Re: SSH - Can't Login (3rd Post)

2010-10-28 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/28/2010 8:39 AM, Brian Wilson wrote:

$ ssh wil...@ncc-1701
usage: ssh [-1246AaCfgKkMNnqsTtVvXxYy] [-b bind_address] [-c cipher_spec]
   [-D [bind_address:]port] [-e escape_char] [-F configfile]
   [-I pkcs11] [-i identity_file]
   [-L [bind_address:]port:host:hostport]
   [-l login_name] [-m mac_spec] [-O ctl_cmd] [-o option] [-p port]
   [-R [bind_address:]port:host:hostport] [-S ctl_path]
   [-W host:port] [-w local_tun[:remote_tun]]
   [u...@]hostname [command]

Brian S. wil...@ncc-1701 ~
$ echo $?
255


If that is a direct return of a Win32 error then:

  $ net helpmsg 255

  The extended attributes are inconsistent.

You may have better luck getting to the bottom of this
by running the server with debug turned on and running the client
with verbose flags turned completely on.  If you find something
when doing that which you want to follow-up on the list,
please send exactly what you did, what you saw, and your
cygcheck output (-srv) to the list (see http://cygwin.com/problems.html
for details).  If you really are getting stuck when parsing the input,
then you might find that comparing the output of the old and new
ssh output when running under strace shows you something.

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Re: SSH - Can't Login (3rd Post)

2010-10-28 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/28/2010 10:37 PM, Brian Wilson wrote:

The ssh command and its response are just a cut and paste of the bash screen.
Trying to execute ssh -v ncc-1701 gives exactly the same results (note there
is no -v option in the displayed list).


$ ssh wil...@ncc-1701
usage: ssh [-1246AaCfgKkMNnqsTtVvXxYy] [-b bind_address] [-c cipher_spec]...
^
There it is. ;-)

I really didn't doubt that you cut and paste the output once I looked at
it but I'm glad you confirmed it.


I've attached a new cygcheck output (-svr) as you suggested.  One thing I
noted was that the uname -a output says I have Cygwin 1.7.1 and this
confuses me.  I've updated on a regular basis and reboot whenever the
installation requests me to do so.  I should have the 1.7.7-1 release.  The
cygcheck seems to have differing 1.7* information.  Is there some magic
translation I need to know of to get the correct release number?


No, if it's reporting 1.7.1, I expect that's the version you're running.
And I expect that's coming into play here.  But go ahead and double check
it in the Windows explorer.  I expect you'll find it reports 1.7.1 too.

This is a problem.  I expect you know that you need to stop all your
services before an upgrade in order to get the new DLL moved into place
immediately, right?  If you don't do this, it will queue up the move for
next reboot.  My guess is you've rebooted at least once since installing
1.7.x  1.7.1 but it's possible things have gotten gummed up if you didn't
and have since done other upgrades (that's pure theory though).  What's
not is that you have ZoneAlarm installed that is known to cause problems.
I'd recommend unstalling it, stopping all Cygwin services (cron, cygserver,
httpd2, and sshd), reinstall the Cygwin package, and then restart the
services.  You should find this process gives you a current cygwin1.dll
in '/bin'.  If not, we need to look at the results of the installation
process (and/or for http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#3PP ).

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Re: Unable to remap error

2010-10-27 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/27/2010 10:43 AM, Harie Ram wrote:

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Harie Ramhari.ra...@gmail.com  wrote:

1. You have 3rd party DLLs built with Cygwin.  These won't get rebased

 by default because rebaseall doesn't know about them.  Read the
 readme for details on how to include these other DLLs


How would I know which are the 3rd party dlls ?? I have installed the
packages from the Cygwin website only.

2.http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#BLODA

BLODA is not a problem for sure as the same list of applications are
there on Windows XP also and this package is working absolutely fine.

Hi Team,
Can someone reply to this question ?
How would I know which are the 3rd party dlls ?? I have installed the
packages from the Cygwin website only.


Assuming you haven't built any yourself, you'd have to look for these.
There are tools out there that are built using Cygwin and depend on
cygwin1.dll but don't come from cygwin.com.  In a rough approximation
of a brute force approach (assuming you can't more intelligently determine
a good list to investigate), you can search for all *.dll files on your
system and run each through 'cygcheck' looking for 'cygwin1.dll' in the
output.  Any that you find that aren't from the packages you installed
(under your Cygwin root directory) would be the ones you need to consider.
From a practical standpoint, if you're seeing the problem now, the
problematic DLL(s) would be loaded so you can certainly limit what you
look at to those apps that are currently running (or would run when you
see the problem).

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Re: side effects after installing gcc-3.4.4.999

2010-10-26 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/19/2010 11:47 AM, Afflictedd2 wrote:

Akakima wrote:


After updating gcc in my cygwin installation, i discovered
that i cannot run gcc.exe from the native winxp console (cmd.exe).

gcc.exe has been replaced by gcc-3.exe.

Of course, this works fine under bash and ash, but it does not work
anymore
under cmd.exe.

since i prefer to work under cmd.exe. i tried to fix this problem by:
adding .LNK to PATHEXT
and adding /usr/bin/alternatives to the PATH

and now if i type gcc, cmd finds gcc-3.exe and launch it.
But, this is not perfect. gcc (or someone else) wait until i press
enter to continue.

Anybody knows a better solution ?


I've got a simple solution  that I am not sure if it has been mentioned here.
take the link g++, and rename it g++.bak
and make a copy of the g++ you want to use g++-3 or 4
and rename it g++

No more access denied problem.


Better solutions than what you found are:

 o Invoke g++-3, gcc-3, g++-4, or gcc-4 directly.  These are executables
   and work fine from the command prompt.
 o Create g++.bat and gcc.bat that call your preferred executable.

These are better options than the one you found because they protect the
integrity and structure of the package.  Upgrades will not have leftover
.bak files from earlier versions and so on.  Also, your approach interferes
with the use of 'alternatives' to select the compiler version you want.  This
is made convenient by 2 scripts, set-gcc-default-3.sh and set-gcc-default-4.sh.
This mechanism is the reason that gcc, g++, gcj, and gnat are symbolic links
now rather than executables.

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Re: Unable to remap error

2010-10-06 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/6/2010 3:17 AM, Harie Ram wrote:

Finally got rebaseall working with the normal user itself. Please find
the result of successful rebaseall below . It was the case of
permissions on C:\Cygwin folder for newly installed packages.

# rebaseall
#

Even after a successful rebaseall , I am still getting the unable to
remap error intermittently. Please help. Again its happening only on
Windows 7.


If rebaseall doesn't help, then it's one of two things:

  1. You have 3rd party DLLs built with Cygwin.  These won't get rebased
 by default because rebaseall doesn't know about them.  Read the
 readme for details on how to include these other DLLs.

  2. http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#BLODA

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Re: permission denied when using snmpwalk

2010-10-06 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/6/2010 8:32 PM, Rogelio wrote:

I'm trying to snmpwalk a server using Cygwin, and when I type
snmpwalk -c like I am used to doing on a *nix box, I get a message
saying that permission is denied.

What might I need to check here?


Hard to say but since this isn't part of a Cygwin package, it's off-topic
for this list.  I'd recommend consulting the provider.

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Re: Unable to remap error

2010-10-05 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/5/2010 7:09 AM, Harie Ram wrote:

Rebaseall and peflagsall gives a success
only when run as administrator. With normal user , i get these errors
below.


Rebasing doesn't need to be performed by all users or continually.  Run
it if you have these remap problems and with any user for which it is
successful.  When it's not successful, the usual reason is that you
have some Cygwin process running.  Read the README and follow the
instructions there to avoid this problem.

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Re: bash bug?: nested bash --login -i doesn't run /etc/profile (still runs ~/.bash_profile)

2010-10-05 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/5/2010 10:12 AM, Daniel Barclay wrote:

Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:

On 10/4/2010 12:19 PM, Daniel Barclay wrote:

I wrote:

The behavior of bash --login -i seems to vary depending on whether
it is a root invocation or a nested invocation of bash. This is
inconsistent with the description man bash, and seems to be a bug.


Can anyone confirm (or anti-confirm) this behavior?:



Details:


When bash is started using the Cygwin shortcut (which runs cygwin.bat,
which executes bash --login -i), bash reads files /etc/profile and
~/.bash_profile. (Running bash --login -i from an interactive
cmd shell does the same.)

However, when in that first bash process, another bash is started with
that same bash --login -i command, bash does _not_ read /etc/profile.


Works for me.


How did you detect that that second bash runs /etc/profile?


I added set -x to the file so it would show me when it was running.

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Re: bash bug?: nested bash --login -i doesn't run /etc/profile (still runs ~/.bash_profile)

2010-10-04 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/4/2010 12:19 PM, Daniel Barclay wrote:

I wrote:

The behavior of bash --login -i seems to vary depending on whether
it is a root invocation or a nested invocation of bash. This is
inconsistent with the description man bash, and seems to be a bug.


Can anyone confirm (or anti-confirm) this behavior?:



Details:


When bash is started using the Cygwin shortcut (which runs cygwin.bat,
which executes bash --login -i), bash reads files /etc/profile and
~/.bash_profile. (Running bash --login -i from an interactive
cmd shell does the same.)

However, when in that first bash process, another bash is started with
that same bash --login -i command, bash does _not_ read /etc/profile.


Works for me.

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Re: How to run Cygwin as the root user ?

2010-10-04 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/4/2010 2:17 PM, Clement, Sebastien wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:36:26, Larry Hall wrote:

On 10/1/2010 5:23 PM, Clement, Sebastien wrote:

A very basic question but how can we do that ?


Cygwin runs as whatever user you start it as.  Log in and run
it.  If you need to switch users, you should install the
'openssh' package, read the readme and configure it, and
use 'ssh'.  There is no 'root' user in Windows and therefore
Cygwin.  Something close (but certainly not at all the same)
is Administrator.

Thank you Larry for this,

Note: I was unsure on how to reply to this so that the thread would be
followed. What's the best way ?


Just a reply is enough.

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Re: Slowdown after update on Win32 (XP Home)

2010-10-03 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/1/2010 8:08 PM, Michael Ludwig wrote:

Larry Hall (Cygwin) schrieb am 30.09.2010 um 20:38 (-0400):

On 9/30/2010 7:19 PM, Michael Ludwig wrote:

I'm seeing a painfully noticeable slowdown on my system. I must have
contracted this slowdown last week. My Cygwin is up to date as of
now, October 1st, 01:00 CET

Starting a MinTTY (or rxvt, for that matter) from the icon I've
placed in the start menu does not take the usual two or three
seconds, but may take as much as a whole minute. During this startup
attempt phase, I can see various bash processes with different PIDs
bubbling to the top in taskmgr. I've seen up to three of them at the
same time when my MinTTY was trying to start as the first Cygwin
process, so there should have been no other bash processes around.

