Re: GCC maintainer going AFK.

2008-10-31 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I will try and stay attentive to the lists during this period; I am aware
 that I have a few outstanding emails to reply to, e.g. Marco A: I'm preparing
 a new release of gcc-4 with all DLLs for all the runtimes, and that will be
 available fairly soon, but I have a problem with typeinfo vs. libstdc++ DLL
 that I am currently working on a patch for ld before it can function
 correctly.


Someone spent their SoC doing major MingW improvements on the
compiler, including better handling of dwarf and pe weak symbols. It
might be worthwhile to see what can be ported over to Cygwin. It sure
would be nice to have pe weak symbols support in the cygwin loader...


Re: [RFC] 1.7 Packaging: Obsolete packages

2008-07-25 Thread Nicholas Wourms

Corinna Vinschen wrote:


   - Potentially case sensitivity file operations (on OSes and FSes
 supporting it).

Have managed mounts been fixed yet? Sorry, I've been out of the loop for quite 
awhile. Anyway, I noticed that Yakkov was using this feature in Cygwin Ports, so 
I thought I might inquire, since I'm curious as well. ;-)


Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: mktemp and util-linux vs. new coreutils

2008-01-27 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On Jan 24, 2008 9:10 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Moving arch to coreutils makes sense to me, but let me look at
 util-linux 2.13 before I commit to anything.

While you are at it, if/when you do another release of util-linux,
please update the cygport to install more.exe in /usr/bin, rather than
/bin (util-linux arch.exe is also doing this, too). It's superficial,
but it's probably a good idea for consistency's sake, since /usr/bin
== /bin.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: mktemp and util-linux vs. new coreutils

2008-01-27 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On Jan 27, 2008 9:17 AM, Christopher Faylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 07:25:23AM -0500, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
 On Jan 24, 2008 9:10 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Moving arch to coreutils makes sense to me, but let me look at
  util-linux 2.13 before I commit to anything.
 
 While you are at it, if/when you do another release of util-linux,
 please update the cygport to install more.exe in /usr/bin, rather than
 /bin (util-linux arch.exe is also doing this, too). It's superficial,
 but it's probably a good idea for consistency's sake, since /usr/bin
 == /bin.

 Uh, no.  This doesn't matter at all.  There is no reason to bother with
 this.


Actually, it does matter. The cygcheck utility believes there is a
difference.  For example, if I were to install the latest testing
version of coreutils, I would have no way of knowing that it just
clobbered arch.exe based on the information given by cygcheck. What if
Eric decides not to distribute it? Or I decide to revert back to the
stable version? Well I just got left with an inconsistent system. Just
like installation to /usr/man and /usr/info is discouraged, so should
installation to /bin and /lib. As the number of packages grows, it is
going to be tougher to catch this kind of thing. To persist with
packaging inconsistancies is not logical, especially given the nature
of our /bin and /lib. In any event, since he uses cygports, this is
merely a simple one line fix to the cygport file. I should think it
would be no bother at all, really, and better safe than sorry. If he
doesn't want to do it, then fine.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [1.7.0 HEAD]: Cygwin no longer encoding/decoding names on managed mounts

2008-01-15 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 On Jan 14 16:41, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
 Hi All,

 I'm not sure when this cropped up, but it happened sometime after the
 great win 9x code purge. The problem is that the Cygwin dll no longer
 decodes or encodes file/directory names on managed mounts.
 
 File handling in CVS HEAD is work in progress.  It's not stable.  Don't
 use it in a production environment.
 
Corinna,

I understand this and believe me it isn't a big deal. I just thought I would
toss it out there. I plan on giving gdb a whirl and see if I can't track it
down when I get a few hours to kill.

Cheers,
Nicholas

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[1.7.0 HEAD]: Cygwin no longer encoding/decoding names on managed mounts

2008-01-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Hi All,

I'm not sure when this cropped up, but it happened sometime after the
great win 9x code purge. The problem is that the Cygwin dll no longer
decodes or encodes file/directory names on managed mounts.


Steps to reproduce (WinXP SP2 x32):
---
1) mkdir -p /usr/src2
2) mount -b -s -o managed C:\\cygwin\\usr\\src2 /usr/src2
3) cd /usr/src2
4) mkdir -p FOO
5) ls -1 /cygdrive/c/cygwin/usr/src2

1.5.25(0.156/4/2) results:
--
Expected: %46%4F%4F
Actual: %46%4F%4F

1.7.0(0.179/4/2) results:
-
Expected: %46%4F%4F
Actual: FOO


For this test, I setup a fresh, default Cygwin install on another
machine. The Cygwin dll which was used was from the 1.5.25-7 package. I
ran the test and everything worked as expected. However, on the machine
with the Cygwin dll compiled from cvs HEAD, it did not. Running strace
on the mkdir -p FOO operation seems to confirm that the munging gets
skipped somewhere in the normalize_posix_path function.


strace snippet from 1.5.25(0.156/4/2):
--
[main] mkdir dll_crt0_1: user_data-main 0x4012A0
[main] mkdir __set_errno: void dll_crt0_1(void*):946 val 0
[main] mkdir normalize_posix_path: src FOO
[main] mkdir cwdstuff::get: posix /usr/src2
[main] mkdir cwdstuff::get: (/usr/src2) = cwdstuff::get (0x22C740, 260,
1, 0), errno 0
[main] mkdir normalize_posix_path: /usr/src2/FOO = normalize_posix_path
(FOO)
[main] mkdir mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: conv_to_win32_path
(/usr/src2/FOO)
[main] mkdir set_flags: flags: binary (0x2)
[main] mkdir mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: src_path /usr/src2/FOO, dst
C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2\%46%4F%4F, flags 0x80A, rc 0
__^
[main] mkdir symlink_info::check: GetFileAttributes
(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2\%46%4F%4F) failed
[main] mkdir geterrno_from_win_error: windows error 2 == errno 2
[main] mkdir symlink_info::check: GetFileAttributes
(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2\%46%4F%4F.lnk) failed
[main] mkdir geterrno_from_win_error: windows error 2 == errno 2
[main] mkdir symlink_info::check: 0 = symlink.check
(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2\%46%4F%4F, 0x22C400) (0x80A)
[main] mkdir mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: conv_to_win32_path (/usr/src2)
[main] mkdir set_flags: flags: binary (0x2)
[main] mkdir mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: src_path /usr/src2, dst
C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2, flags 0x80A, rc 0
[main] mkdir symlink_info::check: not a symlink
[main] mkdir symlink_info::check: 0 = symlink.check
(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2, 0x22C400) (0x80A)
[main] mkdir path_conv::check:
this-path(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2\%46%4F%4F), has_acls(1)
[main] mkdir build_fh_pc: fh 0x61169E30
[main] mkdir alloc_sd: uid 1010, gid 544, attribute 41FF
[main] mkdir cygpsid::debug_print: alloc_sd: owner SID =
S-1-5-21-1454471165-492894223-1957994488-1010
[main] mkdir cygpsid::debug_print: alloc_sd: group SID = S-1-5-32-544
[main] mkdir alloc_sd: ACL-Size: 148
[main] mkdir alloc_sd: Created SD-Size: 212
[main] mkdir mkdir: 0 = mkdir (FOO, 511)


strace snippet from 1.7.0(0.179/4/2):
-
[main] mkdir dll_crt0_1: user_data-main 0x4012A0
[main] mkdir __set_errno: void dll_crt0_1(void*):931 val 0
[main] mkdir normalize_posix_path: src FOO
[main] mkdir cwdstuff::get: posix /usr/src2
[main] mkdir cwdstuff::get: (/usr/src2) = cwdstuff::get (0x22C750, 260,
1, 0), errno 0
[main] mkdir normalize_posix_path: /usr/src2/FOO = normalize_posix_path
(FOO)
[main] mkdir mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: conv_to_win32_path
(/usr/src2/FOO)
[main] mkdir set_flags: flags: binary (0x2)
[main] mkdir mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: src_path /usr/src2/FOO, dst
C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2\FOO, flags 0x80A, rc 0
__^^^
[main] mkdir symlink_info::check: 0xC034 = NtQueryAttributesFile
(\??\C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2\FOO)
[main] mkdir geterrno_from_win_error: windows error 2 == errno 2
[main] mkdir symlink_info::check: 0xC034 = NtQueryAttributesFile
(\??\C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2\FOO.lnk)
[main] mkdir geterrno_from_win_error: windows error 2 == errno 2
[main] mkdir symlink_info::check: 0 = symlink.check
(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2\FOO, 0x224520) (0x80A)
[main] mkdir mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: conv_to_win32_path (/usr/src2)
[main] mkdir set_flags: flags: binary (0x2)
[main] mkdir mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: src_path /usr/src2, dst
C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2, flags 0x80A, rc 0
[main] mkdir symlink_info::check: not a symlink
[main] mkdir symlink_info::check: 0 = symlink.check
(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2, 0x224520) (0x80A)
[main] mkdir path_conv::check:
this-path(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src2\FOO), has_acls(1)
[main] mkdir build_fh_pc: fh 0x611E4C7C
[main] mkdir alloc_sd: uid 500, gid 545, attribute 41FF
[main] mkdir cygsid::debug_print: alloc_sd: owner SID =
S-1-5-21-1292428093-813497703-1801674531-500 (+)
[main] mkdir cygsid::debug_print: alloc_sd: group SID = S-1-5-32-545 (+)
[main] mkdir alloc_sd: ACL-Size: 148
[main] mkdir 

Re: Compiling XWin (modular Xorg)

2008-01-06 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On Dec 11, 2007 11:49 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin Ports) wrote:
 Janjaap Bos wrote:
  The changes I made are all in the patch. Let me know when you have
  suggestions, and whether you're able to build it. Perhaps Yaakov is
  willing to check it with his findings.

 Thank you VERY much.  I will try to look into this into the near future,
 as the server is the only holdup in getting X11R7 finished on Cygwin.

Hi all,

Have you guys checked out the Xming patches
(http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingCode/)? Most of them modify code
that is the same as we use and contain many fixes to current problems
we are experiencing, such as the 24bpp issue. Also, a lot of AG's
fixes he did not commit to either trunk or the cygwin branch. He's
also come up with a rather unsavory, yet workable hack to the
overloaded function issue. There are a ton of DD improvements to the
GLX acceleration code, too. Admittedly, the person who runs that
project is still using monolithic as the base and has a rather bizarre
way of updating the sources uses modular code, but still, it ought to
be worthwhile to check out. Unfortunately, he keeps his latest changes
behind a donation paywall, but I'm sure if asked by a well know
cygwin-xorg developer, he would be willing to part with them.

As for the overloaded function problem, I do recall we had this same
issue back in 2002-2003 with shared libXt. You might want to search
through the archives on that one for the whole story. It was a real
frustrating problem to deal with, but a good solution was found that
worked well.

I had a thought on packaging. Perhaps we should adopt the Fedora
scheme? I mean they seem to have packaged it nicely without having 60+
packages. We would still want our versioned packages for the runtime,
but it should help to cut down on the number of packages without
having binary compatibility problems. You could then use the current
cygwin x11-xorg package names as collection stubs for the individual
ones. Just a thought.

Cheers,
Nicholas

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Re: Missing dll's in new package [was Re: Please upload: xorg-*-6.8.99.901]

2005-10-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On 10/28/05, Alan Hourihane wrote:
 This test version was built from the mainline X.Org trunk code and not
 the CYGWIN branch.

 I'll be working on getting whatever changes exist on that branch over
 into the mainline trunk code next.

 If the patches are still in CYGWIN then that's the problem.

Thanks, Alan.  It seems that DPS support is being phased out, so
nevermind about that.

However, I have noticed another issue which may (or may not) be solved
on the branch.  It seems that xcursorgen and the default cursor sets
were not built and included this time around.

Other then that, the new X seems to be working fine.

On a side note, once the dust settles and if you have time to look
into it, perhaps it would be possible to make static libraries
available in addtion to the shared libraries?  Just a thought.

Cheers,
Nicholas

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Re: Missing dll's in new package [was Re: Please upload: xorg-*-6.8.99.901]

2005-10-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On 10/28/05, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 19:56 -0400, Nicholas Wourms wrote:

  I've taken the opportunity to evaluate the new package.  Prior
  versions of Cygwin/Xorg provided the dlls and development files for
  the libDPS interface.  For some reason, they were omitted in this
  release.  I've been hunting through the Imake config files, and I
  cannot understand why they weren't built.  Perhaps this is a problem
  in the packaging script?

 DPS has been obsoleted by xorg and is going to be removed from the xorg
 tree

 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3080


BTW, xcursorgen and the icon sets are missing in this release.  And
not to get into an ideological debate over this, but a package
including static libs would be nice.

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Re: Missing dll's in new package [was Re: Please upload: xorg-*-6.8.99.901]

2005-10-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On 10/28/05, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
 On 10/28/05, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
  On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 19:56 -0400, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
 
   I've taken the opportunity to evaluate the new package.  Prior
   versions of Cygwin/Xorg provided the dlls and development files for
   the libDPS interface.  For some reason, they were omitted in this
   release.  I've been hunting through the Imake config files, and I
   cannot understand why they weren't built.  Perhaps this is a problem
   in the packaging script?
 
  DPS has been obsoleted by xorg and is going to be removed from the xorg
  tree
 
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3080
 

 BTW, xcursorgen and the icon sets are missing in this release.  And
 not to get into an ideological debate over this, but a package
 including static libs would be nice.

Ack.  Ignore this one, it was supposed to be deleted.

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Missing dll's in new package [was Re: Please upload: xorg-*-6.8.99.901]

2005-10-27 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On 10/27/05, Alan Hourihane wrote:

 Yep, uploading myself to sourceware now.

 They'll be in-place in the next hour.

Alan,

I've taken the opportunity to evaluate the new package.  Prior
versions of Cygwin/Xorg provided the dlls and development files for
the libDPS interface.  For some reason, they were omitted in this
release.  I've been hunting through the Imake config files, and I
cannot understand why they weren't built.  Perhaps this is a problem
in the packaging script?

Cheers,
Nicholas

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Re: 2nd summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

2005-10-03 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On 10/2/05, Hack Kampbjorn wrote:
[SNIP]
 
  keychain   Hack Kampbjorn or up for grabs?
  ncftp  Hack Kampbjorn or up for grabs?
 
 
  If Hack doesn't want these anymore, ditto on these.

 I would apreciate that.

Ok, then I'll get to work on these.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: 3rd summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

2005-10-03 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On 10/3/05, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
[SNIP]
   clear
Wasn't this moved to obsolete?

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: 2nd summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

2005-09-29 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Corinna,

  agetty Up for grabs (so far Sergey Okhapkin)
  chkconfig  Up for grabs (so far Sergey Okhapkin)
  initscriptsUp for grabs (so far Sergey Okhapkin)
  sysvinit   Up for grabs (so far Sergey Okhapkin)
  xinetd Up for grabs (so far Sergey Okhapkin)
If Sergey doesn't want these, I've got some local packaged versions
which are more recent.  So I'll bite unless someone else really really
wants them.  Give me a week or so, and I'll see what I can cook up.

  keychain   Hack Kampbjorn or up for grabs?
  ncftp  Hack Kampbjorn or up for grabs?

If Hack doesn't want these anymore, ditto on these.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [ITP] gnome-libs-1.4.2

2005-09-29 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Yaakov,

In a similar sense to my comments on qt3, I think it would be better
to break up the package into something like:

libname1(libtool dll version) - for each runtime lib package
name - base package (docs, shared data, etc).
name-devel - headers, static/import libs, .la/.pc files, dev docs.

For example (not complete):

libgnomesupport10
-
/usr/bin/cyggnomesupport-0.dll


libgnomeui132
-
/usr/bin/cyggnomeui-32.dll


gnome-libs
---
/usr/bin/gnome-bug
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/ABOUT-NLS
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/AUTHORS
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/ChangeLog
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/COPYING
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/COPYING.LIB
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/HACKING
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/INSTALL
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/NEWS
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/README
/usr/share/locale/az/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/et/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/eu/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/ga/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/hr/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-libs.mo
/usr/share/man/man1/gnome.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/gnome-bug.1.gz
...

gnome-libs-devel
-
/usr/bin/gnome-config
/usr/include/gnome-1.0/gnome.h
/usr/include/gnome-1.0/popt-gnome.h
/usr/lib/gnome-libs/include/gnomesupport.h
/usr/lib/gnomeConf.sh
/usr/lib/libgnomesupport.dll.a
/usr/lib/libgnomesupport.la
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/doc/README.gtkcauldron
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/doc/README.gtkcauldron_for_python
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/doc/adding-file-manager-new-items.txt
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/doc/adding-sounds.txt
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/doc/api-comment-style.txt
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/doc/gnome-doc
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/doc/gnome-doc.el
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/doc/mime-type-handling.txt
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/doc/mkstub
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/doc/session-management.txt
/usr/share/doc/gnome-libs-1.4.2/doc/suggestions.txt
/usr/share/gnome/help/gnome-dev-info/C/addauth.html
/usr/share/gnome/help/gnome-dev-info/C/altpol.html
/usr/share/gnome/help/gnome-dev-info/C/arch.html
/usr/share/gnome/help/gnome-dev-info/C/book1.html
/usr/share/gnome/help/gnome-dev-info/C/codstd.html
/usr/share/man/man1/gnome-config.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/gnome-doc.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/gnome-mkstub.1.gz
...

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: lesstif packaging

2005-09-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On 9/27/05, Brian Ford wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Nicholas Wourms wrote:

 Nicholas,

 You have been around here long enough to know that personal email is not
 the way to address these issues.  As such, I have forwarded this reply to
 the proper mailing list and set the Reply To appropriately.  Please honor
 this.  The lack of doing so makes it less likely that your request will be
 addressed.  Thanks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah...  I'm lazy, so sue me... ;-)

  Please go back to bzipping the manpages like they have been in previous
  packages.

 I see now that this was the case.

 However, the source package that Harold gave me to start with did not do
 this, nor does the current version of the gbs.  As such, I'd prefer not to
 support a local gbs patch just to change its default behavior.  If,
 however, there is consensus that this is the way it should be (TM), I'd
 be happy to submit a gbs patch.

