RE: Can't make XWin on secondary monitor big enough...
If you run XWin --help, you get the following: use: X [:display] [option] [snip] -screen scr_num [width height [x y] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Enable screen scr_num and optionally specify a width and height and initial position for that screen. Additionally a monitor number can be specified to start the server on, at which point, all coordinates become relative to that monitor (Not for Windows NT4 and 95). Examples: -screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 2nd monitor offset 100,100 size 800x600 -screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 3rd monitor size 1024x768 -screen 0 @1 ; on 1st monitor using its full resolution (the default) BTW - I didn't say so in my OP, but I also tried XWin -screen 0 @1, which is suggested above, and that only got me a 1024x768 windowed XWin on the secondary monitor. -Tom From: Soong, SylokeJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: Can't make XWin on secondary monitor big enough... Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 17:01:23 -0400 Isn't the command somewhat like this? ... XWin -screen 0 1000 768 blah blah I have yet to reach to the point in the cygwin/x docs where it allows the command with options such as -screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Are we allowed to specify arguments of this option this way? (I'm not too prone to reading user docs/guides until I get into trouble). My actual command is XWin -screen 0 1900 1400 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars -clipboard -silent-dup-error I believe multiplemonitors option allows cyg/x to recognise the second monitor and to allow you to move your cyg/x window to the second monitor, which I always do. I needed the scrollbars option for reasons I cannot clearly recall. Without the option, I seem to recall I could not stretch cyg/x window to the extremities of my large second monitor without maximizing the window. == Somewhat Important Disclaimer. == This email, while purporting to be true, should not have its purporting to be true be in any way that you might construe as legally binding as super-glue. While it tries not to spread viruses like flu, it may inflame emotions as within a chimney flue. It may demolish opinions of whoever's who, and throw conventions down the loo. So if any phrase herein turns you blue, don't rush to your attorney Sue Donahue, to turn me into hot burning stew. Then I'll be as if some Barrymore Drew had turned into a cow that does not moo. Perhaps, the depressing feeling running through when seeing all the entrapped animals in a zoo. I could have been enjoying too a nice plate of Gay-Pan-Moo-Goo, but if and when you're offended ... perhaps, it was simply about nothing and much a-do. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:42 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Can't make XWin on secondary monitor big enough... I've got a Thinkpad with a 1024x768 LCD screen connected to a 21 CRT monitor which I've enabled as a secondary monitor at 1600x1200 resolution. I'd like to run XWin in windowed mode on the secondary monitor and take up the full resolution. However, try as I might, I can't make XWin any bigger than 1024x768 on the secondary monitor. Here are the obvious command-lines I've tried: XWin -screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This results in a 1024x768 windowed XWin on the secondary monitor XWin -screen 0 @2 -fullscreen This results in a 1024x768 fullscreen XWin on the primary monitor Any ideas? -Tom -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Can't make XWin on secondary monitor big enough...
I've got a Thinkpad with a 1024x768 LCD screen connected to a 21 CRT monitor which I've enabled as a secondary monitor at 1600x1200 resolution. I'd like to run XWin in windowed mode on the secondary monitor and take up the full resolution. However, try as I might, I can't make XWin any bigger than 1024x768 on the secondary monitor. Here are the obvious command-lines I've tried: XWin -screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This results in a 1024x768 windowed XWin on the secondary monitor XWin -screen 0 @2 -fullscreen This results in a 1024x768 fullscreen XWin on the primary monitor Any ideas? -Tom -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: How do I make DOS scripts to start X applications?
From: Scott Pieman at Chunderpot dot com Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 09:58:54 -0500 This has probably been asked and answere before - sorry - but could someone help me out? Once I've started X, I wish to have icons I can click on to start up X applications via commands I devise myself, for example, custom xterms or emacs windows on various nodes using ssh. I know the commands to do what I want, just need to know how to embed them in a DOS script that I can click on. (toolbar is not adequate to my needs.) Embedding in a DOS script seems the obvious way to make clickable icons to start X applications, maybe there is another. Could someone help me out? Thanks! Scott Ty installing the package X-start-menu-icons, which adds a bunch of pre-made shortcuts for commonly used X apps to your Windows Start menu. You should be able to look at the properties of the shortcuts to see how they work. I think you will find that in most cases, you don't even need a BAT file, but can simply specify everything you need in the Target field of the Windows shortcut. -Tom -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: xterm scrollbar
I think you want XTerm*rightScrollBar: True From: Rácz Miklós [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: xterm scrollbar Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:30:29 +0100 hi I use XTerm*scrollBar: on in my .Xdefaults file. The scroll bar is on the left side. Does anyone know how to put it to the right side ? thanks miklos -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
xmkmf resuling in bad search path for std includes?
I'm cross-posting this to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, and cygwin@cygwin.com because, although it appears to be X-related, the root cause may turn out not to be. Here's what's up... I'm attempting to build an X-client from source. I've done it many times before without a hitch, although the last time I did so was many, many months ago. In the meantime, I've regularly run setup.exe to keep my Cygwin install up-to-date. The process for building this X-client involves (1) running xmkmf -a, which creates the Makefile and implicitly runs make depend, and then (2) running make all to actually build the client. I'm running into trouble at the make depend point in the process. It's not finding a couple of include files. Here's an example message: makedepend: warning: x2x.c (reading /usr/include/sys/unistd.h, line 13): cannot find include file stddef.h not in /usr/X11R6/include/stddef.h not in /usr/local/lib/gcc-include/stddef.h not in /usr/include/stddef.h not in /usr/include/w32api/stddef.h not in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.3/include/stddef.h If I do find / -name stddef.h it returns the following: /lib/gcc/i686-pc-cygwin/3.4.4/include/stddef.h /lib/gcc/i686-pc-cygwin/3.4.4/install-tools/include/stddef.h As I see it, either xmkmf is setting up the wrong search path, or something is wrong with my gcc installation (since make depend is looking in 3.3.3/include but the files are located in 3.4.4/include). Attached is the result of running cygcheck. Advice on how to proceed would be appreciated. Thanks. cygcheck.out.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
xmkmf resuling in bad search path for std includes?
I'm cross-posting this to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, and cygwin@cygwin.com because, although it appears to be X-related, the root cause may turn out not to be. Here's what's up... I'm attempting to build an X-client from source. I've done it many times before without a hitch, although the last time I did so was many, many months ago. In the meantime, I've regularly run setup.exe to keep my Cygwin install up-to-date. The process for building this X-client involves (1) running xmkmf -a, which creates the Makefile and implicitly runs make depend, and then (2) running make all to actually build the client. I'm running into trouble at the make depend point in the process. It's not finding a couple of include files. Here's an example message: makedepend: warning: x2x.c (reading /usr/include/sys/unistd.h, line 13): cannot find include file stddef.h not in /usr/X11R6/include/stddef.h not in /usr/local/lib/gcc-include/stddef.h not in /usr/include/stddef.h not in /usr/include/w32api/stddef.h not in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.3/include/stddef.h If I do find / -name stddef.h it returns the following: /lib/gcc/i686-pc-cygwin/3.4.4/include/stddef.h /lib/gcc/i686-pc-cygwin/3.4.4/install-tools/include/stddef.h As I see it, either xmkmf is setting up the wrong search path, or something is wrong with my gcc installation (since make depend is looking in 3.3.3/include but the files are located in 3.4.4/include). Attached is the result of running cygcheck. Advice on how to proceed would be appreciated. Thanks. cygcheck.out.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Cygwin-Xfree 6.8.2.0-1 - Keyboard problem with Matlab 6.X
This thread from several years ago may be what you're looking for... http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html -Tom From: Mathieu OUDART Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Cygwin-Xfree 6.8.2.0-1 - Keyboard problem with Matlab 6.X Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:43:04 +0200 Hi all, I actually use Cygwin/X to display software from remote Unix servers. It really works fine except with matlab 6 : When I launch matlab, the main window appears on my local display but the keyboard seems inactive. (I cannot type anything inside the matlab's command window) Moreover, a left click is a paste (?), middle is also paste while the right click opens correctly the context menu. Maybe a problem with modifier keys. Try disabling numlock. bye ago Quite simple and it works .. thanks ! and if anyone knows how I could get a working numpad that would be great ! -- Mathieu OUDART
RE: Starting X on a second monitor - kludge that works
[snip] -screen [EMAIL PROTECTED] which means a window of size 800x600 on monitor 2 Seems to me it's logical if the behavior is such that -screen 0 $W $H opens on the primary monitor, while -screen 1 $W $H opens on the secondary monitor. X-clients with DISPLAY=:0.0 will open on the primary monitor while X-clients with DISPLAY=:0.1 will open on the secondary monitor. Isn't that how X behaves on dual-headed *nix machines?
RE: Reconnect to X session
Sounds like a candidate for xmove... ftp://ftp.cs.columbia.edu/pub/xmove/
Re: Reconnect to X session
From: Bobby McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Reconnect to X session Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:32:54 -0600 Thomas Chadwick wrote: Sounds like a candidate for xmove... ftp://ftp.cs.columbia.edu/pub/xmove/ Nothing there. Huh? I see the following when I visit that URL: FTP directory /pub/xmove/ at ftp.cs.columbia.edu WELCOME TO FTP.CS.COLUMBIA.EDU One Stop FTP Welcome anonymous! The department of Computer of Science mirrors many sites on a nightly basis with many major Internet software packages. A quick rundown includes: X11R[56], amd, gnu, emacs (and clones), Mosaic, Linux, RFCs, perl, rdist and whole lot more. The README file in this directory contains our current exhaustive list. We may use your ID and host location info to generate usage stats. We will make our results public from time to time. Your *transactions* are being logged at the request of several contributors who wish to maintain up-to-date records as to who has their software, so they can keep you up-to-date on changes, updates, and bug fixes as necessary. Simple perusal commands (cd, ls, etc) are *not* logged. If logging offends your, then please do not transfer from this site or close the connection now. Uploads are permissible to /incoming but only for temporary periods. The server classifies accesses. You are connection number 3 out of a permitted 30. If you have questions about this site, please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP *** VERY IMPORTANT NOTE ***ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP Most of the files in the archives directory are zipped, ZIP ZIP using GNU zip, and have a .gz (lowercase GZ) extension. ZIP ZIP Read the file /archives/README before you attempt toZIP ZIP complain that the files are corrupt, your ftp server ZIP ZIP is broken et al. Ignorance will not be tolerated! ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP_ZIP The name of this file is (~ftp)/.login.msg. Up to higher level directory 08/10/1997 12:00AM352 README 03/22/1997 12:00AM184,415 xmond.tar.gz 10/31/1995 12:00AM 79,989 xmove.01.eps 10/31/1995 12:00AM 99,371 xmove.02.eps 10/31/1995 12:00AM102,438 xmove.03.eps 10/31/1995 12:00AM100,008 xmove.04.eps 11/08/1996 12:00AM165,246 xmove.1.2h.tar.gz 11/14/1997 12:00AM639,187 xmove.2.0beta2.tar.gz 10/24/1995 12:00AM211,169 xmove.thesis.ps 02/09/1995 12:00AM202,296 xmove_performance_slides1.ps 02/09/1995 12:00AM 50,464 xmove_performance_slides2.ps
RE: Reconnect to X session
From: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Reconnect to X session Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:27:19 -0500 Sounds like a candidate for xmove... ftp://ftp.cs.columbia.edu/pub/xmove/ One more thing. Looks like this issue was discussed almost exactly 2 years ago in this very forum... http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-11/msg00289.html
RE: Caps lock and shifted symbols
Try turning off NumLock. -Tom
Re: Remote logon via XDMCP to Solaris and Linux
On Windows: startxin /usr/X11R6/bin/xhost remote_solaris_host rlogin remote_host setenv DISPLAY local_win_ip xtermamp; The problem is with the value you set DISPLAY to. You want to use the IP address associated with the far end of the VPN. Figuring out that value isn't always easy. Sometimes you can run who at the far end and it will tell you the hostname or IP address it thinks you're connecting from. Also, sometimes the VPN software itself will tell you the far-end IP address if you look at the detailed log as it's bringing up the VPN. _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: Remote logon via XDMCP to Solaris and Linux
One more thing on this subject... If you absolutely cannot figure out what your IP address is at the far-end of the VPN, then you might want to consider running dxpc. The original intent of dcpx was to compress the amount of data transferred between remote X-clients and a local X-server connected via a low-bandwidth connection. However, it has a feature which allows you to setup the connection if you only know the IP address of the machine your connecting to (and don't know the IP address of the machine you're connecting from, which is effectively the case here). I found a pretty good treatment of dcpx here: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=2374 _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
RE: Locked CTRL key in Matlab using
It works with numlock disabled :-) Is there a way to unmap NumLock as a modifier key? The following thread might be of interest... http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html -Tom _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
RE: Mac OS/X, Virtual PC 6, Oracle, and Cygwin/X - a tale