This is Win32, XP Home SP3.



Could you provide the information requested by the problem reporting
guidelines:http://cygwin.com/problems.html


Attached.


My WAG is you're suffering from changes in the new version of
bash_completion.  If you don't use this, uninstall it.


Would bash completion account for several simultaneous bash processes on
login as described? Anyway, I uninstalled it, and the problem persists.


OK.  I see it points out ZoneAlarm.  That's worth uninstalling and trying
again.  You should also look at virus and other security software you have
installed.  Uninstall them 1 by 1 to see if you can pinpoint the problem.

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Re: How to evaluate cygwin state after interrupted update - and how to recover/resume?

2010-10-03 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/2/2010 6:03 PM, Mirko Vukovic wrote:

Hello

I was installing a new package (aspell) and the latest updates.  After
the file download, the obsolete packages were removed.  Then the
installation step started.  During iirc aspell's installation, I got
an error prompt from rapapp.exe (c++ error), after which the
installation procedure stalled.  I canceled the installation (cancel)
button after waiting 10-15 minutes.

How can I evaluate cygwin's state, and the state of the updates.  How
do I recover/resume the update?


Rerun 'setup.exe'.  You'll have to re-select the packages you want to
install though.  Sounds like you want to uninstall BlackICE for the
duration of the install though so that it doesn't get in the way.


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Re: How to evaluate cygwin state after interrupted update - and how to recover/resume?

2010-10-03 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/3/2010 9:04 PM, Mirko Vukovic wrote:

Thanks Larry,

but what about the packages that were deleted because they were being
updated to the newest version?

In other words,
  - I selected aspell for install
  - A bunch of other packages were auto-selected for updates.
  - All packages were downloaded

So, after the downloads
  - the obsolete packages were removed
  - aspell install started
  - ... and the crash happened.

I have not executed setup yet because I did not want to mess up any history
files (if there are any - I did not see anything relevant in /var/logs)


If you pick the 'aspell' package again, it will install it and any of its
dependencies.  If you're concerned about what Cygwin thinks it has installed
and whether those packages are in a consistent state, run 'cygcheck -c' and
reinstall any package that doesn't report OK.

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Re: How to run Cygwin as the root user ?

2010-10-01 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 10/1/2010 5:23 PM, Clement, Sebastien wrote:

A very basic question but how can we do that ?


Cygwin runs as whatever user you start it as.  Log in and run
it.  If you need to switch users, you should install the
'openssh' package, read the readme and configure it, and
use 'ssh'.  There is no 'root' user in Windows and therefore
Cygwin.  Something close (but certainly not at all the same)
is Administrator.

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Re: use the list of files stored in a text file and process it

2010-09-30 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/30/2010 9:37 AM, SJ Wright wrote:

I know one of the trip-ups I often have if I spend any time away from a
L/Unix environment has to do with the mv command: I often forget that it
prefers absolute paths from root folders (or in the case of Cygwin, virtual
ones taken as real) or dot-dot-slash relative path syntax to just
/god-directory/ or what-have-you. Many other commands, particularly ls and
ln -s, are likewise particular about their paths.


That's a sweeping statement without any supporting data.  I guess all I
can say is that my experience doesn't coincide with your statements.

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Re: Slowdown after update on Win32 (XP Home)

2010-09-30 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/30/2010 7:19 PM, Michael Ludwig wrote:

I'm seeing a painfully noticeable slowdown on my system. I must have
contracted this slowdown last week. My Cygwin is up to date as of now,
October 1st, 01:00 CET

Starting a MinTTY (or rxvt, for that matter) from the icon I've placed
in the start menu does not take the usual two or three seconds, but may
take as much as a whole minute. During this startup attempt phase, I can
see various bash processes with different PIDs bubbling to the top in
taskmgr. I've seen up to three of them at the same time when my MinTTY
was trying to start as the first Cygwin process, so there should have
been no other bash processes around.

This is Win32, XP Home SP3.

I hope this description is helpful in debugging this issue.


Could you provide the information requested by the problem reporting
guidelines: http://cygwin.com/problems.html

My WAG is you're suffering from changes in the new version of
bash_completion.  If you don't use this, uninstall it.

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Re: cygwin perl not working on my new x64 pc

2010-09-27 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/27/2010 6:34 PM, Koestner, Bart (FC CoE) wrote:

I have a new PC at work, a 64-bit Dell T3500 with Windows XP Pro x64
Edition 2003 with svc pack 2.

After running the cygwin install, the problem is that when I run a perl
script in a cygwin bash shell, or just fire up perl.exe, it just returns
instantly without doing anything or reporting a problem. For grins,
though, I launched a dos window and tried to run perl.exe there, and a
msg box pops up saying cygcrypt-0.dll was not found (if that's the
problem what do I do to fix it?)


http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=cygcrypt

Install the 'crypt' package.

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Re: My bash shell suddenly has X-ray vision

2010-09-26 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/25/2010 9:27 PM, SJ Wright wrote:

Or is it just the difference in encodings?

In scripts and config/convenience files like .bashrc or .bash_aliases, it can
 see *through* crunches (#), which are supposed to make a line of text
invisible to a shell or am I wrong on that?

Could it be because I added a LANG variable and have been turning out
not-quite-UTF-8 stuff from my one or two text editors? The only guess I can
make with my limited knowledge is that, once UTF8 is set or enabled,
ISO-8859-1 crunches, for all practical purposes, are meaningless to the
shell. or am I wrong on that as well?

A little help, please. This isn't making a whole lot of sense. What good are
 rules for comments if, when a new text encoding or environment variable is
applied/undertaken/invoked, they become null and void? (Might as well go back
to REM: from CLI BASIC.)


I suggest you run 'd2u' on the files and see if that helps.  If it does, you
know that some editing you did on those files introduced DOS/Windows line
endings.

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Re: cygwin : bash doesn't recognize BackSpace

2010-09-26 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/26/2010 9:30 AM, MikeS wrote:

Larry Hall (Cygwinreply-to-list-only-lhat  cygwin.com  writes:



On 5/27/2010 10:11 AM, RISINGP1at  nationwide.com wrote:

I was having trouble with the backspace key, but it was with pdksh, so I
don't know if this will work for you, but it is worth a try...

Andy Koppeandy.koppeat  gmail.com   wrote:


 From the cygwin-1.7.5 release announcement:


- Support DEC Backarrow Key Mode escape sequences (ESC [ ? 67 h,
   ESC [ ? 67 l) in Windows console.

(The first one switches to ^H. You'll need to set stty erase accordingly.)


That's a different issue.  The OP's problem is a conflict with MKS,
particularly with environment variables both MKS and Cygwin use to define a
working terminal setting.



I have both MKS and cygwin. The following command: export TERM=cygwin
fixed backspace issue.
Before:
$ env |grep TERM
TERM=nutc
TERMCAP=C:\PROGRA~1\MKSTOO~1\etc\termcap
TERMINFO=C:\PROGRA~1\MKSTOO~1\usr\lib\terminfo

After:
$ env |grep TERM
TERM=cygwin
TERMCAP=C:\PROGRA~1\MKSTOO~1\etc\termcap
TERMINFO=C:\PROGRA~1\MKSTOO~1\usr\lib\terminfo


Right.  Cygwin doesn't understand nutc as a terminal type (just as MKS
doesn't know cygwin).  Setting the terminal type correctly for Cygwin
makes all the difference.

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Re: setup.exe: How to install sources from the command line?

2010-09-26 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/26/2010 5:56 PM, Al wrote:

When I open the shell for the first time, the user directory is
created. Is there a trigger to reach this without manually opening a
login shell?


The check is in '/etc/profile'.  It's just checking if $HOME exists.

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Re: why cannot I see serial devices using ls

2010-09-22 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/22/2010 8:41 AM, JonMcG wrote:


I have decided to  port some code to cygwin from linux. It uses serial ports
and under linux I can
ls -l /dev/tty*
If I do this under cygwin I get nothing. If I do
ls -l /dev
I only get a few device. However if I do
ls -l /dev/ttyS0
or
ls -l /dev/com1
then I get what I would expect.
I have searched cygwin FAQ etc and this forum but didn't find anything.
Anybody any ideas what I have to do?


Read the User's Guide:

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html#pathnames-posixdevices

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Re: [bulk] - R: /dev/ttys* under cygwin problem

2010-09-22 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/22/2010 1:29 PM, Daniel Barclay wrote:

Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
...

To go there directly:
http://www.cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html#pathnames-posixdevices



Regarding where that page says:

These devices cannot be seen with the command ls /dev/ ...

I've wondered about that--why aren't those special files listed in a
directory listing?

(The Cygwin DLL makes those device files appear when they are referred
to by full pathname; why doesn't it also make them appear in the
containing directory's listing?)


They are implemented in a virtual file system.  It is not necessary that
there be placeholders in the file system for them to work.  But if you
prefer that, you can add them.  This is why the documentation has a link
to the script to create the devices in the file system:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-03/txt00028.txt

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Re: Command Line Editing does not work, please help

2010-09-22 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/22/2010 10:38 PM, gene golub wrote:

Hello folks,
I am trying to use line editing commands:
C-b
Move back one character.
C-f
Move forward one character

and they are not working.
I also want to start using history features - search or list history file for
recent execution lines.

I looked through Bash Reference 
http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Command-Line-Editing and 
these commands are described.
CAn you help please.


http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#WJFFM

Maybe you should start at the beginning, reading the problem reporting
guidelines:

Problem reports:   http://cygwin.com/problems.html


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Re: fvwm ignores clickToFocus for function keys

2010-09-21 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/21/2010 12:14 PM, Charles Smith wrote:

This is different than the operation of fvwm under linux.  In that
case, an in-focus xterm takes function key input as well as other key
input, regardless where the mouse cursor is.


a) Are you running fvwm under a rootless X11?
b) are your configs the same?


Ah, you mean on cygwin and on linux?  Yes, that's the beauty of the thing.

As far as a rootless X11 goes ... I don't know how to configure that.


Cygwin-X User's Guide to the rescue! :-)

http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/configure.html

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Re: fvwm ignores clickToFocus for function keys

2010-09-21 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/21/2010 3:39 PM, Charles Smith wrote:

Cygwin-X User's Guide to the rescue!:-)

Okay, I'll give that a try ... except ... can I run FVWM rootless?  Where
will it go?  Doesn't rootless mode mean that the Windows window manager is
used?


No.  From the link to the documentation:

Note: This is typically used to work with local or remote X
applications, integrated into your native Windows desktop, but
controlled using the X window manager of your choice.

You're thinking of -multiwindow.

This topic really is X-specific.  It's more appropriate to use the
cygwin-xfree list, which handles Cygwin X issues and questions.  Please
follow-up there with any further replies.