I don't know anyone who uses the gbs without tweaking it for a
specific package, which you've already done for lesstif.

  Also, please don't just arbitrarily drop the static libs.

 Why?  None of the dependent xorg X libs are available staticly.  How does
 having a static lesstif help anyone?  If you can present a reasonable
 argument for keeping them I will consider it, but no for an unfounded
 request.  Sorry.

First, I do not know if it is still the case, but in the past, *some*
motif applications had problems when linked to the dynamic library.
In fact this issue caused a lot of headaches when lesstif was first
introduced, but eventually it was fixed for most applications.  A
search of the archive ought to show the relevant discussion.  While I
agree that the lack of static Xorg libs is less than desirable, it is
has been a general courtesy to provide both static and dynamic libs to
the developer.  One reason might be that an app uses only a few
portions of lesstif libs, but the dev doesn't want to require the user
to install the entire lesstif package.

In any event, I'll withdraw that particular request until such time as
static Xorg libs become available.

I'm not sure what the status is, but I contacted Alexander awhile back
regarding Xorg static libs and IIRC he told me he was going to look
into it when he gets a chance.  If he's too busy still, I've been
playing around with Xorg's build and can probably get it working
sooner or later.  Right now I'm working on more interesting things
(like shared gcc/g++/gcj/g77 libs).

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: libungif (was: Re: 2nd summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.))

2005-09-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:06:31 -0500, in gmane.os.cygwin.applications
you wrote:

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Lapo Luchini wrote:
 I'd say up for grabs.
 I always used to say it's low priority, but being so low it didn't
 get updated in months probably means that someone else may well be
 more interested in it...

I'm interested in keeping this going.  But before I package it, was a
decision ever made about including giflib in the net release (in terms
of legalities)?  This will make a big difference in how I would package
libungif.


We already had this discussion awhile back, and despite the FUD from
the FSF, the patent has long since expired worldwide.  The only
company which might have a claim is IBM (which expires at the end of
this year), do you really think they'd care (given their recnt battle
with SCO)?  Most other opensource packages with LZW capabilities have
already quitely re-integrated it back into the default source.


Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Packages with unusual (wrong?) tarball names (db, xemacs)

2005-09-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:52:18 +0100, in gmane.os.cygwin.applications
you wrote:

The (adhoc?) standard for package file names, which for the most part is 
followed, is:

NAME-VERSION-RELEASE.tar.bz2   -- for binary packages
NAME-VERSION-RELEASE-src.tar.bz2-- for source packages

VERSION and RELEASE should not contain '-' characters.
NAME is allowed to contain '-' characters, but NAME should not contain a '-' 
character immediately followed by a digit, because this would look too much 
like the start of VERSION.


There are a few packages in the distribution which do not follow these 
rules:

!!! ./db/db2 db-2.7.7-4-src.tar.bz2
!!! ./db/db2 db-2.7.7-4.tar.bz2
!!! ./db/db3.1 db-3.1.17-2-src.tar.bz2
!!! ./db/db3.1 db-3.1.17-2.tar.bz2
!!! ./db/db4.1 db-4.1.25-1-src.tar.bz2
!!! ./db/db4.1 db-4.1.25-1.tar.bz2
!!! ./db/db4.2 db-4.2.52-1-src.tar.bz2
!!! ./db/db4.2 db-4.2.52-1.tar.bz2
!!! ./db/db4.3 db-4.3.28-1-src.tar.bz2
!!! ./db/db4.3 db-4.3.28-1.tar.bz2

^^^ These packages do not reflect their package name in their file name.

Max,

I only used that scheme because it was the one Chuck had used in his
non-official db packages.  At the time I saw no reason to change them,
and I think it might be best to leave them as-is for now.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: 2nd summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

2005-09-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:06:58 +0200, in gmane.os.cygwin.applications
you wrote:

On Sep 15 18:45, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 Mails in the last couple of weeks indicate that we have lost one or the
 other maintainer without getting any notice from them.  Since we have
 a couple of packages which haven't been updated for a good amount of time,
 there's apparently a need to find out, which packages are still maintained
 and which have lost their maintainer on the way.
 
So, ALL maintainers of Cygwin packages,

  please reply to this mail within the next six weeks,
 
  including a list of ALL packages you maintain.
 
 This survey will run until 2005-10-31.  I will ping every week, so you
 have a bit of time.  However, if you don't reply until 2005-10-31, your
 packages will be up for grabs.  Which means, they will disappear from
 the Cygwin net distribution if nobody wants to take over maintainership.

Below are the results as of today 2005-09-26.  It would be helpful if all
maintainers could scan this lists again, so that we're sure that nothing
has been left out accidentally and to clear up some questions.  Later
changes due to dropping or switching maintainership should be explicitely
mentioned at one point, please.


  db2Gerrit P. Haase
  db3.1  Gerrit P. Haase
  db4.1  Gerrit P. Haase
  db4.2  Gerrit P. Haase
  db4.3  Gerrit P. Haase
  libdb2 Gerrit P. Haase
  libdb2-devel   Gerrit P. Haase
  libdb3.1   Gerrit P. Haase
  libdb3.1-devel Gerrit P. Haase
  libdb4.1   Gerrit P. Haase
  libdb4.1-devel Gerrit P. Haase
  libdb4.2   Gerrit P. Haase
  libdb4.2-devel Gerrit P. Haase
  libdb4.3   Gerrit P. Haase
  libdb4.3-devel Gerrit P. Haase

I'm a co-maintainer of these, FWIW.

  libpopt0   Christopher Faylor
  popt   Christopher Faylor

Actually, that's my package


BTW, the rxvt maintainer is *NOT* subscribed to this list (he is to
the main list).  I'm sure we don't want to loose that package, so you
might want to ping him here: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [ITP] qt3-3.3.4

2005-09-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:52:30 -0500, in gmane.os.cygwin.applications
you wrote:

[SNIP]

Yaakov,

First, thank you for packaging this.  I was supposed to do it 2 years
ago but I never got around to it.  First, libtool actually names
plugins the way you did, so no need to worry there.

I have some suggestions about the packaging:

1)
The manpages are screwed up.  The issue, as you know, is that there
are a number of manpages which have the same name/different case.  For
each pair that does so:

- All of the all-lowercase manpages contain actual manpage content.
- All of the mixed-case manpages contain a groff .so link to the
corresponding all-lowercase version.

So, for example, you have:
  - qaccessibleobject.3qt
  - QAccessibleObject.3qt

The qaccessibleobject.3qt contains the actual content and the
QAccessibleObject.3qt contains just '.so man3/qaccessibleobject.3qt'.

The first thing you need to do is make sure that the lowercase
manpages aren't clobbered by the mixed-case ones when the package is
untarred.  Fortunately, newer cygwin dlls contain an undocumented
feature which allows you to mount a directory where files can exist
with the same name/different case.  This is called a 'managed' mount.
One source package, gcc, is actually using managed mounts as part of
the build (since gcj has case issues).  Anyhow, you would change
unpack() in the generic build script like so:

unpack() {
  winbase=`cygpath -m ${srcdir}`
  mkdir -p ${srcdir}
  mount -u -omanaged ${winbase} ${srcdir}
  tar xv${opt_decomp}f $1
}

and modify finish() like so:
finish() {
  rm -rf ${srcdir}
  umount -u ${srcdir}
}

Ok, so that stops the clobbering, now you have three options on how to
deal with the actual packaging of the manpages.

  1) `cd doc/man  rm -f Q*`

  2) Put man1 and the all-lowercase man3 in:
 /usr/share/qt3/doc/man/man{1,3}

 Then put the mixed-case man3 in:

 /usr/share/qt3/doc/mann/man3

 Update MANPATH scripts to reflect this.

  3) Make /usr/share/qt3/doc/man a managed mount.

Unfortunately, #3 is out of the question since setup.exe does not
(yet) support the creation of managed mounts.  Nor can packages direct
it to do so (though I suppose if it supported pre-install scripts,
maybe it could).  However, when, and if it does, I would definitely go
with this method.

Option #1 is the easiest, but you might cause problems in
cross-references that want mixed-case pages (for programs which
interpret troff cross-references).

Option #2, given the current state of cygwin and setup.exe, is
probably your best bet.  Given that you already modify the MANPATH,
this should not be that hard to integrate into the packaging.

---

2)
The versioned dll's should go into a different package.  In theory,
that should allow a person to just install only them, with no other
items.  So, for example, I would put them in a package using the
following template:

libqt{major}{minor}{dll version}

So, for example, it would be:

libqt340-3.4-1

And you would bump the dll version whenever an incompatible change was
introduced.  I think it is critical to plan ahead for possible
incompatible changes in the API which windows is hypersensitive to,
especially with c++ libraries.

So, for example, maybe libqt340-1 should contain:
/usr/bin/cygqt34-mt-0.dll
/usr/bin/cygqui34-0.dll

3)
Now that versioned dlls are out of the main package, you should
probably merge the -bin package into the base to cutdown on the number
of packages.

So, for example, the base package qt3-3.4-1, might contain:

/usr/bin/designer-qt3
/usr/bin/linguist-qt3
/usr/bin/qtconfig-qt3
/usr/lib/qt3/bin/designer.exe
/usr/lib/qt3/bin/findtr
/usr/lib/qt3/bin/linguist.exe
/usr/lib/qt3/bin/lrelease.exe
/usr/lib/qt3/bin/lupdate.exe
/usr/lib/qt3/bin/qm2ts.exe
/usr/lib/qt3/bin/qt20fix
/usr/lib/qt3/bin/qtconfig.exe
/usr/lib/qt3/bin/qtrename140
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/designer/libcppeditor.dll
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/designer/libdlgplugin.dll
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/designer/libgladeplugin.dll
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/designer/libkdevdlgplugin.dll
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/designer/librcplugin.dll
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/designer/libwizards.dll
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/imageformats/libqjpeg.dll
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/imageformats/libqmng.dll
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/imageformats/libqpng.dll
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlite.dll
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlpsql.dll
/usr/share/applications/designer-qt3.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linguist-qt3.desktop
/usr/share/applications/qtconfig-qt3.desktop
/usr/share/doc/Cygwin/qt3-3.3.4.README
/usr/share/doc/qt3-3.3.4/FAQ
/usr/share/doc/qt3-3.3.4/INSTALL
/usr/share/doc/qt3-3.3.4/LICENSE.GPL
/usr/share/doc/qt3-3.3.4/LICENSE.QPL
/usr/share/doc/qt3-3.3.4/PLATFORMS
/usr/share/doc/qt3-3.3.4/README
/usr/share/doc/qt3-3.3.4/README-QT.TXT
/usr/share/doc/qt3-3.3.4/changes-3.3.4
/usr/share/pixmaps/designer-qt3.png
/usr/share/pixmaps/linguist-qt3.png
/usr/share/pixmaps/qtconfig-qt3.png

Re: 2nd summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

2005-09-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:38:01 -0400, in gmane.os.cygwin.applications
you wrote:

On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 08:20:35PM -0400, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
  libpopt0   Christopher Faylor
  popt   Christopher Faylor

Actually, that's my package

I just took these because I thought they were related to rpm and I'm
taking on rpm.  So, sorry for the confusion.

Oh well, if you think it will be easier, taking it over is fine by me.
If you want, I'll take any package you're tired of maintaining.

Out of curiousity, any plans beyond just packaging rpm?  A project
that I had been working on, but never got around to investing much
time or effort in, was adapting setup.exe to support rpms.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [PATCH] setup: fix FTP behavior on timeout

2005-09-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:44:31 +0200, in gmane.os.cygwin.applications
you wrote:

On Sep 27 12:05, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I noticed this problem when trying to do a fresh install -- if selecting
 packages takes too long, ftp mirrors will timeout, and setup will not
 reconnect, causing the failure.  This patch fixes that.

Finally!


AMEN!!!


[PATCH]: Add get{delim,line} symbol alias to avoid autoconf detection failures

2005-07-08 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Hi Corinna,

I saw that you exported __get{delim,line} in the cygwin dll.  I've had
this modification locally for awhile now.  There are a number of
autoconfiscated applications which check for these functions and use
them if present.  Unfortunately, autoconf's AC_CHECK_FUNCS will not
pickup CPP definitions in headers because the test links to the c
library using a phony prototype.  Thus, in order to facilitate
autoconf, I've added the necessary resource aliases.  I've also taken
the liberty of replacing the CPP definitions with actual function
prototypes for  improved clarity.   The patch for doing these
operations is attached.  I hope you find it satisfactory.

Cheers,
Nicholas
2005-07-09  Nicholas Wourms  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* cygwin.din (getline): Add symbol alias to avoid problems with
autoconf's AC_CHECK_FUNCS macro.
(getdelim): Likewise.
* include/sys/stdio.h (getline): Improve clarity by replacing the cpp
definition with a proper function prototype.
(getdelim):  Likewise.
* include/cygwin/version.h: Bump API minor number.

getdelim-getline-autoconf-fix.patch
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Re: [PATCH]: decorate gcc extensions with __extension__

2005-03-29 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Christopher Faylor wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 01:52:32PM -0500, Nicholas Wourms wrote:

 You have correctly surmised that both Corinna and I understand what
 pedantic mode is.  You have to take that thought a step further,
 however, and realize that the fact that there is no -pedantic in CFLAGS
 is because we both want to use the full expressive power of gcc without
 worrying if we are complying with ISO C or ISO C++.  This is a conscious
 choice, not an oversight.

I understand that, not many projects do compile at -pedantic by default.
However, you are assuming I am asking you to change huge amounts of code to
conform to ISO standards, which is not what I'm saying.  While I did make some
suggestions regarding variable sized arrays, that was about the limit of the
iso-correctness on my part.  I am not suggesting, in any way, that -pedantic be
added to the default CFLAGS.  And any other changes are going to be trivial,
like nixing a trailing comma in the last member of an enum.

 I thought Corinna's intent was clear in that sentence.  Apparently you
 didn't.

 What she was saying is, for this to be done right, both of us would have
 to be rigorous in the future about making sure that we add decorate
 every extension we use, or, worse, avoid using gcc extensions which
 we've come to rely on.  That would be annoying.

I hear you loud and clear.  I am not suggesting you stop using gcc extensions,
nor would I.  It is true that I made a minor off-the-cuff suggestion regarding
variable sized arrays, but it was intended to be an opinion.

As for the done right part, I would point to the other __attribute__ tags
which are used to explicitly mark intentions to the compiler (e.g. unused 
noreturn).  Looking at the ChangeLog, many of these were added long after the
offending initial code was added, mostly likely during a code cleanliness
sweep.  Of course there is no *requirement* for the tags, as code will compile
just fine without them.  The point, however, of using them is to separate the
true-positive warnings from the false-positive warnings.  My intention is no
different.  So why should adding __extension__ be any different?  Just add when
it is noticed/needed, like the other __attribute__ tags are.

 However, if I am correctly interpreting your intent, it sounds like you
 are saying that no one but you would have to worry about sprinkling
 __extension__'s throughout the code and that we could just write code as
 we always do.

Again, I'm not suggesting I be the point man on this.  Like other
__attribute__ tags, they can be added as needed/noticed.  It's rather trivial
and I don't see the implied expenditure of labor involved.  You can add them or
not, it won't change the way the code is compiled.  Just think of it like
Rusty's Janitorial patches on LKML.

 If that is the case, then I don't see how it matters if
 we check in your code or not.  You'll constantly be updating things to
 match the latest checkins one way or the other.

Constantly?  I'm afraid I would disagree.  As was stated before, my changes
touch a very small portion of code.  While Cygwin development is lively, it
doesn't come close to most other projects out there.  Frankly, I find the pace
here rather laid-back, which is quite fine IMHO.

 However, if your patches are not going to be checked in,

Well, I had hoped to further discuss this...

 then you don't have to worry about packaging up your changes for 
 cygwin-patches,  which is less work for you.

I know that, I'm not sending patches that I don't want committed.

 Btw, the use of a ?: c is a conscious decision.

Maybe I'm just old fashion and do not like a ? : c, but I don't understand
why you use it, other than saving a few keystrokes.  Look, aside from the fact
it keeps -pedantic from producing an error, explicitly expanding to a ? a : c
makes the code easier to read and the intent more clear.  Just like you could
write:

if (a) b; else c;

but...

if (a)
  b;
else
  c;

is more readable.  Wouldn't you agree?  I'm not trying to tell you what to do,
I just think it would be better IMHO.

Look, I understand that you and Corinna see my changes as making extra work for
you.  That isn't my intention and I've tried very hard to make my footprint
minimal.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Cygwin (current): Bug in how managed mounts handle reserved words

2005-03-06 Thread Nicholas Wourms
(Note:  I have not re-subscribed to the list yet and probably won't for another 
week or so, so please CC me in any replies - TIA)

Hi,

I've discovered a small bug in how Cygwin (CVS HEAD as of Saturday) handles 
reserved dos names created on managed mounts.  I discovered this while working 
with a FreeBSD cross-compiler (actually CVS discovered it).  Rather then bore 
you with my hypothesis, so here's the details:

OS: Windows XP SP2
FS: NTFS
UNAME: CYGWIN_NT-5.1 foobar 1.5.14(0.122/4/2) 2005-03-02 22:46 i686 unknown 
unknown Cygwin
$CYGWIN: export check_case:strict tty ntea ntsec smbntsec server 
checkcodepage:oem

NOTE: All cygwin packages are up to date.

Steps to reproduce:
---
1) mkdir -p /usr/src/test
2) mount -o managed C:\\path to root\\usr\\src\\test /usr/src/test
3) cd /usr/src/test
4) mkdir -p cygwin-src/freebsd-src/sys/dev/digi
5) cd cygwin-src/freebsd-src/sys/dev/digi
6) touch .new.con.CX-IBM.h
7) mv .new.con.CX-IBM.h con.CX-IBM.h

The error it gives me is:

mv: cannot move `.new.con.CX-IBM.h' to `con.CX-IBM.h': Filename exists with 
different case

So, I did a strace on the experimental testcase I mentioned above.  In 
addition, I setup a control (known working) testcase which used the steps 
outlined above, except using the filenames .test.me.now and me.now instead. 
 I've attached the differences between the strace outputs of my experiment and 
control (minus any extraneous differences).  I haven't looked at it in depth, 
so unfortunately I don't have a fix.  However, based on a cursory look, it 
would seem the problem is somewhere in path_conv (either posix or win).

