missing 'which' documentation
Does anybody know or care that there is an option -- '-a' -- for 'which' -- that is not documented on Cygwin. That is, there is no internal help, and there is no 'man' or 'info' page provided by Cygwin install. If anybody wants this, I will find or create the 'man' page and make it cover '-a', and then do *what* with it? Pointers appreciated! To see the value of this option try (assuming you have MS executable directories in your path): which ping vs which -a ping which find vs which -a find and which dir == which -a dir i.e., 'dir' is an internal of 'cmd.exe' Lee Rothstein -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Mount Confusion -- the tallest pique in the world? ;-)
At 2003-10-31 01:08 PM, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Lee D. Rothstein wrote:
Either Cygwin or I be confused. (I'm betting on I. ;-))
Bingo.
I have deleted '/tmp' ('d:/Cygwin/tmp' -- using Explorer)
and issued: 'umount /tmp' and 'mount 'e:\tmp /tmp' repeatedly.
^^
Umm, why? Once should have been enough.
All the other mounts to '/' appear in an 'ls' of '/',
but '/tmp' ('e:/tmp'), does not.
What other mounts to /? / itself is a mount, but under it everything
should be either a real or virtual (/proc, /dev) directory.
/zc -- c:/
...
/zy -- y:/
Why do /zc, /zd, /ze, /zf, /zg, ... ('mount c:/ /zc', ...
'mount g:/ /zg, ...) appear in ls output when no prior
'mkdir's have been carried out. What's different between
/tmp and /everything else?
Prior to my doing any of the above (w/ Cygwin root at
'c:/_Programs/Cygwin'), I've had recurring instances of something
(apps?, 'setup.exe?, what?) creating 'tmp' and more frequently 'var' on
both my 'c:' and 'e:' drives. This problem seems to have subsided since
I moved the Cygwin root directory from 'c:/_Programs/Cygwin' to
D:/Cygwin'.
I'd bet you were installing as one user and running as another.
You'd lose that bet. Only one ID -- Administrator. Cygwin always
*only* installed for/by Administrator.
One thing I do not understand, however, is the appearance of the
owner/user SYSTEM on some files/directories when I do 'ls -l'.
Also, after I moved Cygwin, despite changing all the references in the
profile and Windows environment variables, *and* reinstalling the whole
of Cygwin, Cygwin insisted on looking at the C/_Programs... : root
rather than the D:/Cygwin... directory
Anybody know what's causing this?
Stale user mounts? Your /, /usr/bin and /usr/lib mounts appear to
be user mounts. You should probably remount them as system (i.e.,
'mount -f -s -b d:/Cygwin /', 'mount -f -s -b d:/Cygwin/bin /usr/bin',
'mount -f -s -b d:/Cygwin/lib /usr/lib', and 'umount -U').
This was most helpful. To have a copy of the wisdom expressed above
for future reference, I have written the following script:
#!d:/Cygwin/bin/bash
#
# ^Use absolute[ly brain dead (MS)] paths until mounts are corrected
#
# 'mountproperly' -- This script is only required if Cygwin 'setup.exe'
#configuration gets screwed up WRT mounted directories,
#I.e., Initialize all mounts to their desired parameters
#
# 2003-10-31 -- as per Cygwin List/Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
do1 () { # Make sure each drive/directory is mounted with the correct
# parameters:
d:/Cygwin/bin/umount$2 # 1st, unmount everything
d:/Cygwin/bin/mkdir $2 # 2nd, make a directory representation
# in the virtual root directory so that certain directories can show
# up at all as virtual directories (e.g., '/tmp')
d:/Cygwin/bin/mount -f -s -b $1 $2 # -f, force mount, don't warn about
# missing mount point directories
# -s, (default) add system-wide mount point; Lee: necessary? Default!
# -b, (default) text files are equivalent to binary files
# (newline = \n) Lee: necessary? It is the default.
}
d:/Cygwin/bin/umount -U # Unmount all user mounts. We want all mounts as
# system mounts, because ?
do1 d:/Cygwin /
d:/Cygwin/bin/mount -s -b -c / # -c -- change the cygdrive path prefix
# to / . This doesn't work? 'ls /c', nor 'ls //c', for example, does
# not list the c: drive! What am I not getting?
do1 d:/Cygwin/bin /usr/bin # any others, missing, here?