I read your email with great interest, and congratulate you on your perseverence and creativity in solving you VPN problem. However, something occurred to me that you might want to consider. I don't know a whole lot about Virtual PC, but if it really behaves as a stand-alone PC which co-exists on the same LAN as the Host PC (in this case the Mac), it should be entirely possible to set up a simple network route which routes TCP/IP traffic between the VPN endpoint (at the virtual PC side) over to the host Mac. This would allow you to run Apple's X server instead of using Cygwin/X. I'm willing to bet that VPN-VirtualPC(virtual route)-Max X-server is going to have better performance than VPN-VirtualPC(Cygwin/X). I think WinME and WinXP have routing built-in (called Internet Connection Sharing, or ICS). Other flavors of Windows can be setup to route using 3rd-party freeware. gt;From: Dr Robert Young lt;rcyoung_ta_aliconsultants_tod_comgt; gt;Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt;To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt;Subject: Mac OS/X, Virtual PC 6, Oracle, and Cygwin/X - a tale gt;Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:49:58 -0400 gt; gt;Well it is possible to get cygwin/X running on Virtual PC 6.1.1 gt;under Mac OS/X 10.3. There are some tricks (simply to make it work, gt;and to preserve your sanity..all Windows OSs are NOT created gt;equal), so please bear with me while I provide some quot;colorquot; to my gt;tale. gt; gt;Now, you may ask why anyone would want to get this combo working on gt;a Macintosh Powerbook G4 running OS/X 10.3.5? You can get X windows gt;for OS/X directly. gt; gt;However, the world is populated by Windows machines, and as a gt;database consultant, I have to access a multitude of client sites gt;quot;remotelyquot; since travel is not an option for a myriad of reasons. gt;That means you enter the world of VPNs, which are in heavy use gt;today, and getting more common by the minute. And the world of VPNs gt;is dominated by Windows software ( NOT the VPN that you get gt;w/Windows direct from Microsoft, but the proprietary ones like gt;Contivity, Cisco, Avaya, etc). Further VPN's do not quot;likequot; to be gt;installed on the same machine as other VPN's ( these things do not gt;quot;play wellquot; together), so if you are working with 3-4-5 customers gt;and all the associated VPN software is from different vendors...well gt;you can see the problem even if you don't toss in the point that I gt;wanted to use my Mac that I had already paid for with hard earned, gt;cold, unadulterated CASH. gt; gt;That was my original motivation for getting Virtual PC...so one gt;could use the Windows VPN software to access the client sites, by gt;defining quot;multiplequot; virtual PCs each with their own software gt;installed for a specific customer, and do it all from (1) gt;laptop. AND IT WORKS! gt; gt;The next issue came from Oracle Corporation ( remember I make a gt;living as a database consultant). On Unix (Sun, HP, AIX, Linux) the gt;Oracle installer is the quot;Universal Installerquot;...ie it is a java gt;based amp; X-based. Character based telnet installs are not a real gt;option anymore, much to the telecommuter's regret. gt; gt;That means I needed to come up with a means of running remote gt;X-apps, through the client's VPN under Windows, but (in my case gt;solely as a matter of personal preference) on a Macintosh OS/X gt;system. There is now a version of Virtual PC for Windows letting you gt;define multiple Win OS's on the same Intel platform ( I do, in fact, gt; have an older Compaq laptop ), but that means I have to by a newer gt;Intel based laptop with more disk amp; memory amp; the Win Virtual PC gt;software, and I didn't want to spend the $$$ there. gt; gt;Enough of the quot;tediousquot; background...but you do now have a good feel gt;for the situation gt; gt; gt;I looked at several commercial Windows X servers (since I had to use gt;Windows based VPNs) , and all would run under Virtual PC but in true gt;Murphy's form, each had its own quot;problemquot; with the Oracle Universal gt;Installer...fonts, missing buttons, etc. The glitches were well gt;documented around the various Oracle www sites, but no real good gt;solutions were available unless you could get a customer to change gt;their X client setup quot;just for youquot; ( not a point you really want to gt;ask a paying customer), upgrade their Oracle site-wide ( only a few gt;hundred thousand dollars for that one), or you could find V6 of the gt;'X' server software (which was now on V12..lotsa luck on that one). gt;Then I came across cygwin/X... gt; gt;Now I like free software in my business, it allows me to spend more gt;money on my hobbies. So I downloaded cygwin/X onto two different gt;Virtual PC setups...one is Windows 2000, the other is Windows 98SE. gt; gt;In the case of the basic cygwin, one has to increase the environment gt;space for storing PATH information, etc. Once that was done, cygwin gt;would come up under
RE: X/cygwin and Virtual PC 6
I know this doesn't directly answer your question, but have you considered partitioning your harddrive and dual-booting into a separate Windows 2000 install (instead of Virtual PC, at least for this one client)? _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
RE: setenv DISPLAY
So you're saying you're doing the setenv DISPLAY via the SSH terminal session between steps 2 and 3? I so, then you're completely circumventing the security provided by SSH (unless you're doing it intentionally, e.g. you're on a trusted network, or the encyption/decryption of the SSH tunnel is slowing things down too much). What you should be doing is using the X-Forwarding mechanism of SSH. Basically, it should go something like this: 1) Launch the Cygwin X-Server, Xwin. 2) From a local xterm, run ssh -X remote_host 3) Once you're logged in, echo back the value of DISPLAY on the remote host. It should look something like :8, or possibly remote_host:8. 4) At this point, running xterm should open a client window on the local X-Server. You do not need to, and should not, manually set the DISPLAY variable on the remote host when using ssh. I suspect that if you change your login script at the remote host such that it leaves DISPLAY alone, things will start working again. _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
RE: installing a window manager - help please
Have you found/read this? http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: Problems running xterms on AIX and the Oracle Univeral Installer
Turn off NumLock. From: Bent, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Problems running xterms on AIX and the Oracle Univeral Installer Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 17:05:12 -0500 Hello - I am newbie to cygwin and am having a few difficulties running X from a remote AIX 4.3.3 server. I am starting up the X server by running the startxwin.bat file. I am taking the default of run XWin -multiwindow -clipboard . I am using X11Forwarding so that my DISPLAY variable is set when I ssh to a server. When I run xterm on the box that I ssh to, the xterm does display back. However, I can't seem to be able to type anything inside the xterm. No characters ever show up inside the xterm. I can use cntrl-d to close the window. Can you suggest a way for me to correct this? I have experimented with the -fullscreen mode with the same results. Something else I am having problems with is when I run the Oracle Universal Installer on a remote system; my cursor basically disappears when my mouse has the focus on the oui. I am able click buttons, but I can't ever see where my cursor is. I currently have Hummingbird installed and it is working fine for displaying X back, but I would really prefer to use Cygwin. I do not have Hummingbird and Cygwin running at the same time. If anyone can help me with my issues, I would greatly appreciate it. Brian _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
RE: Mouse/keyboard emulation
Turn off NumLock. From: Mark Vovchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mouse/keyboard emulation Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:51:05 -0400 I have been trying to use Cygwin, at least in part, as an X server on top of a Windows install to be able to execute programs from a UNIX server and have them appear locally. The application I have been specifically attempting to do so with is Eclipse (motif for HP-UX). Just about every other application that I have run has been able to take keyboard and mouse input from the Windows machine with no problems. However, when I run Eclipse, the Java based GUI will launch after a short time, however it will be a dead screen with no ability to click, move focus or execute any commands. In this attempt, I also tried to display a full Xwindows (CDE on HP-UX 11.0) session. This did work once I was able to sort out the X font server issue I encountered initially. I was able to control the window when displaying the full X session. My boss was able to get it to work completely the way we wanted with another product, however that was a demo of software that is far to expensive for us to purchase. This is what I tried to do concerning displaying only the application remotely to my Windows desktop from the UNIX machine: I started Cygwin Typed startx and hit return in the Xterm I typed xhost +remote server name in the Xterm I typed xset +fp tcp/remote server name:7100 (the port the font server is listening on) in the Xterm I opened an ssh session by typing ssh -l username remote server name and then entered the password when prompted When logged in to the remote server I cd'd into the directory for eclipse and executed my script to launch it which consists of the path to the eclipse executable and these arguments: path/eclipse -vm /opt/java1.4/bin/java -vmargs -XdoCloseWithReadPending This would bring up the splash and the application would load, but as stated above, not open. I could open other X applications and have no such issues. Any assistance would be greatly helpful and valued. Thank you, Mark _ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.com/?page=features/mlbpgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/
Re: numlock
From: J S vervoom ta hotmail tod com Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: numlock Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:48:37 + Could this code be added into the XFree build? [snip] Not sure. That's a question for Harold, et. al. to answer. The options would be to (1) incorporate this code into the XWin codebase and activate it via a command-line switch, or (2) include it as a separate executable in the xorg-x11-bin package, and call it from the startxwin script. _ Check out MSN PC Safety Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp
Re: numlock
From: J S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: numlock
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:36:37 +
[snip]
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately our users' boxes are locked down
(they're on XP) so they wouldn't be able to edit that file. I was really
looking for a way to do this from the XFree startup script or configuration
anyway.
OK. You asked for it. Below is a short C program which will check the
state of the NumLock key and synthesize a keydown/keyup sequence of the
NumLock key if it's down. Works on my box, which is Win2K, but I'm led to
believe from the documentation that it should work with any 32-bit
implementation of windows.
To build it, copy-paste the following source into a file (e.g.
numlockoff.c) then run gcc on it (e.g. gcc -o numlockoff numlockoff.c).
Then add that to a convenient location on your client systems and add a call
to it in your X startup script.
#include stdio.h
#define _WIN32_WINNT 0x0500
#include windows.h
int main()
{
INPUT pInput[2];
if (GetKeyState(VK_NUMLOCK) == 1)
{
pInput[0].type = INPUT_KEYBOARD;
pInput[0].ki.wVk = VK_NUMLOCK;
pInput[0].ki.wScan = 0;
pInput[0].ki.dwFlags = 0; /* Nill for keydown */
pInput[0].ki.time= 0;
pInput[0].ki.dwExtraInfo = 0;
pInput[1].type = INPUT_KEYBOARD;
pInput[1].ki.wVk = VK_NUMLOCK;
pInput[1].ki.wScan = 0;
pInput[1].ki.dwFlags = KEYEVENTF_KEYUP;
pInput[1].ki.time= 0;
pInput[1].ki.dwExtraInfo = 0;
if (SendInput(2, pInput, sizeof(INPUT)) == 0)
{
fprintf(stderr, Error: SendInput failed. NumLock was not
turned off.\n);
}
}
}
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Re: numlock
I Googled for numlock off and the first page had several promising-sounding hits with instructions on how to force Windows to boot up with NumLock off regardless of how the BIOS is configured. The simplest solution (don't know which versions of Windows this will work with) was to add a line to c:\config.sys that looks like NUMLOCK=OFF). From: J S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: numlock Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:16:19 + Sorry to come back to this again, but I have a lot of user faults reported due to this problem. Our users' boxes boot up with the numlock key on so this causes some confusion when they are told they have to switch the numlock key off before starting XFree. Is there anything I can do to switch this numlock behaviour off without user interference? JS. _ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
RE: x2x 1.30-1 broken ?
From: Gael Gueguen gael-cygx ta no-log tod org Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: x2x 1.30-1 broken ? Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 10:06:30 +0200 (CEST) [snip] Am I the only one with this problem ? You are the only one who has reported this problem to this mailing list, but thast doesn't mean you're the only person who's encountered it. Admittedly, it has been awhile since x2x-1.30 was built. Perhaps I should submit a new binary package? I did notice just now that after recently upgrading my Cygwin environment, the x2x-1.30-src package fails to build, so something has changed. Guess I'll look into that, and once I get it re-built I'll submit a new pkg, and you can see if that fixes your problem. -Tom _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Problem with w32api/*.h
I'm having a problem building an app which #includes windows.h. It depends on some #defines which are inside a #if (_WIN32_WINNT = 0x0403 .. #endif clause. (to be specific, it needs the typedef for LPINPUT in winuser.h). My build environment is Windows 2000 SP4, and a quick test tells me that _WIN32_WINNT = 0x0400. Advice? -Tom _ Tax headache? MSN Money provides relief with tax tips, tools, IRS forms and more! http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/workshop/welcome.asp -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Convenient script for starting an XFree86 xterm
FYI - You might want to consider using /usr/X11R6/bin/run.exe (the DOS path being c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run) in place of the 1-liner VBScript. Makes things a wee bit cleaner, IMHO. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Convenient script for starting an XFree86 xterm Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:37:52 -0800 I've seen some other postings on this subject recently, so I'm submitting this contribution as a potential starting point for others. I have convenient Windows desktop shortcuts to start up a Cygwin/Bash shell window and an RXVT/Bash shell window. I was looking for something similar to start up a Cygwin/XFree86 xterm. Of course, I didn't want to generate multiple running copies of the 'XWin' server, nor did I want useless Command prompt windows hanging around. Here's what I came up with. I make no claim to generality, robustness, cleverness, originality or anything else. It just works for me. It consists of three parts: 1) A desktop shortcut with the following target: C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\WSCRIPT.EXE C:\cygwin\invisible.vbs C:\cygwin\XFree86xterm.bat 2) A VB shell script named 'C:\cygwin\invisible.vbs' containing the single line: CreateObject(Wscript.Shell).Run WScript.Arguments(0) , 0, False 3) A DOS shell script named 'C:\cygwin\XFree86xterm.bat' containing the following lines: --- @echo off ps -ef | grep /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin nul if ERRORLEVEL 1 ( start /DC:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin /B XWin -multiwindow -clipboard ) set DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\xterm -fn 10x20 -sl 1000 -sb -leftbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash --login -i --- Description: - The shortcut starts the Windows scripting language, which runs the simple Visual Basic script. - The VB script runs the DOS shell script without generating a Command window. - The DOS shell script - Starts 'XWin' with my preferred switches as a background process if no such process is already running, - Sets DISPLAY to the 'localhost:0.0', which the 'xterm' will inherit, and - Starts a login bash shell in an XFree86 xterm with some decent extra settings. john _ Get business advice and resources to improve your work life, from bCentral. http://special.msn.com/bcentral/loudclear.armx
RE: mouse wheel support question
Here's something easy to try. Bring up the X server, then run xev and move the scroll-wheel. Do you see any Button 4 or Button 5 messages? If so, then the server supports them. If not, it doesn't. From: Daren Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mouse wheel support question Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:44:50 -0500 I've implemented a feature for an application that uses the mouse wheel on the Windows. I need to code it for XWindows. From what I have read so far the wheel sends mouse button presses of 4 and 5 in Xwindows. I'm not sure if trying to test through Cygwin is not letting me detect the messages in XWindows or if there is another reason. I found that for XFree86 4.2 The mouse driver now has support for mouse wheel emulation. I tried xdyinfo | grep release to figure out which version of XFree86 I'm running... it returned vender release number : 4020 So do I need to update my Xfree86 version ? Thanks, dAren _ Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide. http://special.msn.com/home/firsthome.armx
RE: FD_SETSIZE and select
FWIW, I did a little plumbing regarding select and FD_SETSIZE when packaging x2x. The thread preceeding this post might be of some interest... http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07/msg00607.html From: Alexander Gottwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FD_SETSIZE and select Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 22:07:27 +0100 (MET) Hi, The Cygwin/X source uses the assumption that FD_SETSIZE == 256 in many places. I'm currently adding a -DFD_SETSIZE=256 to the build commandline but I'm not sure if this has any sideeffects. Is select() capable of handling other sizes than 64 which is set in sys/types.h? bye ago BTW: please keep the cc to cygwin-xfree since I'm only monitoring that list and I'd like the others there be informed too. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 _ Let the new MSN Premium Internet Software make the most of your high-speed experience. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-uspage=byoa/premST=1
Re: How to print to printer machine running X server?