Cheers,
Nicholas


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13:08:46.057875000 -0500
+++ /home/Administrator/control-testcase.strace 2005-03-06 12:50:10.089125000 
-0500
@@ -1,3 +1,3 @@
 [main] mv set_myself: myself-dwProcessId 11776
-[main] mv time: 1110130976 = time (0)
+[main] mv time: 1110131029 = time (0)
 [main] mv set_process_privilege: 0 = set_process_privilege 
(SeChangeNotifyPrivilege, 0)
@@ -213,4 +213,2 @@
 [main] mv sigproc_init: process/signal handling enabled(1001)
-[sig]  mv wait_sig: myself-dwProcessId 11776
-[sig]  mv wait_sig: entering ReadFile loop, readsig 0x708, myself-sendsig 
0x700
 [main] mv tty_list::allocate_tty: console 0x1200550 associated with tty0
@@ -219,3 +217,3 @@
 [main] mv build_fh_pc: fh 0x617D46E8
-[main] mv open_shared: name (null), shared 0xA02 (wanted 0xA02), h 
0x6F4
+[main] mv open_shared: name (null), shared 0xA02 (wanted 0xA02), h 
0x708
 [main] mv add_handle: protecting handle 'cygheap-console_h', inherited flag 1
@@ -226,2 +224,4 @@
 [main] mv fhandler_base::set_flags: filemode set to binary
+[sig] mv wait_sig: myself-dwProcessId 11776
+[sig] mv wait_sig: entering ReadFile loop, readsig 0x6E0, myself-sendsig 0x6DC
 [main] mv fhandler_console::open: incremented open_fhs, now 1
@@ -231,3 +231,3 @@
 [main] mv fhandler_console::output_tcsetattr: 0 = tcsetattr (,22E530) (ENABLE 
FLAGS 3) (lflag 0 oflag 0)
-[main] mv tty::make_pipes: tty0 from_slave 0x6D0, to_slave 0x6D4
+[main] mv tty::make_pipes: tty0 from_slave 0x6CC, to_slave 0x6D0
 [main] mv tty::get_event: created event Global\cygwin1S4-2005-03-02 
22:46.cygtty.output.done.0
@@ -238,6 +238,6 @@
 [main] mv fhandler_console::ioctl: WINSZ: (row=25,col=80)
-[main] mv tty::create_inuse: Global\cygwin1S4-2005-03-02 

Gnome versioning issues [was Re: [ITP] glib-2.4.2-1]

2004-06-10 Thread Nicholas Wourms
yselkowitz wrote:
Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
| http://anfaenger.de/cygwin/gtk+/glib/glib_devel-2.4.2-1.tar.bz2
~   ^
| http://anfaenger.de/cygwin/gtk+/glib/glib_doc-2.4.2-1.tar.bz2
~   ^
Shouldn't these be glib-devel and glib-doc with a hyphen, not an 
underscore?

Another question (or RFC): glib-1.2 and glib-2.x were made to be able to
coexist, and calling this glib (rather than glib2) may collide with a
(perhaps private) package of glib-1.2.  CyGnome2 has called this package
glib2 for that reason, and some programs still use glib/gtk+-1.2 (dillo,
gnucash, and more).  How do the linux distros deal with this?
I completely agree!  Both Debian and RedHat use some form of versioning 
to distinguish between the major releases.  This is a prudent model 
since both libs are still being used.  I think using RedHat's naming 
conventions for the gnome packages ought to be a general rule of thumb. 
 So, using the RedHat model for glib:

glib-1.x - glib-version
glib-2.x - glib2-version
Likewise, for gtk+:
gtk+-1.x  - gtk+-version
gtk+-2.x  - gtk+2-version
I'd like to suggest that the names of library-only packages, like 
glib/gtk+, be prepended with a lib, so that they show up in that 
portion of the full list and minimize confusion.  This would compliment 
the current schema of packages like popt and iconv, which were prefixed 
with lib for that reason.  I would further suggest appending [0-9] to 
the name so as to prepare for any binary incompatibilities which might 
arise.  So my final suggestion would be like so:

libglib20
libglib20-doc
libglib20-devel
Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [ITP] apr, apr-util

2004-05-03 Thread Nicholas Wourms
max wrote:
APR is the Apache Portable Runtime. APR-util is an addon package to APR
containing non-core useful features.
Both are required by Subversion.

I have prototype packages installed on my machine right now. I'll make apr,
then apr-util, sequentially available for review once my previous ITP (neon)
has finished the review process. Meanwhile, I'm posting this ITP to solicit
votes.
Max,

You are treading on another maintainer's domain, as the apr runtime is 
part of Apache2.  Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with 
Stipe's handling of apache, he's still the maintainer.  The last time I 
heard, Stipe was still fixing serious bugs with the Apache2 server, 
which I guess is why it isn't working yet on Cygwin.  Since you can just 
as easily build subversion with a static apr, I don't see any need for 
this additional packaging.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Berkeley DB 4.2

2004-04-27 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Gerrit wrote:

Nicholas schrieb:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Do the current Cygwin berkeley DB maintainers have any plans to package BDB
4.2?


sure...


I'm nearly finished with the build, will try to test it tomorrow and
upload it after finishing the tests.
So it is already released?  Excellent, thanks for doing that [I'm 
currently in the middle of a data-recovery nightmare and have no idea 
when I'll get some time :-(].

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Berkeley DB 4.2

2004-04-26 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do the current Cygwin berkeley DB maintainers have any plans to package BDB
4.2?
sure...



Re: ttmkfdir no longer needed

2004-04-11 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Harold L Hunt II wrote:

It looks like we no longer need ttmkfdir in order to expose the fonts 
installed with Windows to X11.  The mkfontscale utility that is included 
with out distribution was inspired by ttmkfdir and essentially replaces it:
That's not what it says, at least it makes no claim to be a full 
replacement.  It mentions only that it is inspired from the original 
ttmkfdir, but I don't think it in the same class as the latest version 
(ttmkfdir-3.x) from RedHat.  In fact, RedHat still retains and uses it 
to this day, even in the bleeding-edge Fedora's (which, BTW, are also 
using xorg-x11 for X11).  IIRC, Mike Harris says in specfile that while 
mkfontscale is adequate for latin font encodings, it doesn't work all 
that well with unicode and other complex encodings.  Since I speak 
English, I can't confirm nor deny if this is true, but if Mike is still 
using it for RedHat's TTF's, then I'd have to say there is some truth to it.

You can do something like the following right now (well, not with Cygwin 
1.5.9 since mkfontscale will core dump, you have to use snapshot of 
cygwin1.dll for the moment):

1) mkfontscale /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/Fonts

2) mkfontdir /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/Fonts

3) Launch Cygwin/X

4) In a bash shell under Cygwin/X, run:

   xset fp+ /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/Fonts

5) Run xfontsel and observe that picking 'microsoft' from the 'rgstry' 
category exposes 'microsoft sans serif', 'tahoma', and 'verdana' among 
others under the 'fmly' category.  Note also that valid chartacters 
appear when you select these fonts.

Due to this I am going to pull the link to ttmkfdir from our 'Ported 
Software' page.  Perhaps someone would like to write a postinstall 
script that creates symlinks to the Fonts folder for Windows under 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/windows, then runs mkfontscale and mkfontdir in 
that folder (since we can not guarantee that we have permissions to 
create files in the actual Fonts folder for Windows).  Then it would 
take a minor adjustment of our startup scripts to pass this additional 
font folder to Cygwin/X on startup.

Any takers?  I'll package it if somebody works the kinks out of it.
I would *strongly* advise against any action which would work directly 
in and/or on a user's system's FONTS dir.  The first reason is that we 
can't guarantee the integrity of that link, since it could be broken due 
to some changes in CYGWIN case flags or inconsistencies in the case 
interpretation within the cygwin1.dll.  Speaking from experience, this 
has bitten me once before.  Secondly, the various utilities you want to 
use are required to open and read a significant portion of the font data 
from the font file.  Why should this be of concern?  Well if our font 
programs core dump while doing this, there is a possibility of 
corruption.  There's even the possibility of corruption even if the 
program works as expected.  Font corruption isn't always easy to detect, 
and often will lead people to make false assumptions about why they are 
getting unexpected or strange output from their fonts.  We really don't 
want to get into the business of messing around with or in end-users' 
system directories.  A better approach would be to copy the fonts to a 
predetermined Cygwin directory and work on them there.  Perhaps a C 
program, mkttwin32dir, which does as follows (this is very simplistic):

1) Check for the existence of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/win32:

If yes, then hash the contents of that directory matching *.ttf into a 
sorted array, a[].

If no, then create the directory.

2) Check for the existence of the System font dir.

If yes, goto next step.

If no, abort and leave a textfile, README.fail, which contains some info 
on the reason it failed and to suggest user manually run the contents of 
the script.

3) Hash the contents of the system font directory for all matching *.ttf 
into a sorted array, b[].  Iterate the array, b[], converting strings to 
all-lowercase.  Put each resulting string into the corresponding second 
column of b[], which will be the target's name.  If we found a 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/win32 dir, then compare the contents of the 
first array, a[], with the contents of the target column of the second 
array, b[].  Discard from b[] any entries in which a font is in the 
target dir but not in the system dir.  Also, discard any entries which 
have a match both in the system and the target dir.  What is left will 
be the names fonts of needing copying and their case-converted target 
names.  Obviously, if a[] is empty, then all matches should be copied.

4) For all contents of b[], spawn cp and binary copy the source to the 
target.  Exit with a success return code.

Then we could use this program during postinstall to do the necessary 
work of keeping a user's /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/win32 dir up to date. 
 Furthermore, a user could set up a monthly cron job to do this 
automatically, so that the dirs are kept in sync.

This program could also be extended 

Re: Do I need XFree86 now that XOrg-x11 is the default X-windowing system? (fwd)

2004-04-08 Thread Nicholas Wourms
pechtcha wrote:

Harold,

I really hate to say this, but I told you so... :-D
Yeah, this name change business is a bit of a pain.  I hope that this 
whole X11 feud gets resolved eventually, so people can get back to 
harmony and cooperation rather then wasting energy and resources on 
maintaining separate forks.  Then again, they aren't our packages, so 
who are we to say?

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: ITP: leafnode

2004-04-02 Thread Nicholas Wourms
alper wrote:
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 04:17:16PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

1. Leafnode relies on hard-link counts, so current implementation of hlinks 
on FAT32 breaks it. News spool has to be on NTFS, and it seems this will be 
an NT/2K/XP only package.
Is that necessary?  Can't that be ifdef'd for Cygwin?



I've discussed this before with leafnode maintainer, Matthias Andree, and 
here's what he says:

quote
The whole /var/spool/news/* organization relies on hard links.
The expire process relies on the hard link count (st_nlink in struct
stat, as in the sys/stat.h header file and returned by the stat()
syscall) being correct, file copies on FAT32 will lead to premature expiry 
and a horrible waste of disk space, it may become unbearable for 
cross-posted articles.
/quote

To diverge, and I know Corinna will tell me to submit a patch, but I 
think the problem this raises is worth discussing.  Even if we are using 
NT/2k/XP/2k3, we still could be using fat32 filesystem.  So, another 
approach to fix this problem would be to extend the managed mount api. 
 That is, put Cygwin in charge of maintaining an internal accounting of 
hard links which is agnostic to the filesystem being used.  U/Win has 
had this approach for years now, so we know its possible.  Of course, it 
be nice if old man Korn would let us see the source ;-).  Just a thought.

As for the package, I tend to agree with Corinna.  I don't think we 
should be packaging nt-only packages unless absolutely necessary.

Cheers,
Nicholas


ATTN: w32api maintainer, please remove mingw-specific code

2004-03-29 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Earnie or Danny,

The recent directx reorganization in the winsup/w32api dir has allowed
some mingw-only code to slip into the general build
(lib/directx/dxerr.c).  This causes a compile failure when building a
cygwin target.  Please have the author of the new code rectify this by
not using tchar.h functions.  Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Nicholas




On forming a SC [was Re: ITP moratorium still in effect?]

2004-03-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
cgf wrote:

I'd like to explore new methods for getting packages into the
distribution, however.
Possibly we need a gdb packages steering committee which decides on
these things.  It could have rules like a package needs a simple
majority vote to be a candidate for inclusion.  I'd envision seven
people on the committee.  I have names in mind but the only two
definites are really Corinna and me, both of whom would also have veto
power.
I'd also like to see a formal justification for why a package should be
included, remembering that we have a software web page at cygwin.com
which can be used to advertise packages that aren't quite up to snuff
for the cygwin release.  I think we have accepted a couple of packages here
which really only deserve to be advertised on the web site.
Chris,

I'd really like to object to this SC idea, as most of us *have* 
exercised restraint while a select few have not.  Why should the 
responsible maintainers be punished for someone's binge ITP'ing?  I 
think we should keep it the way it is, perhaps with a little more of you 
laying the smack-down on anyone who is abusing it.  I would respect a 
veto from you, Corinna, or Chuck, but the voting should still be left to 
the existing maintainers.  After seeing what a steering committee has 
done to gcc, I'd be very hesitant to subject Cygwin to one.  Please 
don't turn Cygwin decisions into political ones.

Here's one idea to limit the binge ITP's:
No more than 1 ITP per month unless approved by either you or Corinna.
Another approach might be to ask: Do the Linux vendors support it?. 
Obviously this won't apply to strictly-windows applications.  However, 
it is useful in that we are attempting to provide a unix/linux-like 
environment for Windows.  If we are going to use any benchmark, this 
should be it.

I'll end with some personal observations and opinions.  I've been a RHL 
user since the 3.0.3 days, and I've seen the distro go from a small 
collection of packages to many hundreds of packages.  Before that, I 
remember a time when an entire Slackware distribution fit on 20 
floppies.  Thus, I perceive our problems as being growing pains.  I 
think understanding how the linux vendors handled these growing pains 
would be fruitful in how we approach this problem.  I know some might 
not want to hear it, but if setup.exe can't handle the current load or 
scale in a sane manner, perhaps the problem lies with setup.exe itself? 
 Look, setup.exe has served its purpose well, but now Windows comes 
with a feature-rich installer API.  The last time I checked, this API is 
available for all versions of Windows since 95.  Didn't someone broach 
the subject of possibly looking into NSIS installer (which, if I'm not 
mistaken, is a front-end for this API)?  Aside from being more 
aesthetically pleasing, there are some features NSIS has which are quite 
nice and would mesh well with some of the extended needs now handled by 
post-install scripts.  Choice is what it comes down to, and IMHO it 
should be the installer who needs to responsible for selecting the 
packages which best fit his/her needs.  I'm sick and tired of seeing 
things being dumbed down for the benefit of the clueless at the 
expense of the power-user, and I know I'm not alone.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Patch 20040321 for audio recording with /dev/dsp (indented), test issues

2004-03-23 Thread Nicholas Wourms
cgf wrote:

On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 12:09:33PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

Chris, do you have a personally approved set of indent options which
give a useful result, perhaps?


No, I don't use indent very often.

Gdb has an indent script, though.  I've attached it to this message.  I
can't confirm or deny if it works well for c++, though.
Indent is really for C code only, so it totally botches C++ 
constructors, destructors, classes, templates, virtuals, and just about 
anything else not C (especially templates).  I was not aware that GNU 
had any style standards for C++-specific code.  But then again, I find 
their standards to be boring, so I really haven't read them.  Like 
Corinna, I usually run it through ident using -gnu and fix it up 
afterwards.  Sometimes, if you pass private, public, class names and 
method names using -Tname1 -Tname2 it won't totally screw up.  It 
still will treat labels (both C++ public/private and C goto) as if they 
were part of a switch statement, indenting them.  Also, you'll want to 
use -T to declare any non-basic typedefs, such as off_t, clock_t, or 
size_t.  If you don't, it will indent a pointer declaration as if it 
were a multiplication statement.  Anyhow, IIRC, I believe these extra 
flags can be stored in a local dot file in the directory of the source 
file being indented (.indent.pro?).

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Ready for test coreutils-5.2.0-1 [again]

2004-03-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Here's what's changed since my last packaging attempt:

1) The following files are deleted from the distribution:
usr/bin/uptime.exe
usr/bin/kill.exe
usr/share/man/man1/uptime.1.gz
usr/share/man/man1/kill.1.gz
2) Fileutils patches have been included.

Package is available at the same location:

http://blackburn.homeip.net/cygwin-packages/release/coreutils/coreutils-5.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2 

http://blackburn.homeip.net/cygwin-packages/release/coreutils/coreutils-5.2.0-1.tar.bz2 

I have a suggestion for how to deal with the old 
fileutils/textutils/etc.  Provide empty versions of the packages this 
replaces, bumping each by 1 revision.  This way, it should uninstall 
the old stuff before installing the new stuff.  At least, it worked for 
Jan when the new teTeX packages were made.  Also, IIRC, some of the 
packages were linked against libbinmode.a to prevent problems with 
CR/LF.  I wonder if this ought to be libautomode?

Also, our /bin/sh is pretty much braindead (no job control, amoungst 
other things) since it was decided that shaving 50k off of ash is worth 
not having a POSIX compliant version.  Subsequently, the nohup script 
will not work with /bin/sh (ash), so it is necessary to force it to use 
bash instead.  See the following scripts from mknetrel to see what needs 
to be done pre/post config  build:
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/mknetrel/extra/fileutils?rev=1.2content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markupcvsroot=cygwin-apps
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/mknetrel/extra/sh-utils?rev=1.3content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markupcvsroot=cygwin-apps
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/mknetrel/extra/textutils?rev=1.2content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markupcvsroot=cygwin-apps

Note that it is easier to just to pass -L/usr/lib -lbinmode to LDFLAGS 
instead of bothering with printing gcc's search path.

Finally, this is kinda picky, but why not use bzip2 instead of gzip for 
the manpages?

