Question about SSH key for upload

2014-01-27 Thread Chris LeBlanc
Hello,

Firstly thank you Christopher Faylor for activating my SSH key for the
python-h5py package.  That worked perfectly.  I fetched these new
packages on a local Cygwin install and they work nicely.

Just one thing (I tried responding to the original SSH key mail thread
but my mails were bounced as spam): I would also like to be the
package maintainer for python3-h5py.  I sent another SSH key for
upload access email yesterday but it looks like it was missed,
probably because it looked like a duplicate email since they both had
the same SSH key.

Could you please add me (Chris LeBlanc) as the package maintainer for
python3-h5py also?

Thanks,
Chris


Re: Question about SSH key for upload

2014-01-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 01:47:41PM +1300, Chris LeBlanc wrote:
Firstly thank you Christopher Faylor for activating my SSH key for the
python-h5py package.  That worked perfectly.  I fetched these new
packages on a local Cygwin install and they work nicely.

Just one thing (I tried responding to the original SSH key mail thread
but my mails were bounced as spam): I would also like to be the
package maintainer for python3-h5py.  I sent another SSH key for
upload access email yesterday but it looks like it was missed,
probably because it looked like a duplicate email since they both had
the same SSH key.

That's not how it works.  You don't provide one ssh key per package.
If that was the case, I'd still be here adding keys for Yaakov.  What
you are allowed to upload is controlled by how you are listed in
cygwin-pkg-maint.

I've added you to cygwin-pkg-maint.

cgf


Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.15.0-2 (TEST)

2014-01-27 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 11/01/2014 21:07, Jon TURNEY wrote:
 The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution:
 
 *** xorg-server-*1.15.0-2
 
 These packages contain XWin and the other X.Org X11 servers.
 
 This is the first release of the xserver 1.15 series.  It is currently
 available as a test release, and will be made stable in approximately two
 weeks if no major regressions are reported.

These packages have been promoted from test to current.

 Please try test releases and report problems to the Cygwin/X mailing list.
 Testing helps ensure good releases!
 
 The following cygwin-specific changes have been made since 1.15.0-1:
 
 * Fix a crash which could occur when a GL client exits without deleting it's
 GL contexts
 * Don't create fbConfigs for un-accelerated pixelFormats provided by the
 generic renderer.  (This is a workaround for some GL clients ending up
 preferring them)
 
 x86:
 308bbe0a4bd012f91f4ae7deb997fdcd *xorg-server-1.15.0-2-src.tar.xz
 0bd884dc7c6b201e40d9c7dfc2ccd957 *xorg-server-1.15.0-2.tar.xz
 60f3f468736386f39b6aea8fa40c6d62 *xorg-server-common-1.15.0-2.tar.xz
 69901afd7bcac3f9dc4bac4b0b6db72c *xorg-server-debuginfo-1.15.0-2.tar.xz
 da1c755ead0fa193793efa136a6565f5 *xorg-server-devel-1.15.0-2.tar.xz
 4d538efc0388f2377d2b32c4d6205bb0 *xorg-server-dmx-1.15.0-2.tar.xz
 3bdea2a296b0c6ec392dfdb830a27473 *xorg-server-extra-1.15.0-2.tar.xz
 7bdb50170d366922d821087f87d950cb *xwinclip-1.15.0-2.tar.xz
 
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 1021f0fdf0380f558a80c0132dec005b *xorg-server-1.15.0-2-src.tar.xz
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 f96150cbf1f1e56cc2417ce088f18593 *xorg-server-dmx-1.15.0-2.tar.xz
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src/winsup/cygwin ChangeLog gendef

2014-01-27 Thread cgf
CVSROOT:/cvs/src
Module name:src
Changes by: c...@sourceware.org 2014-01-27 20:53:02

Modified files:
winsup/cygwin  : ChangeLog gendef 

Log message:
* gendef (_setjmp (x86)): Save FPU control word location in sequential
location.  Adjust sigstack save accordingly.
(_longjmp (x86)): Ditto for restore.

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http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/gendef.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.52r2=1.53



src/winsup/cygwin/release 1.7.28

2014-01-27 Thread corinna
CVSROOT:/cvs/src
Module name:src
Changes by: cori...@sourceware.org  2014-01-27 21:25:39

Modified files:
winsup/cygwin/release: 1.7.28 

Log message:


Patches:
http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/release/1.7.28.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.10r2=1.11



src/winsup/doc ChangeLog new-features.xml

2014-01-27 Thread corinna
CVSROOT:/cvs/src
Module name:src
Changes by: cori...@sourceware.org  2014-01-27 21:26:36

Modified files:
winsup/doc : ChangeLog new-features.xml 

Log message:
* new-features.xml (ov-new1.7.28): Add new section.