From: Hr. Daniel Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to print to printer machine running X server? Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 16:12:08 +0100 (CET) On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Øyvind Harboe wrote: Is there a way to print to a printer on the machine where the X server runs? - I have CygWin + xfree86 on a Windows machine - On the Windows machine (which has printers connected), I start OpenOffice on a remote machine Linux box over ssh -X.. How do I print from OpenOffice running on the remote Linux box to the printer on the Windows machine where the X server is running? Printing isn't part of X, so there is no standard correct way of doing this. My setup: The Windows computer has its printers shared, accesible to the GNU/Linux (actually FreeBSD) machine. The GNU/Linux machine runs CUPS, and uses the samba transport to print to the Windows connected printers. They're named printer1 and printer2. When I log in on the GNU/Linux box from the Windows machine with XDMCP, I run a script which uses lpadmin -d to select default output for the lpr command. The script looks up the printer from a table using my DISPLAY setting. Not perfect, but transparent to end users. -- Daniel Note that this requires that the printer share on the Windows machine be visible to the remote computer, which may not always be the case. It might be possible to use ssh's -L command-line switch to forward the necessary port(s) over the ssh tunnel to make the local share visible to the remote machine. Something I've done in the past is print to a Postscript file on the remote machine, convert it to PDF using ps2pdf, transfer it to the local computer via FTP, and then use Adobe Acrobat Reader on the local machine to view/print the result. _ Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work and yourself. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx
Re: fonts too small on remote clients
Have you tried loading your .Xdefaults on the remote side before launching a client? e.g. xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: fonts too small on remote clients Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:20:36 -0500 I'm running Cygwin/XFree 4.3.0 under cygwin 1.5.5-1 (all the latest current versions of all packages as of this writing). I'm tunneling X over ssh to clients on a remote host (running Linux w/ XFree86 4.3). Whenever I start a client on the remote host, all of the fonts on my local display come out about 2 points too small. It makes the clients very hard to see. Local clients are displayed normally. Does anyone know what could cause this? I'm not running xfs. Here's the output of xset -q: $ xset -q Keyboard Control: auto repeat: onkey click percent: 0LED mask: 0002 auto repeat delay: 660repeat rate: 25 auto repeating keys: 00ffdbbf fadfffdffdff bell percent: 50bell pitch: 400bell duration: 100 Pointer Control: acceleration: 2/1threshold: 4 Screen Saver: prefer blanking: yesallow exposures: yes timeout: 600cycle: 600 Colors: default colormap: 0x20BlackPixel: 0WhitePixel: 16777215 Font Path: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X1 1/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ Bug Mode: compatibility mode is disabled Font cache: hi-mark (KB): 5120 low-mark (KB): 3840 balance (%): 70 I've tried putting the 100dpi fonts first on the font path (xset +fp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/), but it doesn't help. Any help appreciated. Andrew. _ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com
Re: a problem with X connection to HPC server-------local computer IP name
I don't use SSH or XDM, but nonetheless was intrigued by your question about running XDM via an SSH tunnel. After some poking around, it occurred to me that there might be a way to make this work by finding and editting the Xservers file on the XDM server. The process would go something like... 1) Launch XWin without the -query business. 2) Set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0 then run ssh -x xdmserver to bring up a tunnel into the XDM server. 3) Once connected, edit the XDM server's Xservers file and create a local entry for the display number handled by ssh. 4) Send a SIGHUP signal to XDM to tell it to re-read the Xservers file and start managing the virtual DISPLAY setup by ssh. The one thing I'm not sure abouit is what would happen to XDM after the SSH tunnel ended. Will it continuously loop trying to start an X session on the defunct DISPLAY? From: dh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: a problem with X connection to HPC server---local computer IP name Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:25:45 +0100 I am trying to connect to a SGI Onyx 300 server from an PC with Win ME and cygwin at home through typical Xwin.exe -ac -query remote_ws -from my local computer IP name but the remote login screen doesn't appear properly. It's just a blank window. I think my problem is really with local IP setting. I am not sure about my local IP. It is a 3 pcs LAN connectting to the internet through a router. My pc got a local IP: 192.168.0.3, whist 3pcs share one external IP(as gateway) provided by ISP. But neither of the IPs can work(openning DISPLAY). My problem is only with an XDMCP-query session. What I must do to access a machine with SSH and X -query in this case? Thanks in advance. Philip D. _ Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Re: (additional info) Can't start gnome-terminal, fatal error
A couple of thoughts... Have you verified that the remote host is actually running a font server? Take a look at /tmp/XWin.log for error messages pertaining to the font path. Try running a local xterm and entering xset fp+ remote font path instead of using the -fp command-line option. From: Jonathan Primeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (additional info) Can't start gnome-terminal, fatal error Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:10:15 -0400 I have more information related to my problem. I hope that this will make my problem more obvious... When I run gnome-terminal from a standard terminal I get: BEGIN OUTPUT ** (gnome-terminal:161): WARNING **: Cannot load font for XLFD '-bitstream-courier-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 (gnome-terminal:161): ZVT-WARNING **: Cannot get required fonts from monospace13 (gnome-terminal:161): ZVT-WARNING **: Use -*-*-*-*-*-*-13-*-*-*-*-*-*-* XLFD fontname - some characters may not appear correctly (gnome-terminal:161): ZVT-WARNING **: Use -*-*-*-*-*-*-0-*-*-*-*-*-*-* XLFD fontname - some characters may not appear correctly (gnome-terminal:161): ZVT-CRITICAL **: file zvti18n.c: line 831: assertion `new_fontset != NULL' failed (gnome-terminal:161): ZVT-WARNING **: Failed to load any required font, so crash will occur..check X11 font pathes and etc/pangox.alias file ** (gnome-terminal:161): WARNING **: Cannot load font for XLFD '-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 ** (gnome-terminal:161): WARNING **: Cannot load font for XLFD '-bitstream-courier-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 (gnome-terminal:161): ZVT-WARNING **: Cannot get required fonts from monospace10 (gnome-terminal:161): ZVT-WARNING **: Use -*-*-*-*-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-* XLFD fontname - some characters may not appear correctly (gnome-terminal:161): ZVT-WARNING **: Use -*-*-*-*-*-*-0-*-*-*-*-*-*-* XLFD fontname - some characters may not appear correctly (gnome-terminal:161): ZVT-CRITICAL **: file zvti18n.c: line 831: assertion `new_fontset != NULL' failed (gnome-terminal:161): ZVT-WARNING **: Failed to load any required font, so crash will occur..check X11 font pathes and etc/pangox.alias file ** (gnome_segv:162): WARNING **: Cannot load font for XLFD '-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 -- END OUTPUT I guess that the problem comes from the missing fonts, it says: Failed to load any required font, so crash will occur..check X11 font pathes and etc/pangox.alias file. Is there any way I can fix that? By the way, I use the -fp option for Xwin (Font server). Regards, Jonathan Primeau _ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com
Re: X in 8 bit mode - Perfomancetroubles
I think the best 8-bit performance will result if you downshift the Windows desktop to 256 colors and run XWin in windowed mode, which will allow it to use the DirectDraw engine. From: Harald Pollak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: X in 8 bit mode - Perfomancetroubles Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:48:32 +0200 Hy! Im using Cygwin XFree on a Acer Travelmate 634lci with Windows XP ( Color 32 bit ) my Application running on OpenVMS. I have to use 8 Bit Colormode for correct display. When i start X with the command: X -ac -fullscreen -depth 8 The display is ok, but the perfomane is unuseabel. When i use : X -ac -fullscreen -emulatepseudo Then the Applicationdisplay isn't working correct. Does anyone have a idea how I can use 8bit-colored Application with good performace on Cygwin Xwin I'm sure anybody outthere has an solution for my problem, so let me know. Thanks best regards Harry _ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
Re: Mississippi - Miiippi
Oh, OK. In that case, maybe rsh would be a useful alternative? Here's something I do all the time from the local host running the Cygwin Xserver: xhost remotehost rsh remotehost xterm -display localhost:0 You can even wrap it inside a shell script: #!/bin/sh rhost=$1 lhost=`hostname` xhost $rhost rsh $rhost xterm -display $lhost:0 If you save this as, say, rxterm, you'd call it with simply: rxterm remotehostname From: Dai Itasaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mississippi - Miiippi Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:30:32 -0700 I have no intention to secure the X connection. I use ssh simply because the remote guy doesn't have a telnet server running. Do I still need to use the -X option? ) By the way, you're using ssh all wrong. What you should really be doing is: ) ) 1) Invoke startxwin.sh ) 2) In the local xterm, verify that the value of DISPLAY is 127.0.0.1:0 ) (and set it to that if it is not) ) 3) ssh to the remote box using the -X flag to enable X-forwarding. ) 4) Once connected to the remote host, verify that the value of DISPLAY ) is something like remotehost:8. ) 5) Run your remote X-clients normally. _ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com
Re: xset add to font path kills Xserver
I have TrueType fonts working. In fact, they've worked for over a year since I first set them up, and I haven't had to do anything to keep them working since first setting it up. Unfortunately, it's been so long, I can't remember exactly what I went through to get it setup. All I can tell you is that it was a 2 or 3 step process and everything I need to know I found through Google. The only thing I do to add the TrueType fonts to my font path is with the following call (which has to be run AFTER XWin starts): xset fp+ /cygdrive/c/winnt/fonts I've got the following versions of the XFree packages installed... XFree86-base4.3.0-1 XFree86-bin 4.3.0-2 XFree86-etc 4.3.0-3 XFree86-f1004.2.0-3 XFree86-fenc4.2.0-3 XFree86-fnts4.2.0-3 XFree86-fscl4.2.0-3 XFree86-lib 4.3.0-1 XFree86-lib-compat 4.3.0-1 XFree86-man 4.3.0-1 XFree86-prog4.3.0-4 XFree86-ps 4.3.0-1 XFree86-startup-scripts 4.2.0-5 XFree86-xserv 4.3.0-9 From: Benn Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: xset add to font path kills Xserver Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:40:05 -0700 I just upgraded my system to the latest XFree (4.3.0-4, I believe). In my startxwin I had an xset fp+ to add the truetype fonts directory to the font path (which I never got working...perhaps this is a hint, but...) With the latest bits the Xserver core dumps shortly after the xset fp+ happens. So, two questions, which hopefully someone can easily answer: 1) Have you successfully added truetype fonts to your font path? If so, how?\ 2) Failing at 1), has anyone else observed this problem with 4.3.0-4? Thanks Benn _ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com
Re: startxwin.bat - how to use an .xinitrc file
Sounds like I've got my Cygwin/Xfree setup the way you'd like. You can do it, too, in 3 easy steps... 1) Edit the file .bash_profile in your home directory and make sure the X11R6/bin directory gets added to your path. e.g.: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin 2) Put your .xinitrc file in your home directory and edit it to your liking. 3) Create a Windows shortcut (on the Desktop, for instance) with the following target: C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run.exe /bin/bash.exe --login -c xinit -- -noreset -nodecoration The run part keeps bash from creating a dormant icon on the task bar. The --login part tells bash to read .bash_profile. The arguments after xinit -- get passed to XWin. That's all there is to it! From: Mike Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: startxwin.bat - how to use an .xinitrc file Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:24:33 -0500 I have several things that I like to have run when I start an xsession and normally I would put these into a ~/.xinitrc file to have them run at X startup time. However, when I run startxwin.bat it does not appear to execute the .xinitrc file automatically. Therefore I have had to manually edit the startxwin.bat file and add my custom stuff. Id like to find a way around editing startxwin.bat since after every xfree update I have to re-edit the file and re-add my custom lines. Am I missing something here? Is there a way to get startxwin.bat to automatically find $HOME/.xinitrc or would this be a good enhancement request? Thanks, Mike Campbell _ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [Fwd: Send loss of focus notification when changing focus to a Windowsapp?]
FWIW - If you run xev with XWin in -rootless or -multiwindow mode, when you leave the X client window and enter Windows territory, sometimes you get a LeaveNotify event, but sometimes you don't. It seems to depend on how fast the mouse is moving when you cross the border. I see in winwndproc.c (and winmultiwindowwndproc.c) that there is code to handle WM_MOUSELEAVE events. Seems to me this would be a good place to stick code that generates a LeaveNotify event in the X client. From: Jean-Claude Gervais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cygwin-XFree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Fwd: Send loss of focus notification when changing focus to a Windowsapp?] Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:23:33 -0400 Is it possible to tell X that it has lost focus when a Windows app gains focus? message3.txt _ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your existing Internet access and enjoy patented spam protection and more. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa
Re: right-click problem
Try turning off Num Lock and/or Caps Lock and see if that makes a difference. From: J S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: right-click problem Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:34:16 + Checked the archives but haven't had much luck so far. The application is something called EMC Symmetrix Console and it runs on Solaris. I have checked the problem on a Linux box as well and get the same as cygwin-xfree so presumably this is an XFree problem. However what I don't understand is why the right-click mouse menu pops up in Exceed (no special configuration has been done), but not in XFree. JS. You're gonna have to specify which application causes trouble and/or what type of operating system it is running on. I assume that this is a problem with a remote application since we have seen reports of this before. So, I guess you should search the mailing list archives as well. Harold J S wrote: Hi, I have an X-app which when I right click on some of the icons produces a menu in Exceed, but in XFree doesn't - however if I run any other apps where I need to right click the mouse to get a menu up, it does work. Could anyone suggest how I might fix this problem please? Thanks, JS. _ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile _ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband _ Express yourself with MSN Messenger 6.0 -- download now! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_general
Compiing XWin...
Ages ago I did some messing around with compiling XWin. I followed the steps in the Contributor's Guide, checking out the xc package from CVS and running make World. After that I was able to play with XWin itself, recompiling just that target from the xc/programs/Xservers directory (or something similar - don't know if I'm remembering it quite correctly). At the time, it occurred to me that if I installed the XFree86-lib and XFree86-prog packages via Cygwin Setup, it should be possible to get just the Xservers branch of the XFree86 source tree, run xmkmf to generate the Makefile, then build just XWin without having to download and build all of XFree86. But I never got around to re-trying it that way. I've recently been motivated to do some tinkering with XWin and before I set about the task of getting the source, compiling, etc., is there an obvious (or not-so-obvious) fallacy with my modified approach to building XWin? FYI - A full build of XFree86 takes hours on my ThinkPad w/ Pentium III @ 700MHz, 512MB RAM, and Win2k. _ Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Re: Compiing XWin...
Please ignore this message thread. My original post (copied below) somehow got lost in the ether of the 'net for about 12 hours. In the meantime, I sent another note on the same subject which went through nearly instantaneously. From: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Compiing XWin... Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:51:37 -0400 Ages ago I did some messing around with compiling XWin. I followed the steps in the Contributor's Guide, checking out the xc package from CVS and running make World. After that I was able to play with XWin itself, recompiling just that target from the xc/programs/Xservers directory (or something similar - don't know if I'm remembering it quite correctly). At the time, it occurred to me that if I installed the XFree86-lib and XFree86-prog packages via Cygwin Setup, it should be possible to get just the Xservers branch of the XFree86 source tree, run xmkmf to generate the Makefile, then build just XWin without having to download and build all of XFree86. But I never got around to re-trying it that way. I've recently been motivated to do some tinkering with XWin and before I set about the task of getting the source, compiling, etc., is there an obvious (or not-so-obvious) fallacy with my modified approach to building XWin? FYI - A full build of XFree86 takes hours on my ThinkPad w/ Pentium III @ 700MHz, 512MB RAM, and Win2k. _ Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es _ Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Building XWin.exe
I've recently been motivated to tinker a bit with compiling XWin.exe on my own. After reading through the Obtaining the Source Code and Native Compiling sections of the Contributor's Guide, I'm left with the following question ... Do I rally need to download and build all of XFree86? Can't I just download the Xservers branch of the source tree, run xmkmf -a to generate the Makefiles and dependencies, and then compile just the XWin target? [Note: I already know that for xmkmf to work I'll need the XFree86-lib and XFree86-prog packages, and perhaps 1 or 2 others.] _ Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Re: exec wmaker in /etc/xinit/xinitrc doesn't work
If you've never run wmaker before, you need to run /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker.inst to configure your account. If there's no wmaker.inst, then you don't have the WindowMaker package installed. It's one of the packages available in the Cygwin Setup program. From: cygwin-xfree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: exec wmaker in /etc/xinit/xinitrc doesn't work Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 23:33:14 -0400 Hi- I want to run WindowMaker rather than twm, so I edited /etc/xinit/xinitrc and replaced exec twm with exec wmaker then when I ran 'startx', WindowMaker started then immediately crashed. What am I missing here? Thanks for the help. _ Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: ssh/X with two hops
BTW - emacs works perfectly well over a terminal session. No need for X at all. You should be able to open a good-old MS-DOS prompt, telnet or ssh to your hearts content, then make sure TERM=vt100 on the remote system, then run emacs. From: Robert Mecklenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cygwin XFree Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ssh/X with two hops Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:44:11 -0600 I'm a newbie at ssh and would like some advice. I have a home pc (windows xp) and an office pc (windows xp) behind a firewall/gateway host (linux). I want to run X at home and display (on my home X server) an emacs running on my office pc. Here is my most recent attempt: I have cygwin sshd running on my office machine... 1. startxwin.sh at home 2. In an xterm run ssh -X -L 22:osaka:2200 gateway this allows my to login directly to my office machine but leaves an unnecessary login on the gateway. X port forwarding works in this login, but it is the wrong host. 3. In a new xterm run ssh -X localhost. Now I am logged onto my office machine and hopefully X ports are being forwarded, but no! 4. When I echo $DISPLAY on my office machine the variable is empty. I have, of course, tried many other permutations of this procedure, but this seems the closest to correct - but no joy. Another permutation I've tried is to ssh to the gateway and then ssh from the gateway to my office pc, but again the DISPLAY variable is not set even though I use -X. Any suggestions? Thanks! -- Robert _ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Re: request for new feature
From: java java [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: request for new feature Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 09:25:08 -0700 (PDT) What about Start-Run c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\xterm -display :0 cgf Thank you. This works, but an extra window pops up with title C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\xterm.exe Is is possible to get just the new xterm window to pop up and not the extra window? Could this be added as right click menu option on the tray? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Then give this a try... Start-Run c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -display :0 _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Need some help on running the server on cygwin, and clients on FreeBSD.
