual steps:

   When the installation process freezes at 99% saying it is
   running /etc/postinstall/XFree86-bin-icons.sh, do this:

   1) Start a DOS shell.
   2) Type:
C:\cygwin\bin\bash
   3) Type
/etc/postinstall/XFree86-bin-icons.sh
   4) Type:
ps ax
   5) Find the line that shows cygpath, and get the leftmost number.
   6) Type:
kill -9 that-number
   7) Click back on the Cygwin setup window and wait for it to continue,
  completing the installation process.

luke


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Reinstatement?

2003-10-12 Thread David A. Cobb

Chris,
   After two months without a connection -- and with serious withdrawal 
symptoms -- I am back hanging from the wires.  I'm sure I've been 
suspended because of the bounces when I first failed.  Would you kindly 
reset my list memberships to active?  Thanks!

David A. Cobb



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RE: Can't build cygwin from CVS: configure error

2003-10-12 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle

[snip]
 Once again, I'm not *trying* to get you into this mood.

Chris pretty much lives in that mood.

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Re: Reinstatement?

On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 12:04:57AM -0400, David A. Cobb wrote:
After two months without a connection -- and with serious withdrawal
symptoms -- I am back hanging from the wires.  I'm sure I've been
suspended because of the bounces when I first failed.  Would you kindly
reset my list memberships to active?  Thanks!

If you have been unsubscribed, resubscribe.  You don't need to invoke a
personal intervention for this kind of thing.  That's what computers are
for.

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Re: results of compiling berkeleydb

On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 06:03:44PM -0700, Edward Peschko wrote:
Ok, I did as requested, and tried to compile berkeleydb with
-mno-cygwin.  Results are below, along with some
thoughts/reflections

Hint:

GCC='gcc -mno-cygwin' ./configure.

AFAICT, this won't get you a windows version of db with the unpatched
sources (since it seems like you need to use a special windows configure
script which defines DB_WIN32 to do that), but it should at least get
you closer to that goal.

The bottom line is that you were using the tools incorrectly.  Didn't
someone suggest doing more research before posting?  Sounds like good
advice to me.

cgf

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gcc -dM -E -xc /dev/null g++ -dM -E -xc /dev/null

2003-10-12 Thread Alex Vinokur

gcc -dM -E -xc /dev/null
  and
g++ -dM -E -xc /dev/null
  produce the same output.

Is this a feature or a bug?

How can one know that g++ (not gcc) is invoked?


===
Windows 2000 Professional
CYGWIN_NT-5.0 1.5.4(0.94/3/2)
gcc version 3.3.1 (cygming special)
===
--
$ gcc -dM -E -xc /dev/null

#define __DBL_MIN_EXP__ (-1021)
#define __FLT_MIN__ 1.17549435e-38F
#define _X86_ 1
#define __CHAR_BIT__ 8
#define __WCHAR_MAX__ 65535U
#define __DBL_DENORM_MIN__ 4.9406564584124654e-324
#define __FLT_EVAL_METHOD__ 2
#define __unix__ 1
#define unix 1
#define __i386__ 1
#define __SIZE_TYPE__ unsigned int
#define __DBL_MIN_10_EXP__ (-307)
#define __FINITE_MATH_ONLY__ 0
#define __GNUC_PATCHLEVEL__ 1
#define __FLT_RADIX__ 2
#define __LDBL_EPSILON__ 1.08420217248550443401e-19L
#define _stdcall __attribute__((__stdcall__))
#define __SHRT_MAX__ 32767
#define __LDBL_MAX__ 1.18973149535723176502e+4932L
#define __CYGWIN__ 1
#define __unix 1
#define __LDBL_MAX_EXP__ 16384
#define __LONG_MAX__ 2147483647L
#define __SCHAR_MAX__ 127
#define __DBL_DIG__ 15
#define __USER_LABEL_PREFIX__ _
#define __STDC_HOSTED__ 1
#define __stdcall __attribute__((__stdcall__))
#define __LDBL_MANT_DIG__ 64
#define __FLT_EPSILON__ 1.19209290e-7F
#define __tune_i686__ 1
#define __LDBL_MIN__ 3.36210314311209350626e-4932L
#define __WCHAR_TYPE__ short unsigned int
#define __FLT_DIG__ 6
#define __FLT_MAX_10_EXP__ 38
#define __INT_MAX__ 2147483647
#define __FLT_MAX_EXP__ 128
#define __DECIMAL_DIG__ 21
#define __DBL_MANT_DIG__ 53
#define __WINT_TYPE__ unsigned int
#define __GNUC__ 3
#define _cdecl __attribute__((__cdecl__))
#define __LDBL_MIN_EXP__ (-16381)
#define __LDBL_MAX_10_EXP__ 4932
#define __DBL_EPSILON__ 2.2204460492503131e-16
#define __DBL_MAX__ 1.7976931348623157e+308
#define __tune_pentiumpro__ 1
#define __fastcall __attribute__((__fastcall__))
#define _fastcall __attribute__((__fastcall__))
#define __CYGWIN32__ 1
#define __USING_SJLJ_EXCEPTIONS__ 1
#define __DBL_MAX_EXP__ 1024
#define __FLT_DENORM_MIN__ 1.40129846e-45F
#define __LONG_LONG_MAX__ 9223372036854775807LL
#define __FLT_MAX__ 3.40282347e+38F
#define __GXX_ABI_VERSION 102
#define __FLT_MIN_10_EXP__ (-37)
#define __FLT_MIN_EXP__ (-125)
#define i386 1
#define __GNUC_MINOR__ 3
#define __DBL_MAX_10_EXP__ 308
#define __LDBL_DENORM_MIN__ 3.64519953188247460253e-4951L
#define __DBL_MIN__ 2.2250738585072014e-308
#define __PTRDIFF_TYPE__ int
#define __LDBL_MIN_10_EXP__ (-4931)
#define __REGISTER_PREFIX__
#define __cdecl __attribute__((__cdecl__))
#define __LDBL_DIG__ 18
#define __NO_INLINE__ 1
#define __i386 1
#define __FLT_MANT_DIG__ 24
#define __VERSION__ 3.3.1 (cygming special)
#define __declspec(x) __attribute__((x))
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Re: gcc -dM -E -xc /dev/null g++ -dM -E -xc /dev/null