Re: How to force Setup.exe to behave?

2004-05-17 Thread Errol Smith
Lex Ein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please help me figure out how to get Setup.exe to STOP TRYING TO INSTALL
X.
Setup.exe won't stop trying to snag unnecessary components.
What file(s) to I have to edit manually to make this happen?  
What can I manually delete?
It's a remote system, so I can't uninstall Cygwin without losing control.

 I had this same problem (seemed to appear along with Xorg replacing Xfree but I could 
be wrong). I examined every application I had installed for requiring X and couldnt' 
find anything.
 Unfortunately the only way I managed to fix it was to completely remove cygwin and 
reinstall.
 If you can't uninstall cygwin, I suggest you do a install from local directory rather 
than install from internet - that way you can control what files are available. You 
would of course have to manually update any files from an ftp server..
 It setup had a column required by that listed what each package was a dependancy of 
- that would make it easy to find these kind of issues. (that or a dependancy tree).

Regards, Errol

btw, it would be great if SETUP.EXE would cache setup.bz2. That way it could check the 
server for a newer version and not download it if not required (date/filesize matched 
or similar).
(hey, even 70k takes a while on a modem!)



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Re: How to force Setup.exe to behave?

2004-05-16 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 04:20:34PM -0700, Lex Ein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nine days ago, this was Using Setup.exe to uninstall -bogus.
 
 Please help me figure out how to get Setup.exe to STOP TRYING TO INSTALL
 X.
 Setup.exe won't stop trying to snag unnecessary components.
 What file(s) to I have to edit manually to make this happen?  
 What can I manually delete?
 It's a remote system, so I can't uninstall Cygwin without losing control.
 
 Little help?
 
 On Fri, 07 May 2004 19:16:54 -0700, Lex Ein [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  If there exists a sensible method for trimming the bulk of an existing
  Cygwin installation on a running disk-limited REMOTE system accessible
  only via ssh, I'd love to know it.  I've completely lost patience.
  
  On a remote system, I've been trying to uninstall large chunks of Cygwin
  (x, db). Using Setup.exe to do this is like playing Whack-a-Mole, and is
  extremely frustrating.
  
  The Keep | Reinstall | Source | Version1 | Version2...| Uninstall
  click-to-rotate control forces dependancies both far and near while I'm
  trying to _reach_ Uninstall.  Uninstall LEAVES THOSE DEPENDANCIES
  ACTIVATED.  
  
  Without a way to select Uninstall without clocking through all the other
  dependancy activators, it's impossible to remove features and all their
  dependancies stickily.
  
  In fact, the very process of trying to do this piece by piece has
  resulted in masses of other crap being installed which I don't need. 
  It's rather disturbing, as I'm running out of space on the remote system.

Toggle to the Partial view and turn off the dependancies you don't want?

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Re: How to force Setup.exe to behave?

2004-05-16 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 09:20, Lex Ein wrote:
 Nine days ago, this was Using Setup.exe to uninstall -bogus.
 

Setup is only bringing in X because something you have installed
requires it.

It's possible that there is a circular dependency loop within the X
programs themselves, and if so you may (at least Right Now) be out of
luck for your uninstallation needs.

However, the partial view as another poster has suggested is probably
the best way to tackle this. And I'd suggest you compare what you want
installed vs what you have installed with the setup.ini from the mirror
you are using - you should be able to spot the culprit that is dragging
the X packages in.

My WAG is that a package you *want* wants X.

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Re: How to force Setup.exe to behave?

2004-05-16 Thread Karl M
Hi All...
I ran into a circular dependency with X as well. I temporarily installed 
something that wanted it and then later removed the original package. I 
tried a couple of times to remove X and gave up. (It doesn't take that much 
disk to worry about and I'll take care of it on my next clean install.)

HTH,
...Karl

From: Robert Collins
To: Lex Ein
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to force Setup.exe to behave?
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 09:49:45 +1000
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 09:20, Lex Ein wrote:
 Nine days ago, this was Using Setup.exe to uninstall -bogus.

Setup is only bringing in X because something you have installed
requires it.
It's possible that there is a circular dependency loop within the X
programs themselves, and if so you may (at least Right Now) be out of
luck for your uninstallation needs.
However, the partial view as another poster has suggested is probably
the best way to tackle this. And I'd suggest you compare what you want
installed vs what you have installed with the setup.ini from the mirror
you are using - you should be able to spot the culprit that is dragging
the X packages in.
My WAG is that a package you *want* wants X.
Rob
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Re: How to force Setup.exe to behave?

2004-05-16 Thread A . Alper Atici
On Sun, 16 May 2004 16:20:34 -0700, Lex Ein wrote:

Nine days ago, this was Using Setup.exe to uninstall -bogus.

Please help me figure out how to get Setup.exe to STOP TRYING TO INSTALL
X.

You need to figure out the package(s) installed depending on X.

Attached is a list of packages that have the string XFree or xorg
in their requires: line in setup.ini 
Save the list to a file, say, xlist.txt
Then, run the following command to see installed packages depending on
X:

$ cut -d' ' -f1 /etc/setup/installed.db | comm -12 - xlist.txt



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GraphicsMagick
ImageMagick
TeXmacs
WindowMaker
X-start-menu-icons
X-startup-scripts
XFree86-base
XFree86-bin
XFree86-etc
XFree86-f100
XFree86-fcyr
XFree86-fenc
XFree86-fnts
XFree86-fscl
XFree86-fsrv
XFree86-html
XFree86-lib
XFree86-lib-compat
XFree86-man
XFree86-nest
XFree86-prog
XFree86-prt
XFree86-vfb
XFree86-xserv
Xaw3d
cgoban
ddd
emacs-X11
fvwm
gd
ghostscript-x11
gnuplot
grace
gv
lesstif
libGraphicsMagick-devel
libGraphicsMagick0
libMagick-devel
libMagick6
libXft
libXft-devel
libXft1
libXft2
libgd-devel
libgd2
libungif
nedit
openbox
tcm
tetex-x11
transfig
x2x
x3270
xemacs
xfig
xfig-base
xfig-bin
xgraph
xorg-x11-base
xorg-x11-bin
xorg-x11-bin-dlls
xorg-x11-devel
xorg-x11-etc
xorg-x11-f100
xorg-x11-fcyr
xorg-x11-fenc
xorg-x11-fnts
xorg-x11-fscl
xorg-x11-fsrv
xorg-x11-libs-data
xorg-x11-nest
xorg-x11-vfb
xorg-x11-xwin
xorg-x11-xwin-gl
xterm
xwinclip
xwinwm

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