do1 d:/Cygwin/lib /usr/lib
mkdir /proc # Allows 'ls' 'cd's to this virtual directory/information
mkdir /dev
for drive in c d e f g h x y a s # Drive mount points don't need actual
# directories to show up in 'ls' output
# for some reason. Why are these
# different from '/tmp'?
do
umount ${drive}:/
mount -f -s -b ${drive}:/ /z${drive}
done
mount # See the corrected mounts
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Also, your system cygdrive prefix is marked textmode; you should change
it to binmode to avoid spurious errors (by 'mount -s -b -c /'). It's
not very safe to have it set to '/' anyway...
Please note that in the above script ('mountproperly'), I have tried
to include the advice of the above sentence, but it occurs to me that
I'm having trouble with the referents in the sentence.
As far as I know, my only cygdrive prefix is 'cygdrive'. Are you
saying it's also '/'? Note that in the script I am doing a
'mount -s -b -c /'. That's what you are advocating?
Should this be written up for the FAQ?
Oh, and another small thing:
cls = `() { cmd /c cls
}'
Why not install the clear package and 'function cls() { clear }'? ;-)
Igor
Artifact of a past limitation of 'clear'. It used
Re: Mount Confusion -- the tallest pique in the world!
At 2003-11-01 03:27 PM, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
At 2003-10-31 01:08 PM, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
Why do /zc, /zd, /ze, /zf, /zg, ... ('mount c:/ /zc', ...
'mount g:/ /zg, ...) appear in ls output when no prior
'mkdir's have been carried out. What's different between
/tmp and /everything else?
WAG: this may be due to the code that lists /cygdrive automatic mounts
(since your cygdrive prefix is set to /, you get your drives listed).
1st, the only cygdrive prefix that works on my system is /cygdrive/.
2nd, no matter what I set the prefix to /cyggdrive/ is the only
prefix that works.
3rd, even using your suggestion of 'mount -c -b -s /IIFOIALIP', for
example:
cd /IIFOIALIP/c/ # does not get me to c:/, whereas
cd /cygdrive/c/ # gets me there before during and after!!
Quite apart from the above:
Why (how is it that) I can get /zc ... /zy to show up in the output of 'ls /',
and I can do a cd to any of /z?, without creating respective directories in /
of /zc .. /zy?
I submit to the group that whatever inconsistency in implementation or
documentation is behind these problems, is the source of numerous
configuration problems that people are having. I have run into this
problem so many times that I refuse to let it rest until I understand
it.
Prior to my doing any of the above (w/ Cygwin root at
'c:/_Programs/Cygwin'), I've had recurring instances of something
(apps?, 'setup.exe?, what?) creating 'tmp' and more frequently 'var' on
both my 'c:' and 'e:' drives. This problem seems to have subsided since
I moved the Cygwin root directory from 'c:/_Programs/Cygwin' to
D:/Cygwin'.
I'd bet you were installing as one user and running as another.
You'd lose that bet. Only one ID -- Administrator. Cygwin always
*only* installed for/by Administrator.
Nope. Services run as LocalSystem (aka SYSTEM). :-p
I'm not getting the joke, and more importantly the point! Could someone
else jump in here who is not as proud of their own sense of humor.
One thing I do not understand, however, is the appearance of the
owner/user SYSTEM on some files/directories when I do 'ls -l'.
There you go. :-D
There I go where? I am not installing anything as SYSTEM. Cygwin
setup (?) must be doing it? Why? How? How do I keep the mismatches
from occurring again?
Also, after I moved Cygwin, despite changing all the references in the
profile and Windows environment variables, *and* reinstalling the whole
of Cygwin, Cygwin insisted on looking at the C/_Programs... : root
rather than the D:/Cygwin... directory
Anybody know what's causing this?
