Re: new Cygwin has memory problems? / cygwin1-20041117.dll

2004-11-21 Thread Lester Ingber
cygwin1-20041117.dll, which I got from www.cygwin/snapshots/, solves a
few problems, stopping hanging in dired, ispell, and updatedb.

(The crash I experienced is getting more common in XP SP2,
BAD_POOL_HEADER (www.tweaksforgeek.com/BAD_POOL_HEADER.html)).

Lester

Christopher Faylor wrote:
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is is a problem caused by this change:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-10/msg00364.html

And, then, the problem was noted here:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-10/msg00904.html

The problem is that cygwin is now behaving like linux in that timed
reads from a pty/tty work correctly.  It is not behaving like linux in
that once you get an EOF on a read using stdio, you get EOF forever
after.

I've made a cygwin-specific correction to the newlib library to make
cygwin work more like linux.  I will generate a cygwin snapshot sometime
soon which should have a fix for this problem.  Keep an ey on:

http://cygwin.com/snapshots/

cgf
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Re: new Cygwin has memory problems? / cygwin1-20041117.dll

2004-11-21 Thread Lester Ingber
cygwin1-20041117.dll, which I got from www.cygwin/snapshots/, solves a
few problems, stopping hanging in dired, ispell, and updatedb.

(The crash I experienced is getting more common in XP SP2,
BAD_POOL_HEADER (www.tweaksforgeek.com/BAD_POOL_HEADER.html)).

Lester

Christopher Faylor wrote:
8 top cut - bottom -8
is is a problem caused by this change:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-10/msg00364.html

And, then, the problem was noted here:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-10/msg00904.html

The problem is that cygwin is now behaving like linux in that timed
reads from a pty/tty work correctly.  It is not behaving like linux in
that once you get an EOF on a read using stdio, you get EOF forever
after.

I've made a cygwin-specific correction to the newlib library to make
cygwin work more like linux.  I will generate a cygwin snapshot sometime
soon which should have a fix for this problem.  Keep an ey on:

http://cygwin.com/snapshots/

cgf
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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 12:17:19PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
I've made a cygwin-specific correction to the newlib library to make
cygwin work more like linux.  I will generate a cygwin snapshot
sometime soon which should have a fix for this problem.  Keep an ey on:

http://cygwin.com/snapshots/

Can I get a confirmation that the most recent snapshot fixes this
problem?

cgf


Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-19 Thread Bobby McNulty
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 12:17:19PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
 

I've made a cygwin-specific correction to the newlib library to make
cygwin work more like linux.  I will generate a cygwin snapshot
sometime soon which should have a fix for this problem.  Keep an ey on:
http://cygwin.com/snapshots/
   

Can I get a confirmation that the most recent snapshot fixes this
problem?
cgf
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I'm building GCC 4.0..0 for cygwin out of CVS, so its working.
Doing a good job too. I've not had any problems yet out of the head.



Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 09:28:51AM -0600, Bobby McNulty wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 12:17:19PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
I've made a cygwin-specific correction to the newlib library to make
cygwin work more like linux.  I will generate a cygwin snapshot
sometime soon which should have a fix for this problem.  Keep an ey on:

http://cygwin.com/snapshots/

Can I get a confirmation that the most recent snapshot fixes this
problem?

I'm building GCC 4.0..0 for cygwin out of CVS, so its working.  Doing a
good job too.  I've not had any problems yet out of the head.

By this problem, I meant the specific problem that the snapshot was
generated to solve.  I wasn't looking for general the snapshot works
feedback.  I want to know if the reported problem is solved.


Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-19 Thread Lester Ingber
These days I'm mostly visiting the hospital.   However, it's unclear just
what snapshot to download?  I tried cygwin.dll.bz2 and my machine crashed.
I'll try to check back here again later.

Lester



Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 11:10:59AM -0800, Lester Ingber wrote:
I tried cygwin.dll.bz2 and my machine crashed.

So you have machine problems.  Well then, that's an entirely different
story.  It will be hard to confirm or deny problems if you don't have
stable hardware.

cgf



Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 12:17:19PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
I've made a cygwin-specific correction to the newlib library to make
cygwin work more like linux.  I will generate a cygwin snapshot
sometime soon which should have a fix for this problem.  Keep an ey on:

http://cygwin.com/snapshots/

Can I get a confirmation that the most recent snapshot fixes this
problem?

cgf

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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-19 Thread Bobby McNulty
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 12:17:19PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
 

I've made a cygwin-specific correction to the newlib library to make
cygwin work more like linux.  I will generate a cygwin snapshot
sometime soon which should have a fix for this problem.  Keep an ey on:
http://cygwin.com/snapshots/
   

Can I get a confirmation that the most recent snapshot fixes this
problem?
cgf
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I'm building GCC 4.0..0 for cygwin out of CVS, so its working.
Doing a good job too. I've not had any problems yet out of the head.