Patches:
http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/doc/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.468r2=1.469
http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/doc/new-features.xml.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.17r2=1.18



[ANNOUNCEMENT] New package: python-h5py-2.2.1-1

2014-01-27 Thread Chris LeBlanc
Version 2.2.1-1 of python-h5py has been uploaded for both x86 and x86_64.

The h5py package is a Pythonic interface to the HDF5 binary data format.

It lets you store huge amounts of numerical data, and easily
manipulate that data from NumPy. For example, you can slice into
multi-terabyte datasets stored on disk, as if they were real NumPy
arrays. Thousands of datasets can be stored in a single file,
categorized and tagged however you want.

H5py uses straightforward NumPy and Python metaphors, like dictionary
and NumPy array syntax. For example, you can iterate over datasets in
a file, or check out the .shape or .dtype attributes of datasets. You
don't need to know anything special about HDF5 to get started.

In addition to the easy-to-use high level interface, h5py rests on a
object-oriented Cython wrapping of the HDF5 C API. Almost anything you
can do from C in HDF5, you can do from h5py.

Best of all, the files you create are in a widely-used standard binary
format, which you can exchange with other people, including those who
use programs like IDL and MATLAB.

This version was built without support for the parallel I/O features
introduced in version 2.2.0.  For more information please visit
http://www.h5py.org.

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RE: cygcheck and literal plus sign

2014-01-27 Thread Gates, Roger

On Friday, January 24, 2014 9:26 PM Steven Penny wrote
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:05 AM, David Boyce wrote
 How about 'g[+][+]' or 'g[+]{2}'?

Please, no more lazy answers

$ cygcheck -p 'g[+][+].exe'
Found 0 matches for g[ ][ ].exe

$ ascii +
ASCII 2/11 is decimal 043, hex 2b, octal 053, bits 00101011: prints as `+'
Official name: Plus Sign
Other names: Add, Cross

$ cygcheck -p 'g\x{2b}\x{2b}.exe'
Found 11 matches for g\x{2b}\x{2b}.exe
x86/cygwin64-gcc-g++/cygwin64-gcc-g++-4.8.2-1
x86/cygwin64-gcc-g++/cygwin64-gcc-g++-4.8.2-2
x86/gcc-g++/gcc-g++-4.8.2-1
x86/gcc-g++/gcc-g++-4.8.2-2
x86/gcc4-g++/gcc4-g++-4.7.3-2
x86/mingw-gcc-g++/mingw-gcc-g++-4.5.2-1
x86/mingw-gcc-g++/mingw-gcc-g++-4.7.3-1
x86/mingw64-i686-gcc-g++/mingw64-i686-gcc-g++-4.8.2-1
x86/mingw64-i686-gcc-g++/mingw64-i686-gcc-g++-4.8.2-2
x86/mingw64-x86_64-gcc-g++/mingw64-x86_64-gcc-g++-4.8.2-1
x86/mingw64-x86_64-gcc-g++/mingw64-x86_64-gcc-g++-4.8.2-2
$

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Re: Maintainer for git?

2014-01-27 Thread Chris O'Bryan
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Steven Penny wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote
 For the time being, I've build a new OpenSSL version 1.0.1f-2 with the
 no-sse2 flag.  With this version I could clone the linx repo without
 error.  Please give it a try.

 I can confirm this fixes my problems as well


This fixed my issue, too. Good hunch on the SSE stuff!

Thanks,
Chris

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Re: octave: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

2014-01-27 Thread Paul
Marco Atzeri marco.atzeri at gmail.com writes:
On 25/01/2014 00:46, Paul wrote:
Larry Hall (Cygwin reply-to-list-only-lh at cygwin.com writes:
 Have you tried running rebaseall?
 I just tried it (http://cygwin.wikia.com/wiki/Rebaseall).  No joy.
 Mind you, I also don't have admin privileges and cygwin was
 installed when I had them.  I never noticed any error messages, but
 things went by very fast.  The last screen full of things rebased
 showed no error messages.
 
 I bet on a PATH issue. likely /usr/lib/lapack in not on it when you
 start bash -i .
 
