Re: Perl/TK Missing Dependency Found

2006-01-13 Thread Brett Serkez
[snip]
 fontconfig???
 
 Looks like I had the wrong perl-Tk release uploaded, the one with
 'experimental' Xft support, and not the standard one on my system (which
 is why I couldn't dup this).  Now we all know why it's experimental.
 
 Look for a release -4 soon which should fix this.

The '-4' release works.

Brett

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Re: Perl/TK Missing Dependency Found

2006-01-12 Thread Brett Serkez
 Yaakov, if you would be willing to post the debugging symbols for
 Tk.dll, I could try ferreting out some more info.  Unfortunately, I'm
 not up to building a debug version of Perl/Tk at the moment.  I don't
 recall off-hand who maintains libfontconfig (Harold?), but it's
 unlikely to be a fontconfig problem anyway.

Have the debugging symbols been posted or the maintainer of
libfontconfig looked into this?

Brett

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Re: Perl/TK Missing Dependency Found (Attn: libfontconfig maintainer)

2006-01-12 Thread Igor Peshansky
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Brett Serkez wrote:

  Yaakov, if you would be willing to post the debugging symbols for
  Tk.dll, I could try ferreting out some more info.  Unfortunately, I'm
  not up to building a debug version of Perl/Tk at the moment.  I don't
  recall off-hand who maintains libfontconfig (Harold?), but it's
  unlikely to be a fontconfig problem anyway.

 Have the debugging symbols been posted or the maintainer of
 libfontconfig looked into this?

I haven't seen any messages to that regard.  It was a bit unfortunate that
the subject wasn't changed, and the libfontconfig maintainer can't be
expected to read every message on the Cygwin list.  Hopefully the new
subject will flag his attention.
Igor
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Re: Perl/TK Missing Dependency Found (Attn: libfontconfig maintainer)

2006-01-12 Thread Brett Serkez
   Yaakov, if you would be willing to post the debugging symbols for
   Tk.dll, I could try ferreting out some more info.  Unfortunately,
   I'm not up to building a debug version of Perl/Tk at the moment. I
   don't recall off-hand who maintains libfontconfig (Harold?), but
   it's unlikely to be a fontconfig problem anyway.
 
  Have the debugging symbols been posted or the maintainer of
  libfontconfig looked into this?

 I haven't seen any messages to that regard.  It was a bit unfortunate
 that the subject wasn't changed, and the libfontconfig maintainer
 can't be expected to read every message on the Cygwin list.  Hopefully
 the new subject will flag his attention.

Yes, this is a busy list.  But.. as a practical matter, installation of
libmwf resolves the issue, so while I can understand wanting to dig thru
this, I'm not sure why this dependency isn't simply included as I
originally suggested.

Oh well, I found the issue for myself, I suppose the next poor soul will
re-live the pain.

Brett

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Re: Perl/TK Missing Dependency Found (Attn: libfontconfig maintainer)

2006-01-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 04:20:27PM -0500, Brett Serkez wrote:
Oh well, I found the issue for myself, I suppose the next poor soul
will re-live the pain.

Or the one after that if we just band-aid the problem without actually
understanding it.

cgf

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Re: Perl/TK Missing Dependency Found

2006-01-12 Thread Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports)
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Igor Peshansky wrote:
 I can reproduce this on WinXP Pro SP1 (cygcheck output attached).  Adding
 Perl/Tk to my installation and running the program in Brett's message
 (http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2006-01/msg00423.html) causes a SIGSEGV.
 I don't have a debugging version of Perl, Perl/Tk, or fontconfig, but,
 FWIW, here's the backtrace I get from gdb (some inconsequental output
 snipped):

fontconfig???

Looks like I had the wrong perl-Tk release uploaded, the one with
'experimental' Xft support, and not the standard one on my system (which
is why I couldn't dup this).  Now we all know why it's experimental.

Look for a release -4 soon which should fix this.


Yaakov
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Re: Perl/TK Missing Dependency Found

2006-01-12 Thread Brett Serkez
  I can reproduce this on WinXP Pro SP1 (cygcheck output attached).  Adding
  Perl/Tk to my installation and running the program in Brett's message
  (http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2006-01/msg00423.html) causes a SIGSEGV.
  I don't have a debugging version of Perl, Perl/Tk, or fontconfig, but,
  FWIW, here's the backtrace I get from gdb (some inconsequental output
  snipped):

 fontconfig???