Stale user mounts? Your /, /usr/bin and /usr/lib mounts appear to
be user mounts. You should probably remount them as system (i.e.,
'mount -f -s -b d:/Cygwin /', 'mount -f -s -b d:/Cygwin/bin /usr/bin',
'mount -f -s -b d:/Cygwin/lib /usr/lib', and 'umount -U').
For the third time, why do I have to explicitly specify '-s' and '-b'
when the man page says they are each the default?
What other sub-root directories besides /usr/bin /usr/lib require mounting
for a valid Cygwin configuration?
As far as I know, my only cygdrive prefix is 'cygdrive'.
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Mount Confusion -- the tallest pique in the world? ;-)
Either Cygwin or I be confused. (I'm betting on I. ;-))
I have deleted '/tmp' ('d:/Cygwin/tmp' -- using Explorer)
and issued: 'umount /tmp' and 'mount 'e:\tmp /tmp' repeatedly.
All the other mounts to '/' appear in an 'ls' of '/',
but '/tmp' ('e:/tmp'), does not.
While the apps seem to find 'e:/tmp', should I be worried?
Prior to my doing any of the above (w/ Cygwin root at
'c:/_Programs/Cygwin'), I've had recurring instances
of something (apps?, 'setup.exe?, what?) creating 'tmp'
and more frequently 'var' on both my 'c:' and 'e:' drives.
This problem seems to have subsided since I moved the
Cygwin root directory from 'c:/_Programs/Cygwin'
to D:/Cygwin'.
Also, after I moved Cygwin, despite changing all the
references in the profile and Windows environment variables,
*and* reinstalling the whole of Cygwin, Cygwin insisted
on looking at the C/_Programs... : root rather than the
D:/Cygwin... directory
Anybody know what's causing this?
Note that at the end of the attached 'cycheck -shv', there is
the following error message:
cygcheck: dump_sysinfo: GetVolumeInformation() failed: 1
which seems to be coincidental when it checks the 'a:/' floppy drive.
Thanks,
Lee
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Re: setup hangs during postinstall
--- My tray-based background tasks include: * APC UPS Power Chute monitor * MS chain interconnect hardware manager (for SCSI, FireWire) * MS speaker/audio control * NAV scanner (when not disabled) * Adaptec create CD One other difference that may be relevant is that I install all of Cygwin on my systems. Attached is the cygcheck from the Athlon system. -- Lee D. Rothstein -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] VeriTech -- 603-424-2900 7 Merry Meeting Drive Merrimack, NH 03054-2934 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: New package: libmcrypt-2.5.7-1
Thought you might find this interesting: Cygwin email list: At 2003-10-03 08:45 AM, you wrote: I have packaged the libmcrypt encryption library. Libmcrypt is a library that provides access to several symmetric block and stream encryption algorithms. The following algorithms are implemented: 3-Way, Arcfour, Blowfish, Cast-128 (known as Cast5), Cast-256, DES, Enigma, Gost, Loki97, Panama, RC2, Rijndael-128 (AES), Rijndael-192, Rijndael-256, Safer-sk64, Safer-sk128, Safer+, Serpent, TripleDES, Twofish, Wake, XTea. The block algorithms can be used in the modes CBC, CFB, CTR, ECB, OFB, NOFB and NCFB. Separate runtime and development packages are available. To update your installation, click on the Install Cygwin now link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Once you've downloaded setup.exe, run it and select Libs and then click on the appropriate field until the above announced version number appears if it is not displayed already. If you have questions or comments, please send them to the Cygwin mailing list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I would appreciate it if you would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly. This includes ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin in general. If you want to make a point or ask a question, the Cygwin mailing list is the appropriate place. CYGWIN-ANNOUNCE UNSUBSCRIBE INFO: = To unsubscribe from the cygwin-announce mailing list, look at the List-Unsubscribe: tag in the email header of this message. Send email to the address specified there. It will be in the format: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stefan Hetzl -- Lee D. Rothstein -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] VeriTech -- 603-424-2900 7 Merry Meeting Drive Merrimack, NH 03054-2934 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Looking for BIND utilities: dig, nslookup, etc. --
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'fortune', 'strfile' binmode
After significant searching, I
discovered that 'fortune' requires
'strfile' to create the index database
('.dat' file) for each text file of
fortunes.