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Re: xfig with cygwin

2010-09-21 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/21/2010 7:12 PM, Dwilewicz, Roman wrote:

Hello,

I am using xfig on Windows machines (xp and 7). In the last year or two
I have problems with figures when I draw patterns and then export them.
Namely in the dvi or ps files, the lines or some parts of patterns
become so thick that the pattern is not recognizable, actually half
black. It seems that it is not a problem of xfig, because if I run it on
a unix machine and export the figures (eps, pstex etc), then everything
is ok. I have not had this pattern problem before 2009. Is there some
bug in cygwin or maybe somewhere else?


Unless it's obvious to you (it's not to me) that this is not X-related,
I recommend that you ask first on the cygwin-xfree list.  That list
handles X-specific questions and issues.  If the end result is not
it is not X-related, the issue can come back to this list at that point.
I would also recommend compiling a full problem report as outlined by
this link: http://cygwin.com/problems.html

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Re: ssh from linux to cygwin + CUI + Ctrl-C

2010-09-20 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/20/2010 6:22 AM, Ilia K. wrote:

It looks like my reply got lost in mailer's spam filters, reposting.

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
...

Cygwin summarily halts a pure-Windows process on receiving a CTRL-C.
There is no way around that other than to relink the program to use
Cygwin.


Do you state that there is absolutely no way to make it work as I need?
This would be very pity...

Do you know what's the difference between running bash from sshd and
from the desktop? In the later case, Ctrl-C works as expected! To me
it looks like cygwin knows how to pass Ctrl-C to native apps, but sshd
somehow interferes with it.


See http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-cygwinenv.html and look for the
'tty' setting.  If you set 'tty' before starting 'bash', you'll see the same
issue even using a plain console (cmd.exe). I'm assuming that's
what you mean when you say from the desktop above.  Actual terminals,
rxvt, mintty, etc., will have the same behavior you saw with 'sshd'.
Currently, there is no way to support ptys and make Windows understand them
as something other than a pipe.

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Re: simplifying rebaseall

2010-09-17 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/17/2010 10:50 AM, Charles Wilson wrote:

On 9/17/2010 10:39 AM, Al wrote:

A second thought. I wonder if reabaseall could be improved to run from
within bash, without the need to close down all running windows. Then
it could even be included into build scripts to be run after each
build.


No, because the DLLs used by bash are OFTEN the ones that actually DO
need to be rebased (because they are used by darn near everything, so we
need to ensure that their image base does not conflict with anything
else): libintl, libiconv, libncurses, ...


Assuming that those DLL which are up and running typically don't need
to be rebased, couldn't one simply exclude them from being rebased?
I.e. with on option:

rebaseall --exclude-loaded


You're missing the point of rebaseALL.  Murphy says that if you don't
rebase dll A, then dll A *will* be the culprit the next time you get
that 'unable to remap' error.

With regards to your earlier .bat file idea...Meh. You shouldn't need to
DO it that often -- certainly not often enough to clutter your start
menu or desktop with a shortcut!


And it invites casual use without understanding the what and why.  This means
more people using it for no reason and more problems using it when it is
needed because people don't understand the requirements to make it work
(i.e. *nobody* will read the readme... wait, there's a readme? ;-) ).

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Re: simplifying rebaseall

2010-09-17 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/17/2010 1:38 PM, Al wrote:

Hi,

I appreciate you take the time to contribute all that information.
Hope it is not only red by me.



Now, surely that is a lot of hunting around -- but I can only assume
that many people did so, since you are apparently the first person to
fail to locate the documentation when faced with the question How do I
run rebaseall?


I wasn't faced with that question. I was face with error messages.
Google guided me by this messages (and many others) to exactly this
blog first:

http://www.mylifestartingup.com/2009/04/fatal-error-unable-to-remap-to-same.html

... not to Cygwin list, not to the readme, not to the FAQ. The blog
rather tells how to run rebaseall not much why. The comments document
well that many people follow that advice without any knowledge of any
readme. You don't even find the word readme on that blog.


But we have no control over that obviously.  I think it's important to
recognize when you go searching for information, it makes sense to weigh
what you find against its source and consider the project's source as a
more definitive and complete set of information.  Obviously, there's
nothing wrong with searching anywhere and everywhere for some clue about a
problem.  But information that comes from sites that are obviously not
the project's site, cygwin.com in this case, is also a clue that further
research using the project's resources and the new found data is a good
idea.

There's no question that there is quite a leap from the error message given
to the fact that rebasing is a possible solution (and not the only possible
solution - see http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#BLODA for another).  A FAQ
entry about the remap error message would probably help some at least.
Over time, the hope is that package rebuilding helps make this even less of
a problem.  But it is a pain regardless without a great solution.

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Re: Unacceptable behavior -- slowing down script execution

2010-09-17 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/17/2010 6:46 PM, SJ Wright wrote:

The above message:http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2010-09/msg00568.html I
have found other messages that discuss the 100% CPU load issue in previous
versions of Cygwin. No wonder no one's bothered to answer my questions yet --
 evidently one should take it as read that anything fancier than cmd.exe as a
 terminal emulator will do this.

Okay, so here's QUESTION #6: Why should a bash script call up sh.exe, not
once but as many as three times, as processes in Task Manager when run in the
current version of Cygwin?

As for the slowdown in script execution: I've pondered using ssh, scp and ftp
to do all my heavier-load script running remotely to my Linux laptop.
QUESTION #7: Am I the only one who thinks this shouldn't be necessary?

Here's hoping I've piqued someone's interest.


Here's a thought:


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Re: .exe magic reloaded 2

2010-09-15 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/15/2010 12:23 PM, Al wrote:


For instance, this one:  Either we always remove the .exe suffix from
a file, or we have to check for each file with a .exe suffix, whether
it's executable or not.


Probably without checking it. No sane program would use the .exe
suffix as extension of a mere textfile.

What would be the ideal approach, without thinking of backward issues?

How about this?

1.) When a file is made executable .exe is appended, but only visible
from Windows API.
2.) When the last execution bit is removed the .exe suffix is also removed.
3.) Using the .exe suffix from the Cygwin API always gives an error.
4.) Hence: You never see this suffix on the Cygwin API.


How would this work with non-Cygwin programs?  They wouldn't be handled under
(1).

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Re: Problem with Network Drives

2010-09-15 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/15/2010 7:43 PM, Xristos Karvouneas wrote:


Hi All,

I am having a problem with a network share under Windows XP. I can run
mkpasswd -l  /etc/passwd and mkgroup -l -d  /etc/group fine, but if I do an
ls -l on the network share I get the following:

-rw-r--r--   1   104 2010-02-21 12:51 test.txt

i.e. the username and group are not recongised.

Any ideas as to what might be wrong here?


Specify the domain name with the -d flag to 'mkpasswd' and 'mkgroup'.

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Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text

2010-09-14 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin X)

On 9/14/2010 4:05 PM, Brian Kelly wrote:

Also - tried GVim, and it locked when I only got one character highlighted.
Tried minTTY, and it works perfectly (of course it's not X-based). The
cut-and-paste works flawlessly.

Again, why X highlighting and cut-and-paste worked yesterday and not today
is the real mystery. The machine has been rebooted numerous times as well -
to no avail.


You might want to look at what Windows, virus, and spyware updates occurred
recently.  It's also possible this is interference from BLODA.

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Re: 1.7.7: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION bug

2010-09-14 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/14/2010 10:40 AM, טל ח wrote:

   4 [main] gvim 7236 C:\cygwin\bin\gvim.exe: *** fatal error -
unable to remap
_\\?\C:\cygwin\lib\gtk-2.0\2.10.0\loaders\cygpixbufloader-xpm.dll to
same address as parent: 0x5D != 0x60 Stack trace:


Try installing the 'rebase' package,
reading /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/rebase-3.0.1.README, and following the
instructions there to run 'rebaseall'.

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Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/13/2010 9:19 AM, Al wrote:

Hello,

I run Cygwin on a double core machine with Vista. I estimate that 1 of
20 of my compilations break and need to be repeated. One weak point is
the compression of man pages.

Others report that they don't use Cygwin because of instablilities,
especially in the server context.

What are the reasons? Will this be better with Windows 7? Can Cygwin
become server stable?


You'll need to be more specific about the issues you're encountering
and your configuration.  See http://cygwin.com/problems.html.

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Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/13/2010 11:57 AM, Al wrote:

These two things are related. Remember that Cygwin is an open source


Sure it is related, but that doesn't answer my question.


Who would keep counters of stable or instable setups? These number are
exceptionally hard to come by. Even if this list is now flooded with my
setup works and mine too posts, these numbers would not be


No that is not the way to go. I think there are people which run
Cygwin on more than 1 machine, so they have a personal estimation and
experience.


representative. Users may have given up on Cygwin due to instabilities
without notifying the list. Others may run Cygwin so happily they never


Right. Similar I can't report the bugs for people telling me, they
don't use Cygwin, because of stability issues they encountered in the
past.


OK.  Well without any specifics about a particular issue and/or point in
time, there's really no way for anyone on this list to respond to this
type of query.  If someone finds something, the best way to handle the
problem is to report it here following the guidelines of
http://cygwin.com/problems.html.

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Re: ***Fatal error couldn't allocate heap win 32 error 487***

2010-09-10 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/10/2010 3:14 PM, Sridhar Balasubramanian wrote:

Hi,

For the past few days, i have been facing this particular problem with
cygwin:--

I have a perl script to convert .pgm files to .tif file. It used to be
working perfectly fine through cygwin bash shell. However, couple of days
back it stopped working and throws the following error:


Since this is perl-related, I'd say start with perlrebase.

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Re: AW: [bulk] - Re: GSMlib

2010-09-09 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/9/2010 3:50 AM, DEWI - N. Zacharias wrote:

snip


By the way the spam protection blocks also mails containing the list address.
Is this intended ??


You mean in the body of the message?  Yes, that's intended.  Goes to not
feeding the spammers and all that.

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Re: likely stupid question but name conflicts with foo and foo.exe?

2010-09-08 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/8/2010 7:32 AM, mike marchywka wrote:

On 9/8/10, Corinna Vinschen  wrote:

On Sep  7 09:00, mike marchywka wrote:

Hi,
I'm trying to copy of bunch of files from debian over to windoze using scp
-r.
This was working fine except for one error where it complains foo is
not a directory
and apparently I have foo and foo.exe in one dir but foo is a directory.


This is by design.  foo.exe is recognized as foo to allow to start apps
without the dreaded suffix.  Since Cygwin 1.7.0, foo and foo.exe are
treated as identical.  You can't have a dir foo and a file foo in
the same directory, and that extends to foo, foo.exe, and foo.lnk,
the latter only if it's a Cygwin symlink of the shortcut type.


