Re: Cygwin newbie needs help
Charles == Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Charles News from XEmacs land: Charles 1) there are two windows ports of XEmacs: a fully native port, and a Charles cygwin port. Charles 2) Both of these ports use so-called native windowing: that is, they Charles use MSWindows GDI calls to paint their display. Neither port uses X; Charles they cannot be redirected (graphically) thru the network to display Charles remotely. Charles 3) If you want that capability, you can only do so with the cygwin Charles build -- but you'll have to build it yourself. Also, the Charles cygwin-with-X-windowing build has not been widely used (or tested). Charles It may have suffered bitrot. I build it regularly since the legendary coolview days. Works perfect nowadays. Charles 4) I *believe* that both the native port and the cygwin port support Charles the '-nw' flag, which allows you to use XEmacs in a tty. Therefore, Charles it is probably possible, with the prebuilt native or cygwin versions Charles of xemacs, to ssh in to your windows box, and use 'xemacs -nw' to edit Charles files. (Of course, you need a working cygwin ssh daemon running on Charles your windows box, but that's a whole 'nother topic.) Charles --Chuck Ciao Volker -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Cygwin newbie needs help
hiyah Joshua, I think I can help you with 1) and 2)... 1) How do I get X forwarding to work? X forwarding should work just fine for me (both from and to windows), setting the display and enabling all hosts on the server is all i've done and it works. but I don't think you will be able to build xemacs with x support on windows; at least you cant do that with gnu emacs IIRC. at any rate try the xfree-cygwin mailing list. 2) Is there a way to rlogin or ssh into the Win2K box? make a search on the mailinglist on how to start the ssh daemon. it works fine, we have it here at the office. allall, make a search on the archives; i found that 90% of the my questions have been asked before... hope it helps. marco -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Cygwin newbie needs help
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Craveiro, Marco wrote: hiyah Joshua, I think I can help you with 1) and 2)... 1) How do I get X forwarding to work? X forwarding should work just fine for me (both from and to windows), setting the display and enabling all hosts on the server is all i've done and it works. but I don't think you will be able to build xemacs with x support on windows; at least you cant do that with gnu emacs IIRC. at any There's no need to build xemacs for windows! You con download it from their homepage for win32! :) m4c. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Cygwin newbie needs help
At 11:13 AM 4/24/2002, Marcos Lorenzo de Santiago wrote: On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Craveiro, Marco wrote: hiyah Joshua, I think I can help you with 1) and 2)... 1) How do I get X forwarding to work? X forwarding should work just fine for me (both from and to windows), setting the display and enabling all hosts on the server is all i've done and it works. but I don't think you will be able to build xemacs with x support on windows; at least you cant do that with gnu emacs IIRC. at any There's no need to build xemacs for windows! You con download it from their homepage for win32! :) Pick Cygwin for the Installation Type when running setup from www.xemacs.org. This will get you a Cygwin-compatible version of XEmacs, which will understand Cygwin mounts, symlinks, etc. Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Cygwin newbie needs help
huh people, maybe i'm really confused here... but i think Joshua wants a build of xemacs that allows him to redirect the display to another xserver. am i wrong in saying that, if at all possible, you need to build it yourself to get it to compile using cygwin's xfree libs? -Original Message- From: Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 April 2002 08:43 To: Marcos Lorenzo de Santiago; Craveiro, Marco Cc: 'B. Joshua Rosen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cygwin newbie needs help At 11:13 AM 4/24/2002, Marcos Lorenzo de Santiago wrote: On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Craveiro, Marco wrote: hiyah Joshua, I think I can help you with 1) and 2)... 1) How do I get X forwarding to work? X forwarding should work just fine for me (both from and to windows), setting the display and enabling all hosts on the server is all i've done and it works. but I don't think you will be able to build xemacs with x support on windows; at least you cant do that with gnu emacs IIRC. at any There's no need to build xemacs for windows! You con download it from their homepage for win32! :) Pick Cygwin for the Installation Type when running setup from www.xemacs.org. This will get you a Cygwin-compatible version of XEmacs, which will understand Cygwin mounts, symlinks, etc. Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Cygwin newbie needs help
From: Craveiro, Marco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Cygwin newbie needs help huh people, maybe i'm really confused here... but i think Joshua wants a build of xemacs that allows him to redirect the display to another xserver. am i wrong in saying that, if at all possible, you need to build it yourself to get it to compile using cygwin's xfree libs? Unless one wants an ancient version compiled for cygwin B20.1, you are correct. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Cygwin newbie needs help
I think you're right but that's more a question for the XEmacs people, which I'm not. ;-) I was merely responding to Marcos comment that XEmacs could be downloaded. While he's right, I wanted to make sure that people realize that downloading the Cygwin version of XEmacs is preferable when Cygwin tools are in use. It prevents allot questions and headaches. Sorry if this information seems off-topic for this thread. Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX At 11:49 AM 4/24/2002, Craveiro, Marco wrote: huh people, maybe i'm really confused here... but i think Joshua wants a build of xemacs that allows him to redirect the display to another xserver. am i wrong in saying that, if at all possible, you need to build it yourself to get it to compile using cygwin's xfree libs? -Original Message- From: Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 April 2002 08:43 To: Marcos Lorenzo de Santiago; Craveiro, Marco Cc: 'B. Joshua Rosen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cygwin newbie needs help At 11:13 AM 4/24/2002, Marcos Lorenzo de Santiago wrote: On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Craveiro, Marco wrote: hiyah Joshua, I think I can help you with 1) and 2)... 1) How do I get X forwarding to work? X forwarding should work just fine for me (both from and to windows), setting the display and enabling all hosts on the server is all i've done and it works. but I don't think you will be able to build xemacs with x support on windows; at least you cant do that with gnu emacs IIRC. at any There's no need to build xemacs for windows! You con download it from their homepage for win32! :) Pick Cygwin for the Installation Type when running setup from www.xemacs.org. This will get you a Cygwin-compatible version of XEmacs, which will understand Cygwin mounts, symlinks, etc. Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Cygwin newbie needs help