('strfile' is not listed under See
also: 'man fortune' and hence does not
appear in the output of 'apropos
fortune'. The 'man' page needs to be
updated. I will do it myself, if someone
will explain how to submit the change.
This is a change to GNU fortune 'man'
page, not Cygwin anything.)
However, when I execute 'strfile' on a
fortune file -- say, 'fortune', to
produce an index file -- e.g.,
'fortune.dat', it doesn't quite get the
index right.
I've tried (I think) all combinations of:
* 'strfile', 'strfile -r'
* UNIX and DOS line endings and
character sets (LF vs CRLF, ANSI vs
DOS)
* Cygwin=nobinmode ... vs.
Cygwin=binmode ...
and no luck.
Suggestions?
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Running man by double clicking a man page, from Explorer?
Since 'man' pages for commands all have the same extension
('.1'), it seems to me that it should be possible to write a
batch file that calls 'bash' that 'invokes' man for the page?
This would allow you to double click a 'man 1' page, and voila, a
'cmd.exe'/'bash.exe' window would appear with the man page
displayed.
As it turns out, there are several things like this that I want
to do. So far, haven't been able to figure out how to do it.
Anybody solved this problem or proved it is unsolvable?
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'cygpath -ml posix_8.3_path' bug?
My reading of the cygpath documentation and embedded help is that: cygpath -ml /cygdrive/c/docume~1 or: cygpath --mixed --long-name /cygdrive/c/docume~1 should output: c:/Documents and Settings Of course: cygpath --mixed $(cygpath --windows --long-name /cygdrive/c/docume~1) does yields the correct results. Isn't this a bug in 'cygpath'? -- Lee D. Rothstein -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] VeriTech -- 603-424-2900 7 Merry Meeting Drive Merrimack, NH 03054-2934 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Cygwin + Oracle (Pro*C) + Your Mother
From: Gary R. Van Sickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cygwin + Oracle (Pro*C) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:26:46 -0600 At 22:34 2003-03-13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Mar 2003, günter strubinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I am lost right now. Maybe you can't see the way because all that html is in the way. Right. And that silly ASCII business is overkill, too. I'm starting a new campaign to go back to Fieldata and Baudot. Who needs all that fancy-pants punctuation? If you can't get your meaning across with letters, numbers, comma, period and quotes (and, of course, the all-important dollar $ign), you just don't know how to communicate. Oh, yeah, and parentheses, of course... Hell, Fieldata has six unused codes. What a waste! Better stick to Baudot. RRS Pfhht, Fieldata, Baudot! Kids today and their MIL-STD's and their letter sets and their figure sets, bah! Why, in my day, we had to press crude wooden styli into wet clay tablets to exchange information! Me. And when the clay dried and turned rock-hard before you were finished, you'd get slivers from the stylus embedded in your fingers. And the slivers would get infected, and pus would ooze all over your clay tablet, and we'd exchange pus- stained clay-tablet information and that's the way it was AND WE LIKED IT! We loved it. We couldn't get enough of it. Yeah, we liked it just fine. Two 'important' points were left out of this 'cogent' summary: * The data had to walk uphill in both directions on the transmission line * Rosanne Rosannadanna lives! 'If it's not one thing it's another ...' Well stroked youse guys. ;-) And, I apologize for not encoding my message thusly: ooo. o . ooo o. o oo . oo oo.oo o.o o . o . . . . -- Lee D. Rothstein -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] VeriTech -- 603-424-2900 7 Merry Meeting Drive Merrimack, NH 03054-2934 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
.com other executable filename extensions
Anybody know why under both cygwin.bat 'cmd.exe', I must explicitly type the '.com' extension in order to get a '.com' file to execute. I've tried adding the following line to 'cygwin.bat': set PATHEXT=%PATHEXT%;.sf;.ksf;.cmd;.com;.exe;.bat;.awk;.pl;.py No help. If this is covered anywhere in the documentation, it's got me fooled. Lee -- Lee D. Rothstein -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] VeriTech -- 603-424-2900 7 Merry Meeting Drive Merrimack, NH 03054-2934 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Lovable Cygwin the Enterprise
Patrick,
Congratulations.