Well, I think my original problem was foo.exe and a directory foo both in
same dir. I guess there could be issues with case too - foo and Foo. But, you
did make a conscious design decision to treat exe special?


Yep.  If foo != foo.exe then users have to type foo.exe to run foo, which
is contrary to the conventions of Unix/Linux.  Worse, all scripts that
reference foo won't run because only foo.exe exists on Windows (for
historical reasons).


This wouldn't be an absurd naming convention in real life however, app the
dir and app.exe that uses it.


As long as they aren't in the same directory, then that's fine.

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Re: incredibly slow file listing script on windoze 7 pro 4 core 64 bit

2010-09-08 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/8/2010 9:35 AM, mike marchywka wrote:

On 9/7/10, Larry Hall (Cygwin)reply-to-list-only...@xxx.com  wrote:

On 9/7/2010 12:05 PM, mike marchywka wrote:

this takes a few minutes on old debian machine, taking much longer
here on same data-
about 19k file about 24Gb total size.
Windoze finally has better perf stuff but still no help- one core at
25 pct all kernel
time disk not exactly busy. All the time is in the ls loop not the
find command.
Now obbviously I expect the ls per file has to make a bunch of OS calls
for
each file but still even with cygwin layer seems a bit much.
Thanks.


The problem is that Cygwin has to open all the files to stat when you
use the '-l' flag.  Try without the flag to get the lower bound and see if
that's better for you.  If so, maybe '-s' will suit your purpose.  Or
even 'du'?


Sure, I could find a better way to do it but I was just curious about
performance diffs. I've got this expensive 'doze laptop with 4 cores and the
latest OS and all and compared to this old emachines desktop with debian it
seems a bit slow. Now maybe this is a bit of a contrived case, no one would
really do this and afterall the new system may be optimized for real-life
usages and of course cygwin can't speed up obligatory OS calls.


To somewhat sooth your curiousity, Windows (or perhaps it's more accurate
to say NTFS) ain't great with directories with a large number of files.
I expect you would be less than impressed with the performance of of 'dir'
in 'cmd.exe' in the same directory.  That said, you're asking for allot more
work than you may realize when doing the same thing in Cygwin.  In order to
fill in the information you ask for when you use the '-l' flag for 'ls',
Cygwin needs to open and close the files, which takes a good chunk of time
en masse.  The same does not need to happen in Linux/UNIX-land.  So what
you're looking at here, above and beyond the design decisions of Windows,
is some limitations of the emulated environment.  So you can now take some
joy in the knowledge that you have a spanking new system to run
Windows/Cygwin on rather than an old eMachines box. ;-)


Anyway yes du seems much faster and is quite reasonable :)


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Re: GSMlib

2010-09-08 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/8/2010 10:00 AM, DEWI - N. Zacharias wrote:


Hi all,

has someone successfully compiled and installed  gsmlib 1.10
(http://www.pxh.de/fs/gsmlib/index.html) ?


Norbert, please don't commandeer another thread for your own purposes.
If you have something that isn't related to an existing thread, just
send a new email message to the list.  Replying to an existing message
and changing the subject does not create a new thread
(http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2010-09/msg00266.html).

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Re: Windows-style pathname does not work as command - why?

2010-09-08 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/8/2010 11:58 AM, Daniel Barclay wrote:

Christopher Faylor wrote:


snip


And, trying hard to make MS-DOS stuff work is sorta counter to the
whole reason for Cygwin.


Isn't the whole reason for Cygwin actually to enable doing Unixy things
in Windows (that is, providing Windows/Unix interoperablity?


No, that's not a key goal.  From the Cygwin main web page:

Cygwin is a Linux-like environment for Windows. It consists of two parts:

# A DLL (cygwin1.dll) which acts as a Linux API emulation layer providing
  substantial Linux API functionality.
# A collection of tools which provide Linux look and feel.

So, since Linux doesn't support Windows path syntax, it's not a goal for
Cygwin to be able to do it either.  That's not to say that Cygwin won't
support it.  Just that if it's hard to make it work in all cases, then
the result will likely be that those cases just don't work unless you
use POSIX-style paths.

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Re: Windows-style pathname does not work as command - why?

2010-09-08 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/8/2010 1:24 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:

On 8 September 2010 17:35, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:

Isn't the whole reason for Cygwin actually to enable doing Unixy things
in Windows (that is, providing Windows/Unix interoperablity?


No, that's not a key goal. From the Cygwin main web page:

Cygwin is a Linux-like environment for Windows


Well, I (and my employer) would not be using Cygwin if it wasn't for
the Windows integration, in particular the ability to plug POSIX and
Windows programs together.

If I just wanted to run Linux software on Windows, I'd use a virtual
machine or coLinux. While Cygwin's lower resource usage is nice to
have, that's easily outweighed by the inevitable compatibility and
performance drawbacks that come with building on top of Win32.


There are allot of different reasons people choose to use Cygwin.
However, as a product (and I'm not suggesting anything commercially
motivated here when using that term), it has some key design goals.
They are the ones I quoted from the main page on the Cygwin web site.
There are others that are secondary goals.  Interoperability
is certainly one.  But Windows/DOS-style path support is not the
whole reason for Cygwin as the OP suggested.  It is, rather, a
case where the primary goals of Linux compatibility require a choice
to be made and in this case the choice is POSIX-style paths trump
Windows/DOS-style paths anywhere the support cost is too high for
the latter.

The general argument of Windows interoperability in Cygwin has been
discussed on the list in the past.  I'm not trying to re-open those
threads or start a new flame war on the subject.  I'm only trying to
correct a misconception of the OP with regards to accepted path syntax.
I hope that's clear now.

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Re: Oddities with file deletion on CIFS drive

2010-09-08 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/8/2010 6:17 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:

I have a CIFS drive I connect to as the windows user.  I can write to the
drive with no problem. However, when I go to delete files from the drive,
Cygwin behaves very oddly.


snip


$ ls -l
total 104
-r-xr-xr-x 1   1362 2010-09-08 13:31 BUILD_EVO_template


snip

I think you need to look at why the user that created the files in the
first place isn't known to Cygwin.  If you can solve that problem, you
may find the rest falls into place.

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Re: Windows-style pathname does not work as command - why?

2010-09-08 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/8/2010 5:19 PM, Karl M wrote:

snip


To be fair (as opposed to just mean) Cygwin does provide other tools to...


Fair?  And not mean??  Who let this guy in?

Karl, you obviously just don't fit in here. ;-)

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Re: Oddities with file deletion on CIFS drive

2010-09-08 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/8/2010 6:45 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:

--On Wednesday, September 08, 2010 6:37 PM -0400 Larry Hall (Cygwin)  wrote:


snip


I think you need to look at why the user that created the files in the
first place isn't known to Cygwin. If you can solve that problem, you
may find the rest falls into place.


No clue, I assume it is some bug in cygwin, since this happens to any file
created on this drive via Cygwin.

bu...@zre-win-002 /cygdrive/z/current/WINDOWS
$ whoami
build

bu...@zre-win-002 /cygdrive/z/current/WINDOWS
$ ls -l blah
ls: cannot access blah: No such file or directory

bu...@zre-win-002 /cygdrive/z/current/WINDOWS
$ touch blah
l
bu...@zre-win-002 /cygdrive/z/current/WINDOWS
$ ls -l blah
-rw-r--r-- 1   0 2010-09-08 15:45 blah


OK, take a look at http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html#ntsec-ids.
You'll want to use 'mkpasswd' and 'mkgroup' to get the passwd and group
files fixed up.

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Re: Oddities with file deletion on CIFS drive

2010-09-08 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/8/2010 7:07 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:

--On Wednesday, September 08, 2010 6:51 PM -0400 Larry Hall (Cygwin)  wrote:



OK, take a look at http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html#ntsec-ids.
You'll want to use 'mkpasswd' and 'mkgroup' to get the passwd and group
files fixed up.


I've read that page multiple times, and it still looks greek to me. :/ What I
know is, the CIFS drive is mounted as the user build. The user I log into
windows with is build. The user cygwin runs under is build. So all 3 of
those match. I don't see why there's any issue at all determining who owns
the files.

bu...@zre-win-002 ~
$ id build
uid=503(build) gid=513(None) groups=513(None)

bu...@zre-win-002 ~
$ grep build /etc/passwd
build:unused:503:513:U-ZRE-WIN-002\build,S-1-5-21-1229272821-2049760794-1417001333-1003:/home/build:/bin/bash


This shouldn't be significant but is there a reason that you changed
your uid to 503 from 1003?


bu...@zre-win-002 ~
$ grep 513 /etc/group
None:S-1-5-21-1229272821-2049760794-1417001333-513:513:


Hm, what does 'ls -ln' look like?  I can guess but I shouldn't do that. ;-)

That covers all the obvious things for me.  I'd recommend taking a look at
the SAMBA server to see if user IDs are mapped correctly.  Also, I know
there were some problems in the past with older Samba servers, bugs and
all.  Make sure you're using a current version there.  It may be
worthwhile to look at the permissions and owners from the Windows
perspective too.  If that doesn't get you anywhere, I'd recommend filing
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Re: Oddities with file deletion on CIFS drive

2010-09-08 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/8/2010 10:21 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:

--On Wednesday, September 08, 2010 7:12 PM -0700 Quanah Gibson-Mount
qua...@zimbra.com wrote:


That covers all the obvious things for me. I'd recommend taking a look
at the SAMBA server to see if user IDs are mapped correctly. Also, I
know there were some problems in the past with older Samba servers, bugs
and all. Make sure you're using a current version there. It may be
worthwhile to look at the permissions and owners from the Windows
perspective too. If that doesn't get you anywhere, I'd recommend filing
a full problem report on your follow-up to the list. See the link below
for full details:


I don't think the CIFS server is using Samba, actually. It is a Celerra
storage array from EMC
(http://www.emc.com/products/family/celerra-family.htm), and in this
case, it isn't hooked up to an AD server like they usually have them.


Hm, looks like it does use smb, based off google. But I have no idea what
version of Samba it ships with. I'll see if I can find out from out
networking team.


Yeah, there's been plenty of these network appliances that really foul up
their implementation of permissions.  MVFS and NetApp are a couple in the
past that have had problems.  If you have the csih package installed, run
/usr/lib/csih/getVolInfo drive letter:/ and send the results here.  And
then wait for the groans. ;-)

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Re: Problem with mouse events in XWin server

2010-09-07 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/7/2010 9:31 AM, Jurgen Defurne wrote:

Dear all,

At work I use my portable as X server for a remote Linux machine. I can use
two brands of software, Reflection X, which is installed by our IT department,
or Cygwin XWin, which I install my self.