This thread might be of interest to you... http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-10/msg00091.html From: Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need some help on running the server on cygwin, and clients on FreeBSD. Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 22:24:05 -0500 Hello! I am trying to run the X server on my cygwin machine, and the clients on my FreeBSD 4.7 box. As of today, to start the session I need to: 1. type startx 2. type xhost + 192.168.0.18 3. right-click, exit. 4. open ssh session, set display to 192.168.0.1, and run startkde. I do believe that this is a very complicated steps to follow, and I would highly appreciate if someone could explain, how could I set up the system to follow all these steps automatically. A bit of the reference material I was trying to follow: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html http://www.xfree86.org/current/Xserver.1.html#sect6 http://www.xfree86.org/current/xdm.1.html http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html On both Cygwin (192.168.0.1) and FreeBSD (192.168.0.18) I use XFree86 4.2.0 (165). Thank you. Constantine. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Remote Session mouse problems
Most likely NumLock is on. Here's a google search of the cygwin ML archives for numlock, where you'll find plenty of discussion on why this causes problems. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=numlock+site%3Acygwin.combtnG=Google+Search From: Nikolai Lusan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Remote Session mouse problems Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 03:11:43 +1000 (EST) Hi, I am trying to use cygwin/xfree86 to run XDMCP sessions from my linux box. I am using the command XWin -fullscreen -emulate3buttons -from 192.168.1.11 -query 192.168.1.1 -fp tcp/192.168.1.1:7100 -nowinkill -unixkill The problem I have is that my mouse buttons do not work within xfree. I can move the mouse around the screen and successfully use the keyboard for input. This problem only arisies with my xdmcp sessions, local sessions are fine. I am using win98se with a 2 button ps2 mouse. Does anybody have an idea what could cause this. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: script for remote window?
The following post I made some time ago might be helpful... http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-10/msg00091.html From: Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: script for remote window? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:43:33 -0600 The new -multiwindow mode looks really promising for occasional access to unix GUI programs from a windows box. Is there any way to completely hide the process of connecting in a batch file or bash script that can be attached to a windows desktop icon? That is, it should start xwin (only) if it isn't already running, The then ssh the appropriate command to a remote host with X forwarding. If ssh keys are in place the window should just appear without much indication that it is remote, otherwise it would have to stop for the ssh password prompt. How can such a script tell at the batch or bash level if xwin is already running? --- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: script for remote window?
As for figuring out whether or not XWin is already running, it's as easy as ps -ef | grep XWin. For instance, the following scriplet will tell you whether XWin is running... if [ `ps -ef | grep XWin` == ] then echo XWin is not running. else echo XWin is running. fi From: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: script for remote window? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 15:52:58 -0500 The following post I made some time ago might be helpful... http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-10/msg00091.html From: Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: script for remote window? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:43:33 -0600 The new -multiwindow mode looks really promising for occasional access to unix GUI programs from a windows box. Is there any way to completely hide the process of connecting in a batch file or bash script that can be attached to a windows desktop icon? That is, it should start xwin (only) if it isn't already running, The then ssh the appropriate command to a remote host with X forwarding. If ssh keys are in place the window should just appear without much indication that it is remote, otherwise it would have to stop for the ssh password prompt. How can such a script tell at the batch or bash level if xwin is already running? --- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: laptop performace
Back in January I noticed the performance of Cygwin, and Cygwin/Xfree86 in particular, went down the tubes. I posted to the general cygwin mailing list since all things cygwin were affected. Here's a link to the root of the thread. You can follow it to conclusion by hitting the Thread Next link. http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-01/msg00353.html From: Thor Anders Aarhaug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: laptop performace Date: 28 Feb 2003 13:42:03 +0100 hi, just installed 1.3.20-1 on one laptop and one stationary. full install on both, no modifications. I experience a slow performance on the laptop, FS Lifebook E 2.2 GHz with a Ati Radeon Mobility 7500. for instance, emacs hardly starts (unless i put it in the startxwin.bat) and the screen updates are slow. I tried messing with the -depth and -refresh parameters to no avail. my Dell Optiplex 1.8 GHz shows a completely different behaviour. I was looking for hardware drivers, but could not find any. suggestions? TAA _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: numlock
Just had a thought. Make sure NumLock is OFF when you run the 'xmodmap -e
clear mod2' command. Otherwise, it will get stuck in the ON state.
Also, run xev and hit a keypad key other than NumLock. If you've properly
cleared NumLock from the keypad, all numeric keypad keypresses will have a
state of 0x0 whether NumLock (as indicated by the status light on the
keyboard itself) is ON or OFF. Normally you'd get a status of 0x0 when
NumLock is OFF and 0x10 when NumLock is ON.
From: J S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: numlock
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 09:23:34 +
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for your reply. I get the same as you if I run xmodmap -pm. Also if
I do: xmodmap -e clear mod2 that clears mod2, but on the XDM login screen
I still can't type any letters.
Here's the value of the NumLock key before clearing mod2:
KeyRelease event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x61,
root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 3663237, (570,393), root:(576,418),
state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 characters:
Here's the value after clearing mod2:
KeyRelease event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x61,
root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 3594839, (105,139), root:(111,164),
state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 characters:
The state value seems to be the same.
JS.
Actually, the instructions were mine, not Harold's (they were in response
to a note from Harold).
Try this...
Start X without the NumLock modification. In an xterm, run xmodmap -pm.
You should see something that resembles the following:
xmodmap: up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e)
lockCaps_Lock (0x42)
control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d)
mod1Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71)
mod2Num_Lock (0x4d)
mod3
mod4
mod5Scroll_Lock (0x4e)
If Num_Lock shows up next to something other than mod2, then you'll need
to change what comes after clear when you run xmodmap.
Alternatively, you might experiment with the following scriptlet which
tries to figure out which mod key is assigned to NumLock...
numlock=`xmodmap -pm | grep -i num_lock | awk '{print $1}'`
if [ $numlock != ]
then
xmodmap -e clear $numlock ${HOME}/.Xmodmap
fi
Of course, if your NumLock key was already assigned to mod2, then I'm not
sure what's going on. You might want to experiment with running xev. If
you've cleared NumLock from the keymap, then the value of state inside a
KeyPress/Release event resulting from pressing a key on the numeric keypad
should be 0x0 regardless of whether NumLock is on or off.
From: J S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: numlock Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:46:58 +
Is there a way to run XFree with the numlock key on without stopping the
keys from working? I followed the instructions from Harold's post at:
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html
but that solution didn't seem to work for me.
Thanks,
JS.
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Re: numlock
Actually, the instructions were mine, not Harold's (they were in response to
a note from Harold).
Try this...
Start X without the NumLock modification. In an xterm, run xmodmap -pm.
You should see something that resembles the following:
xmodmap: up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e)
lockCaps_Lock (0x42)
control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d)
mod1Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71)
mod2Num_Lock (0x4d)
mod3
mod4
mod5Scroll_Lock (0x4e)
If Num_Lock shows up next to something other than mod2, then you'll need
to change what comes after clear when you run xmodmap.
Alternatively, you might experiment with the following scriptlet which tries
to figure out which mod key is assigned to NumLock...
numlock=`xmodmap -pm | grep -i num_lock | awk '{print $1}'`
if [ $numlock != ]
then
xmodmap -e clear $numlock ${HOME}/.Xmodmap
fi
Of course, if your NumLock key was already assigned to mod2, then I'm not
sure what's going on. You might want to experiment with running xev. If
you've cleared NumLock from the keymap, then the value of state inside a
KeyPress/Release event resulting from pressing a key on the numeric keypad
should be 0x0 regardless of whether NumLock is on or off.
From: J S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: numlock Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:46:58 +
Is there a way to run XFree with the numlock key on without stopping the
keys from working? I followed the instructions from Harold's post at:
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html
but that solution didn't seem to work for me.
Thanks,
JS.
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Re: startx: Malformed file inquiry
What happens if you run xinit directly (instead of via startx)? For quite some time now I have been launching Cygwin/XFree86 via xinit without a hitch (no need to use startx IMHO). More info in the ML archives... http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-10/msg00091.html From: Shing-Fat Fred Ma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: startx: Malformed file inquiry Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:41:54 -0500 From: Alexander Gottwald To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:49:28 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: startx: Malformed file inquiry Reply-to: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Shing-Fat Fred Ma wrote: + xinit /home/Name/.xinitrc -- if: Malformed file inquiry. /home/Name/.xinitrc seems to be the problem. bye ago I first thought so too. But I get the exact same diagnostic text even if I run startx from /usr/X11R6/bin, upto and including + xinit /home/Name/.xinitrc -- So ~/.xinitrc is being sourced in both cases. And .xinitrc was just a copy of /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc. I added a line at the beginning to echo the path, but the never gets executed. So I don't think the error is caused by a problem with ~/.xinitrc (aside from the fact that the same the safe file gets sourced when I successfully run startx from /usr/X11R6/bin). I think it might be the xinit executable itself, since that's the only code that runs before .xinitrc. I presume that people have tried startx from their home directory and got it working? Just looking for a few responses as a sanity check. Thanks. Fred -- Fred Ma, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carleton University, Dept. of Electronics 1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario Canada, K1S 5B6 _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Adding/removing custom mirror URLs in setup.exe...
2 separate questions about customizing the list of mirror URLs in the cygwin setup.exe program: 1) When adding a custom URL, what is the correct syntax to describe the path to the cygwin pacakge directory? For instance, on an FTP accessible server I have a directory in my home directory called cygwin which contains setup.exe and setup.ini. Underneath that is the release directory which contains all of the packages. I can browse the directory hierarchy in IE with a URL that looks like ftp://username:password@hostname/cygwin;. I tried entering that URL in the approriate place in setup.exe, clicked Add, then selected it from the list and clicked Next, but then got a message saying is could not find setup.ini. 2) Once I've added a custom URL to the list of mirrors, how do I remove it? Thanks. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: 8 bit fullscreen still problematic
Have you tried dropping the Windows Desktop down to 256 colors and running XWin WITHOUT the -engine or -fullscreen flags? When all else fails, this usually works (but of couse has the undesireable effect of making your Windows programs look ugly). From: Staf Verhaegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 8 bit fullscreen still problematic Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 10:57:47 +0100 Hello, I still have problems with 8 bit of XFree86. I'm using the latest version available with setup. Also checked to see if there are conflicting cygwin.dlls and this is not the case. I'm running on an NT4 machine. I try to start XWin in fullscreen mode with a depth of 8. (Xwin -fullscreen -depth 8). With engine 1 the XWin crashes. With engine 2 and 4 is starts up but I only get a black and white display when doing XDMCP to RH7.2 with gdm or to HPUX10.20 with CDE. (screen grabs are available and I will post them on request, around 40KB in total). The problem is that cadence Virtuoso needs an 8 bit display. I tried running 24bit XWin with -emulatepseudo option but then the program still complains that it can't handle 24 planes. greets, ++-+ |Staf Verhaegen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) |ADRESS: IMEC vzw. - ASP/LITHO| |tel: 016/ 281 783 |Kapeldreef 75| |fax: 016/ 281 214 |3001 Leuven (Belgium)| ++-+ For every tool there are at least 2 uses: the one it was designed for and the other for which it wasn't. _ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Slowness when setting PS1 variable???
I recently ran Cygwin setup and installed lots of updates. However, ever since, I noticed that starting a new shell takes a relatively long time (we're talking 10 seconds or so between typing bash and getting a prompt - it might not sound like a lot, but try running make on something of moderate size and see how many times it starts a new shell in the process!!). I did some debugging, and the slowness seems to only occur when executing my .bashrc file. More specifically, it seems to block when it gets to this entry: # Set the prompt export PS1= `whoami`@`uname -n`:\$PWD $ If I take out the `whoami` and `uname -n` parts, the slowness goes away and bash starts up almost instantaneously. However, what baffles me is if I run either of these commands at the command-line (immediately after starting a shell), they return a result immediately. I guess my question is: why do `whoami` and `uname -n` take so stinking long to run when inside the PS1 assignment??? Below is the output of cygcheck -s... Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics Current System Time: Wed Jan 08 09:04:38 2003 Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Path: . C:\cygwin\home\tchadwic\bin C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin c:\WINNT\system32 c:\WINNT c:\WINNT\System32\Wbem c:\Utilities c:\Program Files\IBM\Trace Facility c:\Program Files\Personal Communications c:\Notes c:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\XCPCSync\TRANSL~1\LtNts4 C:\cygwin\bin C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32 WinDir: C:\WINNT HOME = `C:\cygwin\home\tchadwic' PWD = `/home/tchadwic' Use `-r' to scan registry c: hd NTFS 14998Mb 65% CP CS UN PA FC C_DRIVE d: hd NTFS 509Mb 98% CP CS UN PASWAP e: cd N/AN/A s: net NTFS 70312Mb 0% CP CSPAtchadwic . /cygdrive user binmode,cygdrive C:/cygwin / system binmode C:/cygwin/bin /usr/bin system binmode C:/cygwin/lib /usr/lib system binmode C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts system binmode . /cygdrive user binmode,cygdrive Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe 58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll 644k 2002/12/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll 380k 2002/07/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb-3.1.dll 487k 2002/07/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygdb_cxx-3.1.dll 45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll 35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll 19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll 490k 2002/09/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygguile-12.dll 488k 2002/07/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygguile-14.dll 63k 2002/07/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-1.dll 63k 2002/09/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-v-1-1.dll 24k 2002/07/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygguile-srfi-srfi-4-1.dll 24k 2002/09/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygguile-srfi-srfi-4-v-1-1.dll 14k 2002/07/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygguilereadline-14.dll 14k 2002/09/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygguilereadline-v-12-12.dll 17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll 20k 2002/10/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll 929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll 22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll 28k 2002/09/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll 21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll 45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll 119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll 59k 2002/09/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygkpathsea-3-3-7.dll 32k 2002/12/27 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll 26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll 20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll 156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll 175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll 226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll 202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll 15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll 12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll 40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll 39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll 175k 2002/07/22 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll 179k 2002/07/22 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng12.dll 170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll 22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll 108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll 127k 2002/10/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll 66k 2001/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygregex.dll 165k 2002/12/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll 550k 2002/12/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl83.dll 12k 2002/12/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip83.dll 253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll 217k 2002/12/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtix4183.dll 830k 2002/12/19 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk83.dll 41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll 46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll 50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll 880k 2002/12/25
RE: Slowness when setting PS1 variable???