 As normally it works on your system, try with bash -l

Achim Gratz Stromeko at nexgo.de writes:
 I'm almost certain that Octave can't find its lapack libraries.  The
 standard profile scripts add this to the very end of the path and
 depending on what is in your windows path you may hide them.  There
 are also two environment variables (sorry, can't check right now)
 that need to be set for lapack to be happy and you may not source
 the /etc/profile.d script that sets them depending on how you start
 bash.

Yes, the lack of /usr/lib/lapack was in fact causing the problem.  I'm not 
sure why I didn't catch that as I was certain that I made the paths the 
same in both cases.

Thanks!


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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: libvorbis-1.3.4-1

2014-01-27 Thread David Rothenberger
A new version of the libvorbis, libvorbis-devel, libvorbis0,
libvorbisenc2, and libvorbisfile3 packages are now available for
download.

DESCRIPTION:

Vorbis is a general purpose audio and music encoding format
contemporary to MPEG-4's AAC and TwinVQ, the next generation beyond
MPEG audio layer 3. Unlike the MPEG sponsored formats (and other
proprietary formats such as RealAudio G2 and Windows' flavor of the
month), the Vorbis CODEC specification belongs to the public
domain. All the technical details are published and documented, and
any software entity may make full use of the format without license
fee, royalty or patent concerns.

This package contains:

* libvorbis, a BSD-style license software implementation of
  the Vorbis specification by the Xiph.Org Foundation 
  (http://www.xiph.org/) 

* libvorbisfile, a BSD-style license convenience library
  built on Vorbis designed to simplify common uses

* libvorbisenc, a BSD-style license library that provides a simple,
  programmatic encoding setup interface 

QUESTIONS:
==
If you want to make a point or ask a question the Cygwin mailing list is
the appropriate place.

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Re: cygcheck and literal plus sign

2014-01-27 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 1/27/2014 10:47 AM, Gates, Roger wrote:


$ ascii +
ASCII 2/11 is decimal 043, hex 2b, octal 053, bits 00101011: prints as `+'
Official name: Plus Sign
Other names: Add, Cross

$ cygcheck -p 'g\x{2b}\x{2b}.exe'
Found 11 matches for g\x{2b}\x{2b}.exe


But of course, everyone knows that! ;-)

Thanks Roger for providing this useful bit of info.

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Re: cygwin64 - installation problem - installed by administrator account

2014-01-27 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 1/27/2014 1:29 AM, Flower, Martin wrote:

Please excuse my newby-ignorance, but I can't work out how to progress
this without some help

Steps taken
- Downloaded setup-x86_64.exe
- Run setup-x86_64.exe using admflma (administrator account)
- Logged in as netflma (my usual windows login)
- Unable to start Cygwin from desktop icon
   - unable to find mintty.exe
- Able to start Cygwin from command line
   - (C:\cygwin64\Cygwin.bat)
- Error message is Your group is currently mkpasswd .. ..
- mkpasswd -l   /etc/passwd
   - bash: /etc/passwd: Permission denied
- drwxr-xr-x+ 1 admflma mkpasswd  0 22 jan 13.39 etc
- If I run the console as user admflma, then no errors are reported
- Log in to windows as admflma and start Cygwin from desktop icon
   - unable to find mintty.exe
- The objective is that any user on the computer can run Cygwin, but
  particularly netflma (user without admin rights)
- My guess is that the windows permissions are wrong for C:\cygwin64. I
   have attempted to give all rights to all users, but this has not
  solved the problem


Can you *attach* the output of 'cygrunsrv -srv' to a follow-up
mail with the output of 'id'?


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Re: Maintainer for git?

2014-01-27 Thread David Conrad
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Chris O'Bryan wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Steven Penny wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote
 For the time being, I've build a new OpenSSL version 1.0.1f-2 with the
 no-sse2 flag.  With this version I could clone the linx repo without
 error.  Please give it a try.

 I can confirm this fixes my problems as well


 This fixed my issue, too. Good hunch on the SSE stuff!


With the new OpenSSL from Corinna I was able to clone both the linux
and ffmpeg repos with Adam's latest git-1.8.5.2.

Many thanks to Corinna, Adam, and all those who have tested this. I
hope to see a new git on the mirrors soon!

Cheers,
David

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Re: Maintainer for git?

2014-01-27 Thread Balaji Venkataraman
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Adam Dinwoodie wrote:

 I was previously managing to reproduce this, but since updating to
 Corinna's latest OpenSSL builds, I've not had any issues.  Is it
 possibly an out-of-date library hanging around in memory?  Have you
 tried restarting all your Cygwin processes and/or rebooting your system?
 I'm surprised Corinna's changes would fix it for me but not for you.