 Looks like I had the wrong perl-Tk release uploaded, the one with
 'experimental' Xft support, and not the standard one on my system
 (which is why I couldn't dup this).  Now we all know why it's
 experimental.

 Look for a release -4 soon which should fix this.

Oh boy, what a run around for such a simple resolution.  I am very
grateful having a 'native' Perl/TK for Cygwin vs. having to using
ActivePerl and shell out to Cygwin scripts, but this could have been an
easier transition.

Yes, I will look for the release with much anticipation and test as soon
as it does.

Thank you,

Brett

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Re: Perl/TK Missing Dependency Found

2006-01-09 Thread Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports)
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Brett Serkez wrote:
 After tedious research, I've figured out that the missing package
 is: libwmf.

None of the perl-Tk modules link against libwmf, and a grep of the
sources for wmf returns nothing.

In addition, neither Debian nor Gentoo show libwmf as a requirement for
their packages.

Can you please explain the basis for your findings?


Yaakov
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Re: Perl/TK Missing Dependency Found

2006-01-09 Thread Brett Serkez
  After tedious research, I've figured out that the missing package
  is: libwmf.

 None of the perl-Tk modules link against libwmf, and a grep of the
 sources for wmf returns nothing.

 In addition, neither Debian nor Gentoo show libwmf as a requirement
 for their packages.

 Can you please explain the basis for your findings?

It works.

Create the following perl program:

#!/usr/bin/perl
use Tk;

my $mw = MainWindow-new;

$mw-Button(
-text = Exit,
-background = red,
-command = sub { exit; },
)-pack( -side = 'bottom' , -fill = 'both' ); 

MainLoop;

Run it in, you get a nice exit button.

Uninstall the package libwmf.

Run it, it core dumps.

As I said in my original postings, I suspected it wasn't directly linked
in.  I honestly don't know precisely why or how, but I know that without
 this package, the simply script above doesn't work.

Please confirm on your system, should be trival, and add the dependency.

Please also bear in mind, that I only install what I need, the default
plus minimum, in this case, Perl/Tk. If this doesn't work on your
system, 
please try this approach.

Thank you,

Brett

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Re: Perl/TK Missing Dependency Found

2006-01-09 Thread Yaakov S (Cygwin Ports)

Brett Serkez wrote:

Run it in, you get a nice exit button.


Right.


Uninstall the package libwmf.

Run it, it core dumps.


Not for me.


Please confirm on your system, should be trival, and add the dependency.

Please also bear in mind, that I only install what I need, the default
plus minimum, in this case, Perl/Tk. If this doesn't work on your
system, please try this approach.


I'll admit that I don't have a mimimal system by any means, but AFAICS 
libwmf has nothing to do with perl-Tk.



Yaakov
Cygwin Ports


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Re: Perl/TK Missing Dependency Found

2006-01-09 Thread Brett Serkez
[snip]
  Please also bear in mind, that I only install what I need, the
  default plus minimum, in this case, Perl/Tk. If this doesn't work on
  your system, please try this approach.

 I'll admit that I don't have a mimimal system by any means, but AFAICS
 libwmf has nothing to do with perl-Tk.

I would kindly ask that you setup a minimal install and try it, perhaps
someone else on this list can try it and also verify.

Are you saying that you are unwilling to take the steps necessary to
persue this just because it works on your system?  I invested several
hours tracking this down for the community, and would appreciate more
than just 'it works on my system' and a blow-off that 'by the book' it
doesn't have anything to do with perl-TK.  I don't claim to understand
the relationship, but it *is* there and I would appreciate it being
addressed as it will come up for others.

Perhaps it is a particular Service Pack?  I've tried on both Windows Xp
Pro and Home with all the latest MS patches.  Perhaps another
unrelated software package is installing a DLL on your system that is
being utilized.  I see that it is a Microsoft library for reading vector
images.  Perhaps you have Office or other package that has installed
this DLL?

I've verified this on a couple of different systems.  Anyone else?

Brett

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Perl/TK Missing Dependency Found

2006-01-08 Thread Brett Serkez
The Perl/TK package fails to execute even simple Perl/TK programs with
the 'default' installation.  That is starting with a brand new
installation of Cygwin, letting it only install the defaults and adding
only the Perl/TK (perl-Tk) results in a segmentation violation when
calling the first Perl/TK function on the main window.

After tedious research, I've figured out that the missing package
is: libwmf.

I request that the perl-tk package maintainer please add this
dependency.

Thank you.

Brett

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