Update. I've further observed that while running whoami at the command-line returns a result immediately, running it inside a pair of back-tics ` shows the blocking behavior. For instance, if I do this: $ whoami I get a result immediately. However, if I do this: $ echo `whoami` It takes a good 5-10 seconds to print a value and return the prompt. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Slowness when setting PS1 variable???
Do you run a CPU-soaking background program such as SETI@home, Folding@home (the protein folding experiment) or fightAIDS@home (the AIDS drug discovery program)? If so, you're seeing the result of the changes to how Cygin accesses pipes in 1.3.18. You hit the nail on the head!! I'm running SETI@Home. Killed the process, launched a new bash shell, and voila! The slowdown has magically disappeared! _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
nice command?
I got to playing around with Windows 2000 Task Manager the other day and discovered that you can change the priority of a running task. This led me to discover that you can specify the priority of a task when you launch it by way of the windows start command using one of the following options: LOW Start application in the IDLE priority class NORMAL Start application in the NORMAL priority class HIGHStart application in the HIGH priority class REALTIMEStart application in the REALTIME priority class ABOVENORMAL Start application in the ABOVENORMAL priority class BELOWNORMAL Start application in the BELOWNORMAL priority class WAITStart application and wait for it to terminate I then got to playing with nice (under Cygwin) to see what I could do about setting the priority of a Cygwin task. I used the following syntax and tried a number of values of x: nice -n x programname.exe I found that specify a value of x=0 results in NORMAL priority. For any value of x 0, I found I got a priority of LOW. For any value of x 0, I found I got a priority of HIGH. I tried man nice and info nice and got scant documentation. I'm just curious if this is the expected behavior of nice? Is my analysis correct, or are there other values of x that will get me the other Windows priorities? FWIW, there's a Cygwin task I'd like to launch with AboveNormal priority. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Can I Cross-Compile and x86 Linux Kernel under Cygwin?
I'm looking for a convenient place to cross-compile a Linux Kernel targetting an x86 platform. Is this something I can do under Cygwin, or am I asking for trouble? While I've compiled the Linux kernel before, I've never cross-compiled it on a different platform. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Failed to open input method
The Could not init font path ... error is in the FAQ: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-removing-font-path-element Don't know if the Xlib locale business is a side-effect of the font problem, or something else. From: J S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Failed to open input method Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:57:18 + Hi, Could anyone help me with this problem please? I keep getting the following messages after upgrading XFree86: $ xterm Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default Failed to open input method The Xwin.log says: winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff ff00 00ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 24 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = xfree86 Model = pc101 Layout = us Variant = (null) Options = (n ull) Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! I have the following entries in my .inputrc file in my home directory to enable UK keyboards: set meta-flag on set convert-meta off set output-meta on but the pound sign doesn't print anything now as well. I presume that's related to this problem. Thanks for any help JS. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: Failed to open input method
You know, after sending this reply I actually went and read the FAQ I was pointing you to. It looks to be quite out of date in that it refers to the Xinstall.sh script, which is not how XFree86 is installed any more. What you need to do is run the Cygwin Setup program, and on the 3rd screen, there is a pair of radio buttons under the label Default Text File Type. Make sure Unix is picked, not DOS. From: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Failed to open input method Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:44:35 -0500 The Could not init font path ... error is in the FAQ: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-removing-font-path-element Don't know if the Xlib locale business is a side-effect of the font problem, or something else. From: J S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Failed to open input method Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:57:18 + Hi, Could anyone help me with this problem please? I keep getting the following messages after upgrading XFree86: $ xterm Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default Failed to open input method The Xwin.log says: winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff ff00 00ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 24 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit - returning (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = xfree86 Model = pc101 Layout = us Variant = (null) Options = (n ull) Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! I have the following entries in my .inputrc file in my home directory to enable UK keyboards: set meta-flag on set convert-meta off set output-meta on but the pound sign doesn't print anything now as well. I presume that's related to this problem. Thanks for any help JS. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem
From: Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 04:28:39 -0500 Harold L Hunt II wrote: I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy. I mean, it works fine either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode. Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color. Correct. Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even when you are using one of the two options outlined above? That would be disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support and I was pretty certain that it was working properly. Hmm... Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly. It wants a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless you have support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same display. AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this. Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32. *But*, because Xwin32 supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not any other windows you might have open. In my case, if I'm using an Xserver in full screen mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other windows inside it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit colorflashing. OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native windows editors, etc. And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- so it's tolerable. As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection. --Chuck If you don't like the color flashing, perhaps you could mitigate it by running 2 instances of XWin on 2 different screen numbers? If you shift the Windows desktop into 8-bit color mode and run both instances of XWin in rootless mode, you'd hardly know that you were running 2 different servers (except you'll have to take care to get the DISPLAY variable set just right). Just my $0.02. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Setup's Choose a download source screen...
When I run the Cygwin setup program, the second screen titled Choose a
download source has 3 radio buttons. More often than not I select the one
labeled Install from Local Directory. Unfortunately, setup does not
remember that selection the next time I run it, always defaulting to
Install from Internet.
I suppose I could patch the file source.cc like so:
--- source.cc.orig 2002-11-20 11:20:08.0 -0500
+++ source.cc 2002-11-20 11:21:13.0 -0500
@@ -79,7 +79,7 @@
SourcePage::OnActivate ()
{
-source = IDC_SOURCE_NETINST;
+source = IDC_SOURCE_CWD;
load_dialog (GetHWND ());
// Check to see if any radio buttons are selected. If not, select a
default.
But it seems a better solution would be to have setup save whatever I last
picked in setup.ini or in the Windows Registry.
How hard would it be to implement this feature? I suppose given enough
guidance I could implement it myself and offer up a patch.
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Errors when building setup.exe
I downloaded the source for the Cygwin setup program (via setup), ran configure, and then make. All went smoothly until this: Making all in libgetopt++ make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/setup-0/libgetopt++' source='src/GetOption.cc' object='src/GetOption.lo' libtool=yes \ depfile='src/.deps/GetOption.Plo' tmpdepfile='src/.deps/GetOption.TPlo' \ depmode=gcc3 /bin/bash ./cfgaux/depcomp \ /bin/bash ./libtool --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I./include -I./include-g -O2 -c -o src/GetOption.lo `test -f 'src/GetOption.cc' || echo './'`src/GetOption.cc mkdir src/.libs g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I./include -I./include -g -O2 -c src/GetOption.cc -MT src/GetOption.lo -MD -MP -MF src/.deps/GetOption.TPlo -DPIC -o src/.libs/GetOption.o In file included from include/getopt++/GetOption.h:19, from src/GetOption.cc:19: include/getopt++/OptionSet.h:31: `ostream' was not declared in this scope include/getopt++/OptionSet.h:31: parse error before `)' token In file included from src/GetOption.cc:20: include/getopt++/Option.h:33: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `string' with no type include/getopt++/Option.h:33: `string' declared as a `virtual' field include/getopt++/Option.h:33: parse error before `const' include/getopt++/Option.h:35: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `string' with no type include/getopt++/Option.h:35: `string' declared as a `virtual' field include/getopt++/Option.h:35: declaration of `int Option::string' include/getopt++/Option.h:33: conflicts with previous declaration `int Option::string' include/getopt++/Option.h:35: parse error before `const' include/getopt++/Option.h:35: duplicate member `Option::string' make[2]: *** [src/GetOption.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/setup-0/libgetopt++' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/setup-0' make: *** [all] Error 2 Shouldn't this package build cleanly out of the box? Am I missing something? _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link
xinit does 2 things - it launches the X server and then one or more X clients. If you want to customize the X client part (including the Window Manager), create/modify/edit the file $HOME/.xinitrc. If you want to customize the X server part, create/modify/edit the file $HOME/.xserverrc. Alternatively, you can pass command-line options to the X server by specifying them on xinit's command-line after --. For example, xinit -- -rootless will cause XWin to startup in rootless mode. As for the console window, there is no way to avoid it being there until xinit completes, which doesn't happen until after the X server shuts down. This is really no different than if you use a Windows batchfile to fire up XWin and one or more local X clients. It's a necessary evil. From: Pavel Holejsovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:10:40 +0100 I think you are looking for $HOME/.xserverrc file. E.g. mine contains: #! /bin/sh X -nowinkill -nodecoration -lesspointer -rootless BTW, this all seems to be documented in xinit man page, as pointed out by Thomas. Pavel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Thomas, The thing is, no matter what I put in those files, it either starts XWin with a border, or not at all. And when I do get it to start up, there is always a console mode window hanging around until I close it, and that closes XWin... *sigh* I AM trying to understand how all this stuff fits together, but I'm not having very much luck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link RTFM! Do man xinit from the Cygwin command-line and read the 1st 3 paragraphs. From: Jean-Claude Gervais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:08:07 -0500 Thanks Artur, But that's not quite the info I was looking for; You see, when I type startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh, I get a DIFFERENT result than from starting xinit by itself. Yet, xinit does start XWin, only it is starting it in windowed mode... Which is OK, but I'm just wondering WHERE does xinit get this from? Is it executing a script? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Artur Hefczyc Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link What parameters does it use to start XWin? Where does it get the parameters? You can find manual and parameters for XWin from command: man XWin Is it executing a script? /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh Artur Hefczyc -- Artur Hefczyc http://wttools.sf.net/ _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link
RTFM! Do man xinit from the Cygwin command-line and read the 1st 3 paragraphs. From: Jean-Claude Gervais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:08:07 -0500 Thanks Artur, But that's not quite the info I was looking for; You see, when I type startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh, I get a DIFFERENT result than from starting xinit by itself. Yet, xinit does start XWin, only it is starting it in windowed mode... Which is OK, but I'm just wondering WHERE does xinit get this from? Is it executing a script? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Artur Hefczyc Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link What parameters does it use to start XWin? Where does it get the parameters? You can find manual and parameters for XWin from command: man XWin Is it executing a script? /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh Artur Hefczyc -- Artur Hefczyc http://wttools.sf.net/ _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
RE: Newbie question -
The problem with what you describe is that you can have 1 and only 1 window manager per X display at a time. In other words, you can't connect through XDMCP, which launches a window manager, and then launch a local window manager on the same display. I don't see what would be wrong with running 2 instances of XWin. You could start the first one with DISPLAY=:0, and do the XDMCP query and all that. The second instance of XWin could be on DISPLAY=:1 and launch a local window manager. The only thing that would give away the fact that they are not the same DISPLAY would be the fact that they would apear to occupy different planes in the z-axis. You should be able to make this relatively seemless in your startxwin script. Come to think of it, an alternative to launching a second XWin instance would be to use the Windows Start button to launch local X apps. As I've seen mentioned here before, you should be able to write a simple startxapp.bat script which sets the path, DISPLAY, etc. and then runs an x app that can be passed in as a command-line argument. You could then create a group off the Start button with a different shortcut for each X app you want to be able to launch. The drawback to this would be that you'll get a separate icon for each local X app launched in this manner which, when un-minimized, is nothing but an empty box. From: Jean-Claude Gervais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Newbie question - Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 18:45:05 -0500 Hi Harold! OK, I'll tell you what I'm up to: What I do these days is start XWin -rootless -query host I have the host set up so that I log in using gnome, and I have set the remote Gnome to NOT set a background. That way, all I have is the Gnome taskbar, which I dock on the top of my monitor while the Windows taskbar is docked at the bottom of the monitor. That way, it really is quite like being logged onto both computers simultaneously. The only thing is, I haven't figured out how to run local X applications at the same time. I'd like WindowMaker's desktop launcher come up on the display also. I could probably run a bash shell as a Windows console mode app and from it start some X applications, but this seems inelegant. I'm trying to get all three at the same time, and then, (hopefully) hook Xwinclip into the chain and be able to paste data from one computer to another... Does that sound cogent? I can't really be sure, often I've noticed there are even better ways of doing what I want with *nix, only I am still ignorant of many of them. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 5:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Newbie question - Jean-Claude, No. XDMCP manages your entire X Windows session. Either you use it at startup or you don't use it at all. If all you want is a local window manager and remote applications, then you should launch XWin with your local window manager, then ssh into your remote host with X forwarding enabled and launch your X Clients in the background (e.g. ``xterm''). What did you envision would happen if you were running a local window manager and you logged into a remote XDMCP session at the same time, assuming that this was possible? Did you assume that the window managers would share the screen, that a new window would popup with the XDMCP session? What were you envisioning? Harold Harold Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: Is there a way to invoke XDMCP AFTER the fact? Once I have started a local window manager, I'd like to do an XDMCP query, but running XWin again creates a second instance of X that is independent of my current window session. I tried running XDM ?!? And it replies only root wants to run xdm... But there is no user called root on my system... Thanks. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
RE: an idea for building win32 based xfd
Please let me have your comments on my idea that aims to build win32 based x font server which is capable of exporting fonts installed on a Windows machine. By using this server, cygwin/xfree users do not need to install X-specific fonts aside from Windows fonts. This server is expected to behave as xfd. So any X server will benefit from this server. Since font installation is done in Windows side, almost no font configuration effort is required in X side. I'd like to have your opinion about this. I guess this kind of idea has already poped up in many peoples' mind. There might be a similar project or software proposed by someone else before... Any comment? Thanks, Taishin First of all, don't you mean xfs, not xfd? Secondly, how is this different from running the stock xfs that's in the XFree86 distro using free-type to support the Windows fonts? _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
[ATTN: Harold] RE: Problem with keymap under cygwin-xfree
Strange. I was under the impression that pressing 1 gave you nothing. Given that you're pressing 1 and getting the same keycode as if you pressed h is definitely strange. Time for Harold to get involved with this one. From: Harris, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Problem with keymap under cygwin-xfree Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:18:49 -0800 Device Manager identifies it as a Standard 101/102-Key. The problem with the workaround is that pressing the '1' key reports as keycode 43 and generates an h. Pressing an 'h' also reports as keycode 43 and generates an h. Hence, if I remap keycode 43, I now have a 1, but no h. This is so freakin mystifying. Why would two keys report the same keycode when pressed?? -Original Message- From: Thomas Chadwick [mailto:j_tetazoo;hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Problem with keymap under cygwin-xfree Looking at XWin.log, I can tell you're using an XF86Config file. However, your settings seem to match mine, which is good, I think, since I don't use an XF86Config file at all (resulting in defaults). Since xev is telling us that the X server is at least getting the keystrokes, a work-around would be to systematically figure out the keycodes using xev, and then add them to your .Xmodmap file. For instance, if xev reports that pressing the 1 key gives you keycode 200, then put keycode 200 = 1 exclam in .Xmodmap. As for the root cause? I'm at a loss to explain it. However, I'm not exactly an expert on the subject, so hopefully someone else on the list may be able to figure it out. One other thought: Maybe your keyboard isn't a standard 101/102-key keyboard? What does the Windows Device Manager identify your keyboard as? From: Harris, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Problem with keymap under cygwin-xfree Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:41:22 -0800 Thank you. I have made sure NumLock And CapsLock are OFF. I have attached the output of xev when I strike the keys 0-9, backspace, -, = and tab. I included some of the standard letter keys which do, in fact, work. Also attached is /tmp/Xwin.log. One thing I did try in all of this was ensuring I had a valid 104 key us pc .Xmodmap in ~. that produced exactly the same results I am seeing now. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Thomas Chadwick [mailto:j_tetazoo;hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 6:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with keymap under cygwin-xfree Make sure NumLock and CapsLock are both OFF. That can sometimes cause problem with certain X clients. If that's not the culprit, try running xev and see if X is even getting the keypress events. If xev spews a bunch of messages when pressing one of the keys in questions, cut-and-paste them to the list and we'll have a look-see. One other thing, post the contents of /tmp/XWin.log. From: Harris, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Problem with keymap under cygwin-xfree Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:35:37 -0800 I have looked all over the list archive for the answer to this, with no results. So I am going to ask. Apologies if this has been covered somewhere before. I am having a maddening problem with xfree86 not recognizing some keys on my keyboard. And what is odd about this is that they are just the number keys (not the number pad), the backspace key and the tab key that appear to not be recognized. These keys work in other win32 applications, as well as the cygwin bash shell. I am at a total loss on this. If anyone can help, it would be much appreciated. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail XWin.log xev.log _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: Problem with keymap under cygwin-xfree