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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 09:28:51AM -0600, Bobby McNulty wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 12:17:19PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
I've made a cygwin-specific correction to the newlib library to make
cygwin work more like linux.  I will generate a cygwin snapshot
sometime soon which should have a fix for this problem.  Keep an ey on:

http://cygwin.com/snapshots/

Can I get a confirmation that the most recent snapshot fixes this
problem?

I'm building GCC 4.0..0 for cygwin out of CVS, so its working.  Doing a
good job too.  I've not had any problems yet out of the head.

By this problem, I meant the specific problem that the snapshot was
generated to solve.  I wasn't looking for general the snapshot works
feedback.  I want to know if the reported problem is solved.

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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 08:26:05AM -0800, Lester Ingber wrote:
I was wrong in assuming this was a cygwin base problem.  It must be a
cygwin-xfree problem.  I have no problems I can see in a cygwin console
window, only in an xterm (or rxvt) window running under
XWin -unixkill -emulate3buttons -clipboard -multiwindow -silent-dup-error 

Lester

  +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
I cannot determine why, but with the new Cygwin base I just installed,
a utility I have used for quite a few years, dired
[http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/software/file-tools.html#dired], now
freezes my window.  A `top` shows that CPU usage quickly climbs to
maximum values.

I have to guess that other utilities will have similar problems.

This is a problem caused by this change:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-10/msg00364.html

And, then, the problem was noted here:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-10/msg00904.html

The problem is that cygwin is now behaving like linux in that timed
reads from a pty/tty work correctly.  It is not behaving like linux in
that once you get an EOF on a read using stdio, you get EOF forever
after.

I've made a cygwin-specific correction to the newlib library to make
cygwin work more like linux.  I will generate a cygwin snapshot sometime
soon which should have a fix for this problem.  Keep an ey on:

http://cygwin.com/snapshots/

cgf


Re: GLX acceleration / Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-17 Thread Lester Ingber
I just saw Christopher's posting re my posting of 12 Nov, explaining
that indeed this is a Cygwin-specific problem.

Lester

  +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
Alexander:

I believe the problem to be with the new xorg files, but there are quite
a few and I don't have time to reinstall them all.  I assume I'll just
wait until the next update, but I hope the maintainers will at least
keep this potential problem in mind.

I have this CPU problem under xterm or rxvt, not only with dired,
but also with ispell under mutt in these windows.  I do not have these
problems at all (using dired or ispell under mutt) under the standard
Cygwin console window (no xorg depdendence).

I note that dired using ncurses, ans perhaos ispell under mutt might too?
Could there be some kind of new conflict with xorg utiltiies?  I have all
my Curr Cygwin files from mirrors.rcn.net up to date (omitting only
setup -- which always seems to revert to Skip when downloaded -- and
gcc-testsuite).

Thanks for the info on glxgears.

Lester

  +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
Lester Ingber wrote:

 Yes, XWin_GL seems to run OK, though I have not seen any dramatic
 speedup yet.

glxgears shows the fps and has a dramatic speedup.

 It is likely that part of this may be due to memory problems I seem to be
 having in the latest xorg downloads, with XWin and now also with XWin_GL.
 (I only seem to have these problems in xterm and rxvt, not in a Cygwin
 console window.)

 `dired` (below) freezes and other processes i other xterm windows bomb:

 19:25:05 @lester:~% top
 C:\cygwin\bin\tcsh.exe (472): *** fork: can't reserve memory for stack 
 0x3 - 0x23, Win32 error 487
   6 [main] -tcsh 2808 sync_with_child: child 472(0x67C) died before 
 initialization with status code 0x1
3423 [main] -tcsh 2808 sync_with_child: *** child state waiting for longjmp
 No more processes.

Have you tried downgrading cygwin? Are the problems still present?

bye
ago

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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 08:26:05AM -0800, Lester Ingber wrote:
I was wrong in assuming this was a cygwin base problem.  It must be a
cygwin-xfree problem.  I have no problems I can see in a cygwin console
window, only in an xterm (or rxvt) window running under
XWin -unixkill -emulate3buttons -clipboard -multiwindow -silent-dup-error 

Lester

  +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
I cannot determine why, but with the new Cygwin base I just installed,
a utility I have used for quite a few years, dired
[http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/software/file-tools.html#dired], now
freezes my window.  A `top` shows that CPU usage quickly climbs to
maximum values.

