Using objdump on .obj files?

2003-01-22 Thread Brian Genisio
Hey all,

I am trying to run the binutils program 'objdump' on a windows .obj file.  I get the 
error that the file is not recognized.  Does anyone know how to use cygwin tools to 
peek inside an .obj 
object file?

Thanks,
Brian



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Debug malloc?

2002-11-08 Thread Brian Genisio
Hi all,

Is there a debug version of malloc for cygwin that I can link against?  I am trying to 
track down a sneaky memory leak.

Thanks,
Brian



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Re: multiple windows

2002-11-04 Thread Brian Genisio
H... Are you running a window manager?  It sounds like you are not. 
 Try running twm (Tiny Window Manager) before you run anything else. 
There are lots of other window managers out there, but twm is packaged 
with the XFree86 cygwin package.

Brian

Kyriakos Kachrimanis wrote:
Dear list members,

I want to start Xfree in multiple window mode. By default it starts as
single window and this causes some problems when I run the xgobi program
because several windows appear overlayed and I cannot move them aside. How
can I configure it to start in multiple windows?
My question may be too easy to bother this list, but I'm new to cygwin-xfree
and I couldn't find anything relevant on the mail archives or the user's
guide.
Thanks in advance,
Kyriakos Kachrimanis.










Re: Cygwin 1.3.9-1

2002-10-30 Thread Brian Genisio
I have the tarball of cygwin-1.3.9-1.tar.bz2 saved.  When I update my 
cygwin, I always install to a directory first, and then install from the 
directory, so I can keep up to date for all of my versions.  This system 
keeps legacy binaries around, including the said version.  Would you 
like me to send it to you offlist?

Brian

Kyo Kusanagi wrote:
Hello,im a very young programmer and I need cygwin 1.3.9-1. I can't find 
it anywhere.I need that specific version (I need it to setup a 
compiler)Could someone point me an URL where I can download it?? (Im 
using Windows 2000/XP,and also I have problems opening .bz2 files..),I 
really really really need that version. A reply would be very welcome.





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SSH Tunneling and TCP_NODELAY

2002-10-29 Thread Brian Genisio
Hi all,

I am using SSH port forwarding on a linux sshd from the Cygwin ssh.  Both sides
have version OpenSSH 3.4p1.  There is no problem with my tunneling, as I have
been using many (about 10) port forwards (server and local) for quite some time
now.

A new application has been introduced to my mix that uses the network to send
control messages at about 30 times per second.  These messages are small (4-12
bytes), but sent at a frequent rate.

If port forwarding is NOT used, the control stream is working well.  BUT, if I
send the control string through the SSH tunnel, it gets sent as bursts... for
example, the receiving application wukk get no data for 5 frames, and the 6th
frame will get all 6 frames.

This makes for a jerky control of the software.  My control program has
TCP_NODELAY set in it's ouput socket which is why it works properly.  I
_thought_ that openssh starting at version 3.1 had TCP_NODELAY set on it's
forwarded ports (my debug outputs tell me so).  None the less, the bursting
(which I believe is a cacheing at some point) still happens.

My question:

Is there something about the Cygwin version of SSH where TCP_NODELAY doesnt
work properly, or it is a stub function?  Can anyone think of a reason this is
happening?

Thanks,
Brian

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RE: SSH Tunneling and TCP_NODELAY

2002-10-29 Thread Brian Genisio
Well, more like It works fine when ssh is not in the loop, but I have a
suspicion that it has to do with the OpenSSH port in Cygwin.  It is hard to
tell at this time...  It has something to do with port forwarding and TCP
buffering at the kernel level.

Brian

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So this is a Cygwin issue and not a ssh issue (i.e. you're saying
 it works fine if the Cygwin ssh isn't in the loop)?
 
 Larry
 
 Original Message:
 -
 From: Brian Genisio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:06:37 -0800 (PST)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: SSH Tunneling and TCP_NODELAY
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am using SSH port forwarding on a linux sshd from the Cygwin ssh.  Both
 sides
 have version OpenSSH 3.4p1.  There is no problem with my tunneling, as I
 have
 been using many (about 10) port forwards (server and local) for quite some
 time
 now.
 