Since this is a Cygwin-X issue, please send it to the cygwin-xfree list.
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Re: incredibly slow file listing script on windoze 7 pro 4 core 64 bit

2010-09-07 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/7/2010 12:05 PM, mike marchywka wrote:

this takes a few minutes on old debian machine, taking much longer
here on same data-
about 19k file about 24Gb total size.
Windoze finally has better perf stuff but still no help- one core at
25 pct all kernel
time disk not exactly busy. All the time is in the ls loop not the
find command.
Now obbviously I expect the ls per file has to make a bunch of OS calls for
each file but still even with cygwin layer seems a bit much.
Thanks.


The problem is that Cygwin has to open all the files to stat when you
use the '-l' flag.  Try without the flag to get the lower bound and see if
that's better for you.  If so, maybe '-s' will suit your purpose.  Or
even 'du'?

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Re: Fw: Hello, I need help with PHP compiling and/or how to get PCTNL extension working under cygwin

2010-09-06 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/6/2010 1:50 PM, Linux User wrote:
...

So I decided to try to compile the newest version of PHP available, epic
failure because apparently, PHP ./configure doesn't support autoconf 2.65,
only 2.13 which isn't available in the repos...


I see it.  Pick the autoconf2.1 package.

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Re: simulating console input

2010-09-02 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/2/2010 3:47 AM, Peter Münster wrote:

Hello,

I would like to run a Dos program, that needs keyboard input (just one Y),
automatically via make in an ssh-session.

How could I simulate the Y keypress?

echo Y | DosProgram.exe does not work...

The keypress is accepted only in a dos-console.


Read http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-effectively.html#using-console.
Then add this fact - the SSH server uses ptys.  So your program will not
work with a single character put in the input buffer.  One could
envision using 'yes' to fill the buffer of the pipe that the Windows program
interprets the pty to be.  Perhaps a nicer alternative is to build the
problematic program with Cygwin, if that's an option, so that it will
understand the pty.

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Re: 1.7.[67]: getting bash prompt takes 50 seconds

2010-09-02 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/2/2010 11:03 PM, Reid Thompson wrote:

On 9/1/2010 8:35 AM, Andrey Repin wrote:
+

Did you tried to *uninstall* bash-completion?


What changed such that bash-completion, which previously worked fine, no
longer does?


Upstream changes.  They're working on fixes.  See recent email archives
if you're interested in some details.

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Re: Cross-compiling for i686-pc-mingw32

2010-09-01 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 9/1/2010 10:35 AM, Andrey Repin wrote:

Greetings, Charles Wilson!


With cygwin-1.5.25 I can cross-compile libraries for native win32 by
starting with the following configure command:

./configure --host=i686-pc-mingw32 --build=i686-pc-cygwin CC='gcc
-mno-cygwin' host_alias=i686-pc-mingw32

and that has worked fine on the few occasions that I've tried it.

However, with cygwin-1.7.5, it doesn't work.



For now, use CC='gcc-3 -mno-cygwin'. Soon you'll be able to use a real,
honest-to-god cross compiler version of gcc-4 instead (e.g.
i686-pc-mingw32-gcc)


Aww... now i'm struck with it.
Tried to compile http://www.acme.com/software/mini_httpd/
Installed gcc-mingw, it pulled up some additional packets including gcc
itself.
Then I ran make just for test. Cygwin build went fine, apart from htpasswd
(there's getline redefined in source), but I don't really need it.
Then tried to switch to mingw32 and...

$ gcc -b i686-pc-mingw32 -O   -c mini_httpd.c
gcc: couldn't run `i686-pc-mingw32-gcc-3.4.4': No such file or directory

Tried the suggested gcc-3 -mno-cygwin, and got a whole bunch of unresolved
function names.
So... am I doing something wrong or it's not yet ready to do so?


Can you be more specific about what you did?  For example, your original
post stated you could use 'gcc -mno-cygwin' when configuring back in the
days of 1.5.x.  Are you saying that substituting 'gcc-3' for 'gcc' in that
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Re: Cygwin for windows 7

2010-08-31 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/31/2010 6:31 PM, charl...@stny.rr.com wrote:

Hello,
I just downloaded and installed the new cygwin for windows 1.7.7-1.  I am
having trouble issuing basic ls commands against network drives.  For
example,after I NET USE to a network drive and cd to it (I.e.  Cd
/cygdrive/z/test) and then issue the ls command, I get invalid argument.  I
have never seen this on xp or vista, only win 7.  Is this a known problem by
any chance? Thank you!


No, this is not a known problem and certainly not a common one.  Please
submit a problem report as described by the link below if you continue to
have problems.


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Re: endless problems with SSHD - bug ??

2010-08-31 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/18/2010 11:24 PM, Bob Goldberg wrote:

-Original Message-
From: cygwin-owner


http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR  We don't encourage feeding the
spammers around here.  Thanks.


Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:04 PM
To: cygwin

  ^^
Ditto.  And actually all these header fields are unnecessary.


snip



and as I finish this - just had a h...
having cygwin installed on non- C: isn't a problem - is it??


No but this may be relevant:

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-12/msg01052.html

Make sure you read the whole thread.

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Re: Linking shared libraries problem

2010-08-29 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/29/2010 7:08 PM, Tomás Staig wrote:

Hi,
I have been trying to port some software from Linux (Scientific Linux/RedHat)
to windows using Cygwin. I have been able to port most of it with little
changes but I encountered a problem when linking shared libraries. It seems
that the chain of dependencies is not included when linking. Furthermore, ldd
does not show the dependency libraries as in Linux. I have tried both using
the import libraries (%.dll.a) and linking the dll files (%.dll) directly.

I have arranged a small example program that reproduces this effect.
Used Ubuntu 8.04 to and CYGWIN_NT-5.1 version 1.7.6(0.230/5/3) 2010-08-16
16:06 on top of a 32-bits Windows XP Machine to test the above examples.


snip


As you can see, there is no reference to liby.dll. I could add the library
(-ly) directly to the compiling line of main and it works, but the truth is
that it would not be a good approach, since in the software I'm trying to
port, there are several dependent modules, so the last ones would have an
incredibly large list of dependencies.

So, am I doing something wrong? Is there any way to add the dependency to be
shown with ldd or any workaround(maybe a linker flag or something) to make
the above example work?


The Windows loader requires full resolution at link time.  You need to list
at least the import libraries for all dependencies if you want the link
to succeed.  Sorry, that's just the way Windows works.

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Re: WLMP cannot map to parent and Rebaseall fails for unknown reason.

2010-08-28 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/27/2010 12:11 PM, Oren Elrad wrote:

snip


PS. I know that WLMP is not Cygwin's problem. I was merely hoping that
some kind soul would point me in the right direction to rebasing all
my DLLs for a happy cygwin + WLMP family.


Have you considered http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#BLODA?

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Re: Will cron runnnnig as a service cause the server to lock up?

2010-08-26 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/26/2010 12:59 PM, Blaine Miller wrote:

I'm running cron as a service. Twice this week this server has died and needed
cold rebooting to get the system back.

Questions - First, will cron as a service on a Windows 2003 R2, standard
system cause this sort of behavior?


No, that's an O/S issue (kernel or drivers).

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Re: mintty start menu icon

2010-08-26 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/26/2010 1:35 PM, Vincent Rivière wrote:

Andy Koppe wrote:

Quite a lot of work though for what's not exactly a critical issue.


I agree.

But I wonder why what works for the standard console icon does not work for
the mintty icon. Probably a special case.


Um, http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2010-08/msg00859.html.

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Re: Will cron runnnnig as a service cause the server to lock up?

2010-08-26 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/26/2010 1:37 PM, Blaine Miller wrote:

Hello, Larry,

I'm getting this message in the Event Log for cron kicking off...

The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( /usr/sbin/cron ) cannot be
found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or
message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able
to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and
Support for details. The following information is part of the event:
/usr/sbin/cron: PID 2160: (Administrator) CMD
(/cygdrive/c/scripts/xfer_nab_csnab.sh).

Does it mean anything?


That's an informational message only.

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Re: How/Where do I get an older version of Cygwin?

2010-08-26 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/26/2010 2:41 PM, Blaine Miller wrote:

I'm having cron and ssmtp issues with the new(er) version of Cygwin, 1.7.x.y.
Barring getting these items straightened out, how do I revert to an older
version?

I've been installing from a network setup.exe. I don't believe this leaves a
copy on a local system. My co-workers tell me there has to be a way to
retrograde to an older version.

Can anyone point me in the right direction? An older version of setup.exe
perhaps?


I'm not sure why you believe your problems are based in recent Cygwin
versions but if you wanted to backtrack to 1.5.x, see this link:

http://cygwin.com/#win-9x

This an unsupported version of 1.5.x so if you go there, you're on your own.
If your problems truly are the result of some recent change to Cygwin, your
best bet is to investigate them, report the problems, and work to get them
resolved, especially if something has regressed.  Otherwise, you'll be
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Re: How/Where do I get an older version of Cygwin?

2010-08-26 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/26/2010 3:03 PM, Blaine Miller wrote:

snip


PS... I read in the archives the following quote...

Rerun 'setup.exe' and pick Prev.

There is no such option that I can find...


Look at the page where you select packages, just above the list of
packages and to the right, next to the Category button.  Cur is
the default selected radio button.  Prev is one of the other
options.  There is also honest to goodness actual documentation:

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/setup-net.html#setup-packages

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Re: Build S-Lang Fail

2010-08-25 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/25/2010 8:58 AM, Csaba Raduly wrote:

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Steven Woody  wrote:


$ ldd /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-cygwin/4.3.4/cc1.exe
ntdll.dll =  /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/ntdll.dll (0x7c92)
kernel32.dll =  /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/kernel32.dll (0x7c80)
cyggcc_s-1.dll =  /usr/bin/cyggcc_s-1.dll (0x67f0)
cygwin1.dll =  /usr/bin/cygwin1.dll (0x6100)
ADVAPI32.DLL =  /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/ADVAPI32.DLL (0x77da)
RPCRT4.dll =  /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/RPCRT4.dll (0x77e5)
Secur32.dll =  /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/Secur32.dll (0x77fc)
cyggmp-3.dll =  /usr/bin/cyggmp-3.dll (0x63f4)
cygmpfr-1.dll =  /usr/bin/cygmpfr-1.dll (0x6cd8)



You could either run ldd on the DLLs (cyggcc_s-1.dll, cyggmp-3.dll and
cygmpfr-1.dll) or use depends.exe (http://www.dependencywalker.com/)
to try to identify the missing DLL.


'cygcheck' is also an option as well.

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Re: associating device names with cygdrive directories

2010-08-25 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/25/2010 2:49 PM, Charles D. Russell wrote:

What is the best way to find or predict the association of a given /dev/sd?
with the corresponding /cygdrive/?. Is there a good way to verify the
assignment before writing to the device with dd?