I have to guess that other utilities will have similar problems.

This is a problem caused by this change:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-10/msg00364.html

And, then, the problem was noted here:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-10/msg00904.html

The problem is that cygwin is now behaving like linux in that timed
reads from a pty/tty work correctly.  It is not behaving like linux in
that once you get an EOF on a read using stdio, you get EOF forever
after.

I've made a cygwin-specific correction to the newlib library to make
cygwin work more like linux.  I will generate a cygwin snapshot sometime
soon which should have a fix for this problem.  Keep an ey on:

http://cygwin.com/snapshots/

cgf

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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-14 Thread Doctor Bill
In regards to adding code to support coLinux, I don't see why that
would be neccessary.  coLinux doesn't need to talk to cygwin.  Except
for older versions, coLinux is not built on cygwin.

If someone is really interested, as part of the coLinux tools I wrote
set of functions for querying cygwin paths from a non-cygwin
executable.   It does so by calling a cygwin executable to convert
paths.  If the executable fails, it assumes the cygwin.dll has not
been installed.

I would not recommend adding it to cygwin, because it would be
pointless.  If you know someone has installed cygwin to install the
tool, then there is no reason not to link to the cygwin.dll directly. 
However, the tool is open source, so people are free to use it for
their non-cygwin, but cygwin compatible open source projects.

Bill


On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:38:32 -0500, Christopher Faylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 01:07:03PM +0100, Reini Urban wrote:
 
 
 Christopher Faylor schrieb:
 On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:58:00PM +0100, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
 Christopher Faylor wrote:
 Hey cool, you have top?
 
 $ top
 bash: top: command not found
 
 Where can I get it?
 
 http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=procps%2Fprocps-010801-2grep=top%5C.exe
 
 I really need to install this package, thanks.
 
 Just to fruitlessly stifle the next question from anyone else who
 has just found out about this package:
 
 No, there is no way to make top or procps display non-cygwin processes.
 
 For everything there's a way. The question is if it's worth the effort.
 
 For example I'm now seriously considering exporting a procfs to native
 windows, just to play with installable filesystems.
 
 I didn't say it was impossible.  It's not even hard.  It just doesn't
 work now.
 
 To improve mount and to get cygwin better talk to colinux.
 
 I don't think we want to add any colinux features to cygwin.  Maybe
 Corinna will disagree but I don't see any reason to add one byte of
 extra code to cygwin to handle colinux.
 
 cgf
 
 
 
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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-13 Thread Reini Urban
Christopher Faylor schrieb:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:58:00PM +0100, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
Hey cool, you have top?
$ top
bash: top: command not found
Where can I get it?
http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=procps%2Fprocps-010801-2grep=top%5C.exe
I really need to install this package, thanks.
Just to fruitlessly stifle the next question from anyone else who
has just found out about this package:
No, there is no way to make top or procps display non-cygwin processes.
For everything there's a way. The question is if it's worth the effort.
For example I'm now seriously considering exporting a procfs to native 
windows, just to play with installable filesystems.
To improve mount and to get cygwin better talk to colinux.

* http://www.insidewindows.info/
* http://sys.xiloo.com/projects/projects.htm#ext2fsd
* http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/x9224.html
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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-13 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 01:07:03PM +0100, Reini Urban wrote:
Christopher Faylor schrieb:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:58:00PM +0100, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
Hey cool, you have top?

$ top
bash: top: command not found

Where can I get it?

http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=procps%2Fprocps-010801-2grep=top%5C.exe

I really need to install this package, thanks.

Just to fruitlessly stifle the next question from anyone else who
has just found out about this package:

No, there is no way to make top or procps display non-cygwin processes.

For everything there's a way. The question is if it's worth the effort.

For example I'm now seriously considering exporting a procfs to native 
windows, just to play with installable filesystems.

I didn't say it was impossible.  It's not even hard.  It just doesn't
work now.

To improve mount and to get cygwin better talk to colinux.

I don't think we want to add any colinux features to cygwin.  Maybe
Corinna will disagree but I don't see any reason to add one byte of
extra code to cygwin to handle colinux.

