RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-12 Thread Dave Korn
 -Original Message-
 From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Larry Hall
 Sent: 11 July 2004 20:13

 At 12:26 AM 7/10/2004, you wrote:
 
 Larry, these messages are being repeated twice on the list.
 
 
 Actually, no they aren't.  I haven't seen the repeats and the 
 email archives show one message only. 

 That's
 what causing the repeats.
 
 
 No, it's not.  I'm not sure why you're seeing the repeats though.
 

  What's happened is that you've used reply to all, resulting in one copy
going directly to Joshua, and a second going to the list, which then
forwards it to Joshua, hence he sees two copies; one directly and one via
the list.  Check the To: lines in the headers you've sent with the last
couple of posts:

Reply-To: Cygwin List cygwin_BOING!_cygwin_SPLAT!_com
Message-Id:
6.1.0.6.0.2004071944.032ec268_BOING!_pop_SPLAT!_prospeed_SPLAT!_net
X-Sender:
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:10:59 -0400
To: Joshua Halls xerves_BOING!_rafermand_SPLAT!_net, 'Cygwin List'
cygwin_BOING!_cygwin_SPLAT!_com
From: Larry Hall cygwin-lh_BOING!_cygwin_SPLAT!_com
Subject: RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll
In-Reply-To:
200407100300.i6A30ti6027440_BOING!_ns2_SPLAT!_prospeed_SPLAT!_net
References:
6.1.0.6.0.20040709194742.03331008_BOING!_pop_SPLAT!_prospeed_SPLAT!_net
200407100300.i6A30ti6027440_BOING!_ns2_SPLAT!_prospeed_SPLAT!_net

Reply-To: Cygwin List cygwin_BOING!_cygwin_SPLAT!_com
Message-Id:
6.1.0.6.0.20040709194742.03331008_BOING!_pop_SPLAT!_prospeed_SPLAT!_net
X-Sender:
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 20:28:31 -0400
To: Joshua Halls xerves_BOING!_rafermand_SPLAT!_net,
cygwin_BOING!_cygwin_SPLAT!_com
From: Larry Hall cygwin-lh_BOING!_cygwin_SPLAT!_com
Subject: Re: Source Code for cygwin1.dll
In-Reply-To:
200407092237.i69MbQi6020188_BOING!_ns2_SPLAT!_prospeed_SPLAT!_net
References:
200407092237.i69MbQi6020188_BOING!_ns2_SPLAT!_prospeed_SPLAT!_net


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RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-12 Thread Larry Hall
At 10:30 AM 7/12/2004, you wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Larry Hall
 Sent: 11 July 2004 20:13

 At 12:26 AM 7/10/2004, you wrote:
 
 Larry, these messages are being repeated twice on the list.
 
 
 Actually, no they aren't.  I haven't seen the repeats and the 
 email archives show one message only. 

 That's
 what causing the repeats.
 
 
 No, it's not.  I'm not sure why you're seeing the repeats though.
 

  What's happened is that you've used reply to all, resulting in one copy
going directly to Joshua, and a second going to the list, which then
forwards it to Joshua, hence he sees two copies; one directly and one via
the list.  Check the To: lines in the headers you've sent with the last
couple of posts:



Sure, that's true.  But it was Bobby McNulty that was complaining about
multiple copies and he was suggesting that the multiple copies were going
to the list.  That's not true and I can't explain why Bobby would be seeing
what he's seeing but the conclusion he drew from it is wrong.  Joshua made 
no such complaint.

As for how I reply, I always do it the same way.  Reply to all makes sure
it goes to the list and not just the original OP.  If the OP doesn't want a 
copy directed to him/her as well, some procmail filter or setting the 
reply-to to point to the list will take care of that.  I don't second-guess
what the OP implies he/she wants.


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RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-12 Thread Dave Korn
 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Hall  
 Sent: 12 July 2004 16:52

   What's happened is that you've used reply to all, 

 Sure, that's true.  But it was Bobby McNulty that was 
 complaining about multiple copies 


  OMG, so it was.  How utterly bizarre.


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RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-12 Thread Larry Hall
At 12:18 PM 7/12/2004, you wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Hall  
 Sent: 12 July 2004 16:52

   What's happened is that you've used reply to all, 

 Sure, that's true.  But it was Bobby McNulty that was 
 complaining about multiple copies 


  OMG, so it was.  How utterly bizarre.