Looking at XWin.log, I can tell you're using an XF86Config file. However, your settings seem to match mine, which is good, I think, since I don't use an XF86Config file at all (resulting in defaults). Since xev is telling us that the X server is at least getting the keystrokes, a work-around would be to systematically figure out the keycodes using xev, and then add them to your .Xmodmap file. For instance, if xev reports that pressing the 1 key gives you keycode 200, then put keycode 200 = 1 exclam in .Xmodmap. As for the root cause? I'm at a loss to explain it. However, I'm not exactly an expert on the subject, so hopefully someone else on the list may be able to figure it out. One other thought: Maybe your keyboard isn't a standard 101/102-key keyboard? What does the Windows Device Manager identify your keyboard as? From: Harris, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Problem with keymap under cygwin-xfree Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:41:22 -0800 Thank you. I have made sure NumLock And CapsLock are OFF. I have attached the output of xev when I strike the keys 0-9, backspace, -, = and tab. I included some of the standard letter keys which do, in fact, work. Also attached is /tmp/Xwin.log. One thing I did try in all of this was ensuring I had a valid 104 key us pc .Xmodmap in ~. that produced exactly the same results I am seeing now. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Thomas Chadwick [mailto:j_tetazoo;hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 6:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with keymap under cygwin-xfree Make sure NumLock and CapsLock are both OFF. That can sometimes cause problem with certain X clients. If that's not the culprit, try running xev and see if X is even getting the keypress events. If xev spews a bunch of messages when pressing one of the keys in questions, cut-and-paste them to the list and we'll have a look-see. One other thing, post the contents of /tmp/XWin.log. From: Harris, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Problem with keymap under cygwin-xfree Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:35:37 -0800 I have looked all over the list archive for the answer to this, with no results. So I am going to ask. Apologies if this has been covered somewhere before. I am having a maddening problem with xfree86 not recognizing some keys on my keyboard. And what is odd about this is that they are just the number keys (not the number pad), the backspace key and the tab key that appear to not be recognized. These keys work in other win32 applications, as well as the cygwin bash shell. I am at a total loss on this. If anyone can help, it would be much appreciated. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail XWin.log xev.log _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: Problem with keymap under cygwin-xfree
Make sure NumLock and CapsLock are both OFF. That can sometimes cause problem with certain X clients. If that's not the culprit, try running xev and see if X is even getting the keypress events. If xev spews a bunch of messages when pressing one of the keys in questions, cut-and-paste them to the list and we'll have a look-see. One other thing, post the contents of /tmp/XWin.log. From: Harris, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Problem with keymap under cygwin-xfree Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:35:37 -0800 I have looked all over the list archive for the answer to this, with no results. So I am going to ask. Apologies if this has been covered somewhere before. I am having a maddening problem with xfree86 not recognizing some keys on my keyboard. And what is odd about this is that they are just the number keys (not the number pad), the backspace key and the tab key that appear to not be recognized. These keys work in other win32 applications, as well as the cygwin bash shell. I am at a total loss on this. If anyone can help, it would be much appreciated. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated Cygwin/XFree86 Package: x2x-1.27-2
ANNOUCEMENT An update to the Cygwin/XFree86 package 'x2x' is now available. DESCRIPTION The usefulness of this utility will become apparent to anyone with a PC side-by-side with an *ix workstation. Simply bring up an XWindows session on each machine, run x2x on the PC, and use your PC's mouse and keyboard to control your *ix workstation's display. Works better and is cheaper than a KVM (Keyboard/Video/Mouse) switch. It also works much like a multi-headed X session. RELEASE HISTORY x2x-1.27-2 (current release): Bugfix and enhancement release. Changes are: 1) Fixed problem in which x2x consumes nearly 100% of the CPU. This was due to a problem in setting up a call to select(), which was causing it to be non-blocking. 2) Added some includes and cleaned-up some code to cut down on compiler warnings. 3) Added a whole new feature! Invoking x2d with a command-line flag of -capslockhackcauses it to wrap Shift key Press/ Release events around alpha keystrokes. I discovered I needed this feature because the to display I have uses the state of CapsLock on its attached keyboard to determine if CapsLock is on (instead of obeying the CapsLock Press/Release keyboard events). x2x-1.27-1: Initial Release. Vendor code built and package as-is. KNOWN BUGS Doesn't work very well with the new rootless mode of XWin. I plan to fix this in a future release. INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS To update your installation, click on the Install Cygwin now link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick up 'x2x' from the 'XFree86' category. You may need to click the Full button if it doesn't show up. Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't allowed due to bandwidth limitations. This means that you will need to find a mirror which has this update. In the US, ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/ is a reliable high bandwidth connection. In Japan, ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/gnu/gnu-win32/ is usually up-to-date. In DK, http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/cygwin/ is usually up-to-date. If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package you can either wait for the site to be updated or find another mirror. Please send questions or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list (mailto:cygwin-xfree;sources.redhat.com). If you want to subscribe go to http://cygwin.com/lists.html. I would appreciate it if you would use the mailing list rather than emailing me directly. This includes ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin/XFree86 in general. If you want to make a point or ask a question, the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is the appropriate place. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated Cygwin/XFree86 Package: x2x-1.27-2
Sorry, can't help you. I don't have this type of setup, so I've never encountered the problem you are seeing. I know I've seen this very question posted to this mailing list in the past. Perhaps you can find the answer you seek by searching the archives? Tip: Try using google with site:cygwin.com as the last search term. From: Jean-Claude Gervais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated Cygwin/XFree86 Package: x2x-1.27-2 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:15:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from sources.redhat.com ([209.249.29.67]) by mc4-f19.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:18:35 -0800 Received: (qmail 28666 invoked by alias); 4 Nov 2002 15:18:28 - Received: (qmail 28589 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2002 15:18:27 - Received: from unknown (HELO VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca) (24.201.245.36) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 15:18:27 - Received: from mercury ([24.200.89.140]) by VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 0.9 (built Jul 29 2002)) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:17:27 -0500 (EST) Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: mailto:cygwin-xfree-unsubscribe-j_tetazoo=hotmail.com;cygwin.com List-Subscribe: mailto:cygwin-xfree-subscribe;cygwin.com List-Archive: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ List-Post: mailto:cygwin-xfree;cygwin.com List-Help: mailto:cygwin-xfree-help;cygwin.com, http://sources.redhat.com/ml/#faqs Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: 00aa01c28415$14cbdec0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2002 15:18:35.0647 (UTC) FILETIME=[71B210F0:01C28415] Great news Thomas, Um, since you know so much about dual-displays, maybe you could help me? I'm running Cygwin XFree on a machine inside which I have installed two video cards; this in effect creates a really large Windows desktop. I'm just wondering if you know of any way to get the Cygwin XFree display to either use the full desktop surface, or failing that, is there a way to get Cygwin XFree to start up on the right-hand side of the display, because it never seems to want to start on the second display... Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner;cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated Cygwin/XFree86 Package: x2x-1.27-2 ANNOUCEMENT An update to the Cygwin/XFree86 package 'x2x' is now available. DESCRIPTION The usefulness of this utility will become apparent to anyone with a PC side-by-side with an *ix workstation. Simply bring up an XWindows session on each machine, run x2x on the PC, and use your PC's mouse and keyboard to control your *ix workstation's display. Works better and is cheaper than a KVM (Keyboard/Video/Mouse) switch. It also works much like a multi-headed X session. RELEASE HISTORY x2x-1.27-2 (current release): Bugfix and enhancement release. Changes are: 1) Fixed problem in which x2x consumes nearly 100% of the CPU. This was due to a problem in setting up a call to select(), which was causing it to be non-blocking. 2) Added some includes and cleaned-up some code to cut down on compiler warnings. 3) Added a whole new feature! Invoking x2d with a command-line flag of -capslockhackcauses it to wrap Shift key Press/ Release events around alpha keystrokes. I discovered I needed this feature because the to display I have uses the state of CapsLock on its attached keyboard to determine if CapsLock is on (instead of obeying the CapsLock Press/Release keyboard events). x2x-1.27-1: Initial Release. Vendor code built and package as-is. KNOWN BUGS Doesn't work very well with the new rootless mode of XWin. I plan to fix this in a future release. INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS To update your installation, click on the Install Cygwin now link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick up 'x2x' from the 'XFree86' category. You may need to click the Full button if it doesn't show up. Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't allowed due to bandwidth limitations. This means that you will need to find a mirror which has this update. In the US, ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/ is a reliable high bandwidth connection. In Japan, ftp
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated Cygwin/XFree86 Package: x2x-1.27-2
For kicks, I did some poking around at http://msdn.microsoft.com by searching on multiple monitors. Found lots of good reading. You might want to do the same. I noticed a hint that said something to the effect of an application will try to create its window on the same monitor on which it's shortcut is located. What happens if you run startxwin.bat via a shortcut on the secondary monitor? From: Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated Cygwin/XFree86 Package: x2x-1.27-2 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:49:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from sources.redhat.com ([209.249.29.67]) by mc3-f41.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:51:18 -0800 Received: (qmail 24961 invoked by alias); 4 Nov 2002 15:49:16 - Received: (qmail 24899 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2002 15:49:15 - Received: from unknown (HELO sargasso.cse.msu.edu) (35.9.20.10) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 15:49:15 - Received: from msu.edu (ajboggs.tcimet.net [198.109.162.133])by sargasso.cse.msu.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4Fn9fF024848for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:49:09 -0500 (EST) Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: mailto:cygwin-xfree-unsubscribe-j_tetazoo=hotmail.com;cygwin.com List-Subscribe: mailto:cygwin-xfree-subscribe;cygwin.com List-Archive: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ List-Post: mailto:cygwin-xfree;cygwin.com List-Help: mailto:cygwin-xfree-help;cygwin.com, http://sources.redhat.com/ml/#faqs Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021014 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: 00aa01c28415$14cbdec0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: 00aa01c28415$14cbdec0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2002 15:51:18.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[03C82660:01C2841A] Jean-Claude, No, there is not way for Cygwin/XFree86 to use the entire area of the dual-display; that is pretty much a limitation of DirectDraw, if I recall correctly (I seem to remember that a surface can only span a single physical monitor). You could probably pass the ``-engine 1'' argument to use the GDI-based blitter, but that would still be limited to a single physical display because Cygwin/XFree86 trims the specified size to fit on the primary monitor. We would need some sort of new command-line argument to indicate that the specified size is not to be trimmed in anyway, or we could have a flag that says to use the entire virtual desktop size. I prefer the later. In any case, some coding will need to happen before your request can be realized. Harold Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: Great news Thomas, Um, since you know so much about dual-displays, maybe you could help me? I'm running Cygwin XFree on a machine inside which I have installed two video cards; this in effect creates a really large Windows desktop. I'm just wondering if you know of any way to get the Cygwin XFree display to either use the full desktop surface, or failing that, is there a way to get Cygwin XFree to start up on the right-hand side of the display, because it never seems to want to start on the second display... Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner;cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated Cygwin/XFree86 Package: x2x-1.27-2 ANNOUCEMENT An update to the Cygwin/XFree86 package 'x2x' is now available. DESCRIPTION The usefulness of this utility will become apparent to anyone with a PC side-by-side with an *ix workstation. Simply bring up an XWindows session on each machine, run x2x on the PC, and use your PC's mouse and keyboard to control your *ix workstation's display. Works better and is cheaper than a KVM (Keyboard/Video/Mouse) switch. It also works much like a multi-headed X session. RELEASE HISTORY x2x-1.27-2 (current release): Bugfix and enhancement release. Changes are: 1) Fixed problem in which x2x consumes nearly 100% of the CPU. This was due to a problem in setting up a call to select(), which was causing it to be non-blocking. 2) Added some includes and cleaned-up some code to cut down on compiler warnings. 3) Added a whole new feature! Invoking x2d with a command-line flag of -capslockhackcauses it to wrap Shift key Press/ Release events around alpha keystrokes. I discovered I needed this feature because the to display I have uses the state of CapsLock on its attached keyboard to determine if CapsLock is on (instead of obeying
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated Cygwin/XFree86 Package: x2x-1.27-2
By the way, this reponse was directed at Jean-Claude, not you, Harold. From: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated Cygwin/XFree86 Package: x2x-1.27-2 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:15:09 -0500 For kicks, I did some poking around at http://msdn.microsoft.com by searching on multiple monitors. Found lots of good reading. You might want to do the same. I noticed a hint that said something to the effect of an application will try to create its window on the same monitor on which it's shortcut is located. What happens if you run startxwin.bat via a shortcut on the secondary monitor? From: Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated Cygwin/XFree86 Package: x2x-1.27-2 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:49:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from sources.redhat.com ([209.249.29.67]) by mc3-f41.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:51:18 -0800 Received: (qmail 24961 invoked by alias); 4 Nov 2002 15:49:16 - Received: (qmail 24899 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2002 15:49:15 - Received: from unknown (HELO sargasso.cse.msu.edu) (35.9.20.10) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 15:49:15 - Received: from msu.edu (ajboggs.tcimet.net [198.109.162.133])by sargasso.cse.msu.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4Fn9fF024848for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:49:09 -0500 (EST) Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: mailto:cygwin-xfree-unsubscribe-j_tetazoo=hotmail.com;cygwin.com List-Subscribe: mailto:cygwin-xfree-subscribe;cygwin.com List-Archive: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ List-Post: mailto:cygwin-xfree;cygwin.com List-Help: mailto:cygwin-xfree-help;cygwin.com, http://sources.redhat.com/ml/#faqs Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021014 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: 00aa01c28415$14cbdec0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: 00aa01c28415$14cbdec0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2002 15:51:18.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[03C82660:01C2841A] Jean-Claude, No, there is not way for Cygwin/XFree86 to use the entire area of the dual-display; that is pretty much a limitation of DirectDraw, if I recall correctly (I seem to remember that a surface can only span a single physical monitor). You could probably pass the ``-engine 1'' argument to use the GDI-based blitter, but that would still be limited to a single physical display because Cygwin/XFree86 trims the specified size to fit on the primary monitor. We would need some sort of new command-line argument to indicate that the specified size is not to be trimmed in anyway, or we could have a flag that says to use the entire virtual desktop size. I prefer the later. In any case, some coding will need to happen before your request can be realized. Harold Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: Great news Thomas, Um, since you know so much about dual-displays, maybe you could help me? I'm running Cygwin XFree on a machine inside which I have installed two video cards; this in effect creates a really large Windows desktop. I'm just wondering if you know of any way to get the Cygwin XFree display to either use the full desktop surface, or failing that, is there a way to get Cygwin XFree to start up on the right-hand side of the display, because it never seems to want to start on the second display... Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner;cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated Cygwin/XFree86 Package: x2x-1.27-2 ANNOUCEMENT An update to the Cygwin/XFree86 package 'x2x' is now available. DESCRIPTION The usefulness of this utility will become apparent to anyone with a PC side-by-side with an *ix workstation. Simply bring up an XWindows session on each machine, run x2x on the PC, and use your PC's mouse and keyboard to control your *ix workstation's display. Works better and is cheaper than a KVM (Keyboard/Video/Mouse) switch. It also works much like a multi-headed X session. RELEASE HISTORY x2x-1.27-2 (current release): Bugfix and enhancement release. Changes are: 1) Fixed problem in which x2x consumes nearly 100% of the CPU. This was due to a problem in setting up a call to select(), which was causing it to be non-blocking. 2) Added some includes and cleaned-up some code to cut down on compiler warnings. 3) Added a whole new feature! Invoking x2d with a command-line flag of -capslockhackcauses it to wrap
RE: rootless mode and mousing to other windows
There was some discussion on the list a while back regarding this very thing. They are now using the win32-x11 mailing list. Here's a message announcing the genesis of the project: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/win32-x11/2002-q3/msg00019.html From: Gerald S. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: rootless mode and mousing to other windows Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:51:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from alageremail2.agere.com ([192.19.192.110]) by mc4-f34.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:51:55 -0800 Received: from alcerelay.agere.com (alcerelay.agere.com [128.94.213.32])by alageremail2.agere.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gA1FpsN15976;Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from almail.agere.com by alcerelay.agere.com (8.9.3+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2)id KAA26797 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from PAI820G1006951 by almail.agere.com (8.9.3+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2)id KAA09272; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:51:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 15:51:56.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AC89080:01C281BE] Thomas Chadwick wrote: Is it as simple as patching XWin to call XSetInputFocus() with a focus argument of None when MS Windows informs it that it has lost focus? That's the type of thing I was hoping for. Harold L Hunt II wrote: I don't think that such interaction between the X Windows window manager and, essentially, the Windows window manager is going to be useful in the end, and it would be overly complicated to implement such an interim solution. Is that really a fair assessment? For Windows interaction, I'm only talking about hooking into the focus events. This would be a useful addition even without rootless mode or true Windows integration. And it looks like those events are already hooked in order to deal with keyboard modes. Which needs some debugging anyway, since X sometimes gets confused about caps lock (granted I've seen this on Sun workstations also, but not in a very long time). If there's any complexity, it's purely on the X side, and IMO it's something that should be addressed if it hasn't already. Shouldn't there be a way to tell X that you've removed focus from it entirely? Remember that the ultimate solution is to write calls that make Windows the window manager for our X apps, so your concern would no longer be an issue. I urge you to focus on the later solution, rather than trying to send signals between two window managers. That's a bit too much for me to get involved in right now. Besides, I'm not really interested in using the Windows shell for managing X-Windows. Ultimately, what you really want is the ability to go both ways--let X applications be managed by Windows and let Windows applications be managed by X window managers (like LiteStep only allowing X calls all the way down--I think LiteStep uses GTK or something). Of course, this can get a bit complicated, especially when the services aren't quite the same between Windows and X. But I suspect others with more experience in XFree86 are already thinking about these things. For now, I wanted to start small. -Jerry _ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Looking for ideas to fix x2x in rootless mode...
