Re: gawk 4.1.4: CR separate char for CRLF files

2017-08-10 Thread Steven Penny

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:48:47, Brian Inglis wrote:

Many archives and sites display lines off the right margin instead of allowing
them to wrap as normal in HTML. Possibly using pre format style without
horizontal scrollbars instead of just specifying a monospace font style. That
makes it a site or converter design issue!


Nope. Wrong. David has been doing this for over 2 years:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2015-01/msg00232.html

So it is a user issue. The user must hard wrap because Cygwin site does not.
When he knowingly disregards this he does it to the detriment of all users of
the archives.


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Re: gawk 4.1.4: CR separate char for CRLF files

2017-08-10 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2017-08-10 15:49, cyg Simple wrote:
> On 8/10/2017 5:34 PM, Brian Inglis wrote:
>>>
>>> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2017-08/msg00104.html
>>
>> It is flowed format with quoted breaks, which I see reassembled and wrapped 
>> in
>> the window by Thunderbird with no issues:

> So what setting do I have that is causing me to not see it.  Every mail
> David sends displays as empty for me.

Enable/set wrap settings in config editor, and in Tools/Options/Composition
tab/Send Options... button check Text format Send message as plain text if
possible checkbox/select Convert the message to plain text dropdown; add
cygwin.com and sourceware.org in Plain text domains tab.

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Re: gawk 4.1.4: CR separate char for CRLF files

2017-08-10 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2017-08-10 16:22, Steven Penny wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 15:34:11, Brian Inglis wrote:
>> It is flowed format with quoted breaks, which I see reassembled and wrapped 
>> in
>> the window by Thunderbird with no issues:
> 
> Thats great, but it doesnt do that with Firefox, and it doesnt do that with
> Internet Explorer. So for people reading the mailing list via the archives
> (read: me), each line just scrolls off the page until OP decides to break for 
> a
> paragraph.

Many archives and sites display lines off the right margin instead of allowing
them to wrap as normal in HTML. Possibly using pre format style without
horizontal scrollbars instead of just specifying a monospace font style. That
makes it a site or converter design issue!

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Re: gawk 4.1.4: CR separate char for CRLF files

2017-08-10 Thread Steven Penny

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 15:34:11, Brian Inglis wrote:

It is flowed format with quoted breaks, which I see reassembled and wrapped in
the window by Thunderbird with no issues:


Thats great, but it doesnt do that with Firefox, and it doesnt do that with
Internet Explorer. So for people reading the mailing list via the archives
(read: me), each line just scrolls off the page until OP decides to break for a
paragraph.


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Re: gawk 4.1.4: CR separate char for CRLF files

2017-08-10 Thread cyg Simple
On 8/10/2017 5:34 PM, Brian Inglis wrote:
>>
>> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2017-08/msg00104.html
> 
> It is flowed format with quoted breaks, which I see reassembled and wrapped in
> the window by Thunderbird with no issues:
> 

So what setting do I have that is causing me to not see it.  Every mail
David sends displays as empty for me.

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Re: gawk 4.1.4: CR separate char for CRLF files

2017-08-10 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2017-08-10 12:35, Steven Penny wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:45:34, cyg Simple wrote:
>> David, I don't know what it is about your email that my thunderbird
>> client doesn't like but I can't read your email except from reviewing
>> the message source.
> 
> Hes using quoted-printable, but he is not actually breaking on 80, so it just
> comes out as one long line. Really annoying, and I usually wont even reads 
> posts
> from people who do that. Here is an example:
> 
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2017-08/msg00104.html

It is flowed format with quoted breaks, which I see reassembled and wrapped in
the window by Thunderbird with no issues:

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> Content-Language: en-US
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
...
> I feel the need to correct you slightly.  Although Linux is a good model, C=
> ygwin primarily strives to be a good *POSIX* platform, so there may be case=
> s where the two intentionally differ.

displays as:

I feel the need to correct you slightly.  Although Linux is a good model, Cygwin
primarily strives to be a good *POSIX* platform, so there may be cases where the
two intentionally differ.

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Re: gawk 4.1.4: CR separate char for CRLF files

2017-08-10 Thread Steven Penny

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:45:34, cyg Simple wrote:

David, I don't know what it is about your email that my thunderbird
client doesn't like but I can't read your email except from reviewing
the message source.