You probably got caught by my limited abilities to figure out how to 
configure Eudora to not quote email addresses in it's response.  I've
resorted to using you in all cases because Eudora will otherwise use 
the email address if a name doesn't also exist.  Unfortunately, this 
makes quoted text in my replies a little difficult to follow in a 
thread. :-(  I'm happy to hear from anyone who has a solution for Eudora
on this, though I plan eventually to move to a different email client
which, ideally, won't have this problem. ;-)


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RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-12 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen
 From: Larry Hall
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 6:27 PM
 To: Dave Korn; 'Cygwin List'

 At 12:18 PM 7/12/2004, you wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Larry Hall
  Sent: 12 July 2004 16:52
 
What's happened is that you've used reply to all,
 
  Sure, that's true.  But it was Bobby McNulty that was
  complaining about multiple copies
 
 
   OMG, so it was.  How utterly bizarre.


 You probably got caught by my limited abilities to figure out how to
 configure Eudora to not quote email addresses in it's response.  I've
 resorted to using you in all cases because Eudora will otherwise use
 the email address if a name doesn't also exist.  Unfortunately, this
 makes quoted text in my replies a little difficult to follow in a
 thread. :-(  I'm happy to hear from anyone who has a solution for Eudora
 on this, though I plan eventually to move to a different email client
 which, ideally, won't have this problem. ;-)

FWIW:
Seems there is still something wrong with your configuration, a Reply to
All on the message (as quoted above) of yours yields
 Cygwin List; Dave Korn in the TO field (Dave shouldn't be there IMO).

IMHO, Scrap Eudora ASAP. It seems to have some kind of bright idea on how
to quote text too - totally unreadable.

Stop. *** Unrelated sidenotes follows ***


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OPINION:
 email has been the same for ages, let it stay that way.
 If you want something new, DEFINE the new stuff, go use it
 where it is apropriate; any new forum - stop spamming email.

Still; I've yet to see a well functioning email client on the PC
(I used a nice one on the Amiga for a long period of time;
 Thor - configurable as h*ll, through Amiga REXX.
 NOT perfect, not the fastest, but VERY nice.)


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RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-12 Thread Larry Hall
At 02:52 PM 7/12/2004, you wrote:
 From: Larry Hall
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 6:27 PM
 To: Dave Korn; 'Cygwin List'

 At 12:18 PM 7/12/2004, you wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Larry Hall
  Sent: 12 July 2004 16:52
 
What's happened is that you've used reply to all,
 
  Sure, that's true.  But it was Bobby McNulty that was
  complaining about multiple copies
 
 
   OMG, so it was.  How utterly bizarre.


 You probably got caught by my limited abilities to figure out how to
 configure Eudora to not quote email addresses in it's response.  I've
 resorted to using you in all cases because Eudora will otherwise use
 the email address if a name doesn't also exist.  Unfortunately, this
 makes quoted text in my replies a little difficult to follow in a
 thread. :-(  I'm happy to hear from anyone who has a solution for Eudora
 on this, though I plan eventually to move to a different email client
 which, ideally, won't have this problem. ;-)

FWIW:
Seems there is still something wrong with your configuration, a Reply to
All on the message (as quoted above) of yours yields
 Cygwin List; Dave Korn in the TO field (Dave shouldn't be there IMO).


That's not wrong.  A Reply to All means reply to all who were originally 
addressed.  Since the original came from David and he (apparently) didn't
set his Reply-To (which Eudora will honor) to the list (for example), he 
is correctly included in the Reply to All.


IMHO, Scrap Eudora ASAP. It seems to have some kind of bright idea on how
to quote text too - totally unreadable.


I'm sorry it doesn't work for you.  But I'm not really looking for opinions
on Eudora.  The only feedback that I'm really interested in is if anyone
knows how to configure it to better handle the OP's name in replies.  Since
this is largely off-topic, I think it's best not to prolong the thread 
unless someone here has a pointer.


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[OT] RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-12 Thread Dave Korn
 -Original Message-
 From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Larry Hall
 Sent: 12 July 2004 22:40
 To: Hannu E K Nevalainen; Cygwin List
 Subject: RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

 FWIW:
 Seems there is still something wrong with your 
 configuration, a Reply to
 All on the message (as quoted above) of yours yields
  Cygwin List; Dave Korn in the TO field (Dave shouldn't be 
 there IMO).
 
 
 That's not wrong.  A Reply to All means reply to all who 
 were originally 
 addressed.  Since the original came from David and he 
 (apparently) didn't
 set his Reply-To (which Eudora will honor) to the list (for 
 example), he 
 is correctly included in the Reply to All.

  Absolutely so.  It doesn't matter to me, Ouchlook seems to manage to
identify dupes (by the msg-id presumably) and I only see one copy anyway.
So I don't bother with Reply-To:

cheers, 
  DaveK
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RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-11 Thread Larry Hall
At 12:26 AM 7/10/2004, you wrote:

Larry, these messages are being repeated twice on the list.


Actually, no they aren't.  I haven't seen the repeats and the email archives
show one message only. 


Josh, from now on, use reply to all. And take out your email address. 


I can't see any harm in doing this.


That's
what causing the repeats.