I'm hoping some folks on the ML might help me brainstorm a solution to fixing x2x in rootless mode... For those of you not familiar with x2x, it's a handy utility that gives you a dual-headed X display if you have side-by-side workstations both running X (one is designated the from display, the other the to display). It does this by simply grabbing the pointer and keyboard focus on the from display, and generating fake pointer and keyboard events on the to display whenever it receives pointer or keyboard events from the from display. In my particular case, the from display is a PC running Cygwin/XFree86, and the to display is an RS/6000 Workstation. The trouble with rootless mode is that when my pointer leaves the X server region, x2x no longer gets any pointer events from the from display. This has the effect of restricting my pointer movements on the to display to areas that are occupied by X clients on the from display. I tried patching x2x by using the Windows API calls SetCapture(HWND hwnd) and ReleaseCapture() at the same time x2x does XGrabPointer() and XUnGrabPointer() respectively. However, the Capture fails. If I interpret the MSDN documentation correctly, I think it's because the x2x.exe thread does not own the HWND it's trying to do the Capture on (XWin.exe does). I suppose I could try to overcome this by patching the XGrabPointer() and XUnGrabPointer() functions in the XFree86 source directly. This would result in XWin doing the SetCapture as a result of calling XGrabPointer() from x2x. I haven't actually tried this, however, because it occurs to me that I have an additional problem. Again, if I interpret the scant documentation properly, it looks to me that while SetCapture may grab the pointer, clicking a mouse button while outside the X server region will cause the capture to be released and the mouse button event to go to whatever MS Windows client is under the pointer at the time of the click. This would have the effect of letting me point to any region in the to display as long as I don't press a mouse button. Not very useful. Perhaps there is a different API call which keeps a stronger hold of the pointer than SetCapture()? How about calling XWarpPointer() from x2x to keep the pointer from leaving the X server region? Any other ideas? _ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Re: rootless mode and mousing to other windows
Is it as simple as patching XWin to call XSetInputFocus() with a focus argument of None when MS Windows informs it that it has lost focus? From: Gerald S. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: rootless mode and mousing to other windows Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:28:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from sources.redhat.com ([209.249.29.67]) by mc1-f6.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:28:19 -0800 Received: (qmail 26023 invoked by alias); 31 Oct 2002 18:28:14 - Received: (qmail 25959 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 18:28:13 - Received: from unknown (HELO alageremail2.agere.com) (192.19.192.110) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2002 18:28:13 - Received: from alerelay.agere.com (alerelay.agere.com [135.14.2.184])by alageremail2.agere.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g9VISCN09008for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:28:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from almail.agere.com by alerelay.agere.com (8.9.3+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2)id NAA20979 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:28:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from PAI820G1006951 by almail.agere.com (8.9.3+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2)id NAA07541; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:28:08 -0500 (EST) Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: mailto:cygwin-xfree-unsubscribe-j_tetazoo=hotmail.com;cygwin.com List-Subscribe: mailto:cygwin-xfree-subscribe;cygwin.com List-Archive: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ List-Post: mailto:cygwin-xfree;cygwin.com List-Help: mailto:cygwin-xfree-help;cygwin.com, http://sources.redhat.com/ml/#faqs Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2002 18:28:19.0613 (UTC) FILETIME=[496A6CD0:01C2810B] I agree -rootless rocks. And a -systray option would be great. But one thing that I'd really like to be able to do now that -rootless is around is be able to have all X windows become inactive when a Windows window is selected. When I switch to X-Windows, all of the Windows-style windows become inactive. I'd like the reverse to happen as well. Otherwise, when I switch out of X-Windows, the most-recently-selected window in X is shown as active even though it isn't. It's actually worse than that, since a cursor is shown in both windows. I'm not sure what this is equivalent to in X terms. Perhaps mousing to another screen? Has anyone given any thought to this? I'd be willing to take a shot at an implementation if given enough of a nudge in the right direction. -Jerry Williams _ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 68
I ran Cygwin Setup and installed package XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-15. However, when I run XWin -rootless, it complains: ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning Unrecognized option: -rootless use: X [:display] [option] -a # mouse acceleration (pixels) -acdisable access control restrictions -audit int set audit trail level -auth file select authorization file [snip] If I ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe I see: -rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None 3137536 Oct 20 22:47 /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe* The Oct 20 timestamp is consistant with the Test 68 announcement, so I'm pretty sure I have the right version. _ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp
NEVERMIND: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 68
Oops. I just discovered that I had a old XWin.exe in a directory that is ahead of /usr/X11R6/bin in my path. I used the full path and all is well! Sorry for the false alarm. From: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 68 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:51:21 -0400 I ran Cygwin Setup and installed package XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-15. However, when I run XWin -rootless, it complains: ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning Unrecognized option: -rootless use: X [:display] [option] -a # mouse acceleration (pixels) -acdisable access control restrictions -audit int set audit trail level -auth file select authorization file [snip] If I ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe I see: -rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None 3137536 Oct 20 22:47 /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe* The Oct 20 timestamp is consistant with the Test 68 announcement, so I'm pretty sure I have the right version. _ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp _ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Re: Rootless mode revisited...
FYI - I've taken down the binary I posted to avoid any confusion with Harold's test release of XWin -rootless. From: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited... Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:52:56 -0400 By the way, my ISP seems to be blocking downloads of exe's. Zipping it seems to work. Please download the exe using this URL instead... http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/XWin.zip From: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited... Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:21:25 -0400 I tried out this patch (took a few days because I needed to get xfree86 out of CVS and build it). Very cool. Thanks a bunch to MATSUZAKI for coding it! You saved me a lot of work. Here's a screenshot... http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/pseudo_rootless_screenshot.gif Notice that you can see IE in the background along with some Windows desktop icons down the left side of the screen. The windows in the forground are Xclients (namely xterm, xclock, and xeyes). The icon in the lower left is an iconified Xclient. However, I noticed a few strange artifacts of this approach to rootless mode... 1) When you click and drag on an Xwindow to move it, you only see the bits and pieces of the rubber band outline which happen to overlap the other Xwindows. Where the rubber band overlaps Windows windows, you see nothing. 2) Now that there is no root window, you can't use the XWindows window manager's root-window menus. 3) A favorite tool of mine, x2x, is broken, which is due to the lack of a root window causing the mouse focus to jump back and forth XWindows and Windows. Still, if anyone wants to try it out, here's a binary that I built last night from source I pulled from CVS yesterday... http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/XWin.exe From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited... Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:30:50 +0900 Thomas didn't talk about X Shape Extension. I think Thomas's idea is something like this. With this patch and -nodecoration option, it seems to work good. pseudo-rootless.patch _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp _ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Re: Rootless mode revisited...
I tried out this patch (took a few days because I needed to get xfree86 out of CVS and build it). Very cool. Thanks a bunch to MATSUZAKI for coding it! You saved me a lot of work. Here's a screenshot... http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/pseudo_rootless_screenshot.gif Notice that you can see IE in the background along with some Windows desktop icons down the left side of the screen. The windows in the forground are Xclients (namely xterm, xclock, and xeyes). The icon in the lower left is an iconified Xclient. However, I noticed a few strange artifacts of this approach to rootless mode... 1) When you click and drag on an Xwindow to move it, you only see the bits and pieces of the rubber band outline which happen to overlap the other Xwindows. Where the rubber band overlaps Windows windows, you see nothing. 2) Now that there is no root window, you can't use the XWindows window manager's root-window menus. 3) A favorite tool of mine, x2x, is broken, which is due to the lack of a root window causing the mouse focus to jump back and forth XWindows and Windows. Still, if anyone wants to try it out, here's a binary that I built last night from source I pulled from CVS yesterday... http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/XWin.exe From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited... Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:30:50 +0900 Thomas didn't talk about X Shape Extension. I think Thomas's idea is something like this. With this patch and -nodecoration option, it seems to work good. pseudo-rootless.patch _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Re: how to make startxwin.bat just like startx?
You might want to take a look at this recent post of mine... http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-10/msg00091.html Of particular interest to you might be the stuff at the bottom about how to create a shortcut on the Windows desktop which runs xinit. You could easily change the target to call startx instead. From: Tom Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: how to make startxwin.bat just like startx? Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:43:09 -0400 Is there a way to have startxwin.bat behave just like startx? I.e. to have the XFree86 window resulting from running startxwin.bat be just like the one resulting from running cygwin.bat, and then startx? I'd like to not maintain two sets of configuration files, so I'd like to be able to just work with startx, e.g. to have startxwin.bat invoke it somehow. Can that be done? if so, how? _ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp
Re: Rootless mode revisited...
In response to your first question - the patch isn't in CVS. I pulled the source from CVS, applied the patch that was posted to the ML, then built it. Sorry if that wasn't clear. As for your other 2 questions - I don't have an answer. The fact that Matsuzaki posted this patch came as a complete surprise to me. I had every intention of developing and experimenting with such a patch myself. He just beat me to it. From: Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited... Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:26:20 -0400 Thomas, What CVS tree did you pull this from? Why isn't MATSUZAKI working with us? If I recall correctly, he wrote the Unicode support for xwinclip, right? Harold Thomas Chadwick wrote: I tried out this patch (took a few days because I needed to get xfree86 out of CVS and build it). Very cool. Thanks a bunch to MATSUZAKI for coding it! You saved me a lot of work. Here's a screenshot... http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/pseudo_rootless_screenshot.gif Notice that you can see IE in the background along with some Windows desktop icons down the left side of the screen. The windows in the forground are Xclients (namely xterm, xclock, and xeyes). The icon in the lower left is an iconified Xclient. However, I noticed a few strange artifacts of this approach to rootless mode... 1) When you click and drag on an Xwindow to move it, you only see the bits and pieces of the rubber band outline which happen to overlap the other Xwindows. Where the rubber band overlaps Windows windows, you see nothing. 2) Now that there is no root window, you can't use the XWindows window manager's root-window menus. 3) A favorite tool of mine, x2x, is broken, which is due to the lack of a root window causing the mouse focus to jump back and forth XWindows and Windows. Still, if anyone wants to try it out, here's a binary that I built last night from source I pulled from CVS yesterday... http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/XWin.exe From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited... Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:30:50 +0900 Thomas didn't talk about X Shape Extension. I think Thomas's idea is something like this. With this patch and -nodecoration option, it seems to work good. pseudo-rootless.patch _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp _ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
Re: Rootless mode revisited...
By the way, my ISP seems to be blocking downloads of exe's. Zipping it seems to work. Please download the exe using this URL instead... http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/XWin.zip From: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited... Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:21:25 -0400 I tried out this patch (took a few days because I needed to get xfree86 out of CVS and build it). Very cool. Thanks a bunch to MATSUZAKI for coding it! You saved me a lot of work. Here's a screenshot... http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/pseudo_rootless_screenshot.gif Notice that you can see IE in the background along with some Windows desktop icons down the left side of the screen. The windows in the forground are Xclients (namely xterm, xclock, and xeyes). The icon in the lower left is an iconified Xclient. However, I noticed a few strange artifacts of this approach to rootless mode... 1) When you click and drag on an Xwindow to move it, you only see the bits and pieces of the rubber band outline which happen to overlap the other Xwindows. Where the rubber band overlaps Windows windows, you see nothing. 2) Now that there is no root window, you can't use the XWindows window manager's root-window menus. 3) A favorite tool of mine, x2x, is broken, which is due to the lack of a root window causing the mouse focus to jump back and forth XWindows and Windows. Still, if anyone wants to try it out, here's a binary that I built last night from source I pulled from CVS yesterday... http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/XWin.exe From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited... Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:30:50 +0900 Thomas didn't talk about X Shape Extension. I think Thomas's idea is something like this. With this patch and -nodecoration option, it seems to work good. pseudo-rootless.patch _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp _ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp
Re: Rootless mode revisited...
