Re: FAQ 4.46, applications interfere with subversion or not?

2009-06-06 Thread Spiro Trikaliotis
Hello,

* On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 07:45:22AM -0700 David Rothenberger wrote:
> On 6/5/2009 2:08 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> On Jun  4 14:33, David Rothenberger wrote:
[...]
>> Can you nail down the problem into a simple testcase?
>
> I kinda doubt it. Subversion is using APR to move a file, and the error  
> occurs only sporadically if some other Windows program (e.g., virus  
> scanner) has the file that's being moved open. Do you expect that to  
> work with 1.7?

I had a test case for plain Windows  as well as cygwin (1.5), cf.
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2008-04/msg00691.html.

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Spiro.

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Re: FAQ 4.46, applications interfere with subversion or not?

2009-06-05 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun  5 07:45, David Rothenberger wrote:
> On 6/5/2009 2:08 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> Can you nail down the problem into a simple testcase?
>
> I kinda doubt it. Subversion is using APR to move a file, and the error  
> occurs only sporadically if some other Windows program (e.g., virus  
> scanner) has the file that's being moved open. Do you expect that to  
> work with 1.7?

Depends on how the Windows program opens the file.  If the file has been
opened with all sharing flags off, there's not the faintest chance to
move the file to another location.  Everything depends on the ability
to open the file for deletion.


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Re: FAQ 4.46, applications interfere with subversion or not?

2009-06-05 Thread David Rothenberger

On 6/5/2009 2:08 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

On Jun  4 14:33, David Rothenberger wrote:

On 6/3/2009 8:37 AM, David Rothenberger wrote:

On 6/3/2009 8:20 AM, masc wrote:

When using cygwin's cvs2svn with subversion (1.6.2 r37639) while running
Avira AntiVir (http://www.avira.com/en/pages/index.php), svnadmin is  
failing

sporadically due to permission failure moving files.
The subversion code base has some hacks to retry various file 
operations to work around this issue. These hacks are enabled for a 
Windows build but not for Cygwin. I've attempted to port these hacks to 
Cygwin, but I may have missed an error code or three, thus not retrying 
some errors that should be retried.
I just uploaded a new version of Subversion for 1.5 with a fix for the  
retry patch. I had missed a case when moving files.


Are you using Cygwin 1.5 or 1.7? I have disabled this hack in the 1.7  
build because I was hoping 1.7's more robust file renaming and deleting 
code would come to the rescue.
It turns out that these problems still occur with 1.7, although less  
frequently, so I've also released new Subversion packages for 1.7 with  
the updated retry patch added.


Did we discuss this already? 


No.


Can you nail down the problem into a simple testcase?


I kinda doubt it. Subversion is using APR to move a file, and the error 
occurs only sporadically if some other Windows program (e.g., virus 
scanner) has the file that's being moved open. Do you expect that to 
work with 1.7?


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Re: FAQ 4.46, applications interfere with subversion or not?

2009-06-05 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun  4 14:33, David Rothenberger wrote:
> On 6/3/2009 8:37 AM, David Rothenberger wrote:
>> On 6/3/2009 8:20 AM, masc wrote:
>>> When using cygwin's cvs2svn with subversion (1.6.2 r37639) while running
>>> Avira AntiVir (http://www.avira.com/en/pages/index.php), svnadmin is  
>>> failing
>>> sporadically due to permission failure moving files.
>>
>> The subversion code base has some hacks to retry various file 
>> operations to work around this issue. These hacks are enabled for a 
>> Windows build but not for Cygwin. I've attempted to port these hacks to 
>> Cygwin, but I may have missed an error code or three, thus not retrying 
>> some errors that should be retried.
>
> I just uploaded a new version of Subversion for 1.5 with a fix for the  
> retry patch. I had missed a case when moving files.
>
>> Are you using Cygwin 1.5 or 1.7? I have disabled this hack in the 1.7  
>> build because I was hoping 1.7's more robust file renaming and deleting 
>> code would come to the rescue.
>
> It turns out that these problems still occur with 1.7, although less  
> frequently, so I've also released new Subversion packages for 1.7 with  
> the updated retry patch added.

Did we discuss this already?  Can you nail down the problem into a
simple testcase?