I think this link should help a little:

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html#pathnames-posixdevices

The POSIX device names are generated from the Windows information/layout
of these devices.  So your best bet is to look to Windows to get the
device number - drive letter association and then fill in the rest
from there.  There is no one-stop shopping utility that I know of
that will do all that for you.

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Re: associating device names with cygdrive directories

2010-08-25 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/25/2010 4:11 PM, Jeremy Bopp wrote:

On 8/25/2010 3:03 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 02:47:21PM -0500, Charles D. Russell wrote:

On Linux, the mount command reveals the association between filesystem
names and /dev/ names, but Cygwin mount doesn't tell.


Sorry that's not how the mount command works on Linux.  It's not always
easy to tell the device associated on linux either.  Sometimes you need
to look at dmesg output.  Unfortunately cygwin has nothing similar.


The wodim command from the cdrtools package includes logic (-scanbus
option) which is able to identify SCSI devices under Cygwin.  It doesn't
map them to the /dev namespace, but it shows that something like you
need may be possible.  Wodim is also able to take a drive letter and
directly use that when writing an ISO file to the drive.

Maybe you could start there and craft a tool to do what you need.


That might be the easiest way to creating a tool, since you'd have
existing logic to leverage.  But to answer your original question, you
can certainly use the information from Disk Management to figure out
the mapping.

http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/devices.cc?rev=1.31content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markupcvsroot=src

should help in that regard.  But essentially, Disk 0 = /dev/sda, etc.

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Re: Network drives ssh access

2010-08-24 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/24/2010 1:03 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:

--On Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:59 AM -0700 Quanah Gibson-Mount
qua...@zimbra.com wrote:


I log in as the build user via ssh, and ps -eaf shows me to sshd process
running as SYSTEM - proc 3376 with parent 3340 and a subprocess 1824 with
3376 as the parent.


Specifically, when logging in via remote ssh, both processes were owned by
SYSTEM. So the bit to run as the build user apparently doesn't actually
work.


A missing password is likely your problem, since that's at the heart of
your original problem really.  But I actually wasn't thinking of this option
as the solution to your problem when I pointed you at the FAQ.  Running
a service as the user you'll log in as is really just a workaround.
I was thinking more of:

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html#ntsec-nopasswd3

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Re: Cygwin setup not saving Create icon on Desktop setting?

2010-08-24 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/24/2010 1:49 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

Marco wrote:


see setup --help



-n --no-shortcuts Disable creation of desktop and start
  menu shortcuts


This is only a band-aid.  It does not change the fact that the program
doesn't save the status of that checkbox from run to run.


True but something else must be coming into play because I just tried
running as originally reported and saw no problem.

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Re: Network drives ssh access

2010-08-24 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/24/2010 4:35 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:

--On Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:19 PM -0400 Larry Hall (Cygwin)
 wrote:

  ^^
http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR  We don't encourage feeding
spammers.



A missing password is likely your problem, since that's at the heart of
your original problem really. But I actually wasn't thinking of this
option
as the solution to your problem when I pointed you at the FAQ. Running
a service as the user you'll log in as is really just a workaround.
I was thinking more of:

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html#ntsec-nopasswd3


Using the passwd -R bit did not change the behavior. I still am unable to
access the network share when logging in via SSH, but it works just fine when
starting cygwin locally.

I will note that the network share (CIFS) uses a different username/password
than my local user/password on the windows box (That, unfortunately, is not
under my control).

However, I set up the share using net use \\IP\share /savecreds, and that
does mount the drive to Windows at least every time without prompting, and
Cygwin locally is able to use it. It is only an issue with the SSH
connection.


Well, that's a completely different thing then.  You need Windows to
authenticate that share as the other user then.  I think you're stuck
with net use option of the FAQ.  You can either invoke it each time
you log in via ssh, put it in your favorite rc file, or have a separate
script to do it (which you'd invoke each time).

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Re: P4 can't find the TMP directory?

2010-08-24 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/24/2010 4:35 PM, Jeremy Bopp wrote:

On 8/24/2010 3:28 PM, Mathew Shember wrote:

Hello,

Trying to simply do a p4 client and will receive this message:

$ p4 client
CreateProcess: vim C:\DOCUME~1\nasinteg\LOCALS~1\Temp\t3428t76.tmp: The 
system ca
nnot find the file specified.

Client side operation(s) failed.  Command aborted.


I verified the configs for perforce and they are correct.

The path info is the basic windows env for XP.

I've tried playing with the paths but no luck.


vim is located in /usr/bin and is actually symlink to
/etc/alternatives/vim, and that is in turn a symlink to
/usr/bin/gvim.exe.  The problem is that Windows-native programs don't
know about Cygwin symlinks.  You'll need to configure p4 to run the
gvim.exe file rather than the vim symlink.


Or there's the Cygwin-enabled version:

http://www.perforce.com/downloads/perforce/r10.1/bin.cygwinx86/p4.exe

It should be noted that:

  1. I haven't tried this version recently.  It could be hopelessly broken
 now for all I know.

  2. There is no source for the above executable so this is (still) in
 violation of the GPL AFAICS.

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Re: Network drives ssh access

2010-08-24 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/24/2010 4:57 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:

--On Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:49 PM -0400 Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:


However, I set up the share using net use \\IP\share /savecreds, and that
does mount the drive to Windows at least every time without prompting,
and Cygwin locally is able to use it. It is only an issue with the SSH
connection.


Well, that's a completely different thing then. You need Windows to
authenticate that share as the other user then. I think you're stuck
with net use option of the FAQ. You can either invoke it each time
you log in via ssh, put it in your favorite rc file, or have a separate
script to do it (which you'd invoke each time).


I've yet to get net use to work for me via cygwin.

net use Z: \\W.X.Y.Z\Share password

tries to prompt me with a question:

Z: has a remembered connection to \\W.X.Y.Z\Share. Do you want to overwrite
the remembered connection? (Y/N) [Y]: No valid response was provided

I.e., it never gives me the opportunity to answer the question.

If I try changing the drive letter, I get error 67, the network name cannot
be found.

Note that net use by itself continues to show the Unavailable status for
the Z: drive with that share.


Specifying the needed user name may help.  Otherwise, remove the saved
credentials and specify the user name and password directly when you
invoke the command.

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Re: Network drives ssh access

2010-08-23 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/23/2010 7:47 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:

I have a network drive set up to auto-reconnect at startup, which appears to
work fine. If I start cygwin after logging in, I can see the drive in the
/cygwin directory.

However, I cannot see the drive in the /cygwin directory when connecting via
Cygwin's OpenSSH. My guess is that ssh starts before the drive shows up. Running
net use from the SSH connection says it is unavailable:


snip

The FAQ is your friend:

http://cygwin.com/faq/faq-nochunks.html#faq.using.shares

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Re: Shared folsers under Vista

2010-08-22 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/22/2010 10:19 PM, Steve Holden wrote:

Folders that I create with Cygwin using mkdir appear to be shared - sort
of. They are denoted with the shared folder icon, and when I use Windows
Explorer to delete them I get the warning about the folder being shared.

When I look at the folder's properties, however, Explorer insists the
the folder is not shared.

Can someone explain how to avoid the sharing in the first place? It
doesn't seem to happen to everyone.


http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2007-11/msg00456.html?

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: cygwin-1.7.6-1

2010-08-21 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/20/2010 8:56 PM, Angelo Graziosi wrote:

Corinna Vinschen wrote:

- Improve performance of stat and a few other functions. ls(1) should
be up to 30% faster


I have a directory (500MB, 30 files) which contains mainly 'exe' (setups for
TB, FF, OO etc.). If I try 'ls -l' in this directory, the first time it take
about 30 seconds to list the files. After the first time, the listing is
almost without delay. The same happens also with 'ls -l /usr/bin'.

When there is the 'hang' (30 secs.), Task Manager shows that AVG9 takes about
 50% of CPU: this occurs *only* with 1.7.6 but _not_ with 1.7.5, with which
'ls -l' is almost immediate, regardless of the number and type of files.

Obviously I have tested this, each time, with a 'fresh machine', to avoid
'cache' effects.

The system is WinXP SP3, AMD Athlon 64X2DC 2.03GHz, 1.75GB RAM.


Try a recent snapshot:

http://cygwin.com/snapshots/

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Re: Cygwin 1.7 problems on Windows XP SP2

2010-08-20 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/20/2010 11:28 AM, Baldur Gislason wrote:

Hi, I recently installed the latest version of cygwin after using previous
(1.5) versions without problems. Almost nothing works on 1.7 and even after
reinstalling my machine
I still have the same problem. My machine runs Windows XP SP2.
My install.log.full has a lot of errors like this one:
3879146 [main] bash 3716 fork: child -1 - died waiting for longjmp before
initialization, retry 0, exit code 0x100, errno 11
4 [main] bash 3872 C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe: *** fatal error - couldn't
allocate heap, Win32 error 487, base 0x6D, top 0x74, reserve_size
454656, allocsize 458752, page_const 4096
This doesn't only happen with bash, it was also happening with other apps
such as rsync before I reinstalled the operating system. Any ideas or hints
for diagnosing this? Can I acquire an older setup.exe and try installing a
previous version of cygwin? Full log is at
http://foo.is/~baldur/setup.log.full.gz


If you look in the email archives for messages with similar complaints,
you'll find that this kind of problem is most commonly the result of one
of two things:

  1. You need to install the rebase package, read its README, and run
 rebaseall as prescribed.

  2. http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#BLODA

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Re: Cygwin 1.7 problems on Windows XP SP2

2010-08-20 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/20/2010 3:31 PM, Steve Holden wrote:

On 8/20/2010 11:34 AM, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:

On 8/20/2010 11:28 AM, Baldur Gislason wrote:

Hi, I recently installed the latest version of cygwin after using
previous
(1.5) versions without problems. Almost nothing works on 1.7 and even
after
reinstalling my machine
I still have the same problem. My machine runs Windows XP SP2.
My install.log.full has a lot of errors like this one:
3879146 [main] bash 3716 fork: child -1 - died waiting for longjmp before
initialization, retry 0, exit code 0x100, errno 11
4 [main] bash 3872 C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe: *** fatal error - couldn't
allocate heap, Win32 error 487, base 0x6D, top 0x74, reserve_size
454656, allocsize 458752, page_const 4096
This doesn't only happen with bash, it was also happening with other apps
such as rsync before I reinstalled the operating system. Any ideas or
hints
for diagnosing this? Can I acquire an older setup.exe and try
installing a
previous version of cygwin? Full log is at
http://foo.is/~baldur/setup.log.full.gz


If you look in the email archives for messages with similar complaints,
you'll find that this kind of problem is most commonly the result of one
of two things:

   1. You need to install the rebase package, read its README, and run
  rebaseall as prescribed.

   2.http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#BLODA


Supplementary: what do you do when rebaseall fails to work? I've tried
to post my cygcheck output a couple of times, but perhaps gmane has
volume limits. Guess I could use e-mail ...