May I use the message below in
an article I'm writing on use of Cygwin
and related software (e.g., OpenOffice
-- OO) in the enterprise?
Also, if you'd care to comment further
on how you used PostgreSQL client (PGSC)
in this endeavor, please do so.
Patrick, et al.,
What did you use to do the push? PGSC?
Have you looked at 'rdist'
(http://rdist.org)? Will 'rdist'
compile run under Cygwin?
Have you used 'ssh','sftp', 'scp',
'sshd', etc.?
('rdist' can use 'ssh' as transport.)
If you'd like to share any more of your
experiences, I'd appreciate it?
What is the range of use, for example,
of OO and other open source (including
Cygwin), by your users? (range == #
and pkg/app. E.g.: 9 users of WP in OO;
8, short documents, only; 1 some
technical reports graphics (Gimp for
Windows) with sections and
styles. 2 actually write shell scripts,
1 for the administration of a Linux
server)
Perhaps we should take this interchange,
offline? I'll post summaries, regardless.
Thanks, Lee
From: Patrick Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CygWin List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I love cygwin
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:41:44 -0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
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charset=iso-8859-1
OK it official... I love you cygwin!
Upgraded my company's remaining Windows
users off Office to OpenOffice. Was
having a problem with datasources and
not having a Linux box handy I loaded up
cygwin (and postgresql client). I was
able to trouble shoot all my problems.
It was great... so great that I pushed a
cygwin install out to all the remaining
Windows users. I just love this stuff.
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Re: remapping Cygwin 'bash' readline functions to PC keys
John, thanks for the C-V heads up! Others had suggested, variations of 'cat foo' and 'od -c'. (The former I got to work, the latter remains a mystery.) Your solution, besides being the most straight-forward, is also a great tool to have around. Apparently, it's a feature of Cygwin, or 'bash', since it doesn't work in a naked 'cmd.exe' window. I'll be sure to add it to my documentation. Unfortunately the key combos I'm trying to map to are: ^-- and ^-- (control- and the right and left arrow keys). It turns out that the character string outputs for both the: * naked key * shift - and the naked key * control- and the naked key are all the same. Actually, I no longer consider these to be KIDs; these are the character string graphemic outputs of hitting the key. I'll continue to reserve KIDs for when one represents these [and the key isomorphisms] with '/e...', 'C-...', etc. notation. Apparently (?), the only way to discriminate among these three alternatives is with Scan Codes. Apparently, all the -x-ish stuff I've used (Microemacs, Thompson shell command line editing) that can discriminate among the three alternatives all use Scan Codes (?). - Any way to map to Scan Codes to 'bash' 'readline' functions under Cygwin? + Or to key names like: 'CTRL-left-arrow', 'CTRL-HOME' - Any interest among Cygwin developers in adding this? At 2003-02-19 08:02 AM -0800, John Mapole wrote: ... You can build your own KID table. Once at the cygwin prompt you can type C-V, that's control-V, followed by the key. On my machine, if I type C-VINSERT, I see ^[[2~. This is the same as \e[2~. Why these mapping are like this relates to how windows maps them and then how cygwin maps them. Something I am now very clear on. Hope this helps some. John Mapoles --- Lee D. Rothstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Q1 -- When you remap a 'bash' Edit Mode function in .inputrc, it looks like this: \e[3~: delete-char # DEL key The entity in double quotes (\e[3~), I'm calling the key ID (KID). In the above '.inputrc' declaration, the function 'delete-char' being remapped from its default key assignment to the KID -- \e[3~ -- the DEL key. What are the KIDs of the following IBM PC keys (specified below with facsimiles of the key caps contained in angle brackets -- '...')