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: ITP moratorium

2004-03-07 Thread Nicholas Wourms
cgf wrote:

We've had a flood of package ITPs and a missing package maintainer.

I'm imposing a moratorium on ITPs for now.
Thank you!!!  I was wondering when someone was going to stop the 
insanity ;-).

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: libungif (Was: Re: Maintainers/Packages List, 2003-11-01)

2004-02-22 Thread Nicholas Wourms
lapo wrote:
Frédéric L. W. Meunier wrote:

The author returned from a coma and it got a new home -
http://libungif.sourceforge.net/ . 4.1.1 was released some days
ago.


Thanks, i'll have time to take a look at it (and package it) probably in 
the beginning of next week ^_^
Speaking of which, I'm almost certain UNISYS's patent on LZW is now 
totally expired in most *MAJOR* countries.  Can we please make libungif 
- libgif?

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-22 Thread Nicholas Wourms
cgf wrote:

On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 07:39:49PM +0100, Andreas Seidl wrote:

However, a new problem might have popped up. Reading this thread

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg01103.html

I wonder if there are legal problems for RedHat to distribute the ccrypt 
package?

Andreas,

Next time, please keep it to yourself.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [RFC] Would there be a need for a java-wrappers package?

2004-02-22 Thread Nicholas Wourms
pechtcha wrote:

Hi, all,

I would like to hear opinions on how useful a java-wrappers package would
be.  The package will contain a few shell scripts that allow users to
invoke the regular Java SDK tools (java, javac, javadoc) from Cygwin,
making them look like their Unix counterparts (i.e., POSIX filenames).
The scripts would be updated versions of those posted in
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-01/msg00174.html.
There are a few reasons why I have misgivings about this.  First off, some
tools (notably Ant and Tomcat) recognize Cygwin and do something specific
to Cygwin anyway, which will probably (most likely) get screwed up if the
java they find looks like a Unix version (this did happen to me with Ant
and Cygwin-native jikes).  Secondly, the tools will certainly not be
foolproof (although I'll try my best to make them as robust and autonomous
as possible).  Thirdly, java versioning may become a problem.
You also might considier the problem which might arise if someone 
decided to package Kaffe.  Perhaps it is time to investigate that system 
that Debian uses for managing packages with conflicting names.  I think 
it is called update-alternatives or something like that...  Anyhow, the 
scripts are still a nice idea :-).  You might want to speak with Randall 
Schultz, he also has some really nice scripts I've been using for a year 
or two.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-22 Thread Nicholas Wourms
cgf wrote:

On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 04:27:06PM -0500, Nicholas Wourms wrote:

cgf wrote:

On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 07:39:49PM +0100, Andreas Seidl wrote:

However, a new problem might have popped up. Reading this thread
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg01103.html
I wonder if there are legal problems for RedHat to distribute the ccrypt 
package?
Next time, please keep it to yourself.


I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy it if Red Hat was taken to task for
something that could have been caught early, decided that cygwin wasn't
worth the hassle, and pulled it from sources.redhat.com.
No, I wouldn't, but I didn't intend on that being the only statement. 
Consider this:  The gpg which we distribute contains the *exact* same 
cipher, AES{128,192,256}, as ccrypt plus gpg also has twofish  
blowfish.  The last time I checked, those two were also considered 
strong encryption ciphers.  Moreover, gpg can be used encrypt and 
decrypt streams like ccrypt so, in a sense, they share similar 
functionality.  That's where I see the disconnect.  Does this mean we 
should ditch gpg as well or distribute a version with  128bit ciphers? 
 Frankly, I don't see why we should disqualified ccrypt because someone 
thinks it might be a problem.  Is it *really* a problem?

By his standard, RedHat has been breaking the law for years now, which 
leads me to conclude that either:
A)The authorities don't care.
B)Red Hat doesn't care.
or
C)RedHat already has filed the necessary paperwork to allow it to 
distribute binaries with strong encryption.

But, hey, thanks for clarifying just whom I can trust to be watching out
for the project's interests.
Hey, you certainly have a right to your opinion.  The reality is that I 
was trying to paste some text and accidentally sent that message before 
it was complete.  This reply contains some of the arguments I was 
planning on including in that message to debunk his theory.  Oh well, 
that's all water under the bridge, believe what you want to believe... 
I suppose I'll never get a gold star now ;-).

Cheers,
Nicholas
[1] The output of `gpg --help`:
Supported algorithms:
Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA, ELG
Cipher: 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH
Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256
Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB



*Ping*: fix strace and ssp opts for getopt argument permutation

2004-02-10 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Hi,

Can someone please comment on what's holding up this patch:
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-patches/2003-q4/msg00223.html
AFAICT, it was silently dropped without any reason.  I'm waiting on 
someone to commit it so that I can submit my update to getopt which 
brings in the OpenBSD additions, including new getopt_long_only support.

IANAL, but the modifications are s small (in fact half of them 
modify whitespace/comments) that I really should think it not be 
necessary to require an assignment.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: mingwex/getopt.c vs POSIXLY_CORRECT

2004-02-01 Thread Nicholas Wourms
danny_r_smith wrote:

Hello

This is a mingw issue, but effects cygwin -mno-cygwin apps (probably
setup) too so I cross-post to see what antipathy (a new word: as in
antipathy rules, OK) I raise.
The cygwin implementation of getopt and getopt_long effectively defaults
to POSIXLY_CORRECTness by virtue of: 
#define IS_POSIXLY_CORRECT (getenv(POSIXLY_INCORRECT_GETOPT) == NULL)

Now, that environmental variable is bit strange to me, particularly in a
native environment such as mingw that doesn't have a clue about PC, I
propose this patch, for mingw subdir, so that the default implementation
of mingw's getopt matches the documentation in NetBSD man page. In
effect this means that the permute and in_order BSD extensions (the
latter also a default GNUC extension) are enabled for mingw.
According to Chuck, this was only done because the default behaviour 
broke strace under Cygwin.

Unless I hear reasonable arguments against this, I will commit the patch
after 48 hours.
I don't think the above applies since the last time I checked, strace 
only works on Cygwin applications.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Patch winuser.h in w32api

2004-01-31 Thread Nicholas Wourms
pechtcha wrote:

3) Patches for w32api should be sent to the mingw-patches mailing list
(see http://mingw.org/).  FYI, they also have their own rules for
submitting patches -- see http://lists.sf.net/lists/listinfo/mingw-patches
for instructions.
Since when?  I've seen patches for w32api posted to and accepted from 
here on numerous occasions in the past.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [jjohnstn: initial version of iconv support checked in]

2004-01-29 Thread Nicholas Wourms
wrote:

Please don't: we already have a perfectly good iconv implementation in the
distribution and there's no law against providing iconv as a separate library
from the kernel/libc/whatnot.
Of course it isn't against the law, but the fact is that most modern, 
non-microsoft, libc's provide it.  Not all apps are GNU and some require 
a good deal of retooling to get them to recognize our libiconv.  You 
also might want to consider the interests of our current libiconv 
maintainer, who also happens to maintain quite a few other core 
packages.  I'm almost certain that he'd welcome not having to prepare 
and release new libiconv versions.  Also, you forget the fact that some 
of the binaries packaged in the Cygwin dll package rely on the external 
libiconv.  IMHO, applications which are part of that core package really 
ought not to rely on a library external to those provided by 
cygwin/w32api/newlib/libiberty.  Finally, it might be something desired 
by those looking to actually pay $$$ to license the Cygwin dll for use 
in non-GPL projects.

By far most applications don't care too much 
about transcoding, so most applications would simply have to carry around
some extra luggage if it were built into the Cygwin DLL.
Stop spreading FUD, that last part isn't true at all.  There is no 
extra baggage, if anything, application sizes might be reduced by a 
minuscule amount.  This is assuming one less external library would make 
for a slightly smaller PE header.  However, since it is:

A) impossible, by design, to statically link with Cygwin's libc

and...

B) impossible, by design, for ld to re-export symbols found in libc[1]

this concern really is a moot one.

That, and I wonder how libiconv would interact with this.. but as I haven't
given that any thought at all (only one neuron assigned to the task for the
next two seconds or so) I wouldn't be willing to make any guesses about that.
Simple, this replaces libiconv.  The libiconv dev package would be 
obsoleted, replaced with an empty one, however we would retain current 
libiconv runtime libs for compatibility.  This won't affect applications 
built against the old libiconv since the old libiconv data files aren't 
clobbered by newlib's iconv.  Shared  static libraries, however, would 
need to be rebuilt since libiconv uses different symbols from the libc 
iconv (it uses #define's in iconv.h to alias the expected symbols, such 
as iconv_open, to the libiconv versions.

Just my $0.02 (canadian - which is where I will be going in two wheels and 
three spokes [1])
Which is about $0.0125 US...

As I said before, I think we should take a wait and see approach. 
There's no rush or reason to make a decision now, since it is disabled 
by default.  Let some people try it out on their own and report back 
with their findings.  We can always revisit this at a later time, once 
the newlib iconv support is more mature.

Cheers,
Nicholas
[1] This, of course, is assuming the default case and does not consider 
the operations done during the building of the Cygwin dll or those 
involving custom ld scripts.



Re: CAMP (was Re: HEADSUP: Apache maintainer wanted!)

2004-01-22 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Jan 22 04:02, Reini Urban wrote:

Igor Pechtchanski schrieb:

http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#CAMP.  Done. :-D
BTW: I hope you all know what camp originally means.
Originally a term defined by Susan Sontag for a special outrageous and 
overt style mainly used by gays. We often use it in discussion on films. 
(camp style or camp aesthetic)

 http://www.filonova.no/konferanser/irscl/panel_3b.html


Wow, and I thought camp is originally a native english word, having
the meaning of a place where people stay in tents or other temporary
structures.
But I could be wrong.
Actually you are right, I don't know where people come up with this 
craziness, but camp has been in use for ages as a shorten form of 
basecamp and campsite.  I'm quite certain that it was in use long 
before the word gay meant anything else besides happy.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: ITP: sgml-base-1.1

2004-01-06 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a small package but one I hope will enable me (and perhaps
others) to contribute various SGML DTDs in a FHS-compliant way.
This is version 1.1-1 since there was a proposal about 2 years ago and
the 1.01-1 packages are floating around. 

It is mainly a single perl script, update-sgml-catalog, which comes 
from Debian's sgml-base package. It also includes text of the SGML/XML 
location proposals for FHS and LSB in the /usr/share/doc/sgml-base/ 
directory so maybe people can know why.

# sgml-base
sdesc: A FHS-compliant foundation for SGML packages
ldesc: The sgml-base package provides the basis for SGML 
and XML packages.  Mainly this is the update-sgml-catalog(8) 
script to build the /etc/sgml/catalog system catalog. Please 
see the documentation and examples in 
/usr/share/doc/sgml-base/ for more details.
category: Doc Text 
requires: perl

8-
#!/bin/sh
wget http://ns1.iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/sgml-base-1.1-1.tar.bz2
wget http://ns1.iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/sgml-base-1.1-1-src.tar.bz2
wget http://ns1.iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/setup.hint
8-
EXTRA INFO:
My eventual plan with this is to:

1. Get the DocBook SGML DTDs and DSSSL stylesheets packaged in a FHS-compliant
way. (Also the XML and XSL ones, though Marcel Telka has already packaged 4.2
without the SGML catalog part. It would be great if this could be eventually
updated and moved to the FHS standard locations.)
2. Remove the old cygnus-based stylesheet references from winsup/doc in CVS
(db2html, etc.), relying only on the FHS-compliant DocBook SGML installation.
3. Package openjade and opensp. These don't build with gcc3 yet, so that might
take a while. This would allow users to build cygwin-doc with tools available
from the Cygwin net release (with the possible exception of the info manual).
4. Package a bunch of other DTDs like {X,}HTML, TEI, EAD and stuff like
passivetex.
Thank You

I have a few comments to make, since I've been running a full-blown 
redhat-based docbook system under Cygwin for about 6 months now (I have 
all the extras, too, including the TeX stuff).  For most folks, getting 
a working system can be an exercise in masochism.  Getting a system 
which is distributed via packages can be even worse.  As I mention later 
on, this has been a long time in the making for me.

1)  For various reasons, I don't care for debian's approach to the 
layout of the /usr/share/sgml tree.  For one, it is obtuse and quite 
geared towards a debian linux system.  IMNSO, and not to be a suckup to 
RedHat, RedHat's layout makes much more sense.  Plus, it follows a more 
loosely adhered to standard for putting files where most scripts and 
configure programs expect them.  Furthermore, despite those links you 
gave, the FHS *really* doesn't have very much to say on the subject, 
other then specifying the TLD of the configuration directory and the 
data directory.

2)  As I mentioned, I have a working OpenSP/openjade.  The main problem 
is the prolific use of that [EMAIL PROTECTED] broken g++ #pragma (the same one 
that breaks mysql builds) in OpenSP.  Also, there are some other dumb 
c++ style issues which cause gcc-3.3+ to choke (thanks, of course, to 
the anal standards people on the gcc steering committee).  Anyhow, I 
have a patch against the current openjade  OpenSP which resolve all 
these problems, fix some leaks, and produce a usable jade suite.

3)  Someone has got to force our teTeX maintainer, Jan, to apply changes 
to the various TeX configuration files to make it usable with jadetex, 
xmltex, passivetex, etc.  The current defaults are way, way too small to 
handle the memory requirements needed for processing sgml/xml streams. 
In fact, these defaults seem to be geared towards users of machines with 
16MB or less memory, which is ridiculous for us.  Also, we need some new 
backends, namely hugelatex, built and distributed with the base teTex 
package.  TeX configuration, I have found, can be very sensitive, which 
is why minimizing the amount of changes to it from installed packages is 
a good thing.

4)  Another reason going with a more RedHat-ish layout is to make it 
easier to package the other items.  The spec files were extremely useful 
in demystifying the install process.  In fact, once I had hand-installed 
the various base programs, I was able to use rpm to build and install 
the rest from the srpms:
docbook-style-dssl-1.78-2
passivetex-1.24-2.1
xhtml1-dtds-1.0-5
docbook-utils-0.6.13-7
docbook-utils-pdf-0.6.13-7
docbook-dtds-1.0-22.1
docbook-style-xsl-1.61.2-2.1
xmltex-2118-14.1
jadetex-3.12-9
perl-SGMLpm-103ii-12
linuxdoc-tools-0.9.21-1

5)  Doing it the RedHat way enabled me to produce a system which could 
actually build our documentation using the db2* utils.  The cygnus style 
sheets are actually quite nice, once you get used to them.

6)  You really shouldn't use 

Re: libwin32-perl-0.191 (ready for upload and testing)

2003-12-30 Thread Nicholas Wourms
rkitover wrote:
Hi Gerrit,

Thanks so much for testing my package! What a mess :)

Gerrit,

Now that it seems we'll be providing perl module packages, I think we 
should come up with some sort of naming standard for consistency.  For 
example, Red Hat prefixes their perl packages with perl- and generally 
uses the same case as is found on CPAN.  So if we were to adopt this 
route, this package would be perl-libwin32-0.191-1.

Also, may I suggest we make a release subdir especially for perl 
modules on the mirrors (like XFree86)?  This way we can keep the perl 
modules neatly tucked away in their own subdir hierarchy, rather then 
cluttering up the already growing release TLD.  Just a thought...

Some other food for thought:

1) Man pages are good, especially since they can be indexed and keyed.
   Have builders use make manifypods prior to make install.
2) Try not to clobber the perllocal.pod, but rather come up with a way
   to update it (perhaps regenerate it from a pool of fragments?).
3) Make a vendorinstalldir for Cygwin, to keep our mods separate from
   user's local mods, but provide a stable api for dependencies like
   mod-perl or what-not.
Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Please try the latest snapshot -- it is close to cygwin 1.5.6

2003-12-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Pierre A. Humblet wrote:
At 12:46 PM 12/27/2003 -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:

I missed the 'sh -c' clue in your previous message.  Since sh uses
vfork, that indicates a vfork problem.  I've checked in some more
changes to deal with this.  It seems to do the right thing both with sh
-c and without.  It also should have the added benefit of doing the
right thing wrt deallocating the console appropriately since open_fhs
should now track the ctty usecount.  This was screwed up before,
apparently even before I started mucking with the tty stuff.
I sure do hate usage counting.

cgf


Yes, that works fine now, as does bash -c inetd.

Sorry to jump in on this, but I run into a few problems with the changes 
you made last night and one issue which has been a problem for some time 
now.

This is on my Win2k box and all problems were noticed when I logged in 
remotely via ssh (I have not tried locally).  If it makes any 
difference, the /usr/src dir, where all my project and cygwin source is 
contained, is a managed mount.

Issues from yesterday's checkin:
1)When run by itself from the command line, `make` is not forking 
properly for recursive makes, instead it aborts and returns a bogus 
HANGUP signal to the console.  This is easily seen when attempting to 
build the Cygwin tree.  I cannot provide any useful output since it 
appears that calling the process from within gdb or through strace 
actually keeps make from failing to fork, but make still screws up the 
order of entry into subdirs.

2)`procps auxf` incorrectly identifies top-parent processes as 
defunct, even though ps and the nt process monitor shows them to be 
valid.  However, for postgres's postmaster, the parent and *all* 
children are labeled as defunct even though I can confirm that the 
server is up and running.

3)Running configure scripts using sh.exe (which is default when you 
./configure) always hangs, whereas running them through bash.exe works 
fine (although it does hang from time to time).  In either case, when it 
hangs, doing ctrl-c will drop you to the command line.  However, the 
process isn't terminated, like one would expect.  Also, it refuses to 
obey any signal except SIGKILL.

Existing issues since 1.5.5:
3)I find myself involuntarily logged-out of my sessions at random 
intervals.  This is especially prevalent when doing massive recursive 
`rm -rf`'s or `grep -rn`'s or any other form of intensive disk i/o. 
However, whatever is causing it seems to be getting fixed, since this 
happens less frequently then it used to.  A small kludge I use to get 
around this is by running links.exe then using ctrl-Z to send it to a 
stopped state.  Then if it tries to log me out, it will fail because I 
have a stopped process.