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Robinow, David wrote: From: Craveiro, Marco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Cygwin newbie needs help huh people, maybe i'm really confused here... but i think Joshua wants a build of xemacs that allows him to redirect the display to another xserver. am i wrong in saying that, if at all possible, you need to build it yourself to get it to compile using cygwin's xfree libs? Unless one wants an ancient version compiled for cygwin B20.1, you are correct. Sorry, didn't know that :O So can I make ssh to my winbox (having both client and server configuration set to enable X forwarding) and execute cmd.exe and get the window in my winbox/linbox or not? thx, m4c. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Cygwin newbie needs help
On Wed, 2002-04-24 at 11:56, Robinow, David wrote: From: Craveiro, Marco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Cygwin newbie needs help huh people, maybe i'm really confused here... but i think Joshua wants a build of xemacs that allows him to redirect the display to another xserver. am i wrong in saying that, if at all possible, you need to build it yourself to get it to compile using cygwin's xfree libs? Unless one wants an ancient version compiled for cygwin B20.1, you are correct. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Your right, I want a version of Xemacs that allows me to redirect the display to another box (in my case a Redhat system). The prebuilt version that I installed was the CYgwin version. I don't have any way of knowing if it was built with X support built in. The default for Xemacs is to support X but there is a switch to build a non-X version so it's possible that the Cygwin version was built with the no-X option set. I've been trying to build it myself but the libXpm.dll is missing. I downloaded the sources from xemacs.org bu the Makefile seems to be set up to build a non-X version. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Cygwin newbie needs help
News from XEmacs land: 1) there are two windows ports of XEmacs: a fully native port, and a cygwin port. 2) Both of these ports use so-called native windowing: that is, they use MSWindows GDI calls to paint their display. Neither port uses X; they cannot be redirected (graphically) thru the network to display remotely. 3) If you want that capability, you can only do so with the cygwin build -- but you'll have to build it yourself. Also, the cygwin-with-X-windowing build has not been widely used (or tested). It may have suffered bitrot. 4) I *believe* that both the native port and the cygwin port support the '-nw' flag, which allows you to use XEmacs in a tty. Therefore, it is probably possible, with the prebuilt native or cygwin versions of xemacs, to ssh in to your windows box, and use 'xemacs -nw' to edit files. (Of course, you need a working cygwin ssh daemon running on your windows box, but that's a whole 'nother topic.) --Chuck -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Cygwin newbie needs help
| So can I make ssh to my winbox (having both client and server | configuration set to enable X forwarding) and execute cmd.exe and get the | window in my winbox/linbox or not? Well if you run this cmd in an xterm, or x-based rxvt that is fired up and shows nicely on the other machine. /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Cygwin newbie needs help
On Wed, 2002-04-24 at 13:58, Andrew Markebo wrote: | So can I make ssh to my winbox (having both client and server | configuration set to enable X forwarding) and execute cmd.exe and get the | window in my winbox/linbox or not? Well if you run this cmd in an xterm, or x-based rxvt that is fired up and shows nicely on the other machine. /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ xterm worked fine so the problem is definitely with Xemacs. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
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| xterm worked fine so the problem is definitely with Xemacs. Question still remains, is it Xemacs compiled with X11 support?? Do you have libX11co on the cygwin machine? /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
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At 03:10 PM 4/24/2002, Andrew Markebo wrote: | xterm worked fine so the problem is definitely with Xemacs. Question still remains, is it Xemacs compiled with X11 support?? Do you have libX11co on the cygwin machine? I thought Chuck answered this question already. Did I miss something? Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
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/ Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | At 03:10 PM 4/24/2002, Andrew Markebo wrote: | | | xterm worked fine so the problem is definitely with Xemacs. | | Question still remains, is it Xemacs compiled with X11 support?? Do | you have libX11co on the cygwin machine? | | I thought Chuck answered this question already. Did I miss something? Oops sorry, it was me who missed something! I read the complete thread now.. Hmm a hint to the original author might be to give VNC a try, he can get his windows desktop to show up on his Redhat machine. /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Cygwin newbie needs help
On Wed, 2002-04-24 at 15:45, Andrew Markebo wrote: | | I am using VNC, thats what I want to get away from. The performance of | VNC is awful. I'll be forced to use it for true Windoze stuff but for | Cygwin I want to use X-fowarding. Once I get Xemacs compiled properly | I'll be happy. Okeee :-) Hmm checked tridia vnc?? Or the alternative encodings? I have been using VNC on our lan to manage a bunch of computers. How is the xemacs compilation going? -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! OK I've got Xemacs working properly. I couldn't get the current stable release to configure properly (21.1.14) but the latest beta 21.5.6 configured and compiled with no problem. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