Based on the above, I went back and checked if the openssl update was
all good. Not quite. Apparently, since I had sshd running when I
updated the openssl package, looks like the cygcrypto-1.0.0.dll was
not properly replaced. I ended up w/ a .new file (created by
setup.exe(?)). I killed sshd renamed the .dll and reran the clone. It
seems to work (see below) except for one error but I do have a clone
now. It might be a good idea to perhaps print some warning messages
when updating packages whose dlls are in use - unless that is already
happening and I have missed them. But overall, the fix seems to do the
trick. Thanks again to all.

x86$ git clone 
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git
linux
Cloning into 'linux'...
remote: Counting objects: 3408476, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (517865/517865), done.
Receiving objects: 100% (3408476/3408476), 712.95 MiB | 460.00 KiB/s, done.
remote: Total 3408476 (delta 2869731), reused 3400091 (delta 2861452)
Resolving deltas: 100% (2869731/2869731), done.
Checking connectivity... done.
error: git-remote-https died of signal 13
Checking out files: 100% (45625/45625), done.

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Re: cygcheck and literal plus sign

2014-01-27 Thread Steven Penny
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Gates, Roger wrote
 $ ascii +

It should be noted that ascii is not included with a base install, and part of
the ascii package

 $ cygcheck -p 'g\x{2b}\x{2b}.exe'

it should be further noted that the braces are not necessary in this instance

$ cygcheck -p 'g\x2b\x2b.exe'
Found 9 matches for g\x2b\x2b.exe
x86_64/cygwin32-gcc-g++/cygwin32-gcc-g++-4.8.2-1
x86_64/cygwin32-gcc-g++/cygwin32-gcc-g++-4.8.2-2
x86_64/gcc-g++/gcc-g++-4.8.1-3
x86_64/gcc-g++/gcc-g++-4.8.2-1
x86_64/mingw-gcc-g++/mingw-gcc-g++-4.7.3-1
x86_64/mingw64-i686-gcc-g++/mingw64-i686-gcc-g++-4.8.1-2
x86_64/mingw64-i686-gcc-g++/mingw64-i686-gcc-g++-4.8.2-1
x86_64/mingw64-x86_64-gcc-g++/mingw64-x86_64-gcc-g++-4.8.1-2
x86_64/mingw64-x86_64-gcc-g++/mingw64-x86_64-gcc-g++-4.8.2-1

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Re: Maintainer for git?

2014-01-27 Thread Balaji Venkataraman
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Balaji Venkataraman wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Adam Dinwoodie wrote:

 I was previously managing to reproduce this, but since updating to
 Corinna's latest OpenSSL builds, I've not had any issues.  Is it
 possibly an out-of-date library hanging around in memory?  Have you
 tried restarting all your Cygwin processes and/or rebooting your system?
 I'm surprised Corinna's changes would fix it for me but not for you.

 Based on the above, I went back and checked if the openssl update was
 all good. Not quite. Apparently, since I had sshd running when I
 updated the openssl package, looks like the cygcrypto-1.0.0.dll was
 not properly replaced. I ended up w/ a .new file (created by
 setup.exe(?)). I killed sshd renamed the .dll and reran the clone. It
 seems to work (see below) except for one error but I do have a clone
 now. It might be a good idea to perhaps print some warning messages
 when updating packages whose dlls are in use - unless that is already
 happening and I have missed them. But overall, the fix seems to do the
 trick. Thanks again to all.

 x86$ git clone 
 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git
 linux
 Cloning into 'linux'...
 remote: Counting objects: 3408476, done.
 remote: Compressing objects: 100% (517865/517865), done.
 Receiving objects: 100% (3408476/3408476), 712.95 MiB | 460.00 KiB/s, done.
 remote: Total 3408476 (delta 2869731), reused 3400091 (delta 2861452)
 Resolving deltas: 100% (2869731/2869731), done.
 Checking connectivity... done.
 error: git-remote-https died of signal 13
 Checking out files: 100% (45625/45625), done.

I did a very quick search on the git-remote-https error and I found a
recent thread[1]. Hoping someone can track it down on Cygwin too.
FWIW, I don't have curl installed - just libcurl.

cygcheck -f /usr/bin/*curl*
libcurl4-7.34.0-1

[1] 
http://git.661346.n2.nabble.com/error-git-remote-https-died-of-signal-13-td7599771.html

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Re: Maintainer for git?