4)lynx crashes on startup, dropping me back to the command line. 
Running it through gdb, the segfault happens at line 81 of cygtls.cc, 
_last_thread-next = this which is inside the function 
_threadinfo::init_thread(void*).  Unfortunately, my system is in a state 
where I cannot get make to run correctly, so trying to build a debug 
version of lynx at this point is not feasible.  I should note that I do 
not see this problem inside links.

Although I'm further investigating these problems, I thought I might 
share them since the next release is being discussed.

Cheers,
Nicholas


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Re: 1.5.6-pre: Occasional bad memory accesses within cygwin1.dll

2003-12-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Max Bowsher wrote:

I installed a self-built cygwin HEAD version - mostly it works fine, but it
causes odd failures during builds (speculation: race when many processes
being created and destroyed?)
The most common failure is a Windows error box:

The instruction at 0x6108621a references memory at 0x610030b0. The
memory could not be written.
(These addresses are constant.)

$ addr2line -e /bin/cygwin1.dll 0x6108621a 0x610030b0
.../src/winsup/cygwin/shm.cc:331
.../src/winsup/cygwin/cygthread.cc:34
The errors are usually in sed, grep, or dirname.

This is sometimes accompanied by this error on the console:

4 [proc] sh 1160 sig_send: error sending signal 20 to pid 1160, pipe handle
0x, Win32 error 6
Less common failures include shell scripts receiving terminating with a
Hangup message, or locking up entirely.
I've seen this while running recursive `make`'s.  Have you tried running 
configure or make from within gdb?  I've found that doing that actually 
seems to prevent the races which you describe, however it does cause 
make to screwup the subdir entry order.  As for the locking up, a big 
ditto there.

Also, are you having any trouble with lynx?

Cheers,
Nicholas


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Re: ImageMagick/Graphicsmagick

2003-12-21 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Again, you have not investigating the best solution here.  You have
made up you mind based on just a few criteria and you are shoving it
down everyones throat.  Given your strong statements and clear unwillingness
to discuss which project is best based on merit, don't bother replying.
I will not waste anymore of the CYGWIN community's time on a dead subject.
I will tell the CYGWIN community that ImageMagick Studio intends to 
have full support of ImageMagick 5.5.7 and 5.5.8 Beta for CYGWIN and both
source and binaries will be available on
ftp://ftp.imagemagick.org/pub/ImageMagick.


I'm sorry but I don't like the potential ramifications if this were to 
happen.  Not that I really have any say in the matter, I don't, but I 
feel that others out there share some of the concerns I will mention.

Harold, you've earned every right to make this decision as you see fit, 
and I respect that, but surely some sort of compromise can be reached 
which will satisfy both parties?  The original author seems willing to 
work with your complaints if you are willing to keep an open mind.

However, the original author should realize that Harold has some valid 
points concerning the libtool versioning you used as well as hardcoding 
the version minors into the module directory paths.  In effect, this 
means that we'd have to make a new runtime package each time the 
subminor was bumped PLUS keep the existing packages to maintain backward 
compatibility.

On the other hand, I've not looked at GraphicsMagick, do they use the 
same names for includes, include-dirs, modules, module-dirs,  
libraries?  If not, I can definitely see this as a PITA if you are 
building something which depends on the original names, since you'd have 
to tell it the new names and such.  However, if it does use the same 
names, then inevitably there are going to be many who get confused and 
unintentionally (or perhaps intentionally) install both versions of the 
this software.  When dll hell starts to set in, they probably aren't 
going to e-mail either of you personally, rather they are going to flood 
our already high-volume main list with false bug reports and what not. 
 Plus, what if I or anyone else decide to package something which 
depends on the ImageMagick libraries?  Then we'd have to tell people to 
make sure they uninstall the author's version to be able to use my 
package, even if they preferred the author's version.  You can see where 
I'm going with this and the picture isn't pretty.

Cheers,
Nicholas


[BUG] Cygwin dll (cvs): subdirs of the root dir of a managed mount do not inherit the ability to create files using reserved names

2003-12-21 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Hi All,

This is using a dll compiled from the latest cvs source.  The problem 
occurs in newly created subdirs of a managed mount's rootdir.  For 
illustration purposes, /usr/src is the mountpoint and /usr/src/temp is 
the newly created directory.  Here's how to reproduce:

1)mount /usr/src as managed.
2)create the dir /usr/src/temp.
3)cd /usr/src/temp.
4)try running `touch aux.c` (this should fail).
5)cd ..
6)try running `touch aux.c` (this should succeed).
I ran strace on both operations and observed that the problem may be 
rooted in conv_to_win32_path().  I haven't had much time to thoroughly 
dig into the source, so I might be wrong.  For your reference I've 
attached a brief summary of my observations as well as the relevant 
differences between the two straces.

Cheers,
Nicholas
This is the mount:
C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src on /usr/src type system (binmode,managed)

CYGWIN=ntsec ntea tty binmode codepage:oem server check_case:strict export

**
Program name: C:\Cygnus\cygwin\bin\touch.exe (1964)
App version:  1005.0, api: 0.88
DLL version:  1005.6, api: 0.109
   ^
DLL build:2003-12-17 20:17
OS version:   Windows NT-5.0
Heap size:1073741824
Date/Time:2003-12-21 19:33:36
**

Please note that I have bumped the minor 107-109 because of ongoing work to add
some of the resolver  catgets stuff.  Otherwise, it is a stock dll with a stock
touch.

To be clear, items preceded by minus (-) signs are the differences from the strace
of `touch aux.c` run in the subdir (/usr/src/temp), while the items preceded by
plus (+) signs are the differences from the strace of `touch aux.c` run in the
root of the managed mount (/usr/src).

You'll most likely be interested in the content at (@@ -355,55 +350,78 @@), which
is where I note that the logic path between the two traces first diverges.  It would
seem to me that the problem happens in conv_to_win32_path(), as this seen in the
following:
-[main] touch mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: conv_to_win32_path (/usr/src/temp/aux.c)
-[main] touch set_flags: flags: binary (0x2)
-[main] touch mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: src_path /usr/src/temp/aux.c, dst 
C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src\temp\aux.c, flags 0x80A, rc 0
+[main] touch mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: conv_to_win32_path (/usr/src/aux.c)
+[main] touch set_flags: flags: binary (0x2)
+[main] touch mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: src_path /usr/src/aux.c, dst 
C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src\%61ux.c, flags 0x80A, rc 0


--- strace.resname.subdir.1 2003-12-21 19:38:03.453125000 -0500
+++ strace.resname.topdir.1 2003-12-21 19:38:48.859375000 -0500
@@ -40,22 +40,17 @@
 [main] touch environ_init: 0x10200ED8: MSSDK=C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDK\.
 [main] touch environ_init: 0x10200F08: MSTOOLS=C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDK\.
 [main] touch environ_init: 0x10200F38: NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS=2
-[main] touch environ_init: 0x10200F58: OLDPWD=/usr/src
-[main] touch environ_init: 0x10200F70: OS2LIBPATH=C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;
-[main] touch environ_init: 0x10200FA0: OS=Windows_NT
+[main] touch environ_init: 0x10200F58: OLDPWD=/usr/src/cygwin-src
+[main] touch environ_init: 0x10200F78: OS2LIBPATH=C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;
+[main] touch environ_init: 0x10200FA8: OS=Windows_NT
 [main] touch getwinenv: can't set native for PATH= since no environ yet
 [main] touch normalize_posix_path: src .
-[main] touch mount_info::conv_to_posix_path: conv_to_posix_path 
(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src\temp, no-keep-rel, no-add-slash)
-[main] touch normalize_win32_path: C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src\temp = 
normalize_win32_path (C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src\temp)
-[main] touch mount_info::conv_to_posix_path: /usr/src/temp = conv_to_posix_path 
(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src\temp)
-[main] touch cwdstuff::get: posix /usr/src/temp
-[main] touch cwdstuff::get: (/usr/src/temp) = cwdstuff::get (0x22F598, 260, 1, 0), 
errno 0
-[main] touch normalize_posix_path: /usr/src/temp = normalize_posix_path (.)
-[main] touch mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: conv_to_win32_path (/usr/src/temp)
-[main] touch set_flags: flags: binary (0x2)
-[main] touch mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: src_path /usr/src/temp, dst 
C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src\temp, flags 0x80A, rc 0
-[main] touch symlink_info::check: not a symlink
-[main] touch symlink_info::check: 0 = symlink.check (C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src\temp, 
0x22F258) (0x80A)

+[main] touch mount_info::conv_to_posix_path: conv_to_posix_path 
(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src, no-keep-rel, no-add-slash)
+[main] touch normalize_win32_path: C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src = normalize_win32_path 
(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src)
+[main] touch mount_info::conv_to_posix_path: /usr/src = conv_to_posix_path 
(C:\Cygnus\cygwin\usr\src)
+[main] touch cwdstuff::get: posix /usr/src
+[main] touch cwdstuff::get: (/usr/src) = cwdstuff::get (0x22F598, 260, 1, 0), errno 0
+[main] touch normalize_posix_path: /usr/src = normalize_posix_path (.)
 [main] touch mount_info::conv_to_win32_path: 

[FYI] Cygwin dll: mv'ing non-managed dirs to managed mounts also fails

2003-12-19 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Hi all,

I gather this isn't going to be fixed, which is fine by me, since cp -a 
-preserve=all works equally as well.  However, I would like to note for 
the record and the archives that `mv` is also experiencing problems when 
moving non-managed folders to managed mounts as was hypothesized by CGF in:
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2003-09/msg01122.html

The symptom is that, after the folder is moved, ls is only able to see 
files/dirs with all lowercase, returning ENOENT for any file/dir with a 
capital letter in its name.

I know that patches are gratefully accepted, but I would suggest a 
two-tier approach to solving this.  First, add a new routine and flag to 
mount which would allow the user to make mount walk the dir tree of the 
source and do what magic is needed to bring the items under managed 
mode.  The second part would be to modify mv  friends to check for this 
attribute on the source and dest if copying between mounts, taking 
appropriate action as necessary.  I don't think this is all that foreign 
to file-utils, since it somewhat analogous to manipulating files between 
ALC/EA-aware fs's and those fs's which are non-ACL/EA aware.

Cheers,
Nicholas
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Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Charles Wilson wrote:

Nicholas Wourms wrote:

Charles would expect...an X-only drag-n-drop wouldn't be that 
helpful.

Why not?  We have other X11 packages which could utilize this.  Plus, 
Harold's on a mission to knock the number of X11 packages sky-high, so 
undoubtly we'll see many more applications which will utilize this.


XEmacs speaks the following two dragndrop dialects: CDE, and Offix.  Not 
the opendesktop one, nor the KDE one, nor the Gnome one.  So, of 
Harold's new packages, which ones support CDE or Offix style dragndrop?
None, but as I mention later on, I had heard that it supported other dnd 
protocols.

(Now, I believe the GTK-XEmacs build sprechen se Gnome/opendesktop 
dragndrop -- but GTK-XEmacs isn't under discussion.  (At least, not 
until we get a glib, atk, pango, and gtk package.)
The last time I heard, Xemacs also spoke the official X11 XDnD and 
Motif/Lesstif DnD protocols.  Even if not fully supported yet, I'm 
pretty sure there was some support for those protocols.

We can make an xemacs-extra package, but there's still the conflict 
with the ctags package.


Are the source code differences mutually exclusive or is one a subset 
of the other.  Perhaps merging the changes into the other packages 
might be the way to go?  AFAIK, ctags and friends don't depend on any 
emacs-specific share libs, right?


I dunno.  The point is, that on Mandrake at least, these conflicting 
files were moved into a separate package so that one could install both 
Emacs / XEmacs / Ctags / etc.  That is, if there are conflicts, minimize 
and segregate them.

As I'm sure you know, RPM handles conflicts gracefully while setup 
mostly does not.  Therefore, this makes things more complicated on 
Cygwin, since conflicting packages can actually lead to conflicting 
files not being installed at all.  I would *strongly* urge that we not 
intentionally allow any conflicts at all (at least not at this point), 
as it can lead to all sorts of problems.  IIRC from the last ctags/emacs 
fiasco, Corinna made her stance on conflicting ctags known:  she would 
have none of that.  However, since these conflicts all share a similar, 
albeit forked, codebase, wouldn't it be better, in the long run, if we 
just merged them into a single package?  Since I'm the one asking, I'll 
check out the sources later on and see if this is possible.  If nothing 
else, I'm pretty good at merging code from forks :-).

Not necessarily, those aren't your only options.  If he's using it 
statically, then all that is really needed is to provide the source in 
the xemacs tarball and have the build script build it.  There is no 
need to ITP the whole thing if all that you want is the client library 
part.  This is done by a couple of other packages which use external 
static libs.


Sure.  Personally, I view that as even MORE work than just ITP'ing LDAP.
I'm curious as to why you think this is so?  Surely providing a small 
portion of the script for compiling, but not installing, a static 
openldap client lib is going to be much easier in the long run? 
Otherwise, you'd have to package the full development libraries, not to 
mention the server itself, and you'd have to be willing to provide 
support, as well.  I'm not trying to doubt the capabilities or 
motivations of Dr. Zell, but why advocate he volunteer to maintain the 
entire kitchen sink when all he needs is water?  If Dr. Zell actually 
wants to provide and support the entire package, then more power to him. 
 Otherwise, I see OpenLDAP as being at least as much, if not more, of a 
maintenance burden as Apache currently is.  Thus, it would be much more 
work in the long-run supporting it rather then building it as an 
internal static client lib.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-13 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Dr Volker Zell wrote
[SNIP]
I'll try if it works.
It should now since the latest X11 has fixed libXt so that a shared 
Xaw3d works...

Charles that.  I also suspect that --with-dragndrop won't work with an X-based
Charles build of XEmacs on cygwin (at least, not in the way we Windows denizens
Charles would expect...an X-only drag-n-drop wouldn't be that helpful.
Why not?  We have other X11 packages which could utilize this.  Plus, 
Harold's on a mission to knock the number of X11 packages sky-high, so 
undoubtly we'll see many more applications which will utilize this.

Charles FWIW, on my Mandrake system, the following files are in an
Charles xemacs-extras package:
Charles /usr/bin/b2m
Charles /usr/bin/ctags
Charles /usr/bin/etags
Charles /usr/bin/ootags
Charles /usr/bin/rcs-checkin
Charles /usr/share/doc/xemacs-extras-21.4.12
Charles /usr/share/doc/xemacs-extras-21.4.12/README
Charles /usr/share/man/man1/ctags.1.bz2
Charles /usr/share/man/man1/etags.1.bz2
We can make an xemacs-extra package, but there's still the conflict with the ctags package.
Are the source code differences mutually exclusive or is one a subset of 
the other.  Perhaps merging the changes into the other packages might be 
the way to go?  AFAIK, ctags and friends don't depend on any 
emacs-specific share libs, right?

Charles There's a problem with your proposed distribution: you *MUST* distribute
Charles all relevant source code, including libraries.  It's not acceptable for
Charles us to provide an xemacs binary which is linked against a static LDAP
Charles library yet not also provide the source for that LDAP library.
Charles I'm afraid you'll either need to turn off LDAP support, or ITP an LDAP
Charles package.

I think I go for an LDAP package...

Not necessarily, those aren't your only options.  If he's using it 
statically, then all that is really needed is to provide the source in 
the xemacs tarball and have the build script build it.  There is no need 
to ITP the whole thing if all that you want is the client library part. 
 This is done by a couple of other packages which use external static libs.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [ITP] xemacs: A powerful, highly customizable open source text editor and application development system

2003-12-12 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Dr Volker Zell wrote:
Hi

I would like to contribute and maintain the xemacs package:

 * http://xemacs.org/ (Homepage)
 * http://ftp.us.xemacs.org/ftp/pub/  (Download location) 

Hi Dr Zell,

FYI, the emacs provided via setup is Xemacs, not GNU emacs.  So this is 
already provided by the emacs-* packages and is maintained by Joe 
Buehler.  I'm not sure if the elisp packages it provides is as 
all-inclusive as the sumo version, so he'd be the guy to talk to 
regarding that.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: An ImageMagick review (partial) [Was Re: [ITP - Ready for review] ImageMagick]

2003-12-05 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Chuck wrote:

So, maybe you *shouldn't* revert back to -release versioning.  I'd ask 
Bob F. what he was thinking...because 'strings cygMagick-6.dll' (or 
'strings libMagick-5.5.x.so' on linux) shows that the 
/usr/lib/ImageMagick-X.Y.Z/modules-Q16/coders/ path is compiled into the 
DLL, which means that the interface really really DOES change with every 
release, so you might as well use -${MAJ}-${MIN}-${MIC} to name the 
shared library!

While you're at it, ask them what they were on when they created two 
files in the guide dir which have the same name, but different case. 
They really ought to know better...

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [ITP] ImageMagick

2003-12-03 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

David,

Billinghurst, David (CALCRTS) wrote:

I have built ImageMagick-5.5.3 as a shared library.  It worked for me
some time in July 2003.
I indended to contribute the package myself, but  (insert usual 
excuses). I am travelling on business, but I have one of my old build 
script with me.  See below.


Thanks.  Can you justify the following flags you passed:

  --disable-largefile --without-frozenpaths \
  --with-magick-plus-plus --without-perl -without-wmf
--without-perl is required because the PerlMagick build fails.
Getting it to support a vendor installdir is actually not that 
difficult.  OOTB, it isn't DESTDIR friendly.  However, all it requires 
is, post configure, switching to the perl dir and rerunning perl 
Makefile.PL with the appropriate MakeMaker args to get it to work.

--without-wmf is detected automatically.
--with-magick-plus-plus is detected automatically.
I see no reason why we shouldn't support Magick++, it built fine for me 
a year ago.

--without-frozenpaths is a mystery to me.  I don't know what it does.