Hes using quoted-printable, but he is not actually breaking on 80, so it just
comes out as one long line. Really annoying, and I usually wont even reads posts
from people who do that. Here is an example:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2017-08/msg00104.html


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Re: Errors on installing additional packages

2017-08-10 Thread Achim Gratz
Blaesse, Michael writes:
> I used Cygwin 1.7 32 bit installed on a network drive on Windows 7
> client for more than a year. Since a few weeks I get similar error
> messages like the ones below trying to install additional packages
> with the corresponding setup.exe.  Thus, I did a fresh install of
> Cygwin 2.8 64 bit with the setup-x86_64.exe downloaded on August 3,
> 2017 in a new directory on the network drive (as I did already several
> times with older versions).  Running the setup again, really all
> packages are marked with "Skip". If I select one for installation or
> just go on I get the error massages below. According to the attached
> output of cygcheck eg bzip2 is installed (computer name, username and
> groups from ADS replaced or removed).

Well, it looks like your network drive doesn't actually let you change
the DACL, or rather just some parts of it; or it has very peculiar
default DACL settings that don't quite mesh with Cygwin.  The result is
that when Cygwin tries to set up the POSIX permissions it actually locks
you out from reading that file or directory.

> How could I get setup to run correctly again?

You should either use a local disk, a different network share or get the
share you're using correctly configured.  If you can remove all
inheritable DACL on the installation directory before you attempt to
install anything and assume ownership and full control, that would be
worth a try.


Regards,
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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: the_silver_searcher v2.0.0-1

2017-08-10 Thread Adam Dinwoodie
Version 2.0.0-1 of Ag / The Silver Searcher has been uploaded and should
be coming soon to a mirror near you.

This is an update to the latest upstream release.

The Silver Searcher is a code searching tool based off Ack, with a focus
on speed.  See https://geoff.greer.fm/ag/ for more information.

Enjoy!

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Updated: the_silver_searcher v2.0.0-1

2017-08-10 Thread Adam Dinwoodie
Version 2.0.0-1 of Ag / The Silver Searcher has been uploaded and should
be coming soon to a mirror near you.

This is an update to the latest upstream release.

The Silver Searcher is a code searching tool based off Ack, with a focus
on speed.  See https://geoff.greer.fm/ag/ for more information.

Enjoy!

Adam


Re: Does mintty allow keyboard navigation / search and text selection?

2017-08-10 Thread Thomas Wolff

Am 10.08.2017 um 16:09 schrieb Oleksandr Gavenko:

Is it possible to navigate across mintty buffer? Like in less but in line
oriented move.

I like to have search and copy-paste.

Search: Alt+F3
Copy: click and drag mouse


screen and tmux allow this but I have no practice of using them.

Shift+PgUp/PgDown are too limiting.




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Re: gawk 4.1.4: CR separate char for CRLF files

2017-08-10 Thread cyg Simple


On 8/10/2017 8:31 AM, David Macek wrote:

David, I don't know what it is about your email that my thunderbird
client doesn't like but I can't read your email except from reviewing
the message source.  Your assumption that Cygwin strives to be a good
*POSIX* platform also applies to Linux.  If you find a difference then
there is a discrepancy that should be documented or resolved.  However,
you should determine if you need to resolve the difference if you're on
differing platforms.  So my statement of "if it doesn't work on Linux
but does on Cygwin" still needs to be considered because of portability
issues.

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Does mintty allow keyboard navigation / search and text selection?

2017-08-10 Thread Oleksandr Gavenko
Is it possible to navigate across mintty buffer? Like in less but in line
oriented move.

I like to have search and copy-paste.

screen and tmux allow this but I have no practice of using them.

Shift+PgUp/PgDown are too limiting.

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Re: gawk 4.1.4: CR separate char for CRLF files

2017-08-10 Thread David Macek

On 10. 8. 2017 14:04, cyg Simple wrote:

The clue here is, does it only work for this type of OS?  If yes then it
isn't portable anyway but should it be?  And does it only work on this
type of OS because of an issue that could change as a result of a fix.
Cygwin has always been and will always be a work in progress.  The rule
of thumb "does it work on Linux" should be applied to all that you do
with Cygwin.  If it only works on Cygwin and not on Linux then the
chances are, something will change.


I feel the need to correct you slightly.  Although Linux is a good model, 
Cygwin primarily strives to be a good *POSIX* platform, so there may be cases 
where the two intentionally differ.