From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited... Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 02:08:41 +0900 [snip] 3) A favorite tool of mine, x2x, is broken, which is due to the lack of a root window causing the mouse focus to jump back and forth XWindows and Windows. Sorry. I have not used x2x, and I have only one display, so I can't comment 3). x2x does XGrabPointer and XGrabKeyboard on the from display in order to redirect the mouse and keybaord events to the to display (it uses XunGrab to stop the redirection). Does MS-Windows have an equivalent function? If so, I could patch x2x to also do an MS-Windows grab. Come to think of it, would it not be a good idea to change the XGrab procedures themselves to also do an MS-Windows grab when XWin is running in rootless or pseudo-rootless mode? _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Rootless mode revisited...
I just had a thought on how to implement rootless mode and I'm hoping
someone more familiar with Windows programming and/or the XWin server might
let me know if it's a dead-end before I spend too much time researching it
further.
The idea I had is this: Can we exploit the features of the Windows API that
allow for non-rectangular windows to achieve a pseudo-rootless mode? I
have looked into it enough to find that non-rectangular Windows windows are
really collections of multiple rectangles, ellipses, etc. Seems to me XWin
could exploit this by simply {adding|removing} a rectangle {to|from} the
collection that makes up its shape whenever an Xclient is
{created|destroyed}.
I call it pseudo-rootless mode because you would still need to run an
XWindows window manager to decorate the Xclients, as opposed to having the
Windows window manager do the decoration.
What I don't know is how well Windows will handle, for instance, moving an
Xclient window around once it's been created, since that would involve
dynamically manipulating the shape of a Windows window.
What I also don't know is whether or not the way XWin uses DirectDraw and
frame-buffering somehow precludes the use of the Windows window-shaping
APIs.
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Re: Cygwin Remote: Want to implement a Citrix Metaframe alternative
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cygwin Remote: Want to implement a Citrix Metaframe alternative Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:41:45 +0200 Hi all, I am a Newbee to the X11 System (ok i can configure an compiled it) but, the Steps for Remote Working (like an ICA Metraframe Client) for Cygwin/Xfree86 is not really easy. In Think i have two choices: 1) Remoteauthentication via the Remote Dektopmanager Control Protocol, (But Everyon tells me it is complex an still unsecure?) 2) Using the sure way over an OpenBSD SSH-Shell (thins is the actually configuration, but not a Release Candidate. The SSH way works fine, but the Problem is the Logon Interface (Bash shell) add xhost, DISPLAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.0; export DISPLAY startkde (catch an Error) Wow! My Boss is killing me for this nasty Way. Ok, iam a Programmer, and i think (write a little Windows Application for Logon to the X-Remote Server (but still the non-interactive SSH Shell is bugging me. (I have read from empty Keyphrase Trick???) Ok Guys, what the best and fastest Way (non commercial, Software must be free)? I think I follow what you're trying to do in #2 above. May I suggest the following? On the remote system, create a shell script which contains something like the following: #!/bin/sh # Launch an Xterm (run in the pack ground) xterm -title `whoami`@`hostname` # Launch WindowManager (run in the foreground) mwm On the local (Cygwin) system, create a shell script that contains something similar to the following, and save it as .xinitrc in your home directory: #!/bin/sh ssh -X remoteusername@remotehostname pathtoremotescript The pathtoremotescript is referring to the script on the remote system I suggested above. On the local (Cygwin) system, edit the file .bash_profile in your home directory and add /usr/X11R6/bin to your path: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin Finally, on the Cygwin system, create a Windows shortcut with the following target: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe --login -c xinit -- -nodecoration When you double click the shortcut, the following sequence of events will happen: 1) Windows will run bash. The --login parameter tells it to source your .bash_profile file, adding /usr/X11R6/bin to your PATH. 2) Bash will run xinit, which will start up the X server, then source the .xinitrc file. 3) .xinitrc will execute ssh. 4) ssh will connect to the remote system and prompt you for a password. It will then enable X11 Forwarding, assign the appropriate value to DISPLAY, and will execute the remote shell script. 5) The remote shell script will run, launching an xterm and window manager which will appear on your Cygwin X server screen. 6) Close things down by quitting the window manager on the remote system or by killing the Cygwin X server with Alt-F4. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: Cygwin Remote: Want to implement a Citrix Metaframe alternative
Thanks. I have a small bag of tricks like this. One of these days I'll get around to documenting them. If/when I do so I'll be sure to post a URL to the ML. By the way, I discovered a caveat in the solution I posted at the root of this thread. XWin starts up before xinit launches ssh, causing the root window to obscure the command-line so that you can't see it prompt for a password. I think a reasonable fix would be to put the ssh command inside an xterm in the .xinitrc file as follows: xterm -title ssh on `hostname` \ -e ssh -X remoteusername@remotehostname pathtoremotescript From: Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cygwin Remote: Want to implement a Citrix Metaframe alternative Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 16:43:48 -0400 Thomas, Yes, that is an excellent answer and it describes an elegant solution that 99% of people would not be able to come up with on their own. I am flagging it for inclusion into the User's Guide. Of course, that doesn't mean it will be in the User's Guide next week, or even next month, but it will eventually get there. Harold [snip] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: SSH Notes
From: Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SSH Notes Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 19:16:42 -0400 [snip] At the very least, we should patch the Cygwin release of openssh to assume that DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 when DISPLAY is not defined in the environment. That would make X11 tunnelling much much easier for 95% of our users and I either can't see or I don't care about any pseduo-security hole that this might open up. (Hey, if SSH Secure Shell makes this assumption, then we can too.) Come to think of it, why can't we introduce a wrapper script (we could call it xssh) instead of patching ssh itself? Here's my suggestion: #!/bin/sh if [ -n $DISPLAY ] then echo Error: In order to enable X11 forwarding the DISPLAY variable must be set exit fi ssh -X $* Or, alternatively: if [ -n $DISPLAY ] then export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 fi ssh -X $* _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: Uninstall cygwin for Windows under Windows XP
From the Cygwin FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html#SEC19 From: Skip Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Uninstall cygwin for Windows under Windows XP Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:42:32 -0400 How does one remove all installed CYGWIN files after and install under Windows XP? Many thanks. Skip Knoble, Penn State Center for Academic Computing Herman D. (Skip) Knoble, Research Associate Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.personal.psu.edu/hdk Penn State Information Technology Services Academic Services and Emerging Technologies Graduate Education and Research Services Penn State University 214C Computer Building University Park, PA 16802-2101 Phone:+1 814 865-0818 Fax:+1 814 863-7049 _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Bug report: Using Cygwin-Xfree through Remote Desktop Sharing (RDP)
Sounds similar to this problem I reported a while back... http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00373.html What's in /tmp/XWin.log? From: Jean-Claude Gervais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cygwin-XFree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bug report: Using Cygwin-Xfree through Remote Desktop Sharing (RDP) Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 11:00:28 -0400 This is complicated, so I'll try to be clear. Let's say you have machine A, which is a Windows XP machine that has Cygwin and Cygwin-XFree installed on it. You use A to connect to B. B is a machine running Linux and X. Everything so far works. Then you use machine C (a machine running Windows 2000) to remote-control machine A with Windows XP Remote Desktop Client (RDP). Machine C can use machine A's Cygwin-XFree connection and view machine B. No problem. However, when machine C breaks its connection to machine A, machine A's Cygwin-XFree will no longer display machine B. It will instead display a white screen in Cygwin-XFree. Although I am pretty sure that A is still connected and controlling B, it can no longer see B's display. It seems like Remote Desktop Client mucks-up Cygwin-XFree. I hope that that was clear enough. Thanks. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: X windows display problem
From: Meredith Finkelstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: X windows display problem Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:41:23 -0400 [snip] when i ssh and am on the remote host, and i echo the DISPLAY i get nothing. but i thought this was normal since i'm using the X flag with ssh. This is not normal. DISPLAY needs a value. If ssh is not assigning one, there is probably something wrong with either ssh at the near end or sshd at the far end. when i set export the display=localhost:0.0 then run xeyes then i get the following message Xlib: connection to localhost:0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: localhost:0.0 Try again. From the ssh command-line on the remote machine, the correct value of DISPLAY should be remotehost:10.0, NOT localhost:0.0 AS YOU HAVE SHOWN HERE. Here are a couple of diagrams to make my point... With DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 on localhost, and DISPLAY=remotehost:10.0 on remotehost, the XClients on remotehost send their traffic through the encrypted channel (established between ssh and sshd) back to XWin on localhost: ++ ++ | localhost | | remotehost | ++ ++ || || | XWin --- ssh ---+---(encrypted)---+--- sshd --- XClient | || || ++ ++ If you try to set DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 on remotehost, the XClients on remotehost try to talk directly to XWin on localhost and don't use the encrypted ssh channel at all: ++ ++ | localhost | | remotehost | ++ ++ || || | XWin --- ssh ---+---(encrypted)---+--- sshd --- XClient | | ^| | ^ | | || | | | | ++--(unencrypted)--+--+ | || || ++ ++ _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: X windows display problem
What is the value of the DISPLAY environment variable on the remote machine after running ssh? It should have a value of remotehostname:10.0, or something similar. If it's empty, or the value looks like remotehostname:0.0, localhostname:0.0, or simply :0, then there is a problem with the X forwarding. Note that the ssh daemon on the remote machine has to be explicitly told to enable X forwarding. This might be to blame. I've also seen the existance of the .Xauthority file in the home directory on the local Cygwin host cause problems. From: Meredith Finkelstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: X windows display problem Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:41:41 -0400 Hi I have found some related posts in the archives, but nothing that seems to solve my problem, which is: I start startxwin.sh from my client (which runs windows2000) (I have tried both cygwin shell and cmd) then i open up an ssh connection (ssh -X -l username hostname) to my host computer which is running red hat 7.3. The sshd config file has X11Forwarding turned on when i try to open xterm, xeyes, anything - i get the following error: xterm Xt error: Can't open display: this happens no matter which window i am sshing from - cmd, cygwin, xwindows. and /tmp/XWin.log displays no error messages Any suggestions? Thanks, Meredith -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: X windows display problem
Doh. One more thing. Be sure to run the ssh command from an xterm within XWin. If you're running ssh from the same Cygwin prompt from which you issued startxwin.sh, then that is very likely the source of your problem. From: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: X windows display problem Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:17:29 -0400 I guess I should have read your message a little more carefully before replying. You said that sshd has been configure with X11Forwarding turned on. Give the following a try: 1) On the local system, before running ssh, echo the value of DISPLAY. It should have a value of localhost:0.0 or something similar. If it doesn't, manually set it to the correct value. Verify its value by running a simple xclient like xeyes. 2) Run your ssh -X command. 3) On the remote system, echo the value of DISPLAY. It should have a value of remotesystem:10.0 or something similar. If it doesn't have the right value, try setting it manually. If that doesn't work, then I'm stumped. From: Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: X windows display problem Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:07:13 -0400 What is the value of the DISPLAY environment variable on the remote machine after running ssh? It should have a value of remotehostname:10.0, or something similar. If it's empty, or the value looks like remotehostname:0.0, localhostname:0.0, or simply :0, then there is a problem with the X forwarding. Note that the ssh daemon on the remote machine has to be explicitly told to enable X forwarding. This might be to blame. I've also seen the existance of the .Xauthority file in the home directory on the local Cygwin host cause problems. From: Meredith Finkelstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: X windows display problem Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:41:41 -0400 Hi I have found some related posts in the archives, but nothing that seems to solve my problem, which is: I start startxwin.sh from my client (which runs windows2000) (I have tried both cygwin shell and cmd) then i open up an ssh connection (ssh -X -l username hostname) to my host computer which is running red hat 7.3. The sshd config file has X11Forwarding turned on when i try to open xterm, xeyes, anything - i get the following error: xterm Xt error: Can't open display: this happens no matter which window i am sshing from - cmd, cygwin, xwindows. and /tmp/XWin.log displays no error messages Any suggestions? Thanks, Meredith -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing
I visited the website you posted and they seem to have left out the fact that even if you use X-Win32, you still need to install some of the XFree86 components into Cygwin to support X clients. Since I'm not exactly sure which component(s) are needed, I suggest you install the XFree86-xserv package and use the Cygwin X server, XWin, instead of X-Win32. This should fix your problem. Note: If you're using the shortcut as described in the web site, change the Target to startxwin.bat (leaving the Start in path unchanged) to launch XWin. From: Volker M. Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: xfig for windows: libICE.dll missing Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:37:26 +0200 Hi, I tried to install xfig on my Windows XP system and used your description under http://www.cs.usask.ca/grads/wew036/latex/xfig.html. 1. I start X-Win32 2. I start Cygwin 3. In the first line of the Cygwin terminal it says: bash: xhost: command not found 4. I type xfig 5. An error message appears telling me that the program could not be startet because libICE.dll could not be found. Can you help? Thanks a lot, Volker _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: GNU emacs 21.2-1
From: Joseph H. Buehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GNU emacs 21.2-1 Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 21:37:00 -0400 Cygwin packages have just been uploaded for GNU emacs 21.2. Both X11 and non-X modes work. Shell buffers work, as does compile mode and dired mode. There are some problems with telnet and ange-ftp and gnus -- they don't work with the version of cygwin1.dll I am using, anyway. I don't know what the problem is yet, it appears to be some problem with select(). Undumping is also not implemented yet, but I'll work on it. Joe Buehler FWIW, I ran into a problem with select() in a package I ported to Cygwin/XFree86 called x2x. I eventually ironed it out. The whole discussion is in the cygwin-xfree ML archive for July, 2002: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07/ Search on x2x. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: x-windows opening up too large
From: J S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: x-windows opening up too large Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 19:46:33 + Thanks Thomas, I'll try your ideas out tomorrow when I goto work but I just wanted to say that the geometry flag is fine for the main application window running, it's the windows that pop up from that which I don't seem to have any control over. Look at the documentation for that client program. Almost all X clients have something called Resources, which allow you to control the behavior of the program. You put them in a file called .Xdefaults in your home directory. But running the window manager on the remote machine sounds like a good idea - I'll give that a go, but surely that will be slower won't it? That's what I thought. But after some experimentation, I found that running mwm remotely was much faster than fvwm2, WindowMaker, or leffTif/mwm locally (I don't care for twm, so I didn't evaluate that option). I'm sure your experience may be different since it depends upon how fast the machine is at either end of the pipe, and how fast the LAN is in between. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: GNU emacs 21.2-1
From: Joseph H. Buehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GNU emacs 21.2-1 Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 21:37:00 -0400 Cygwin packages have just been uploaded for GNU emacs 21.2. Both X11 and non-X modes work. Shell buffers work, as does compile mode and dired mode. There are some problems with telnet and ange-ftp and gnus -- they don't work with the version of cygwin1.dll I am using, anyway. I don't know what the problem is yet, it appears to be some problem with select(). Undumping is also not implemented yet, but I'll work on it. Joe Buehler FWIW, I ran into a problem with select() in a package I ported to Cygwin/XFree86 called x2x. I eventually ironed it out. The whole discussion is in the cygwin-xfree ML archive for July, 2002: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07/ Search on x2x. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