2014-01-27 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Balaji Venkataraman!

 I did a very quick search on the git-remote-https error and I found a
 recent thread[1]. Hoping someone can track it down on Cygwin too.
 FWIW, I don't have curl installed - just libcurl.

libcurl IS THE cURL. The library. The curl you are referring to is just a
console front-end to it.

 cygcheck -f /usr/bin/*curl*
 libcurl4-7.34.0-1


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Re: Maintainer for git?

2014-01-27 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 1/27/2014 5:30 PM, Balaji Venkataraman wrote:

On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Adam Dinwoodie wrote:


I was previously managing to reproduce this, but since updating to
Corinna's latest OpenSSL builds, I've not had any issues.  Is it
possibly an out-of-date library hanging around in memory?  Have you
tried restarting all your Cygwin processes and/or rebooting your system?
I'm surprised Corinna's changes would fix it for me but not for you.


Based on the above, I went back and checked if the openssl update was
all good. Not quite. Apparently, since I had sshd running when I
updated the openssl package, looks like the cygcrypto-1.0.0.dll was
not properly replaced. I ended up w/ a .new file (created by
setup.exe(?)).


Yes, this is what setup*.exe does if the DLL it's trying to replace is
in use.  setup*.exe will warn you about such cases and ask if you want
to continue (and have to reboot to complete the installation) or if you
prefer to kill the app using the DLL.  You apparently missed that and
ended up with the former option.


I killed sshd renamed the .dll and reran the clone. It
seems to work (see below) except for one error but I do have a clone
now.


FYI, this is not the recommended way to handle this, since it leaves
a scheduled DLL move on reboot in an unpredictable state.  So if you
see a DLL with this extension in the future, just reboot.


It might be a good idea to perhaps print some warning messages
when updating packages whose dlls are in use - unless that is already
happening and I have missed them.


Right, see above.


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Re: cygwin64 - installation problem - installed by administrator account

2014-01-27 Thread Mark Geisert
 Can you *attach* the output of 'cygrunsrv -srv' to a follow-up
 mail with the output of 'id'?

That should read 'cygcheck -srv'.  Everything else still applies.

..mark


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New package: python-h5py-2.2.1-1

2014-01-27 Thread Chris LeBlanc
Version 2.2.1-1 of python-h5py has been uploaded for both x86 and x86_64.

The h5py package is a Pythonic interface to the HDF5 binary data format.

It lets you store huge amounts of numerical data, and easily
manipulate that data from NumPy. For example, you can slice into
multi-terabyte datasets stored on disk, as if they were real NumPy
arrays. Thousands of datasets can be stored in a single file,
categorized and tagged however you want.

H5py uses straightforward NumPy and Python metaphors, like dictionary
and NumPy array syntax. For example, you can iterate over datasets in
a file, or check out the .shape or .dtype attributes of datasets. You
don't need to know anything special about HDF5 to get started.

In addition to the easy-to-use high level interface, h5py rests on a
object-oriented Cython wrapping of the HDF5 C API. Almost anything you
can do from C in HDF5, you can do from h5py.

Best of all, the files you create are in a widely-used standard binary
format, which you can exchange with other people, including those who
use programs like IDL and MATLAB.

This version was built without support for the parallel I/O features
introduced in version 2.2.0.  For more information please visit
http://www.h5py.org.

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Updated: libvorbis-1.3.4-1

2014-01-27 Thread David Rothenberger
A new version of the libvorbis, libvorbis-devel, libvorbis0,
libvorbisenc2, and libvorbisfile3 packages are now available for
download.

DESCRIPTION:

Vorbis is a general purpose audio and music encoding format
contemporary to MPEG-4's AAC and TwinVQ, the next generation beyond
MPEG audio layer 3. Unlike the MPEG sponsored formats (and other
proprietary formats such as RealAudio G2 and Windows' flavor of the
month), the Vorbis CODEC specification belongs to the public
domain. All the technical details are published and documented, and
any software entity may make full use of the format without license
fee, royalty or patent concerns.

This package contains:

* libvorbis, a BSD-style license software implementation of
  the Vorbis specification by the Xiph.Org Foundation 
  (http://www.xiph.org/) 

* libvorbisfile, a BSD-style license convenience library
  built on Vorbis designed to simplify common uses

* libvorbisenc, a BSD-style license library that provides a simple,
  programmatic encoding setup interface 

QUESTIONS:
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