What's email? ;-)

If rebaseall is failing, then that makes me think that some kind of
BLODA is your real issue.

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Re: rlwrap is ancient -- maintained?

2010-08-19 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/19/2010 5:02 PM, Daniel Colascione wrote:

The version of rlwrap in Cygwin is very old; the manpage dates it to
2005. Is the package still maintained? If not, does it need a new
maintainer? :)


The listed maintainer is Mauricio Antune but my admittedly limited search
for any recent activity on the list from him didn't turn up anything.
Perhaps he's moved on.  Or maybe he's still here lurking.  It makes sense
to check.  Mauricio, you here?  If so, are you willing to update rlwrap?
Would you prefer Daniel take over?

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Re: X-forwarding very very slow

2010-08-18 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/18/2010 11:50 AM, Daniel Colascione wrote:

On 8/18/10 8:43 AM, Alberto Canestrelli wrote:

I have a problem with Cygwin. I am connecting from USA by ssh to the
Hector supermachine in Edinburgh ( I write startx in Cygwin and then I
use  ssh -Y  v1aca...@login.hector.ac.uk ). Everything works fine, the
only problem is that the forwarding of the windows is very very slow. It
takes sometimes also up to 5 minutes to open a new window. I am
debugging a code with Totalview and it is a impossible to work. I am in
contact with the Hector support and with their computer they tried to
run Cygwin under windows and connecting by ssh (exactly like I am doing)
and they say that x-forwarding  is fast.


The performance they're seeing probably has little to do with their
Cygwin version --- they're a lot closer, after all, so support's latency
is probably a lot lower.


Agreed.  I would point out, however, that the OPs Cygwin versions are
pretty out-of-date as well.  Though I'm not sure it will help in this
particular matter, it's worth thinking about upgrading.

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Re: endless problems with SSHD - bug ??

2010-08-18 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/18/2010 1:27 PM, Bob Goldberg wrote:

Larry - Tx much for your reply...

well even if chroot is faked (not sure what that means) - I might still be
inclined to use it...


fake == it does nothing.  chroot is barely more than an empty shell (no pun
intended).  You won't find anyone seriously recommending its use.


Unless - is there a way I can LIMIT activity to only scp?
AND - prevent accessing outside what would be my jail?

I certainly did miss that very well titled document - no wonder my searches
were fruitless!! :-)  I'll check to make sure the path is getting set
correctly. Although, if I get scp running like I want, then I no longer
need/care about resolving this problem


If you need to restrict access, your best bet is to use Windows permissions.

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Re: 1.7.5 - Invoking excel/word using vbscript in ssh session from Linux

2010-08-17 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/17/2010 5:44 AM, Mehta, N.V. wrote:

Hi,

I am starting SSH session from a Linux box to CYGWIN on Windows XP. In this
session I call a vbscript which invokes MS word or Excel 2007 to export file
to PDF. The command is: ssh -n -T winu...@windownode csscript xls2pdf.vbs
xls_file_path pdf_file_path or ssh -n -T winu...@windownode csscript
doc2pdf.vbs doc_file_path pdf_file_path

I have already passwordless login setup using ssh-keygen and
authorized_keys.

The script starts Word and Excel as I can see the corresponding process in
the Task Manager. But it seems both Word and Excel are hanging and doing
nothing.

If I use wsscript instead of csscript, the wsscript process can be found in
Task Manager, but no word or excel, so wsscript is hanging.

There are several messages like this in the mailing list, but no resolution.

Can some one help?


Try it with password authentication.  If that works, visit

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html#ntsec-setuid-overview

From this list of options, you can pick and configure the mechanism that
works best for you.

FWIW, this basic issue has been discussed many times in the email archives
with multiple pointers to this documentation.  YMMV.

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Re: Cygwin 1.7.5 segfault during setup

2010-08-17 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#TOFU  Reformatted.

On 8/17/2010 8:56 AM, Steve Marotta wrote:

On 8/16/2010 7:37 PM, Steve Holden wrote:

Your first line of attack should be to replace your current setup.exe
with a fresh copy downloaded from cygwin.com.

I am running the latest and greatest version of setup.exe.


The log you sent originally says otherwise:


warning: LOG: 2 Starting cygwin install, version 2.697

   ^

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Re: Path conversion issue

2010-08-17 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/17/2010 2:58 PM, Andrey Repin wrote:

Greetings, Csaba Raduly!


diff.exe -cdb -x CVS -x .svn -I \$Id.*\$ --strip-trailing-cr --
C:\...\php-tools\GalleryClass.php
\\REMOTE\C$\...\php-tools\GalleryClass.php
diff: \REMOTE\C$\...\php-tools\GalleryClass.php: No such file or directory

Why it ate the leading backslash?


'\' is a escape character for Cygwin just the way it is in UNIX/Linux.
You either need to escape it or, better yet, use forward slashes.


Neither is possible without sophisticated wrapper... This is called from menu
entry in FAR Manager.
:( I'd, however, try to get this through as a feature request...


Or protect the backslashes: use single quotes



'\\REMOTE\C$\...\php-tools\GalleryClass.php'


Unfortunatelly...

diff.exe -cdb -x CVS -x .svn -I \$Id.*\$ --strip-trailing-cr -- 
'\\REMOTE\C$\...\GalleryClass.php' 'C:\...\GalleryClass.php'
diff: \REMOTE\C$\...\GalleryClass.php: No such file or directory


Seems like if you can change the quotes, you're very close to being
able to invoke 'cygpath' to do the conversion you need.  Since I know
nothing about Far Manager, I don't know if this is a small step or a
huge leap.  But I figured I'd through it out there.

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Re: endless problems with SSHD - bug ??

2010-08-17 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/17/2010 5:28 PM, Bob Goldberg wrote:

running cygwin 1.7.6; trying to copy files from a win2k wkstn to a win2k
server.
running within a windows domain; but not using domain for authentication;
using public keys.

I have read every bit of content I can find, and can't find any answers to
my problems. I:
1) HAVE installed sshd with the host-config script
2) rebaseall  peflagsall after last install/update
3) have checked EVERY entry in any conf file I can think of/locate

Maybe I should start with what I want, and where I'm at. It's the pursuit of
what I want that has led me down DOZENS of tangential problematic paths.

I simply want to copy files from 1 pc to another using a script initiated by
either a user or cron entry. Ideally this would happen using scp into a
chroot'ed environment.


chroot on Cygwin is completely faked.  Don't use it.  It will cause
headaches.

As for your problem with ssh command, you've apparently missed this
appropriately titled tidbit in your googling:

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2000-07/msg01050.html

This may just be because you're trying to use 'rbash' as your login shell.
I didn't test that theory.

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Re: cygwin 1.7 lock directory problem

2010-08-17 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/17/2010 10:44 PM, Huang Bambo wrote:

cygwin version: 1.7.6(0.230/5/3) 2010-08-16 16:06 i686 Cygwin

I don't know if this happen to previous version or not.

If I first cd to a directory, for example /cygdriver/x
then cd to a virtual directory, for example /proc
the /cygdriver/x will be locked untile I change director to other
non-virtual directory.

Is this a bug or designed to do so?


Do you have a series of steps that produces the problem you see?

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Re: make not working in cygwin when trying to install a framework!

2010-08-16 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/16/2010 12:47 PM, Mahesh P wrote:

hi!

1)I unzipped the CUnit test framework from the bash shell in cygwin
and tried installing it

./configure-works
make command gives me an error saying
cd .  autoheader
/bin/sh : autoheader:command not found
make:*** [config.h.in]Error 127.
make install works
make clean works

I am not able to compile the program


http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=autoheader

Looks like it wants autoconf.

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Re: 1.7.5 XWin trouble

2010-08-16 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/16/2010 7:50 PM, Russell Peterson wrote:

Hello,

After having recently upgraded to cygwin 1.7.5, I have noticed a
strange problem with my xterm windows.  Everything works just fine
until I use windows remote desktop to control the system with the
XWin server and xterm windows on it.  At that point, the fonts in the
xterm windows become unreadable (all sorts of strange colors and
garbage)... XWin becomes unresponsive at that point and I need to
restart it.  I think it crashed (stackdump included).

I have no idea what this could be.  Any clues as to what I am looking for?


Since your issue is with Cygwin-X, you should send it to the cygwin-xfree
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Re: Path conversion issue

2010-08-16 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/16/2010 10:03 PM, Andrey Repin wrote:

Greetings, All!

Trying to find differences between local and remote file, I run into an issue:

diff.exe -cdb -x CVS -x .svn -I \$Id.*\$ --strip-trailing-cr -- 
C:\...\php-tools\GalleryClass.php \\REMOTE\C$\...\php-tools\GalleryClass.php
diff: \REMOTE\C$\...\php-tools\GalleryClass.php: No such file or directory

Why it ate the leading backslash? Isn't it supposed to convert UNC path to
proper one? User's guide tell me this shouldn't be an issue, or so I read it
this way. Can anyone enlighten me on this matter, please?


'\' is a escape character for Cygwin just the way it is in UNIX/Linux.
You either need to escape it or, better yet, use forward slashes.

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Re: bash becomes a directory in win 7? LOL

2010-08-13 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/13/2010 9:32 AM, mike marchywka wrote:

I'm trying to popup new bash windows from a script and getting lots
of wierd problems. First, I seem to have to run the cygwin window as
admin, ok fine I can click on that. After playing around for a while,
I was able to get cmd start bash to run ok but the children seemed to
lose admin startus if I closed the parent. Anyway, at some point they
stopped working
and I checked cygwin/bin and apparently bash was now a directory. If I
copied bash.exe over it things started working again? I moved the old
bash dir to bash_wtf and now if is called bash_wtf.exe and appears
as a dir. Something up with links?


Thanks, pointing out something obvious and stupid is welcome as long
as it fixes the problem, LOL


Sounds like a bug in your scripts or a virus.

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Re: CygWin Security amp;amp; Performance Issues

2010-08-12 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/12/2010 3:15 PM, Spiro Trikaliotis wrote:

* On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 02:29:27PM -0400 Robert Jacobson wrote:

On 8/12/2010 10:02 AM, Corinna Vinschen  wrote:


Ok, I'll not waste my time and reply to you another time.  That makes
both of us happy.


Is this what passes for professional behavior at Red Hat?


You mean, the co-leader of the project should let herself be insulted
from a person who got his answers, but did not even give a thank you?
Note also that this is the open Cygwin list. That is, this is not a
paid support channel. I would consider it more like some people give
advice for free, and not necessarily with the hat of Red Hat.