 A new application has been introduced to my mix that uses the network to
 send
 control messages at about 30 times per second.  These messages are small
 (4-12
 bytes), but sent at a frequent rate.
 
 If port forwarding is NOT used, the control stream is working well.  BUT,
 if I
 send the control string through the SSH tunnel, it gets sent as bursts...
 for
 example, the receiving application wukk get no data for 5 frames, and the
 6th
 frame will get all 6 frames.
 
 This makes for a jerky control of the software.  My control program has
 TCP_NODELAY set in it's ouput socket which is why it works properly.  I
 _thought_ that openssh starting at version 3.1 had TCP_NODELAY set on it's
 forwarded ports (my debug outputs tell me so).  None the less, the bursting
 (which I believe is a cacheing at some point) still happens.
 
 My question:
 
 Is there something about the Cygwin version of SSH where TCP_NODELAY doesnt
 work properly, or it is a stub function?  Can anyone think of a reason this
 is
 happening?
 
 Thanks,
 Brian
 
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Re: cx-logos

2002-04-05 Thread Brian Genisio

Yes, I like this one the best as well.  I believe it is very important to
convey that this is a port of the XFree86 software.  This logo does it well
with it's 86.  Might I suggest also incorporating some identification of
Cygwin?  There are two logos I have seen (www.cygwin.com), the one that looks
like a copyright symbol with an arrow, and the BlackAndGreen, ugly Cygwin icon.
 Possibly, you can incorporate one of those feels?

Also, have you seen the X logo? (Open the X server, and run xlogo.exe)  This is
kind of a standard X-windows protocol logo.  You might want to incorporate that
somehow.

Just my 2 cents,
Brian

--- Alexander Gottwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Saurabh Nupur wrote:
 
  http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg
 
 I like this one. 
 
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Re: Problem with Solaris

2002-03-28 Thread Brian Genisio

Take a look at your .xsession-errors file on the solaris machine AFTER your
loging fails.  There is probably something wrong with your .xinitrc or
.xsession files.  Possibly go downt to minimal files there, and try again?  But
the .xsession-errors very often will give you a hint in that case.

Brian


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Stuart
 
 Are you connecting to a Solaris 2.8 system?
 
 I have exactly the same problem on 2.8, but can connect to Solaris systems
 running 2.6 without any errors.
 
 Matthew Codd
 
 
 
  

   Stuart Gaunt   

   sgaunt@softwrightTo:  
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
   .co.uk   cc:  

   Sent by:  Subject:  Problem with
 Solaris   
   cygwin-xfree-owner 

   @cygwin.com

  

  

   27/03/02 18:31 

  

  

 
 
 
 
 I'm trying to get cygwin/xfree working using XDMCP from Solaris (on
 sparc),
 but all I get is a black screen with an egg-timer.
 
 It works fine using XDMCP from a Linux host.
 
 Using X-Win32 on the same PC works fine to Linux AND Solaris.
 
 Under X-Win32, when I first connect I get the black egg-timer window, then
 almost immediately I get the CDE login prompt.
 Under cygwin/xfree, I get the black egg timer, but no prompt.  The
 egg-timer
 follows my mouse around, so there is obviously some X stuff going on, but
 not quite enough.
 
 Any ideas ?
 
 Thanks
 Stuart
 
 
 
 
 


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RE: Please help: XDMCP connection dog-slow

2002-03-26 Thread Brian Genisio

Are you connected through dialup, or some sort of WAN?  X doesnt work too well
across long distances... even if there is a lot of bandwidth... it's a latency
thing.

B


--- Palic, Darko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you use a novell logon?
 If so I?m not sure if it is the problem, but could you try to resolve the
 names of both computers?
 Try to logon onto your linux and try to resolve the other computer name, and
 also the other way (logon on client try to resolve the linux box)
 
 best regards,
 Darko
 
  Hi,
 
  thanks for your answer. I'll mail this personally since I'm not
  sure it's of common interest for the list.
 
   how do you connect to the mandrake? Via DNS names or via IP?
 
  IP. Novell stuff (IPX) performs normally, so does ping and VNC.
  everything else (ftp, xdm) is terribly slow.
 