Additionally, configure.ac looks for convert:

AC_PATH_PROG(ConvertDelegate, $ConvertDelegateDefault, 
$ConvertDelegateDefault)

On Windows, it finds:

checking for convert... /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/convert

Not out of the box, but you could do what I do, which is to add a script 
to profile.d which sanitizes my $PATH of unnecessary entries.  Or you 
could set the PATH inside the build script and restore it after it 
finishes.  Or, if you are feeling bold my friend, you could rewrite the 
macro based on the source from the m4 file in global autoconf share dir. 
 You'd need to change the name of the macro (i.e. AC_CYG_PATH_PROG), 
edit it so that it sanitizes the $PATH of /cygdrive/* before beginning 
the actual check, and then drop the macro into acinclude or 
configure.{in,ac} itself.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [ITP] ImageMagick

2003-12-03 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Harold wrote:
Nicholas Wourms wrote:

Harold wrote:

David,

Billinghurst, David (CALCRTS) wrote:

I have built ImageMagick-5.5.3 as a shared library.  It worked for me
some time in July 2003.
I indended to contribute the package myself, but  (insert usual 
excuses). I am travelling on business, but I have one of my old 
build script with me.  See below.




Thanks.  Can you justify the following flags you passed:

  --disable-largefile --without-frozenpaths \
  --with-magick-plus-plus --without-perl -without-wmf
--without-perl is required because the PerlMagick build fails.


Getting it to support a vendor installdir is actually not that 
difficult.  OOTB, it isn't DESTDIR friendly.  However, all it requires 
is, post configure, switching to the perl dir and rerunning perl 
Makefile.PL with the appropriate MakeMaker args to get it to work.


I ran 'perl Makefile.PL' but it complained about not being able to find 
some X libs.  Any clue as to what the appropriate MakeMaker args would 
be?  I have no idea what MakeMaker is let along what args it needs.
Oh yeah, that's right!  Dumb MakeMaker is screwing up because it only 
tries to look for libname.a on Cygwin and won't recognize dll.a's by 
themselves.  Gerrit fixed this problem upstream after the 5.8.1 perl 
release.  Let me check an make sure that the latest perl (rather then 
just CVS) has the fix...  Ah yes, it was fixed in 6.20.  Can you update 
to Gerrit's test release of perl 5.8.2 via setup.exe?  According to my 
installation of 5.8.2, it has MakeMaker 6.21, so you should be good to go.

Now, as for how to do the DESTDIR installation.  This is what RedHat 
does, and it works for me in most cases:

perl Makefile.pl
make OPTIMIZE=$CFLAGS
make manifypods
make install PREFIX=/destdir/usr
where destdir is the *full* canonical path to the .inst/ dir.

Please be sure to remove any perllocal.pod files in the destdir, as they 
will clobber the installer's installed-module list (in the same manner 
as texinfo's dir entry file).

--without-wmf is detected automatically.
--with-magick-plus-plus is detected automatically.


I see no reason why we shouldn't support Magick++, it built fine for 
me a year ago.


I think you read that wrong: --with- is detected automatically.  That 
is, it defaults to yes.
Ooops, indeed I did read wrong.

--without-frozenpaths is a mystery to me.  I don't know what it does.

Additionally, configure.ac looks for convert:

AC_PATH_PROG(ConvertDelegate, $ConvertDelegateDefault, 
$ConvertDelegateDefault)

On Windows, it finds:

checking for convert... /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/convert

Not out of the box, but you could do what I do, which is to add a 
script to profile.d which sanitizes my $PATH of unnecessary entries.


Could you send in that snippit for me?  I had to clean the path by hand 
this time.
This is what I use to get rid of a dumb path with spaces (which causes 
all sorts of mayhem on my box):
#Get rid of annoying spaces in $PATH
NEWPATH=`echo ${PATH} | sed -e s:\/cygdrive\/c\/Program\ 
Files\/Symantec\/Norton\ Ghost\ 2003\/\:::g`
export PATH=/usr/cygwrappers:${NEWPATH}

I just put it in path.sh, dropped it in my profile.d, and was good to 
go.  Obviously, you can add more path expressions by passing additional 
strings of ' -e s:expr::g ' to the pipeline.  Be sure to get 'em 
inside the tick marks, if you do add on.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Possible bug with __attribute__((alias)) in gcc-3.3

2003-12-03 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Danny Smith wrote:

Nicholas wrote: 

One problem is that you (or gcc) need to tell ld that 'foo' is function, not
data.
I'll be the first to admit that I'm almost totally w/o a clue when it 
comes to assembly.  I'm afraid the gas manual is not very helpful in my 
effort to alleviate this :-(.

Adding this to file foo.c (after the alias declaration):
__asm__ (.def _foo; .scl 2; .type 32; .endef\n);
would do that.
That fixes the testcase on mingw anyway. 
Yes!  Thanks, this helps a ton!  I can confirm it works in native 
Cygwin, too.

I'm testing a patch now that would make gcc do that too (for aliased 
functions).
Cool deal, I look forward to trying it.

I only wish gas could better handle converting what I assume to be ELF 
syntax.  This is often the case in other projects, for example from 
MySQL's strings-x86.s:

.globl bmove_allign
  .type  bmove_allign,@function
bmove_allign:
   ...
   asm stuff
   ...
.end:
   .size bmove_allign,.end-bmove_allign
Yes, this wish is pure laziness, but it would save time and make more 
asm code work OOTB if gas could deal with it.

However, in general,when you do dllexport with code written in straight
assembler, you will need to add a function directive like the one above
so that the linker does the right thing.  
For the archives and in case anyone was curious, here's what I've 
devised (until your patch to gcc gets in) for {weak,strong}_alias macros:

#define weak_alias(name, aliasname) strong_alias(name, aliasname)

#define strong_alias(name, aliasname) \
 extern __typeof__(name) aliasname __attribute__((__alias__(#name))); \
 __asm__(.def \_ #aliasname \; .scl 2; .type 32; .endef\n);
After your patch gets in, I'll drop the third line.

Again, I'm in uncharted territory, but...   If you think it looks ok, I 
would like to add these compatibility macros to Cygwin's sys/cdefs.h. 
 This is assuming that the values in .scl and .type remain static for 
PE-32bit.  Feel free to add them to MingW, as well, if you want.

Why should we have them, one might ask?  Frankly, because having to type 
out all that crap for each project takes too long and too much effort. 
I imagine this is why GNU  BSD put them in system headers in the first 
place.  Bind is just one example of what happens when you don't have 
these macros.  Just #define'ing the aliases in headers won't cut it 
because this will break some autoconf scripts or builds if the function 
is implicitly used by them (which I believe is the case for AC_CHECK_LIB).

(BTW, you've just reminded me of a  similar problem in libffi assembly code
that needs to be fixed.  Thanks )
No problem, glad to help ;-).

Cheers,
Nicholas


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Re: Possible bug with __attribute__((alias)) in gcc-3.3

2003-12-03 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Nicholas Wourms wrote:

[SNIP]

#define strong_alias(name, aliasname) \
 extern __typeof__(name) aliasname __attribute__((__alias__(#name))); \
 __asm__(.def \_ #aliasname \; .scl 2; .type 32; .endef\n);
 ^^  ^^
Sorry,
Ack, I pasted an older version of the macro, which was over quoted. 
This should be the one that works:

#define strong_alias(name, aliasname) \
 extern __typeof__(name) aliasname __attribute__((__alias__(#name))); \
 __asm__(.def _ #aliasname ; .scl 2; .type 32; .endef\n);
Cheers,
Nicholas


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Re: [Review - Good to go] suite3270 [Needs 1 more vote]

2003-12-02 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Corinna wrote:

On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 12:26:24AM -0500, Daniel Reed wrote:

That being said, I will list you as voting pro for suite3270. The suite3270
proposal is now only one vote away, as you stated.


No, it's not.  I voted already pro inclusion, right after Peter's
first proposal.
I say pro, too!

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [PATCH]: Add flock syscall emulation

2003-12-01 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Corinna wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 12:57:48PM -0500, Nicholas Wourms wrote:

Corinna wrote:

I've run indent on flock.c since its formatting was non-GNU.
I can understand why you did it in this case (the tabs were out of 
control), but can we make an exception for bsd/isc-derived code?  I 
think that enforcing this rule strictly on written-from-scratch source 
is ok, but doing it on derived source reduces the overall transparency 
of changes against the upstream version.


I see.  Is that necessary for flock?  It's not BSD derived and will
not likely need another external update.
Oh, I think I was unclear.  I was trying to say is that I agree with 
your formatting changes to the flock code.  I just wanted to see if I 
could have an exception from this policy in certain cases where the 
source was derived.

However, we have a problem here, which I just saw when looking into
the flock code another time.  The newlib defintion of `struct flock'
isn't 64 bit aware and it doesn't adhere to the SUSv3 definition.  :-(
It uses 'long' as datatypes for l_start and l_len but these should
be off_t.

So we need to define flock32 and flock64 structs and change the fcntl
interface to accept both.  Sic.
Hmm, I see what you mean.  While I've been mulling over the problem, it 
seems you've already solved it.  Thanks for catching that oversight on 
my part.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [PATCH]: Add flock syscall emulation

2003-11-30 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 12:01:04AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:



Is there any reason this can't be a .cc rather than a .c
?

I was just following what was done with other pure C source files, such 
as fnmatch.c.  However, I'll make a note to use .cc in the future.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [PATCH]: Add flock syscall emulation

2003-11-30 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Corinna wrote:

On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 02:51:10PM -0500, Nicholas Wourms wrote:

Hi All,

Here is a patch to add the flock() syscall to Cygwin.  I've noticed that some


Applied with changes.

I've run indent on flock.c since its formatting was non-GNU.
I can understand why you did it in this case (the tabs were out of 
control), but can we make an exception for bsd/isc-derived code?  I 
think that enforcing this rule strictly on written-from-scratch source 
is ok, but doing it on derived source reduces the overall transparency 
of changes against the upstream version.  Indent in GNU mode will 
practically rewrite every line in just about any BSD source file out 
there, since their formatting style is clearly different.  I'd argue, 
however, that the BSD style is just as clear and readable as the GNU 
style.  For instance, because DJ didn't run localtime.cc through indent, 
resolving the changes in the latest tzdata sources is like 50x easier.

 I've removed the _DEFUN, since it's nowhere else used in Cygwin.  I've
added a change message to include/sys/file.h according to the
licensing terms in include/sys/copying.dj.
The _DEFUN was leftover from when I had been debating about whether to 
add it to newlib or cygwin, but clearly cygwin was the proper choice. 
Thanks for catching that DJ licensing thing, though.

I removed the _flock from cygwin.din.  This should in future really only be
 used if newlib expects a new syscall.

As I said, it was mostly an afterthought.


As a side note, I noticed that sys/file.h was from DJGPP.  Will DJ allow us to
use code from DJGPP in Newlib/Cygwin?  If so, I noticed some code in the DJGPP
libc which I could port and use in future contributions.
This is a question you should ask DJ.  AFAIK, DJGPP is GPLd.  This
would mean that its code isn't suitable for use in Cygwin itself.
Ok, I'll ask him, though I find it curious that there is DJGPP libc code 
in Cygwin despite this.  I'll also see if he's interested in the changes 
I made.

Thanks for cleaning it up.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: tin-1.6.2-1 patch to fix charset dotlock issues

2003-11-29 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Alexey Volkov wrote:

Hello everybody.

Here is some kind of a [proposed] patch to fix charset(1) and 
dotlocking(2) issues in the tin-1.6.2-1

[SNIP]
diff -urbN tin-1.6.2-1/src/Makefile.in tin-1.6.2-1-patched/src/Makefile.in
--- tin-1.6.2-1/src/Makefile.in 2003-08-10 19:27:36.0 +0600
+++ tin-1.6.2-1-patched/src/Makefile.in 2003-11-28 00:20:36.0 +0500
@@ -65,6 +65,9 @@
 INTL_LIBS  = @INTLLIBS@
 PCRE_LIBS  = @PCREDIR_LIBS@ @PCREDIR_MAKE@ -L../pcre -lpcre
 LIBS   = $(PCRE_LIBS) $(CANLIB) @LIBS@ @INN_NNTPLIB@ $(INTL_LIBS)
+ifeq (@host_os@,cygwin)
+LIBS   = $(PCRE_LIBS) $(CANLIB) @LIBS@ @INN_NNTPLIB@ $(INTL_LIBS) -lkernel32
Adding -lkernel32 is not necessary because gcc's collect2 automatically 
passes this as an argument to ld during the link stage when building a 
native cygwin binary.  See the *lib: line after invoking `gcc 
-dumpspecs` to see the libraries gcc automatically links in.

Cheers,
Nicholas


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Re: New package: tzcode-2003d-1

2003-11-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The package 'tzcode' is now available with the Cygwin distribution.

 o http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm (Homepage)
 o ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/  (Download location) 
  
I know the train has already left the station, but I do have a few 
nitpicks about the package (other then my earlier ones).

Aren't zoneinfo data alternatives supposed to go in 
/usr/share/zoneinfo/alternative name?  Having three zoneinfo dirs in 
Top-Level /usr/share doesn't seem right and is definitely not FHS compliant.

I don't know if this is relevant, but I also noticed that glibc has no 
leaps dir but it does have a right dir.  Is this going to be a problem?

I would like to resolve this so that I can submit a patch for 
zoneinfo.cc and tzfile.h so that they correctly locate the zoneinfo tree 
and various other files (currently they look in /usr/local/etc/zoneinfo 
by default).  While I'm at it, I also plan to update the code to the 
latest source provided by this package (since it appears DJ just copied 
the source from there in the first place).  This way, it will save you 
the trouble of maintaining an additional, unneeded static lib.  Plus, it 
will cut down on the size of the binaries since that static lib contains 
duplicate code already contained in the dll.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [PATCH]: Add flock syscall emulation

2003-11-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
cgf wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 02:51:10PM -0500, Nicholas Wourms wrote:

And, the employee was...?  Your reasoning may be correct but it isn't
possible to know for sure without details.
Chris,

Ooops, sorry about that!  I meant to fill it in after I finished and had 
a chance to look up his name, but I guess I forgot.  Anyhow, according 
the the spec's ChangeLog, the author is Nalin Dahyabhai nalin at rh 
com.  This name is also consistant with the RCSId that appears in the 
header comments of flock.c.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Bash wait indefinitely

2003-11-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
news.gmane.org wrote:

I'm running in concurrences 5 complex bash batch, and sometimes (2 times on
3) one or more (very rarely) batch stop to do something. I've put a lot of
trace to see where is the problem, but seems rarely arrived at the same line
of code.
I've also tried to use strace tool, but strace hang rapidly.

For the last few weeks I've been experiencing the same, and the 
offenders always seem to be either bash (not ash) or make.  It is 
important to note that I track cygwin's CVS head, so I had chalked it up 
to the on-going signal work.  I've found that running deep `make`s or 
running the autotools in succession (such as in the case of triggering 
the AM_MAINTAINER_MODE routines) often triggers this problem for me on 
my Dual Athlon MP 2400+ Win2K box :-(.  I've been extremely busy working 
on other things, I just grumble, kill the deadlocked process and its 
children, then restart the parent.  Attempting to debug gdb/strace, as 
you've discovered, is quite fruitless.

Cheers,
Nicholas


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[PATCH]: Add flock syscall emulation

2003-11-27 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Hi All,

Here is a patch to add the flock() syscall to Cygwin.  I've noticed that some
of our mailer apps are using this syscall and have encountered a number of
other apps which do as well.  In most cases, they will provide an emulation of
flock using fcntl() in the case that  flock() is absent from the system's libc.
I've also noticed that some Linux distributions, Red Hat in particular, do not
trust the Linux kernel's implementation of flock and thus prefer to emulate it
in a similar manner.

Rather then duplicate the numerous varieties of emulated flock out there, I
decided to port this particular version of flock emulation from a patch
written by a Red Hat employee for use in Red Hat's IMAPd RPM.  I tried
contacting the individual listed in the spec's ChangeLog, but got no response.
IANAL, but since there was no notice of copyright at the top of the file and
since this code was created for Red Hat by a Red Hat employee, I'm assuming
that Red Hat owns the rights to this code?  This is based on the assumption
that Red Hat employees sign a similar copyright assignment to the one that we
do.  If this isn't so, please let me know and I'll go back to the drawing board.

So, I tweaked the code and formatting for use by Cygwin and have updated the
sys/file.h header to support the operations provided by this syscall.  I based
that off of the header from FreeBSD, which also resulted in the other changes.
IMHO, I found that the comments and the way in which the alternative whence
values were defined in the BSD header seemed to add more clarity.  So if there
are no objections, I thought I'd add those changes as well.

Also, I added an underscore symbol in the case that some program was looking
for the BSD syscall.  It was mostly done as an after-thought, so feel free to
dump that if you are inclined to do so.

Lastly, for testing purposes, you can build the flock source as an executable.
This is just a very small test to prove basic flock() functionality.  I've
tested successfully using some of the tests in the LTP.  Also, I've been
running programs using this implementation for months now, with no adverse
side-effects.

As a side note, I noticed that sys/file.h was from DJGPP.  Will DJ allow us to
use code from DJGPP in Newlib/Cygwin?  If so, I noticed some code in the DJGPP
libc which I could port and use in future contributions.

