Re: RPM installer needed for my PHP project
If it's running on cygwin, I wouldn't object to it being discussed here. Rob - Original Message - From: Jean-Michel POURE [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will contact you off-the-list to explain this Php project. It is big and interesting... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: RPM installer needed for my PHP project
Le Mercredi 9 Janvier 2002 17:08, vous avez écrit : Jean-Michel, On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:12:22AM +0100, Jean-Michel POURE wrote: See the following for my 4.0.2 experiences and patch: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2001-07/msg00949.html Jason Dear Jason, Are there technical problems for not including RPM in the standard Cygwin packages? Again, I will not be using Cygwin for Cygwin installation itself. But it will be of great help for other projects, including mine. This would be so fine to just type rpm --rebuild package_name.src.rpm to compile under Cygwin. Or rpm -ba spec_name to generate packages after modifying the specs. Best regards, Jean-Michel POURE -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: RPM installer needed for my PHP project
No one has offered to be a package maintainer for Bezerkly db (a pre-requisite) or rpm. Rob -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: RPM installer needed for my PHP project
Jean-Michel, On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 10:51:38AM +0100, Jean-Michel POURE wrote: Le Mercredi 9 Janvier 2002 17:08, vous avez écrit : On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:12:22AM +0100, Jean-Michel POURE wrote: See the following for my 4.0.2 experiences and patch: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2001-07/msg00949.html Are there technical problems for not including RPM in the standard Cygwin packages? No, as Rob has already indicated, someone just has to do the work for db and rpm. Sorry, I don't have that itch -- do you? Jason -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: RPM installer needed for my PHP project
Please search the mailing list archives (cygwin and cygwin-apps) where the RPM issue has been ENDLESSLY discussed. You will discover, among other things, that we have repeatedly said somebody needs to port/maintain/contribute the package and (ditto) db. Then we ask Do you want to volunteer? Then we get silence. --Chuck Jean-Michel POURE wrote: Le Mercredi 9 Janvier 2002 17:08, vous avez écrit : Jean-Michel, On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:12:22AM +0100, Jean-Michel POURE wrote: See the following for my 4.0.2 experiences and patch: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2001-07/msg00949.html Jason Dear Jason, Are there technical problems for not including RPM in the standard Cygwin packages? Again, I will not be using Cygwin for Cygwin installation itself. But it will be of great help for other projects, including mine. This would be so fine to just type rpm --rebuild package_name.src.rpm to compile under Cygwin. Or rpm -ba spec_name to generate packages after modifying the specs. Best regards, Jean-Michel POURE -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: RPM installer needed for my PHP project
Well, I just want to know - what's the thing that prevented the db package from being ported so long ? Is it extremly difficulk or it's just a matter of no one having the time/interest of doing it ? I may be interested in maintaing this package but what some details first :) Charles Wilson wrote: Please search the mailing list archives (cygwin and cygwin-apps) where the RPM issue has been ENDLESSLY discussed. You will discover, among other things, that we have repeatedly said somebody needs to port/maintain/contribute the package and (ditto) db. Then we ask Do you want to volunteer? Then we get silence. --Chuck Jean-Michel POURE wrote: Le Mercredi 9 Janvier 2002 17:08, vous avez écrit : Jean-Michel, On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:12:22AM +0100, Jean-Michel POURE wrote: See the following for my 4.0.2 experiences and patch: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2001-07/msg00949.html Jason Dear Jason, Are there technical problems for not including RPM in the standard Cygwin packages? Again, I will not be using Cygwin for Cygwin installation itself. But it will be of great help for other projects, including mine. This would be so fine to just type rpm --rebuild package_name.src.rpm to compile under Cygwin. Or rpm -ba spec_name to generate packages after modifying the specs. Best regards, Jean-Michel POURE -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: RPM installer needed for my PHP project