   Then the login appears, are tere any differences in the
  performance during
   the session?
 
  The login screen appears *very slowly* and after quite some time.
  Login, wait two minutes for your desktop (just fvwm) to appear.
  Open a terminal, wait for the window, wait for the shell. And so on ...
 
  Cheers
 
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Re: question

2002-03-14 Thread Brian Genisio

Just ask at the address you sent this to : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Mouse-click focus in X ?

2002-03-03 Thread Brian Genisio

This is all up to the Windows Manager you are using... twm doesnt have too many
options... Try IceWM, or KDE.  They have a ton of options, and you can
configure windows actions the way you want.  I *think* IceWM will do it by
default. 

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html

B



--- Lars Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do I get the MS windows-like mouse-click focus behavior in X windows? I
 want a window to become active first when I click within the window area.
 (Presently a window becomes active when I place the mouse within the
 window area.) I'm using standard Cygwin-xfree setup with twm.
 
 Thanks for any answers,
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Re: Log filling up

2002-02-26 Thread Brian Genisio

You could always redirect the log file to /dev/null ... 


--- Cary Jamison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have just installed Cygwin/X 4.2.0 from binaries and am enjoying accessing
 both my Windows (XP Pro) and Linux boxes from one machine.  However, I found
 that I cannot leave X running too long or my log fills up with the following
 message:
   winCursorOffScreen () - hmm...
 This can fill up a couple gigs worth of space overnight, when I have my
 machine locked.
 
 Is there a way to disable this message?
 
 Cary
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Re: alternate display number

2002-02-08 Thread Brian Genisio

Yes, simply modify the script you run X from to contain the command line
paramater of :N

Example : Xwin.exe :12 -ac -terminate

This exmple will start the X server as server 12 instead of the default of 0,
without access control, and terminate when the last client leaves.

Brian


--- John Bay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it possible to bring up the X server under a display number other than 0
 (e.g. ...:1.0 instead of ...:0.0)?  This would be useful for those of us
 with a home LAN talking to the internet through a router and forwarding
 incoming X traffic based on port number.
 
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Re: Integrating xwinclip support

2002-02-03 Thread Brian Genisio


 man XSetIOErrorHandler:
 
The XSetIOErrorHandler sets the fatal I/O error handler.
Xlib calls the program's supplied error handler if any
sort of system call error occurs (for example, the connec
tion to the server was lost).  This is assumed to be a
fatal condition, and the called routine should not return.
If the I/O error handler does return, the client process
exits.
   
 To avoid the return you might return via setjmp/longjmp back to the startup
 code (and maybe sleep a while before doing so)
 

I am not sure that would be the best programming practice... (I could be wrong)
 Wont that leave the IOErrorHandler function call still on the stack, causing
problems on multiple restarts of the server?  

Or does that setjmp/longjmp change the address of the return completely?  Will
that leave other calls on the stack?  If I am wrong on this, could you explain
this practice please?  I have never used such a technique, and I am curious.

Brian
   
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Blue Screen Of Death

2002-01-30 Thread Brian Genisio

Hey all,

I have been having a problem that happens every once in a while where I kill a
bunch of programs at once.  My system (Win2K) was restarting itself, until I
removed the Automatically Reboot on system failures.  Now, I was able to
capture the message :

*** Stop :  a bunch of memory addresses
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

a bunch of memory adresses - ntoskrnl.exe

The operation it is executing when this happens is a shell script with a loop
that does a kill -9 on about 10 processes.

Any ideas to why this is happening?
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Beware of party photos.

2002-01-28 Thread Brian Genisio

As for that Party Photos message that got sent to everyone... Beware that it
is a virus... It did not come from me, but I read about it this morning... Info
:

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kill -9 restarts system?

2002-01-21 Thread Brian Genisio

Hey all,

I was wondering if anyone has ever come across this... I have a script that
looks like this :

for $p in prog1 prog2 prog3 prog4 ; do

  ps | grep $p | sed 's/get_pid/kill -9 pid/' | sh

done

Essentially, this script (I cant remember what my sed stuff is, but it works)
will kill all of the processes in a list (prog1, prog2, prog3, etc).