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Re: FAQ 4.46, applications interfere with subversion or not?

2009-06-04 Thread David Rothenberger

On 6/3/2009 8:37 AM, David Rothenberger wrote:

On 6/3/2009 8:20 AM, masc wrote:

When using cygwin's cvs2svn with subversion (1.6.2 r37639) while running
Avira AntiVir (http://www.avira.com/en/pages/index.php), svnadmin is 
failing

sporadically due to permission failure moving files.


The subversion code base has some hacks to retry various file operations 
to work around this issue. These hacks are enabled for a Windows build 
but not for Cygwin. I've attempted to port these hacks to Cygwin, but I 
may have missed an error code or three, thus not retrying some errors 
that should be retried.


I just uploaded a new version of Subversion for 1.5 with a fix for the 
retry patch. I had missed a case when moving files.


Are you using Cygwin 1.5 or 1.7? I have disabled this hack in the 1.7 
build because I was hoping 1.7's more robust file renaming and deleting 
code would come to the rescue.


It turns out that these problems still occur with 1.7, although less 
frequently, so I've also released new Subversion packages for 1.7 with 
the updated retry patch added.


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Re: FAQ 4.46, applications interfere with subversion or not?

2009-06-03 Thread masc

1.7 seems to work well.. imported 8500 revisions on first attempt, while 1.5
was failing each of 5 attempts, never getting beyond rev 600.
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Re: FAQ 4.46, applications interfere with subversion or not?

2009-06-03 Thread masc

Im using 1.5, will try 1.7 now to see how that goes.. How can I help you to
trace it down?

David Rothenberger wrote:
> 
> Are you using Cygwin 1.5 or 1.7? I have disabled this hack in the 1.7 
> build because I was hoping 1.7's more robust file renaming and deleting 
> code would come to the rescue. If you're using 1.7, I can roll another 
> build with the hack enabled to see if that helps. If you're using 1.5, 
> I'll need your help to debug this so I can adjust the hack to retry in 
> this case. I only see the problem occasionally here.
> 

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Re: FAQ 4.46, applications interfere with subversion or not?

2009-06-03 Thread David Rothenberger

On 6/3/2009 8:20 AM, masc wrote:

When using cygwin's cvs2svn with subversion (1.6.2 r37639) while running
Avira AntiVir (http://www.avira.com/en/pages/index.php), svnadmin is failing
sporadically due to permission failure moving files. 


Reading up on FAQ and mailing lists, I found that 3rd party software like
antivirus programs would be the cause.

However, I installed subversion for windows from here:
http://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=8100
(also 1.6.2 r37639), and after modifying cygwin's PATH to use it, the
problem went away without touching antivir.

I wonder why cygwin's subversion/binaries seems to have issues with antivir,
while others do not.. rather looks like a cygwin issue on first glance.. can
anyone shed light on this?


The subversion code base has some hacks to retry various file operations 
 to work around this issue. These hacks are enabled for a Windows build 
but not for Cygwin. I've attempted to port these hacks to Cygwin, but I 
may have missed an error code or three, thus not retrying some errors 
that should be retried.


Are you using Cygwin 1.5 or 1.7? I have disabled this hack in the 1.7 
build because I was hoping 1.7's more robust file renaming and deleting 
code would come to the rescue. If you're using 1.7, I can roll another 
build with the hack enabled to see if that helps. If you're using 1.5, 
I'll need your help to debug this so I can adjust the hack to retry in 
this case. I only see the problem occasionally here.


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FAQ 4.46, applications interfere with subversion or not?

2009-06-03 Thread masc

Hello,

When using cygwin's cvs2svn with subversion (1.6.2 r37639) while running
Avira AntiVir (http://www.avira.com/en/pages/index.php), svnadmin is failing
sporadically due to permission failure moving files. 

Reading up on FAQ and mailing lists, I found that 3rd party software like
antivirus programs would be the cause.

However, I installed subversion for windows from here:
http://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=8100
(also 1.6.2 r37639), and after modifying cygwin's PATH to use it, the
problem went away without touching antivir.

I wonder why cygwin's subversion/binaries seems to have issues with antivir,
while others do not.. rather looks like a cygwin issue on first glance.. can
anyone shed light on this?

-Marco
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