Cheers,
Nicholas2003-11-27  Nicholas Wourms  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Makefile.in: (DLL_OFILES): Add flock.o.
* cygwin.din: Export flock  _flock.
* flock.c: New file.
* include/sys/file.h: Include sys/cdefs.h.
Add function prototype for flock().
Add some comments from BSD's header for further clarity.
(L_SET, L_CURR, L_INCR, L_XTND): Redefine as the macros
SEEK_SET, SEEK_CUR, SEEK_CUR,  SEEK_END respectively.
(LOCK_SH,LOCK_EX,LOCK_NB,LOCK_UN): New macros for flock().
* include/cygwin/version.h: Bump API minor number.
Index: Makefile.in
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/src/winsup/cygwin/Makefile.in,v
retrieving revision 1.143
diff -u -3 -p -r1.143 Makefile.in
--- Makefile.in 27 Oct 2003 13:06:56 -  1.143
+++ Makefile.in 27 Nov 2003 18:42:44 -
@@ -126,8 +126,8 @@ DLL_OFILES:=assert.o autoload.o bsdlib.o
fhandler_random.o fhandler_raw.o fhandler_registry.o fhandler_serial.o \
fhandler_socket.o fhandler_tape.o fhandler_termios.o \
fhandler_tty.o fhandler_virtual.o fhandler_windows.o \
-   fhandler_zero.o fnmatch.o fork.o getopt.o glob.o grp.o heap.o init.o \
-   ioctl.o ipc.o iruserok.o localtime.o malloc_wrapper.o miscfuncs.o \
+   fhandler_zero.o flock.o fnmatch.o fork.o getopt.o glob.o grp.o heap.o \
+   init.o ioctl.o ipc.o iruserok.o localtime.o malloc_wrapper.o miscfuncs.o \
mmap.o msg.o net.o netdb.o ntea.o passwd.o path.o pinfo.o pipe.o \
poll.o pthread.o regcomp.o regerror.o regexec.o regfree.o registry.o \
resource.o scandir.o sched.o sec_acl.o sec_helper.o security.o \
Index: cygwin.din
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/src/winsup/cygwin/cygwin.din,v
retrieving revision 1.104
diff -u -3 -p -r1.104 cygwin.din
--- cygwin.din  19 Nov 2003 18:50:20 -  1.104
+++ cygwin.din  27 Nov 2003 18:32:19 -
@@ -504,6 +517,8 @@ finitef
 _finitef = finitef
 fiprintf
 _fiprintf = fiprintf
+flock
+_flock = flock
 floor
 _floor = floor
 floorf
Index: flock.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/src/winsup/cygwin/flock.c,v
retrieving revision 1.0
diff -u -3 -p -r1.0 flock.c
--- flock.c 1970-01-01 01:00:00.0 +0100
+++ flock.c 2003-11-27 13:22:48.0 -0500
@@ -0,0 +1,80 @@
+/* One of many ways to emulate flock() on top of real (good) POSIX locks.
+ *
+ * This flock() emulation is based upon source taken from the Red Hat
+ * implimentation used in their imap-2002d

Possible bug with __attribute__((alias)) in gcc-3.3

2003-11-23 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Hi All,

Gerrit and I were discussing this off-list, but I thought it appropriate 
that I move it to the main list since he has confirmed the problem.

Here's the problem, programs are segfaulting when the are linked to a 
symbol which was aliased using __attribute__((alias)) in a dll.  Here is 
a small testcase:

foo.c:
#include stdio.h
int __foo (void) {
   printf(foo\r\n);
   return 0;
}
int __attribute__ ((alias(__foo))) foo (void);
bar.c:
#include stdio.h
extern int foo (void);
int main (void) {
foo();
return 0;
}
Then compile as:
gcc -shared -o cygfoo.dll foo.c -Wl,--out-implib=libfoo.dll.a
gcc -o bar.exe bar.c -L. -lfoo
Then run:
./bar
Which should return:
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Running this same test, modifying the compiler args as needed, on Linux 
results in success.  Of course, Linux is ELF, so you really can't draw 
any strong conclusions from this exercise.

However, Danny's message to the gcc mailing list:
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2003-10/msg01281.html
seems to indicate that __attribute__((alias)) is supposed to work for 
32bit PE targets.  In fact, Danny's message is about a presumably 
unrelated MinGW problem with that same function attribute.  Gerrit 
says he's going to give the patch in that message a try (I'm low on 
space so I can't build a new toolchain) and see if it helps in any way.

What I'd like to know is if this function attribute is supposed to work 
on native cygwin targets?  If so, is there something wrong with how I'm 
going about it?  I can only speculate that the auto-import warning I get 
might have something do with it?  It doesn't seem like a situation where 
auto-import ought to be necessary, but I could be wrong.

In case people were curious, my thoughts were to setup faux weak-alias 
support for Cygwin by implementing the weak-alias macro glibc uses with 
this attribute.  The only difference being that there would be no 
__attribute__((weak)) and no LD_PRELOAD support, since neither are 
currently support for 32bit PE's.  However, it would paper over an 
aggravating problem caused by elf-centric software.  Software which 
insists on making global functions as weak references to underscored 
functions with other software expecting both symbols to be present in 
the shared library.  The nice part of this method is that it wouldn't 
require inserting nasty ifdefs or fiddling with def files, rather using 
a macro which is already present in the offending source.

Cheers,
Nicholas
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Re: [Review 2 - Good to go] gd: A graphics library for fast image creation

2003-11-19 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gareth == Gareth Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Hmm... just noticed that you have libgd2 and libgd2-devel... I was under
 the impression that you should stick the DLL version in the libgd
 package name, which you did, but I thought that the DLL version number
 was *not* included in the -devel package name.
 
 It seems to me that the devel package should be called:
 
 libgd-devel
 
 
 Anyone care to comment on this?

Gareth It would be nice to say that versioned devels are never necessary, but
Gareth unless the internals of the package are designed so as to be able to 
coexist
Gareth with future version devels (like libgd2 would be), there isn't any point
Gareth versioning them, and hence should not be so.
Volker,

I think the best way to determine this is whether or not the package 
installs versioned includes and static/import libs.  Also, the naming of 
the libraries  include dirs is important.  In the case of freetype, 
freetype-1 is libttf whereas freetype2 is libfreetype.  Even if it 
doesn't, it pays to check out the Mandrake/RedHat/Debian packages to see 
how they are doing it.  Sometimes it may be necessary to make a package 
have co-existing versions, especially in the case of databases where src 
API's can change, causing some existing sources not to compile/work. 
Also, it is pretty much a given that most GNOME libraries are going to 
need to be versioned.  The key is to plan ahead now, before you are 
stuck providing kludges or empty-package work-arounds.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: minires-0.95 - a new package ready for review

2003-11-19 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 01:23:05PM -0500, Pierre A. Humblet wrote:

Does linux use a recent bind adding underscores (grep res_query resolv.h)?


Yes.


Does OpenSSH's configure behave OK there? If so, why?


Apparently, on Linux the shared lib libresolve.so defines not only a
text symbol __res_query, it also defines something called a weak
symbol named res_query:
$ nm libresolv.so | grep res_query
6640 T __res_query
6880 T __res_querydomain
6640 W res_query
6880 W res_querydomain
While minres doesn't do the same:

$ nm /usr/lib/libresolv.dll.a | grep res_query
 T ___res_querydomain
 I __impres_querydomain
 T ___res_query
 I __impres_query
Does ld on Cygwin support weak symbols?  Or is it possible to
define __imp__res_query additionally to __impres_query?
No, the current pe bfd doesn't support the weak attribute.  I believe 
only elf targets support it at this time (maybe some aout as well?). 
However, the kludge I use to get around this is to just do this in the 
source file:

#define foo __foo
int
__foo {

}
Or you can use a typedef if your symbol is a struct or similar.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: minires-0.95 - a new package ready for review

2003-11-19 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Pierre Humblet wrote:

Nicholas Wourms wrote:
[snip]

However, the kludge I use to get around this is to just do this in the
source file:
#define foo __foo
int
__foo {

}
Or you can use a typedef if your symbol is a struct or similar.


I am not sure if this addresses the problem at hand.
There IS and include file with #define foo __foo
but configure runs in a problem when it calls foo() without including
said include file. Thus we would like to have both __foo and foo.
Noo, you have to do it in the library source file, not the header, 
that way the symbol is properly generated in the library dll.  This is 
quite similar to the way cygwin.din maps some symbols to underscore 
aliases (or visa-versa).

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: minires-0.95 - a new package ready for review

2003-11-19 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Pierre Humblet wrote:

Corinna Vinschen wrote:

[SNIP]

Btw, could cygwin use weak symbols instead of newsym?

I suspect this would take quite a bit of doing.  In addition to being 
aliases, weak symbols are also supposed to be weak.  That is, if 
locally controlled source redefines the symbol, that local symbol is 
supposed to override the global one.  I think this is really only used 
in situations such as LD_PRELOAD, where one library's functions are 
supposed to override the system's libraries without having to relink 
against that other lib.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: minires-0.95 - a new package ready for review

2003-11-19 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Pierre Humblet wrote:

Nicholas Wourms wrote:


I am not sure if this addresses the problem at hand.
There IS and include file with #define foo __foo
but configure runs in a problem when it calls foo() without including
said include file. Thus we would like to have both __foo and foo.
Noo, you have to do it in the library source file, not the header,
that way the symbol is properly generated in the library dll.  This is
quite similar to the way cygwin.din maps some symbols to underscore
aliases (or visa-versa).


Yep, but the bind people have already done it in the header.
(not sure why).
I could simply add #ifdef __CYGWIN__  to remove that feature.
But then I will loose binary compatibility between versions.
Is there a perfect solution?
Pierre,

Sorry for the noise, I was wrong.  I had a brainfart and forgot that ld 
doesn't actually export the #define'd symbols in sourcefiles to dlls.

Ironically, this will compile:

int __foo {
  printf(foo\r\n);
  return 0;
}
int foo __attribute__ ((alias(__foo));
and produce a dll exporting both `__foo` and `foo`.

Unfortunately, however, any exe compiled against it will auto-import 
_foo and segfault in crt0 when run :-(.  Oh well...

Cheers,
Nicholas


Kudos for Corinna!

2003-11-19 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Corinna,

I just pulled from cvs a few minutes ago, and I was suprised by what 
came down in the winsup dir.  If it hasn't already been said, many 
thanks for what looks like a huge effort on your part to extend 
Cygserver's fuctionality.  It seems like it might be poised to replace 
cygipc.  Lemme send you 3 virtual beers for a job well done!  :-)

Cheers,
Nicholas
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Re: [Review 1 - No pass] gd: A graphics library for fast image creation

2003-11-13 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nicholas Wourms wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Volker,

I tried to build the package and got the following from the prep step:

aclocal: configure.ac: 46: macro `AM_ICONV' not found in library

I have updated all of my packages to the latest curr releases.  
Were you setting a non-default PKG_CONFIG_PATH before running the 
script? Here is what my env var has:

PKG_CONFIG_PATH=:/usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfig

Err... PKG_CONFIG_PATH probably has nothing to do with this.

In any case, please advise as to why the build script fails.


Harold,

That error implies aclocal is unable to locate the m4 macro package 
containing AM_ICONV.  In this instance it refers to a missing gettext 
m4 macro in the iconv.m4 file.  I haven't checked, but are there any 
other .m4's in the src pkg/patch besides {aclocal,acinclude}.m4?  If 
so, they may be in a subdir, which requires -I subdir be passed to 
aclocal (ex. if config/*.m4, `aclocal -I config`).

It is probably easier if you just install gettext-devel, which should 
install iconv.m4 into /usr/share/aclocal, which is automatically 
scanned by aclocal.  However, this file *should* be distributed with 
the sources, which is why the earlier procedure is preferred (since 
the macros change between gettext releases, bogus or unexpected 
results can happen during configure if a newer macro is used for a 
package gettextized with an older gettext).

Cheers,
Nicholas

 Did you mean to send this to cygwin-apps?  It should probably be
 public.
Oops, yes.  Anyhow, I've come up with a solution so that you don't have 
to have gettext-devel by adding the macros to acinclude.m4 (since they 
aren't included individually).  I'm preparing to send Volker an update 
as we speak.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [ITP] tzcode: The time zone package

2003-11-10 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi

I would like to contribute and maintain the timezone package:

 * http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm

a public-domain time zone database which contains code and data that
represent the history of local time for many representative locations
around the globe. This package contains the zic time zone compiler,
the zdump timezone dump routine, and various timezone library routines.
These functions deal with variations in the time zone rules in the world. 

Actually, cygwin uses most of the library code from the package directly 
in the dll.  So, instead of making a new library, perhaps updating the 
existing cygwin source files would be the way to go?  I'd even go as far 
to say that the timezone utils (which are very small) ought to also be 
in the utils distributed with the cygwin dll since this is how it is 
done with glibc.  The tzdata, however, could remain a separate package.

Whatever the decision, I think this would make a fine addition.  I vote yes.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Please update links, mod_php4, mod_ssl, wget (was: [mark@openssl.org: [OpenSSL Advisory] Denial of Service in ASN.1 parsing])

2003-11-05 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 02:40:20PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

May I again ask the package maintainers of packages, which still
use openssl-0.9.6, to update their packages to use openssl-0.9.7?
These packages are
- linksSami Tikka

- mod_php4 Stipe Tolj
- mod_ss   Stipe Tolj
^^^

- wget Hack Kampbjorn


If we don't get a response within a week, then, IMO, maintainership of
these packages is up for grabs.
Any objections to this?
Umm...  Stipe's already responded to cygwin-apps regarding these two. 
He said that new versions would be ready for upload soon.  I should 
think that's sufficient enough response?

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: your Cygwin packages need to be updated

2003-11-04 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Daniel Reed wrote:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-11/msg00068.html

* From: Corinna Vinschen vinschen at redhat dot com
* To: cygwin-apps at cygwin dot com
* Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:40:20 +0100
* Subject: Please update links, mod_php4, mod_ssl, wget (was: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
[OpenSSL Advisory] Denial of Service in ASN.1 parsing])
May I again ask the package maintainers of packages, which still
use openssl-0.9.6, to update their packages to use openssl-0.9.7?
These packages are
- links Sami Tikka
- mod_php4  Stipe Tolj
- mod_ssStipe Tolj
- wget  Hack Kampbjorn


Stipe,

Are you going to update to the newer version of apache-1.3?  I also 
noticed that more things can be #defined since a good deal of new 
functionality has been added to the dll.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Should --sysconfdir=/etc/defaults/etc/?

2003-10-30 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 08:43:31AM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:

Current packaging instructions at http://cygwin.com/setup.html#package_contents
indicate that --sysconfdir should be set to /etc.  Should this perhaps be
changed to /etc/defaults/etc, with the subsequent instruction that if your
package actually has anything in sysconfdir, it should conditionally copy it to
/etc if it doesn't already exist with a postinstall script[1]?


No.  If you set --sysconfdir to something else than /etc, a big bunch
of packages will search their config files in the wrong directory.
Keep in mind, that the sysconfdir setting might get hardcoded into
a tool on compile time.
Better create a package script which moves the files from /etc to
/etc/defaults/etc after calling `make install DESTDIR=...'.  Or even
do it by hand.
RedHat does `make install DESTDIR=.. sysconfdir=..` for packages 
where they want the target sysconfdir be something other then the 
default set at compile time.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Updated: lesstif-0.93.91-4

2003-10-30 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Harold L Hunt II wrote:
Noted.  I am not sure that I can do anything about that.  Doesn't seem 
like it would be worth looking into at the moment.  I would gladly 
accept a tip or patch from anyone.

I don't know how, but I think this is my fault.  I modified the install 
script to bzip the manpages, but that should happen *after* the make 
install portion.

And, yes, I did turn on fontconfig support, and I'm not the least bit 
ashamed to admit it.  It was badly needed IMNSHO.  For those who want to 
know, here's a real easy way to make sure your apps get built right:

CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS=`pkg-config --cflags xft`
LDFLAGS=`pkg-config --libs xft`
But most libtool apps will get the depends right anyhow.

If someone *really* wanted to get artsy-craftsy, they could make a 
package-config file for lesstif, which would ensure all the correct libs 
were used.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Add PAGE_SIZE, PAGE_SHIFT, PAGE_MASK to sys/param.h

2003-10-29 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[SNIP]
2003-10-28  Nicholas Wourms  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   * include/sys/param.h: Define some page counting macros.
   (PAGE_SHIFT): Define.
   (PAGE_SIZE): Define.
   (PAGE_MASK): Define.
   Tidy tab/whitespace formatting from last patch.


Sorry, but I have several problems with this patch:

- The formatting of the ChangeLog entry (no TABS).
That proves my later concerns, as I did put TABS in the ChangeLog entry. 
 Unfortunately, this was a bug in Mozilla about the time NS-7.1 was 
released against that code base (Those on the LKML will recall the 
problems ppl had with Mozilla stripping tabs).  See my later comments on 
this.

- The ChangeLog and your above description are missing the fact, that
  you also added a NBPW definition.
D'oh, sorry I forgot about that one.

- The definition of PAGE_MASK is... a problem.  Your definition is the
  BSD definition (PAGE_SIZE-1), while Linux defines it as the negation
  thereof, (~(PAGE_SIZE-1)).  I don't know what way to follow here.
  I guess it's all one, considering that we don't use it in Cygwin so
  far.  While we once decided that, if SUSv3 fails to lend us a hand,
  we would try to map the Linux behaviour, the sys/param.h file is
  a header for mostly BSD definitions.
I know, but I couldn't find this defined like that in any other OS.  I 
felt guilty enough by casting the bitvector, I was worried about be 
accused of stealing GPL'ed code.  Thus I thought it better to stick 
with the BSD definition.  Interestingly enough, Wine's 
`memory/virtual.c' has `PAGE_SHIFT' defined to `12' and PAGE_MASK 
defined to 0xfff or 4095 (4096-1).  log2(4096) gives a float answer of 
12.  Also Doug Lea's malloc defines PAGE_MASK as (PAGE_SIZE-1) and then 
negates it where necessary.  OTOH, I found that dlltool from 
binutils-2.7 used to define it as a negation.  Since you are more of an 
expert on mmap then I, I'll leave it others to decide.  If you want to 
leave it out for now, that would be ok, too.  Primarily, I was after 
PAGE_SHIFT  PAGE_SIZE but decided to add PAGE_MASK since it was 
clustered with the others in all the headers I looked at.

- Neither BSD nor Linux define these highly machine dependent values
  in sys/param.h.  What about adding a asm/param.h file and include
  that in sys/param.h?
I wasn't sure what to do, so if you think asm/param.h is better, that 
will be fine.  Of course bsd/linux has it in a machine dependent asm 
dirs, so now that I think about it that would make sense.