This works well for the most part.  BUT... every once in a while, my machine
reboots itself.  It doesnt happen very often, but when it does, it happens with
no warning, all the way back to the BIOS load screen, as if I had just hit the
reset button on my puter.

Any insight?
Brian

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Re: problem - system api on winnt

2002-01-17 Thread Brian Genisio

Wrong Group.  I have forwarded your question to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  This group
is for XFree related questions.  I did not have any problems compiling your
example code in Win2K.  (I linked against stdc++) Hopefully they can help you.

Brian

--- Guntupalli, Santhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I installed Cygwin Dll 1.3.6. I am working on Win NT.
  I built the sources in cygwin sucessfully.
  I have to use this application executable on some other win nt
  system which does not have cygwin.
  
  When i run my application from winnt promt it is returning for
  system api return code 127.
  I copied only cygwin1.dll to that system.
  This is sample program.
  Implementation of copy command.
  
  sample.cpp:
  
  int main()
  {
  
  int exit_code=::system(cp test.cpp test1.cpp);
  coutexit_code;
  }
  
  I built the sample.cpp in cygwin. i got the executable. when run
  executable from cygwin prompt system api is executing the   command
  properly and returns exit_code as 0.
  
  When i copy the same executable to some other machine which does not
  have cygwin and i run it from winnt cmd promt
  
  system api is returning error code as 127.  It is not executing
  system api. 
  cygwin1.dll is in path.
  Not only cp command, it is returning same error code for all other
  commands.
  
  What could be the problem. i need to copy any other cygwin dlls to
  my application?
  
  Thanks in advance.
  
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Re: adjust the number of bash windows opened

2002-01-16 Thread Brian Genisio

Simply edit the startx script to do what you want.  This is mentioned in the
user manual.

Brian


--- hongxun lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP

2002-01-14 Thread Brian Genisio

What is your DISPLAY variable set to?  I am a bit confused, since one output
talks about a server going to 127.0.0.1:3.0 . If your X server is on :0,
xwinclip will never be able to connect, regardless of the authorities.

Will other local X programs run?  xterm, xeyes, xwininfo, etc?

Brian


--- Matthew Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There is a problem when using xwinclip with an X server which connects to a
 remote host using XDMCP.
 
 Basically the sequence is this:
 
 1.  Execute XWin :0 -query some.host.system.  Initially, the authorisation
 file contains no records, so the localhost
 has access to the X server by default.  I quote from the Xserver man page:
 
 If this file contains  any  authorization  records,  the
 local  host  is  not  automatically  allowed access to the server, and
 only clients
 which send one of the authorization records contained in the file in the
 connection
 setup  information  will be allowed access.
 
 2.  XDMCP is used to query some.host.system, which then opens a connection
 to the local PC.  The first
 thing done is that XDMCP adds an auth record for some.host.system  This
 means that localhost loses access
 to the X server.
 
 3.  After XWin starts, xwinclip executes on the local host.  It fails with
 the error message: Could not open display
 
 Ok, so I added an xhost command, to explicitly allow access:
 
 xhost +127.0.0.1
 
 I failed with the error messages:
 
 Xlib: connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 
 I read some more about host access, and I created a /etc/X0.hosts file, and
 I deleted the .Xauthority file.
 This caused a different error.  XWin failed with the message: X connection
 to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken
 (explicit kill or server shutdown).
 
 I tried running XWin with the '-ac' command line parameter.  This is meant
 to open access to all hosts.
 Xwinclip still couldn't open the display.
 
 If XWin is used with a local window manager, this xwinclip (and any other
 client program which runs on the PC)
 will run sucessfully.  However, if XDMCP is used to connect to another
 system, then it fails.
 
 I'm completely stuck.  Any help would be very appreciated.
 
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Re: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Brian Genisio

Well, running a browser should be as easy as running it with a display set :

netscape -display winmachine:0

Or setting the display variable, and running netscape :

setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0
netscape

To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux box (I think most
distributions have it on by default), simply use the following command line
variables when starting the X server (This is in the user's manual):

-query linuxIP -from windowsIP

Brian


--- Raber Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Brian,
 
 You are a bit confused by my question because I am
 confused and propagating confusion!
 