Jean-Michel POURE wrote: Le Vendredi 11 Janvier 2002 17:10, Charles Wilson a écrit : Please search the mailing list archives (cygwin and cygwin-apps) where the RPM issue has been ENDLESSLY discussed. You will discover, among other things, that we have repeatedly said somebody needs to port/maintain/contribute the package and (ditto) db. Then we ask Do you want to volunteer? I see your point. The problem is that I am already working on two projects : - converting PHP classes and applications to an integrated framework of RPM ready-to-use files. I need help on the RPM side at $W. - building an open source global Home Location Registry (HLR) and VLR databases for future i802.11a applications. This has nothing to do with RPM. I am too busy to maintain RPM under $W. Yep, that's pretty much what I expected. Can anyone help? I feel like Windows has no future... Overly dramatic much? I mean, long term, of course you are correct. In 4B years, our sun will explode and cook everything on earth -- and by then even MS will be extinct. db mostly builds -- as a static lib -- OOB. I've already ported db-2.7.7 and 3.1.x so that it builds as a DLL and made that available on my website and to the various people who get excited about RPM...who then dissappear. I'm not too keen on supporting something -- when even the excited users aren't motivated enough to take a PRE-EXISTING port and just maintain the damn thing. Geez -- I even ported rpm and provided it on my website. Dunno anything about db-4.x. (Oh, and given the lack of testing, there may be unresolved binary/text mount issues with my ports of db and/or rpm) It's not windows that has no future -- it's the level of participation of people who want rpm that will trend to zero. Cynical theory: Anyone who wants a cygwin port of rpm will not ever become an active contributor nor participate in cygwin development. Anyone who complains about setup.exe reinventing the wheel by using .tar.bz2 distribution formats instead of rpm/dpkg will whine bitterly for a week, and then dissappear -- and perhaps pop up with a new sourceforge project that will purport to provide cygwin with rpm that is an incomplete version of our platform. Further this cygwin-rpm-sourceforge project will die in less than six months -- but will lead to endless questions on our mailing list about this deviant and unsupported distribution. (Yes, it's happened at least twice already). Sorry if that seems bitter -- but I've observed the pattern : new poster, rpm -- WAY too many times to just shrug it off. --Chuck -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: RPM installer needed for my PHP project
Hallo Gerrit, Am 2002-01-11 um 18:59 schriebst du: Pavel, 2002-01-11 18:39:43, du schriebst: Well, I just want to know - what's the thing that prevented the db package from being ported so long ? Is it extremly difficulk or it's just a matter of no one having the time/interest of doing it ? I may be interested in maintaing this package but what some details first :) Great, there are existing ports to start with, or start with 4.x series, I have it up and running here with shared libs, no problems so far (but I use only binmode mounts on NT). The problems are with textmode mounts, FAT filesystems which needs investigation and a lots of testing. db-4.0 builds OOB with static libs and it is no issue to create a .dll from a shared lib with: ^ Nonono, from a static lib, to create a shared lib you need the static lib or at least the object files. gcc -shared -o cyg${module}.dll -Wl,--out-implib=lib${module}.dll.a -Wl,--export-all-symbols -Wl,--enable-auto-import -Wl,--whole-archive $old_lib -Wl,--no-whole-archive ${dependency_libs} I use it every day. Instead of -Wl,--whole-archive $old_lib you can also take the single objects list to build a .dll. What will last a 'little' longer is testing and debugging and patching to get it run on Win98 with the FAT fs and to make it useable on textmode mounts. Take a look at an existing port and what was done there: ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/pc/gnuwin32/cygwin/porters/Wilson_Charles_S/michael-ring/ Gerrit -- =^..^=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: RPM installer needed for my PHP project
jm.poure Has anyone successfully ported RPM to Cygwin? Please note this is not for jm.poure Cygwin installation itself. I had ported RPM 3.0.6 to Cygwin. Please see http://www.sixnine.net/cygwin/. I have been managing cygwin packages from Cygwin 1.1, but no trouble in my life with this rpm.exe. -- Rue. SATOH -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/