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Re: Errors on installing additional packages

2017-08-10 Thread cyg Simple
On 8/10/2017 4:14 AM, Blaesse, Michael wrote:
> Hello,   
> 
> I used Cygwin 1.7 32 bit installed on a network drive on Windows 7 client for 
> more than a year. Since a few weeks I get similar error messages like the 
> ones below trying to install additional packages with the corresponding 
> setup.exe. 
> Thus, I did a fresh install of Cygwin 2.8 64 bit with the setup-x86_64.exe 
> downloaded on August 3, 2017 in a new directory on the network drive (as I 
> did already several times with older versions).
> Running the setup again, really all packages are marked with "Skip". If I 
> select one for installation or just go on I get the error massages below. 
> According to the attached output of cygcheck eg bzip2 is installed (computer 
> name, username and groups from ADS replaced or removed).
> 
> How could I get setup to run correctly again? Searching with Google I found 
> no working solution. I tried also different mirrors.
> 
> Best regards,
> Michael Blaeses
> 
> p.s. as Screenshots are not possible in pure text mails, I wrote most of the 
> information or error messages directly:
> 
> Resolving Depencies..
> 
> bzip2 (1.0.6-3) required by tar
> ca-certificates (2.14-1) required by libopenssl100
> groff (1.22.3-1) required by man-db
> etc.
> 
> Clicking on  "Weiter" I get: Unable to extract /etc/ -- corrupt package?
> Clicking on  "OK" I get: unable to extract /etc/postinstall/ -- corrupt 
> package?
> Clicking on  "OK" I get: 
> Unable to extract /etc/postinstall/0p_000_autorebase.dash
> The file is in use or some other error occurred..
> 
> There is no other Cygwin process running and the file is not opened by any 
> other task.
> 
> After Continue the Setup hangs installing _autorebase-001006-1, even 
> overnight.
> 
> Clicking on "exit" I get: Cannot open log file ...setup.log for writing, 
> which I do not understand as that directory has been created during the 
> installation with my account and thus should be writable. 

I would suspect BLODA, see the FAQ for what that refers to.  Also, you
have environment variables pointing to the old 1.7 32bit paths, they
could be getting in the way so you need to remove those.

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Re: gawk 4.1.4: CR separate char for CRLF files

2017-08-10 Thread cyg Simple


On 8/9/2017 3:09 PM, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 08/09/2017 06:03 AM, Eric Blake wrote:
>> On 08/09/2017 03:37 AM, Jannick wrote:
>>
>>> Which is a pretty much of a pain when there is no easy fallback solution
>>> provided in case a major change is applied.
> ...
>>> This is - to say the least - unpleasant in the light of what Cygwin claims
>>> to be, namely 'a large collection of GNU and Open Source tools which provide
>>> functionality similar to a Linux distribution on Windows' (from the top of
>>> the start website www.cygwin.com).
>>
>> On Linux, nothing strips CR automatically.  So on Cygwin, we behave the
>> same - nothing strips CR automatically on binary mounted data.
>>
>> And the fact that the change was made AND ANNOUNCED back in February,
>> but you are now only 6 months later complaining about it, is telling.
> 
> It was pointed out to me off-list that my reply can easily be mis-read
> in a much more negative tone than I intended, so I'm apologizing for
> coming across as mean (yes, I know, https://cygwin.com/acronyms/#WJM).
> I think I was trying to emphasize that complaints about the behavior
> change at the time of the change were expected (and there was indeed a
> reaction, although I was pleasantly surprised at the time that it was
> limited to just a few threads, so apparently not many people were
> negatively impacted - and that's a good thing).  But complaints about
> the behavior after six months are a bit unexpected.  But I guess not
> everyone keeps their software up-to-date on quite as frequent a
> schedule, so I shouldn't have been as surprised or reacted as harshly.
> 

I don't think you need to apologize, in fact your post stopped me from
posting similarly.

> At any rate, my advice continues to be the same: how would you deal with
> CRLF on a Linux system? That's the ideal way to also deal with it on
> Cygwin (we used to have gratuitous incompatibilities between the systems
> where the same command line on Linux did not have the same result as on
> Cygwin; but the change back in February was to get rid of those
> incompatibilities, even if it breaks scripts that were unwisely relying
> on the incompatibilities).
> 

The clue here is, does it only work for this type of OS?  If yes then it
isn't portable anyway but should it be?  And does it only work on this
type of OS because of an issue that could change as a result of a fix.
Cygwin has always been and will always be a work in progress.  The rule
of thumb "does it work on Linux" should be applied to all that you do
with Cygwin.  If it only works on Cygwin and not on Linux then the
chances are, something will change.

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