 I am not sure if I want to run a different window
 manager or not. What I want is to be able to run a
 browser window from the remote Linux machine on my
 XWin client on cygwin. The reason is that I am going
 to be doing some installs via that browser and it
 makes my life easier (i.e. easier than using lynx that
 is).
 
 If I need to run a different window manager, then so
 be it. I have been reading about XDMCP but I don't
 fully get it. Can you point me to the best place to
 learn how to set up XDMCP for the Linux box? Is this a
 good reference:
 http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/
 
 Thanks again,
 
 -Chris.
 
 --- Brian Genisio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, I am a bit confused about your question.  If
  you are looking to run
  annother window manager, but not run it from the
  Windows box, then run it from
  the the linux box...
  
  Get the XFree/Cygwin server up
  From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex.
  fvwm -display windows:0)
  
  I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the
  website.  XDMCP allows you to
  log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the
  XFree/Cygwin server.  It works
  well.  
  
  Brian
  
  
  --- Raber Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I
   found the WEB UI to the list archive...
   
   First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed
  to
   do some remote Linux work from my PC.
   
   I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms
  from a
   linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run
  a
   netscape or other browser from my remote linux
   machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem
  to
   work.
   
   I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome
  to
   pull this off? What is the simplest way to use
  some
   other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to
   install another wm on my pc if I don't have to.
   
   Suggestions are much appreciated.
   
   TIA,
   
   -Chris.
   
   
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RE: Newbie needs help opening browser window.

2002-01-11 Thread Brian Genisio

Yes, but did you try it anyways?  Most Linux distributions set XDMCP up as
default when it sets up X.  I would simply try it, before you worry about
setting it up on the Linux system.

Another thought about the Netscape problem you are having... How much time are
you giving it to come up?  How far away is the remote machine?  (What is the
ping rate?)  If you have a ping rate of 70ms or so, Netscape will be dog slow,
and could take as long as 10 minutes to come up X programs dont work too
well over networks with latency (ie cable modem).

The other thought, if you think your window manager is the problem... kill off
twm, and run a window manager from the remote machine, and try it again.

Brian



--- Raber Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the
 command line 
  interface that I
  mentioned in the last mail?
 
 Unfortunately the machine is physically remote from me
 and I am not root, so I haven't been able to try this
 yet. I do intend to try this, but it's going to take a
 little while...
 
 The documentation on XDMCP present on the cygwin site
 shows how to use XDMCP, but not how to set it up...
 
  
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Re: briangenisio@yahoo.com

2002-01-11 Thread Brian Genisio

Yeah, with 100ms - 350ms, I know for a fact that Netscape is very slow.  I am
not sure if you know much about the X protocol, but a simple X program, such as
xterm will send about 20 protocol messages out... Many of the X protocol
messages are roundtrip and serial... Because of this, if you have (pseudo)code
that does something like this :

OpenDisplay
CreateWindow
GetGC
GetFont

Then you have AT_LEAST 4 round trip messages, assuming 1 message per call.
(This is very often not the case)  With low latency, this is not a problem, but
let's assume a latency of 250ms.  4 round-trip messages will take 1 second!!! 
This is huge.

Netscape, unfortuanately, is nowhere near a simple application.  I have done
some playing (using xmond), and found that Netscape makes tens of thousands of
X protocol calls.  Of course, not all of them are round trip, but the ones that
are will hurt :(  You can do the math... It could take close to forever for
Netscape to come up... and when it does, it will be so painful to use, that it
wont be worth it.

You might find a more efficient browser... lnyx, (like you mentioned) would be
one.  You might also try dillo (dillo.sourceforge.net)  It is a very simple
browser that will be much more effiecient to use over a latency such as that.  

If dillo is not enough for you (It might not be), I know that Opera (Opera.com)
boasts to be the fastest Web browser on earth... so we would hope that it has
some more streamlined X communication, but I cant say for sure.

Good luck,
Brian


--- Raber Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Yes, but did you try it anyways?  Most Linux
 distributions 
  set XDMCP up as
  default when it sets up X.  I would simply try it,
 before you 
  worry about
  setting it up on the Linux system.
 
 I did try it. I got too many retransmissions errors.
 