cgf

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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-13 Thread Reini Urban
Christopher Faylor schrieb:
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 01:07:03PM +0100, Reini Urban wrote:
Christopher Faylor schrieb:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:58:00PM +0100, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:
Hey cool, you have top?
$ top
bash: top: command not found
Where can I get it?
http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=procps%2Fprocps-010801-2grep=top%5C.exe
I really need to install this package, thanks.
Just to fruitlessly stifle the next question from anyone else who
has just found out about this package:
No, there is no way to make top or procps display non-cygwin processes.
For everything there's a way. The question is if it's worth the effort.
For example I'm now seriously considering exporting a procfs to native 
windows, just to play with installable filesystems.
I didn't say it was impossible.  It's not even hard.  It just doesn't
work now.
To improve mount and to get cygwin better talk to colinux.
I don't think we want to add any colinux features to cygwin.  Maybe
Corinna will disagree but I don't see any reason to add one byte of
extra code to cygwin to handle colinux.
thanks. block devices have been already fixed in cygwin, so there's no need.
colinux was just an example. of course the colinux console has to be 
enhanced to work better, which could be done by using some cygwin features.

but in the context of mount if would make sense, if it wouldn't slow 
down startup time too much.
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Re: new Cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-12 Thread Lester Ingber
After seeing the posting by Christopher Faylor (posted after mine),
I checked mirrors.rcn.net (my usual default), and it seems I already
am up to date, and my problem still persists.

  +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
I was wrong in assuming this was a cygwin base problem.  It must be a
cygwin-xfree problem.  I have no problems I can see in a cygwin console
window, only in an xterm (or rxvt) window running under
XWin -unixkill -emulate3buttons -clipboard -multiwindow -silent-dup-error 

Lester

  +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
I cannot determine why, but with the new Cygwin base I just installed,
a utility I have used for quite a few years, dired
[http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/software/file-tools.html#dired], now
freezes my window.  A `top` shows that CPU usage quickly climbs to
maximum values.

I have to guess that other utilities will have similar problems.

Thanks.

Lester



Re: new Cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-12 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Lester Ingber wrote:
I cannot determine why, but with the new Cygwin base I just installed,
a utility I have used for quite a few years, dired
[http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/software/file-tools.html#dired], now
freezes my window.  A `top` shows that CPU usage quickly climbs to
maximum values.
Hey cool, you have top?
$ top
bash: top: command not found
Where can I get it?
Gerrit
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RE: new Cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-12 Thread Arijit Mukherjee
It's in the installeable packages (forgot which one) - but I have it
too...

Arijit 

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On Behalf Of Gerrit P. Haase
Sent: 12 November 2004 16:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: new Cygwin has memory problems?

Lester Ingber wrote:
 I cannot determine why, but with the new Cygwin base I just 
installed, 
 a utility I have used for quite a few years, dired 
 
[http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/software/file-tools.html#dired], now 
 freezes my window.  A `top` shows that CPU usage quickly climbs to 
 maximum values.

Hey cool, you have top?

$ top
bash: top: command not found

Where can I get it?


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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:41:31PM +0100, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
Lester Ingber wrote:
I cannot determine why, but with the new Cygwin base I just installed,
a utility I have used for quite a few years, dired
[http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/software/file-tools.html#dired], now
freezes my window.  A `top` shows that CPU usage quickly climbs to
maximum values.

Hey cool, you have top?

$ top
bash: top: command not found

Where can I get it?

http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=procps%2Fprocps-010801-2grep=top%5C.exe

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Re: new Cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-12 Thread Aaron Miller
Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
Lester Ingber wrote:
I cannot determine why, but with the new Cygwin base I just installed,
a utility I have used for quite a few years, dired
[http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/software/file-tools.html#dired], now
freezes my window.  A `top` shows that CPU usage quickly climbs to
maximum values.

Hey cool, you have top?
$ top
bash: top: command not found
Where can I get it?
Gerrit
It should be in $cygwin_root/usr/bin.
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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-12 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Christopher Faylor wrote:
Hey cool, you have top?
$ top
bash: top: command not found
Where can I get it?
http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=procps%2Fprocps-010801-2grep=top%5C.exe
I really need to install this package, thanks.
Gerrit
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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:58:00PM +0100, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:

Hey cool, you have top?

$ top
bash: top: command not found

Where can I get it?

http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=procps%2Fprocps-010801-2grep=top%5C.exe

I really need to install this package, thanks.

Just to fruitlessly stifle the next question from anyone else who
has just found out about this package:

No, there is no way to make top or procps display non-cygwin processes.

cgf

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Re: new cygwin has memory problems?

2004-11-12 Thread Karl M
From: Christopher Faylor Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: new cygwin has memory problems?
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:17:59 -0500
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:58:00PM +0100, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
Christopher Faylor wrote:

Hey cool, you have top?

$ top
bash: top: command not found

Where can I get it?

http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=procps%2Fprocps-010801-2grep=top%5C.exe

I really need to install this package, thanks.
Just to fruitlessly stifle the next question from anyone else who
has just found out about this package:
No, there is no way to make top or procps display non-cygwin processes.
cgf
So that is why all the begin winktop secretend wink hush hush...

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