? Cursor control key pad -- HOME END left-arrow right-arrow PAGE_UP PAGE_DOWN INSERT Numeric pad --- - + ENTER / I should have included in the above lists, all variations of the above with the control, alt and shift keys. In general, I'd like a table that maps the KIDs for all 104 keys on the keyboard I use. Or, better still, is there a way to use scan codes? (Incidentally, what makes finding a table of these KIDs so difficult is the failure of the documentation to assign this concept a unique, or even a consistent word.) Q2 -- Is there a way to make the INSERT key a toggle between the insert and overwrite modes of 'bash' edit mode? I used to have these figured out for 'Microemacs', but that was half a lifetime ago, for me, Microemacs supported scan codes, if I remember correctly. -- Lee D. Rothstein -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] VeriTech -- 603-424-2900 7 Merry Meeting Drive Merrimack, NH 03054-2934 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: remapping Cygwin 'bash' readline functions to PC keys
re: using 'rxvt' to be able to discriminate between C-left-arrow ^ left-arrow, etc. in Cygwin 'bash' 'readline' John Mapoles, et al., Are you saying that I should try using use 'rxvt' in a console window as the interface to *Cygwin*? Remember, I'm not interfacing to another host when I run 'bash', in this instance. 'bash' is *not* remote. It's *not* running on *u*x. It's running on the local W2K or WXP machine running Cygwin. (BTW, I'm sorry if you knew this, but I've gotten such strange responses from some folks to this line of queries that I can't help but wonder how many really understand what I'm asking.) Can I only do that if I run the 'rxvt' server (daemon) too? And, if so, would I still be able to launch windowed (GUI) Windows applications from a 'bash' command prompt? If this would actually work, what percentage of my MPU, am I throwing down a rat hole? ;-) If this were to work, wouldn't that mean that 'rxvt' server or client was looking at the scan codes? So 'rxvt' server operates at a lower level than the console handler? Or, is all of this a problem with the implementation of the terminal (console) handler (or, terminfo translator) in Cygwin? Or, am I more confused than I thought I was? BTW, running 'ssh' in a Cygwin window to a Linux machine, does not fix the control/naked arrow key discrimination problem and resetting the 'TERM' environment variable on Cygwin to anything other than 'Cygwin' generates errors in applications like 'man' that use screen character cell control and doesn't fix the problem for my terminal window for the remote machine (I think). See below. Thanks, Lee At 2003-02-20 02:03 PM -0800, john mapoles wrote: Lee, This is very similar to a problem that I've had in Vim. I build a library of maps from the Vim actions to simpler actions, i.e. I like to map F4 to delete line ( F4 is usually ^[[[D on a windows box ). On most UNIX platforms things like right-arrow and control right-error are different. As you pointed out this is not so on a windows box. I've just begun to play with rxvt. This has the feel of a UNIX xterm but is also similar to a command window. But, rxvt uses a more robust map. On my machine I get: --^[[C ^--^[Oc rxvt can probably re-map any key by the correct choice of termcaps (something I do not know how to do). Try rxvt. BTW, my guess is the problem is not the map. but whether some level of console handler looks at the character output from the keyboard rather than the scan codes, and whether the Cygwin DLL writers want to go down to the right level? At any rate what is the local 'terminfo' database on Cygwin for? ssh in? rxvt in? Incoming 'telnet' traffic? jm -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
.inputrc and command line edit mode function key remapping