No, it's not.  I'm not sure why you're seeing the repeats though.


Just use mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Larry Hall
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:11 PM
To: Joshua Halls; 'Cygwin List'
Subject: RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll


At 10:58 PM 7/9/2004, you wrote:
Is it just the cygwin-1.5.10-3.tar.bz2 file or do I need anything else?  I
remember hearing it is about 1.2MB in size so this sounds right.  Thanks

--Josh



That's the tarball you want.  Oh, and see http://cygwin.com/licensing.html
for specifics on the licensing.



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Re: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-11 Thread Larry Hall
At 05:04 PM 7/11/2004, you wrote
On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 12:10:59AM -0400, Larry Hall wrote:
At 10:58 PM 7/9/2004, you wrote:
Is it just the cygwin-1.5.10-3.tar.bz2 file or do I need anything else?  I
remember hearing it is about 1.2MB in size so this sounds right.  Thanks

That's the tarball you want.  Oh, and see http://cygwin.com/licensing.html
for specifics on the licensing.

Actually, you need the cygwin-1.5.10-3-src.tar.bz2 tar ball.
  


Yikes!  I guess I'm seeing what I want in some of these messages.
Thanks for the catch Chris.


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Re: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-09 Thread Larry Hall
At 06:34 PM 7/9/2004, you wrote:
Hello, I am wishing to release a version of a Mud codebase I created and
have it packaged ready to run in windows.  I am looking for the specific
files I need to have packaged up to meet the requirements for the source of
the cygwin1.dll.  Are there specific files required for the dll and do I
need to provide any other source files for any other programs or libraries
that might have been used to compile my source?  Thanks.



If your distribution uses Cygwin and you include the DLL with your 
distribution, you need the source required to build that version of the
DLL.  You can download the source for the Cygwin DLL with the binary 
package via 'setup.exe'.  However, the preferred method of distribution
is to *not* bundle the Cygwin DLL with your package but instead point
folks to the Cygwin site, with any directions/recommendations you want
to make.  This is preferred because it helps to maintain the requirement
that there be only 1 cygwin1.dll on the user's system.  Otherwise, those
who package and distribute their software separate from the Cygwin 
distribution or by means other than 'setup.exe' run the risk of generating
conflicts if users already have or will install Cygwin in the future.
All this is predicated on the notion that your package is open source
of course.



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RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-09 Thread Joshua Halls
Is it just the cygwin-1.5.10-3.tar.bz2 file or do I need anything else?  I
remember hearing it is about 1.2MB in size so this sounds right.  Thanks

--Josh

-Original Message-
From: Larry Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 7:29 PM
To: Joshua Halls; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

At 06:34 PM 7/9/2004, you wrote:
Hello, I am wishing to release a version of a Mud codebase I created and
have it packaged ready to run in windows.  I am looking for the specific
files I need to have packaged up to meet the requirements for the source of
the cygwin1.dll.  Are there specific files required for the dll and do I
need to provide any other source files for any other programs or libraries
that might have been used to compile my source?  Thanks.



If your distribution uses Cygwin and you include the DLL with your 
distribution, you need the source required to build that version of the
DLL.  You can download the source for the Cygwin DLL with the binary 
package via 'setup.exe'.  However, the preferred method of distribution
is to *not* bundle the Cygwin DLL with your package but instead point
folks to the Cygwin site, with any directions/recommendations you want
to make.  This is preferred because it helps to maintain the requirement
that there be only 1 cygwin1.dll on the user's system.  Otherwise, those
who package and distribute their software separate from the Cygwin 
distribution or by means other than 'setup.exe' run the risk of generating
conflicts if users already have or will install Cygwin in the future.
All this is predicated on the notion that your package is open source
of course.



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RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-09 Thread Larry Hall

At 10:58 PM 7/9/2004, you wrote:
Is it just the cygwin-1.5.10-3.tar.bz2 file or do I need anything else?  I
remember hearing it is about 1.2MB in size so this sounds right.  Thanks

--Josh



That's the tarball you want.  Oh, and see http://cygwin.com/licensing.html
for specifics on the licensing.



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RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll

2004-07-09 Thread Robert McNulty Junior

Larry, these messages are being repeated twice on the list.
Josh, from now on, use reply to all. And take out your email address. That's
what causing the repeats.
Just use mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Larry Hall
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:11 PM
To: Joshua Halls; 'Cygwin List'
Subject: RE: Source Code for cygwin1.dll


At 10:58 PM 7/9/2004, you wrote:
Is it just the cygwin-1.5.10-3.tar.bz2 file or do I need anything else?  I
remember hearing it is about 1.2MB in size so this sounds right.  Thanks

--Josh



That's the tarball you want.  Oh, and see http://cygwin.com/licensing.html
for specifics on the licensing.



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