- Don't attach gzipped patches, please.  Mozilla doesn't scramble
  text attachments, AFAIK.
Unfortunately, as stated previously, it seems that NS-7.1 does.  I have 
to use this to read my netscape mail if I don't want to use the web 
interface.  However, I'll resend the patch with your suggested 
improvements using pine to see if that works.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Add PAGE_SIZE, PAGE_SHIFT, PAGE_MASK to sys/param.h

2003-10-28 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Hi,

I'm not sure how this would be taken... The only problem I see in doing 
this is if we ever decided to start supporting ia64/x86_64.  However, at 
that point we'd have to change a *ton* of other machine-dependant macros 
as well, so it seems like a rather trivial addition.  These macros seem 
to be fairly standard in both the linux and bsd worlds, so it would be 
very beneficial if we went ahead and defined them.  The reason I would 
like them is merely as a convienience factor in some socket work I'm 
doing.  I'm assuming that the windows default page shift, 12[*], will be 
an acceptable value that we can agree on?  This macro defines the base 
value upon which the aother macros calculate their values.  Based on 
that, I have attached a patch with those macros defined and some 
whitespace/tab cleanup cause by my last patch.  Because I'm not sure 
about my MUA, I've gzipped the patch to preserve formatting.

Cheers,
Nicholas
* This is the same value used by Linux/ia32, *BSD/ia32, Wine, and the 
Windows DDK in the cvs repo.
2003-10-28  Nicholas Wourms  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* include/sys/param.h: Define some page counting macros.
(PAGE_SHIFT): Define.
(PAGE_SIZE): Define.
(PAGE_MASK): Define.
Tidy tab/whitespace formatting from last patch.


cygwin-page-macros.patch.txt.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data


Re: Patch to generic-build-script for listing package files

2003-10-26 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 }
+list() {
+  (cd ${instdir}  \
+  find . -name * ! -type d | sed 's/\.\/\(.*\)/\1/' )
+}
 pkg() {
   (cd ${instdir}  \
   tar cvjf ${bin_pkg} * )
@@ -173,6 +177,7 @@
   check)   check ; STATUS=$? ;;
   clean)   clean ; STATUS=$? ;;
   install) install ; STATUS=$? ;;
+  list)list ; STATUS=$? ;;
   strip)   strip ; STATUS=$? ;;
   package) pkg ; STATUS=$? ;;
   pkg) pkg ; STATUS=$? ;;
What about find . -type f -o -type l?  This is what I use along with a 
 similar sed script.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Question about gcc-mingw package renaming

2003-10-22 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[SNIP]


See above.  I think that's an it depends.  If I was looking for gcc
and knew about mingw, I might expect to find a gcc-mingw package.
No argument here.  But along the same lines, mingw-zib should probably 
be changed to zlib-mingw.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: fltk-1.1.4-1: take 2

2003-10-18 Thread Nicholas Wourms
censored wrote:

SNIP
Nicolas wrote:

First off, you have /usr/share/doc/fltk  /usr/share/doc/fltk-1.1.4.


Done

Second, where are the include files? Building fltk apps will 
definitely need those.


yep, included now

Third, you can ditch /etc/postinstall since you aren't using a script.


Done

On the subject of shared libraries Nicholas wrote:

Not really, you could always cheat by using the --whole-archive method 
of converting a static archive into a dll.  i.e.: 


I used this method to add dlls and import libraries.

Nicholas also made some (optional) suggestions about an xpm -nox like 
lay-out in anticipation of a future parallel
xfree86 version. I think these are good suggestions, but for the time 
being I'd like to leave it in the current form.
I suppose this is ok, as long as we can negotiate renaming the exe's and 
relocating the include/libraries out of the deafult search dirs when the 
X11 port is to be included.  Looks good otherwise...

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Updated Berkeley DB to 4.1.25, please upload

2003-09-20 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo,

I have updated the Sleepycat Berkeley DB to the latest release which
is 4.1.25.  To continue what was started once, please put db4.1 in its
own subdirectory under release/db/db4.1/.
Thanks for doing this Gerrit.  Did you include the post-install scripts? 
(I don't want to eat up all your bandwidth just to check).

Cheers,
Nicholas


inetutils packaging problem

2003-09-19 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Corinna,

In the inetutils -25 package which just showed up on ftp, your tarball 
contains paths with .\ prefixes.  I suspect that your source 
argument for tar was a . instead of *.  Unfortunately setup doesn't 
handle this case right for cygwin-style bind mounts and ends up 
putting contents intended for /usr/{bin,lib} in C:\Cygwin\usr\{bin,lib} 
instead of properly mapping /usr/{bin,lib} to C:\Cygwin\{bin,lib}.

Cheers,
Nicholas
P.S. - I'll take a look at what Gerrit's got so far, but it should 
probably be ok.



Re: ncurses, call for assistance

2003-09-03 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Charles Wilson wrote:

Are you sure you didn't use .gz back then? ;-)
Try 
ftp://ftp.ics.kiev.ua/pub/mirror/sourceware.cygnus.com/pub/cygwin/contrib/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-1-src.tar.gz.
Igor
Three cheers for the Ukrainians!

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: [ITP] lftp

2003-08-23 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: 
Another *very* minor issue -- empty directories (etc/postinstall and
usr/lib/lftp/2.6.6).  They don't hurt, but I couldn't find the purpose
of usr/lib/lftp/2.6.6 anywhere in the documentation.
Igor,

That directory holds the various shared protocol modules which are 
dlopened as needed, should you build lftp that way.  In other words, it 
serves the same purpose as /usr/lib/apache does for httpd.  However, I'm 
assuming he built the lftp protocol modules static, thus leaving the 
module dir empty.

As a side note, it is possible to build lftp on Cygwin with shared 
protocol modules (I've done so myself).  However, it requires a lot of 
ugly hacking to the autotool stuff.  If the maintainer is interested, I 
can send him my modifications.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: a2ps compile problem against 1.5.2

2003-08-18 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 12:05:39PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 11:00:22AM -0500, Robert McNulty Junior wrote:

I had the same problem.
My solution was to get rid of -lm.\
This is not a solution.  It is a workaround.


Ok.  I see the problem.  I'm still puzzling over how to fix it.  I think
it is arguably a bug in ld but that's really not a big help to know.  I
have to fix it either way.
Perhaps a refresh of the latest binutils against 1.5.2 might be a good 
idea anyways.  Ditto for gcc.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Questions and a RFC [was Re: Assignment from Nicholas Wourms arrived]

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FYI,

your copyright assignment form has been received by Red Hat.  Patch away!

Any outstanding issues besides argz/envz?

Not yet, I've got a few things I'd like to contribute to newlib first.

However, I do have a few questions...

1)Did my MUA strip the tabs from the patch?  The only reason I ask is 
because I had formatted the code with tabs and now it looks like they 
were all converted to spaces.  [BTW, sorry about NBBY, I had been 
meaning to send a follow up since I realized that I forgot that I had it 
globally defined in another header :-(].

2)I assume that my assignment covers me for Newlib contributions?

3)I'm still trying to figure out how to use lstat in newlib source code, 
 since apparently the function declaration is hidden when building 
newlib/cygwin.  So far, any attempt to use it results in undefined 
references to _lstat when linking the dll.  I tried adding a definition 
to _syslist.h, but that didn't work.  I hate to sound clueless, but if 
someone could nudge me toward the right header or magic, that would be 
great.

4)Corinna, I've been working on porting some of the missing 
SUSv3/c99/bsd functions from the *bsd libc.  I noticed that the libutil 
which you distribute with inetutils contains some of the functions I 
thought belonged in libc, or at least the headers of newlib would have 
me believe this.  Specifically, I was wanted to work on adding instances of:
endusershell()
setusershell()
getusershell()
ruserok()
iruserok()

Why would I want to do this you ask?  Well some of the specific 
implementations of the other code I'm tying to port use these functions. 
 I suppose I could just use internal, static versions, but these 
functions really ought to be reusable and in sync with the global 
header.  Do you have any objections to this, provided you find my code 
sound?

5)This is meant as a general RFC based on something I noticed while 
researching the freebsd libc.

What would people think about adding another member to the FILE 
structure which would allow for future additions without 
incompatibilities?  I noticed that freebsd has addressed their growing 
FILE ABI by using adding a new member struct, *_extra, to allow for 
additional members without causing incompatibilities.  As I was working 
on porting fwide(), I ran across this feature in freebsd.  Here's how 
it's done:

In the public header, stdio.h:
--
struct __sFILEX;
...
typedef struct __sFILE {
...
   int (*_write)(void *, const char *, int);
   /* separate buffer for long sequences of ungetc() */
   struct  __sbuf _ub; /*ungetc buffer */
   struct __sFILEX *_extra; /*additions to FILE to not break ABI*/

   int _ur;/*saved _r when _r is counting ungetc*/
...
};
--
Then from private header, local.h, located in the stdio/ dir:
-
struct __sFILEX {
   unsigned char   *_up; /*saved _p when _p is doing ungetc data*/
   pthread_mutex_t fl_mutex;   /* used for MT-safety */
   pthread_t   fl_owner;   /* current owner */
   int fl_count;   /* recursive lock count */
   int orientation;/* orientation for fwide() */
#ifdef notdef
   /*
* XXX These are not used yet -- they will be used to store the
* multibyte conversion state for writing and reading when
* stateful encodings are supported by the locale framework.
*/
   mbstate_t   wstate; /* write conversion state */
   mbstate_t   rstate; /* read conversion state */
#endif
};
-
Planning ahead for future possibilities is always a good thing, so in 
that respect this seems like a sound idea.  Since we are already dealing 
with ABI breakage, I thought I'd float this now to see what people 
think.  Would a change like this be of benefit to Cygwin?

Cheers,
Nicholas


[PATCH]: Add some interoperability macros to sys/param.h

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Hi,

This patch adds 11 new macros to Cygwin's sys/param.h.  They include:

setbit(a,i)
clrbit(a,i)
isset(a,i)
isclr(a,i)
howmany(x, y)
rounddown(x, y)
roundup(x, y)
roundup2(x, y)
powerof2(x)
MIN(a,b)
MAX(a,b)
I find some to be very useful for many mundane routines (esp. MIN/MAX). 
 It should be noted that I chose to add all 11 of them (as opposed to 
just the ones I use) because this subset of macros seems to be common 
across all *bsd and linux distributions.  In doing so we improve our 
interoperability and make porting easier.  Although I peeked at the 
param.h header on my linux box to see if they were all defined, the 
macros I used were copied verbatim from the freebsd cvs 
src/sys/sys/param.h.  Furthermore, I didn't actually check the 
definition expression in the linux header, so I feel confident that I 
have violated no licenses.  I have an assignment pending, but I was 
hoping this change would be small enough to go in before then.

Cheers,
Nicholas
2003-08-07  Nicholas Wourms  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* include/sys/param.h (setbit): Add new bitmap related macro.
(clrbit): Likewise.
(isset): Likewise.
(isclr): Likewise.
(howmany): Add new counting/rounding macro.
(rounddown): Likewise.
(roundup): Likewise.
(roundup2): Likewise.
(powerof2): Likewise
(MIN): Add macro for calculating min.
(MAX): Add macro for calculating max.
Index: cygwin/include/sys/param.h
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/src/winsup/cygwin/include/sys/param.h,v
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -3 -p -r1.2 param.h
--- cygwin/include/sys/param.h  30 May 2003 08:39:02 -  1.2
+++ cygwin/include/sys/param.h  7 Aug 2003 17:03:14 -
@@ -53,4 +53,23 @@
 #define NULL0L
 #endif
 
+/* Bit map related macros. */
+#definesetbit(a,i) ((a)[(i)/NBBY] |= 1((i)%NBBY))
+#defineclrbit(a,i) ((a)[(i)/NBBY] = ~(1((i)%NBBY)))
+#defineisset(a,i)  ((a)[(i)/NBBY]  (1((i)%NBBY)))
+#defineisclr(a,i)  (((a)[(i)/NBBY]  (1((i)%NBBY))) == 0)
+
+/* Macros for counting and rounding. */
+#ifndef howmany
+#definehowmany(x, y)   (((x)+((y)-1))/(y))
+#endif
+#definerounddown(x, y) (((x)/(y))*(y))
+#defineroundup(x, y)   x)+((y)-1))/(y))*(y))  /* to any y */
+#defineroundup2(x, y)  (((x)+((y)-1))(~((y)-1))) /* if y is powers of two */
+#define powerof2(x)x)-1)(x))==0)
+
+/* Macros for min/max. */
+#defineMIN(a,b)(((a)(b))?(a):(b))
+#defineMAX(a,b)(((a)(b))?(a):(b))
+


Re: Questions and a RFC [was Re: Assignment from Nicholas Wourmsarrived]

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nicholas Wourms wrote:

Planning ahead for future possibilities is always a good thing, so in 
that respect this seems like a sound idea.  Since we are already 
dealing with ABI breakage, I thought I'd float this now to see what 
people think.  Would a change like this be of benefit to Cygwin?


Hell no.  I am irrevocably and unalterably opposed to implementing this 
change before 1.5.2 goes gold.

We've already had THREE ABI breakages in the last month.  Now, you want 
to add another one -- to avoid one in the future.

Here's an idea:  lets wait until the NEXT scheduled ABI breakage to do 
yours; then we'll get two for the price of one.

Right now, cygwin-1.5.x is overdue by several months.  It NEEDS to go 
out the door; we can continually add more ABI breakages forever and 
never release a new version...but that's rather silly IMO.
That's perfectly fine with me, you point is well made.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: perl -MCPAN -e shell crashes w98se

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Steve Coleman wrote:
Graham Lamont wrote:

perl -MCPAN -e shell

Anybody experience similar ?
 

I've been having problems with the latest version of Perl (5.8.0-3) 
while running/installing from CPAN on WinME. Using the previous version 
(5.6.1-2) seems to work fine for me when installing from CPAN. I'm not 
sure about what is causing your problems but mine were from dll's having 
errors, and 'rebaseall' did not seem to help any. I just reverted to the 
older version until someone can figure this out or a new version comes 
out with the 64 bit stuff. If I find the time I will try building perl 
myself and look into this further, unfortunately my WinME system is 
'remote' and one 'hang' means try again tomorrow

You can message me off line if there are any specific questions on this.
Steve,

You might want to give Gerrit's 5.8.1-RC4 a try, it *seems* to be 
working better then 5.8.0.  It still freezes when building some modules, 
but at least automake/autoheader/autoupdate work.  Also, it now seem to 
not freeze gdb anymore, so executing a perl command should allow you to 
trace.  However, wait until he announces the new version which has a few 
bug fixes.

Cheers,
Nicholas


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inittypes.h

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
I asked this off list, but I really should be asking it on list.  Posted 
here for the archives and if anyone cares to comment.

Cheers,
Nicholas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 07:44:43PM -0400, Nicholas Wourms wrote:

Corinna,

I can't really find any history on inttypes.h, but I noticed that you 
were the one who committed it to cvs.  I would like to know how you 
derived the values for the macros.  One of the widechar functions I've 
been working on uses the handy function, strtoimax...  so subsequently I 
did a port for it and the other inttypes it as well.  During this 
process, I noticed that there seems to be a disconnect between how 
you've defined some of the 32bit macros and how i386 glibc/mingw/bsd 
have defined them.  For example, looking at int32_t(PRId32):

The bsd's:   d
Glibc:   d
MingW:   d
Cygwin:  ld
Am I missing something here?  I searched the archives, w/o any luck. 
But before I submit an rfc to the main list (not to have it go in, just 
to get people to test), I need to know if the macros are accurate. 
Being that these functions are heavily asm dependant, I assume that 
winsup/cygwin is the most appropriate place to dump 'em?


I don't understand the problem.  ld is as correct as d for 32 bit
int types.  I didn't use any foreign source to create the macros but
only the description in SUSv3:
http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007904975/basedefs/inttypes.h.html


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Re: ftw()

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:37:53PM -0400, Samuel Thibault wrote:

Le lun 04 ao? 2003 20:05:45 GMT, Nicholas Wourms a tapot? sur son clavier :

That being said, My suggestion to Samuel would be to investigate the
FreeBSD cvs repo to see if they have implimented ftw() in their libc,
since they have a more free license and aren't GPL-infected.
It seems to be still worked on, and not available in their cvs :/


What is with the selective reading style in this thread?
Not caring, maybe I was cranky...

I saw that a referenced LGPL license is unacceptable for cygwin.

Gerrit responds with a pointer to a BSD licensed version.  Asks if
it is acceptable.
I say probably but you'd have to ask the newlib mailing list.

Nicholas responds eight hours after this interchange.  He opines that I
probably don't know about the Red Hat employees who run the glibc
project and offers that somebody should find a BSD licensed version of
ftw.
My point was that it wouldn't hurt to ask.  I'm well aware that you know 
who these people are.

Now, a day later, we find that Gerrit's email has again been ignored
and the Wourms plan is unworkable.
I saw his email, but that version looked more like a kludge then 
anything else.  When I mentioned FBSD, it was because their C99/SUSv3 
standards page indicated they had a working verion being developed. 
Obviously, this version is being worked on privately.  IMHO, the correct 
way to do it is the OBSD way, by making ftw a wrapper around fts. 
Although not currently a set standard in the scope of the SUSv3, fts was 
supposed to have been adopted.  Apparently, they can't come to any 
consensus @ the Austin group to get it ratified, so it seems to have 
been put in permanent limbo.  Since Gerrit suggested using OpenBSD in 
his follow up, I decided to go that route.  Anyhow, I've been working on 
it over the last couple of days, and I've almost got it compiling. 
There will still be some issues, since the BSD opendir2 implimentation 
is more robust, thus leaving some missing macros and structs which need 
to be worked around.  I'll post a patch later if people are curious or 
want to help out.  Currently, I'm stuck with an undefined reference to 
_lstat error, which makes very little sense since I have it defined in 
_syslist.h, but it still gives me the same undefined error when linking 
the dll.

I also have an update for my param.h patch, as I forgot to add the 
global definition for NBBY.

Cheers,
Nicholas


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Typo [guile-devel-1.6.4-11]: guile-config compile returns a bogusinclude directory

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Wourms
Hi Jan,

Just thought I'd alert you to the fact that `guile-config compile` 
returns a bogus include dir (it uses the dir you passed to mknetrel). 
While not an overt bug, this could cause trouble if, for example, a 
configure script tried to check to see if this dir actually existed.

Cheers,
Nicholas
P.S. - I've been meaning to ask, how about a Cygwin port of yodel?



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