Think of this as a brief FUQ (a veritable 'Quickie', as it were) -- Frequently Unanswered Questions Disclaimer/Alibi These are really questions for the 'bash' group, except that they specifically deal with the PC and its keyboard (*and* I'm using 'bash' on Cygwin). I've searched for answers throughout the Cygwin, 'emacs' and 'bash' documentation, and the Web and even bought the book, /Learning the bash shell/. Alas, no FUQing help! ;-) I plan to document this in some copylefted docs, so you should be able to leverage the time of your answers. Q1 -- When you remap a 'bash' Edit Mode function in .inputrc, it looks like this: \e[3~: delete-char # DEL key The entity in double quotes (\e[3~), I'm calling the key ID (KID). In the above '.inputrc' declaration, the function 'delete-char' being remapped from its default key assignment to the KID -- \e[3~ -- the DEL key. What are the KIDs of the following IBM PC keys (specified below with facsimiles of the key caps contained in angle brackets -- '...')? Cursor control key pad -- HOME END left-arrow right-arrow PAGE_UP PAGE_DOWN INSERT Numeric pad --- - + ENTER / In general, I'd like a table that maps the KIDs for all 104 keys on the keyboard I use. Or, better still, is there a way to use scan codes? (Incidentally, what makes finding a table of these KIDs so difficult is the failure of the documentation to assign this concept a unique, or even a consistent word.) Q2 -- Is there a way to make the INSERT key a toggle between the insert and overwrite modes of 'bash' edit mode? I used to have these figured out for 'Microemacs', but that was half a lifetime ago, for me, and Microemacs supported scan codes, if I remember correctly. The discerning reader will have surmised both from these questions and my earlier query 'on the humble DEL key', that I am trying to make a PC, under the estimable Cygwin, exploit those few niceties of the PC (keyboard). Thanks Lee P.S. In anticipation of the righteous among you being offended by the term 'FUQ', I shared your indignation; it occurred shortly after buying the ill-fated -- and referenced -- 'bash' book. (Yes, it's true; I'm bashing the 'bash' book.) And, please, whatever you do, don't kid a KIDer. ;-) Lee D. Rothstein -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] VeriTech -- 603-424-2900 7 Merry Meeting Drive Merrimack, NH 03054-2934 -- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
The humble DEL and other editing keys
Since at least 1979, when I started using Warren Montgomery's Emacs on System III UNIX, I have been annoyed with DEC's and RMS's treatment of the DEL (or RUBOUT key as they called it. In those days, I reconfigured my keyboard to fix this abortion. I want DEL to do what any self-respecting DEL should do, namely delete the character at the cursor. Anyone know how to do this with Cygwin command line editing? Anyway, to get CTRLright-arrow or CTRLleft-arrow to move a word at a time? I am willing to accept RMS as my god, minus this one hamartia. ;-) Help. Lest I forget: To all the Cygwin developers out there: - Thank you. - Outstanding work. - If you can fix Windoze, is there anything you can do about the weather? ;-|) Thanks! Lee P.S. I learned interactive computing on a PDP-8, so I've faced this DEC DEL issue since at least 1970, but once I saw a real DEL, I could never go back to the weakling DEL of DEC. You don't suppose this caused their demise? Lee D. Rothstein -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] VeriTech -- 603-424-2900 7 Merry Meeting Drive Merrimack, NH 03054-2934 -- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: The humble DEL and other editing keys
Elfyn, Thanks. See my comments and further questions, below. At 2003-02-14 06:18 PM +, Elfyn McBratney wrote: I want DEL to do what any self-respecting DEL should do, namely delete the character at the cursor. In bash you can add the following # DEL key in bash \e[3~: delete-char to your ~/.inputrc or your /etc/inputrc file to get a functioning DEL key. * ~/.inputrc works. /etc/inputrc doesn't. Why? * Is there documentation for this? Specific to Cygwin? Or, not necessary due to complete compatibility. Does terminfo, play a role, here? * How does one go about writing documentation for Cygwin? I'm interested. * What are the names of the forward and backward word keys in 'bash', and how do I set them to CTRL-right-arrow and CTRL-left-arrow. (I have the environment variable, 'EDITOR', set to 'TextPad.) Lee D. Rothstein -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] VeriTech -- 603-424-2900 7 Merry Meeting Drive Merrimack, NH 03054-2934 -- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