I'll go back in lurk mode again...


Please, let's close down this off-topic thread as Chris requested:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2010-08/msg00316.html

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Re: OpenSSH: 5791 [main] sshd 9288! spawn_guts: CreateDesktop failed, Win32 error 8

2010-08-11 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/11/2010 10:14 AM, carsten.porz...@spb.de wrote:

Dear Cygwin community,

unfortunately we got on some of our Windows 2003 servers this error
message while logging on by using OpenSSH

5791 [main] sshd 9288! spawn_guts: CreateDesktop failed, Win32 error 8

This error message occurs after the server has been rebooted.

If log on once at the Windows console as a user with local admin
privileges, also the SSH logon works again.

We are using Cygwin CYGWIN_NT-5.2 d20of001 1.7.0(0.200/5/3) 2009-02-20
17:20 i686 Cygwin and OpenSSH 5.1.

Does anybody know the reason for this failure?


It's really not clear to me from the above whether you're dealing with
domain users in the failing case but if so, please read the following
FAQ:

http://cygwin.com/faq/faq-nochunks.html#faq.using.sshd-in-domain

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Re: Cannot run psql under Cygwin

2010-08-11 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/11/2010 11:57 AM, Clement, Sebastien wrote:

When I try to run psql (eg. psql -U myusername -d mydb) from Cygwin, it freezes.
When I run it from the DOS console, it works fine.


In that case, you need to run Cygwin's bash from a console (i.e. use
'cygwin.bat' as provided by 'setup.exe') and run 'psql' from there.
See the 'tty' option for the CYGWIN environment variable in the Users
Guide for more details:

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-cygwinenv.html

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Re: vi and vim

2010-08-11 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/11/2010 12:22 PM, Dave Robison wrote:

Hello,

At the risk of bringing down a cascade of derision, is there any way to
use vi instead of vim in cygwin?

I really prefer vi, but I can't seem to find a binary for it which isn't
linked to one iteration or another of vim.

If not, c'est la vie.


Cygwin provides the vim package, which creates a link to 'vim-nox.exe'
called 'vi'.  Unless you set 'nocompatible' in your ~/.vimrc, you will get
a vi-compatible version of vim.  vim is the only package in the Cygwin
distribution providing 'vi'.

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Re: Incomplete installation of subversion

2010-08-11 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/11/2010 4:51 PM, Andrey Repin wrote:

Greetings, Andy Koppe!


Setup.exe 2.712 with a fix for this and a few additional tweaks to the
Unmet dependencies page has been uploaded to http://cygwin.com.


Can't download it - server not sending file size, causing download to abort.


Works fine for me from here.  http://cygwin.com/setup.exe

Sounds like something is getting in the way.  Proxy?

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Update on status of make-3.82 release for cygwin

2010-08-10 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/10/2010 5:04 PM, Rob Walker wrote:

On 8/10/2010 1:21 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 01:13:41PM -0700, Rob Walker wrote:

On Cygwin, make-3.82 supports DOS paths by default. I'm curious about
what work might be involved in re-enabling the --ms-dos option, and I'd
like to help, if I can.

I built my Cygwin make-3.82 packages directly from the upstream release
tarball using the attached script.

I don't need help. I've been building make for years so I obviously
don't need your script.



Sorry for the confusion: I was not offering my script as hey look,
here's how you do it, I was more saying I did it this way, but maybe
that's too simple. What else is involved, and can I help with that?

So: I'm still curious about the work you anticipate might be required.
There's not much on the Cygwin site detailing the responsibilities of a
package maintainer beyond:


It's a maintainer's responsibility to decide what's the best way to
package the software for Cygwin.  Obviously, there are basic guidelines,
such as package naming, build scripts, and the like.  But the rest is
up to the maintainer.  So if a maintainer doesn't think a feature fits
well with Cygwin usage, then he/she is free to modify the package to
disable that feature.  Ditto if the feature is normally disabled but
would be better enabled for Cygwin.  This is the process that Chris is
going through right now for make-3.82.

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Re: Problem with subversion-apache2

2010-08-08 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

Again, http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR.  Don't feed the spammers.

On 8/6/2010 8:22 PM, Brian Wilson wrote:

Yep, I made sure to shut down all cygwin applications I am aware of that were
running which were shown in the Windows Services.  Unfortunately I don't know
what the errorno 6 means.


$ net helpmsg 6

The handle is invalid.

So it seems that you have an outdated dash.  Try updating that first
then rerun rebaseall.

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Re: mkpasswd (434): [31] A device attached to the system is not functioning.

2010-08-08 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/7/2010 4:46 PM, Linda Walsh wrote:

I'm willing to try again if anything has improved.  But there were also
issues about me signing off contracts to Redhat or something -- not
something normal to most open source projects...and that was a bit of a
put off as well.  Has anything changed?


I believe you are confused.  There are no contracts involved to build
Cygwin.  You would be asked to fill out an assignment form if you're
contributing anything of significant amount back (with what constitutes
significant being defined by Red Hat).  I won't speculate about the
particular conversation you refer to and how this came up or to what it
was referring specifically.  But if you're just looking for instructions
on building Cygwin, they're in the FAQ:

http://cygwin.com/faq/faq-nochunks.html#faq.programming.building-cygwin

I'll let you be the judge of whether anything there has changed from the
last time you tried to build the DLL.  It is, however, worth noting that
building the DLL is *not* necessary to build mkpasswd.  Certainly it's
easiest if you just grab the source for everything from CVS but if you're
just looking to be able to debug your mkpasswd issue, I'd recommend foregoing
any efforts, at least at the moment, to build the Cygwin DLL.  You won't need
to do that to investigate the problem with which you started this thread.

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Re: Using konsole in Cygwin

2010-08-06 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin X)

On 8/6/2010 4:21 AM, Thomas Dickey wrote:

On Fri, 6 Aug 2010, JOHNER Jean 066030 wrote:


On Thu, 5 Aug 2010, Thomas Dickey wrote:

iirc, cygwin has xterm, rxvt and rxvt-unicode


which are very nice tools. And also Mintty which is great.
But console has also interesting features (multiple shells in the same
window in different tabs for example).

From your answer, I conclude that konsole is not available in Cygwin.
I guess the answer is the same for GNOME-termimal.
Do you confirm?


that's my understanding - there was just this week a thread on this
list which stated that.


Right.  There are external ports of these but nothing in the distribution
right now.  As for other terminals with things like tabs, you can check
out Poderosa and/or Console2.

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Re: why was jar moved to jar-3? goog search suggest legacy of gcc-3 possibly?

2010-08-06 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/6/2010 8:46 AM, mike marchywka wrote:

I'm using this jar a lot for the -@ option and didn't find it right
away on new cygwin install but apparently it was just renamed. Is this
obsolete?


It's part of the gcc-java package which is part of the GCC-3 version.
gcc has been versioned to allow side-by-side installs of V3 and V4.
Executables in each package have been appropriately renamed.  'alternatives'
can be used to set up the desired default so that the typical names can
be used transparently.  See '/bin/set-gcc-default-3.sh' and
'/etc/set-gcc-default-4.sh' for some insight on that front.  Java, however,
isn't currently packaged for GCC4 so these scripts don't alias any of its
executables.  So if you want 'jar' instead of just 'jar-3', you'll have
to set this up through alternatives yourself for now at least.

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Re: Problem with subversion-apache2

2010-08-06 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#TOFU  Yuck!  Reformatted.
http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR.  Thanks.

On 8/6/2010 3:25 PM, Brian Wilson wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:03:21, Brian Wilson wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:53:46, Larry Hall wrote:

On 7/29/2010 5:48 PM, Dragos Toader wrote:

The problem has to do with package
subversion-apache 2 1.6.12-2

My apache2 daemon crashes when I try to start it
after adding
LoadModule authz_svn_module lib/apache2/mod_authz_svn.so
to
/etc/apache2/httpd.conf

/var/log/apache2/error_log reports
7424725 [main] httpd2 1000 C:\cygwin\usr\sbin\httpd2.exe: *** fatal
error - unable to remap \\?\C:\cygwin\lib\apache2\mod_authz_svn.so to
same address as parent: 0xC7 != 0xF1


This is caused by one of two things:

1. rebase problem - Install the rebase package, read the readme in
/usr/share/doc/Cygwin, and follow the instructions there to run
rebaseall.

2.http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#BLODA

I'd try 1 first.

I have similar problems with httpd2 as well as other occasional heap
space errors trying to start the bash shell.  I'm not a power user
of Cygwin; but I do read the User Guides and other web sites for
help/advise.  What I've set up I really like and I find this is
great for testing shell and Perl scripts.

I am running the latest Cygwin version (1.7.5 I think) on a Windows
XP Pro system with SP3 and the latest patches.  I ran cygcheck and
noted it says I don't have gcc, ld, or a few other compiler related
packages.  I don't use my cygwin for compiling much so I've never
installed them.  Shouldn't these be part of the dependency list for
the rebase package if they are required?Do I need to download
more packages (even though I just reinstalled rebase)?  I've
attached the cygcheck output file to help with the analysis.

I also note cygcheck says I have ZoneAlarm, which is incorrect.  I
believe it is detecting McAfee Total Protection and mis- identifying
it.  I know McAfee is on the BLODA list; but I had shut down all
file scanning before running rebaseall.  Do I need to turn something
more off?

I opened an Explorer window and located C:/cygwin/bin/ash.exe and
double clicked.  I tried to run the rebaseall command and got the
following.  What did I do wrong?  Any advise would be appreciated.

$ /bin/ps -eaf
  UID PIDPPID TTY STIME COMMAND
Brian S.   15996   1 con  08:26:57 /usr/bin/ash
Brian S.   12880   15996 con  08:32:06 /usr/bin/ps
$ /bin/rebaseall
ReBaseImage (/usr/bin/cyggcc_s-1.dll) failed with last error = 6


Is this the right board for rebase issues?  Should I be looking somewhere
else to determine which gcc and other tools I need.


Sounds like you still have other Cygwin processes running.  Did you read
the README?

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Re: Cygwin error

2010-08-05 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 8/4/2010 3:40 AM, Satheeshkumar K wrote:

Hi,
I am using windows xp operating system. yesterday i installed Cygwin
1.7.5 in my pc. but i am not able to open this.
When i run cygwin bat file through command prompt, i got the below error

C:\cygwin\cygwin.bat
AllocationBase 0x0, BaseAddress 0x6156, RegionSize 0xC, State
0x1
C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's heap,
Win32 error 6

Could you please assist me to fix this issue.

(I run the same setup on another machine,it is working fine for that
machine)


Sounds like http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#BLODA to me.  If not, try
installing the rebase package, read its README, and follow the
instructions for running 'rebaseall'.

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