  
  Another thought about the Netscape problem you are
 having... 
  How much time are
  you giving it to come up?  How far away is the
 remote 
  machine?  (What is the
  ping rate?)  If you have a ping rate of 70ms or so,
 Netscape 
  will be dog slow,
  and could take as long as 10 minutes to come up
 X 
  programs dont work too
  well over networks with latency (ie cable modem).
 
 This is probably the issue. My ping latency is between
 100 and 350 ms! I am over DSL and through a VPN to the
 server I am connecting too.
 
 Sounds like my expectations were not in line with
 reality on this. Now where is that lynx browser... ;-)
 
  
  The other thought, if you think your window manager
 is the 
  problem... kill off
  twm, and run a window manager from the remote
 machine, and 
  try it again.
  
  Brian
 
 
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Re: briangenisio@yahoo.com

2002-01-11 Thread Brian Genisio

Yeah... I didnt know for sure which ones did, and which ones didnt cause round
trip... I was simply giving examples Regardless, there are PLENTY of
round-trip messages in Netscape.  (xmond will show them.)

Pixmaps cause high net traffic, but arent effected as much by latency as they
are bandwidth.  A DSL Cable modem usually doesnt have a problem with the pixmap
transfer...  Unless there is a lot of pixmap transfer, such as annimation. 
Still, it is a straight push, and latency matters much less in these cases.

I have written applications that were able to load large pixmaps quickly across
DSL or Cablemodem, but have also written programs with too many XSync calls
(roundtrip wrapper that uses GetInputFocus), causing them to be unusable over
Cable or DSL... It all depends if the designer cared about round-trip or not.

Almost all Motif widgets use XSync calls, as well as calls that are not
streamlined for latency.  I would make a gross assumption that Netscape uses
Motif, or other widget sets that are probably not extremely efficient.

A possible help to the problem might be ssh X compression.  It does a bit for
pixmap transfer.  LBX also can help a little on latency... There is a plain old
X compressor out there as well... but I cant remember the name.

Brian


--- Alexander Gottwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Brian Genisio wrote:
 
  OpenDisplay
  CreateWindow
 
 CreateWindow does not need Serverresponse. But the pixmap's needed for 
 Netscape cause the high traffic 
  GetGC
  GetFont
 
 bye
   ago
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Re: Which XWin engine is best?

2002-01-08 Thread Brian Genisio

Dont use NativeGDI, because it is a development engine...
If you have DirectX 4 or greater, use DirectDraw4... most people do, and it is
faster than the old standby of DirectDraw.

Either DirectDraw engine will work, but if you can use DirectDraw4, then do it.

PS (to the rest of the group).  If I got anything wrong, please correct me.

Brian


--- James Tetazoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There seems to be precious little documentation on exactly what 
 differentiates one XWin engine from the other (ie. GDI, DirectDraw, 
 DirectDraw4, NativeGDI).  This makes it impossible to determine which engine 
 it the best one to use under which circumstances.
 
 I'd appreciate it if someone could shed a little light on this subject.
 
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Re: After upgrading last night, Xfree no longer works.

2001-12-17 Thread Brian Genisio

Well, if extract.exe is also crashing (Still dont know what crashing
means), I assume your cygwin install is having some problems.  I updated to the
most recent dll 3 hours ago, and it all works for me, with the most recent
version of extract.exe.  

If your cygwin install is having some problems, it is very easy to re-install
it.  Simply move your directory to a different name for a temporary backup, and
re-install the cygwin binaries.  

Thats all I can say with what little I know about your problem.
Brian


--- Kent Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 12/17/2001 11:00 AM, Brian Genisio wrote:
 
  H... I just upgraded cygwin, and Xfree still works.  Have you
 downloaded
  the most recent versions of the XFree binaries?  When you say it doesnt
 work,
  what do you mean?  Does it start, and when you connect an app, it dies? 
 Does
  it Segfault?  What does it do?  I would recommend the most recent Xfree
  binaries.
 
 
 As a followup, I cannot upgrade due to the extract.exe that I unbzip2'd 
 crashes as well.  Do I have to uninstall cygwin and reinstall to get a 
 working XFree?
 
 
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