Re: Norton Internet Security and Cygwin: What settings for NIS? *** SOLUTION *** ???
First of all, many thanks to all you who have pitched in to help me out. I followed Rene's advice and added 'hostname.exe' to the NIS 'allowed' list. I found that things moved along, but got stuck at 'uname'(should have expected that to happen!). So I added 'uname.exe' to NIS's list. And, lo and behold, everything seemed right. Then I tried 'vi' and it hung. By some stroke of luck I discovered that I had to logoff NIS. In my set up, from Dell, users are logged into NIS at Startup (do not know why). It is not just the firewall coming up, but the user is logged into the Norton account. If I just logoff the account and leave the firewall on, things seem to work. I will try some more things when I have time. One last question (and we may change the thread). All this is because I want to use 'cdrecord' from Joerg Schilling on my PC. Is there a package available? I am brand new to Cygwin and am not sure how one mine's the stuff -- I apologise for these simplistic questions. Thanks again to all of you. sj __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Norton Internet Security and Cygwin: What settings for NIS? *** SOLUTION *** ???
surendar jeyadev wrote: [snip] One last question (and we may change the thread). All this is because I want to use 'cdrecord' from Joerg Schilling on my PC. Is there a package available? I am brand new to Cygwin and am not sure how one mine's the stuff -- No, no package, but there is one available for Cygwin: Look for cdrecord-prodvd-2.01a11-i586-pc-cygwin.exe or a more recent version (this was from 2003). -- René Berber -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Norton Internet Security and Cygwin: What settings for NIS?
René Berber wrote: surendar jeyadev wrote: [snip] I have to try one more thing -- turn of Norton and unplug the cable. But there is something very fishy going one. When I tried to launch Cygwin a few minutes ago, Norton popped up a message saying 'hostname.exe is trying to contact DNS server'. Bingo! hostname is called from /etc/csh.cshrc and /etc/profile.d/complete.tcsh, are you using csh or tcsh? That would explain what is going on. The solution would be to add hostname.exe to the list of programs allowed to use the Internet (Windows firewall) or open the respective port (53 if it's using DNS). HTH Beyond that, hostname.exe is used to resolve the network name of the machine (the hostname, funnily enough ;) This will try to contact DNS servers if it needs to, and norton will block this by default for any app you don't allow.. It's not the only cygwin app that will do so either.. However, following René's suggestion will sort things so that you can start cygwin, or should at least. I should point out that hostname is called in /etc/profile for bash as well ( HOSTNAME=`hostname` -- should this be being changed to HOSTNAME=$(hostname) at some point soon?) Hopefully this sorts it for yourself though - as for cygwin setup - add it to the allowed applications (at the very least, it needs DNS (53), http (80) and FTP (21) to guarantee it will work with the various mirrors) Chris -- Spinning complacently in the darkness, covered and blinded by a blanket of little lives, false security has lulled the madness of this world into a slumber. Wake up! An eye is upon you, staring straight down and keenly through, seeing all that you are and everything that you will never be. Yes, an eye is upon you, an eye ready to blink. So face forward, with arms wide open and mind reeling. Your future has arrived... Are you ready to go? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Norton Internet Security and Cygwin: What settings for NIS?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Chris Taylor on 11/28/2005 3:13 AM: I should point out that hostname is called in /etc/profile for bash as well ( HOSTNAME=`hostname` -- should this be being changed to HOSTNAME=$(hostname) at some point soon?) There is no difference in this case (both command substitution spellings are required by POSIX), and `hostname` is more portable to older shells than $(hostname). However, since all bourne-compatible shells distributed with cygwin support the newer syntax, and the newer syntax is more readable, as well as easier to nest, it wouldn't hurt if base-files were updated to use $() instead of ``. - -- Life is short - so eat dessert first! Eric Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Cygwin) Comment: Public key at home.comcast.net/~ericblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDiwWL84KuGfSFAYARAo1BAJwLm55Pvqs6qEpNqTHue6aTkVbMTQCdGMo5 nnmsNgwj3+WrdKg1Y9IBFjQ= =Q96s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Norton Internet Security and Cygwin: What settings for NIS?
Eric Blake wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Chris Taylor on 11/28/2005 3:13 AM: I should point out that hostname is called in /etc/profile for bash as well ( HOSTNAME=`hostname` -- should this be being changed to HOSTNAME=$(hostname) at some point soon?) There is no difference in this case (both command substitution spellings are required by POSIX), and `hostname` is more portable to older shells than $(hostname). However, since all bourne-compatible shells distributed with cygwin support the newer syntax, and the newer syntax is more readable, as well as easier to nest, it wouldn't hurt if base-files were updated to use $() instead of ``. The reason I mentioned it is that I'm told that the `` syntax is deprecated (and has been for some time), at least in scripts, ergo it makes sense to be moving to the newer one.. You're right though, it is a lot easier to read and nest, and vastly easier to read it when nested.. Chris -- Spinning complacently in the darkness, covered and blinded by a blanket of little lives, false security has lulled the madness of this world into a slumber. Wake up! An eye is upon you, staring straight down and keenly through, seeing all that you are and everything that you will never be. Yes, an eye is upon you, an eye ready to blink. So face forward, with arms wide open and mind reeling. Your future has arrived... Are you ready to go? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Norton Internet Security and Cygwin: What settings for NIS?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Chris Taylor on 11/28/2005 6:30 AM: The reason I mentioned it is that I'm told that the `` syntax is deprecated (and has been for some time), at least in scripts, ergo it makes sense to be moving to the newer one.. You're right though, it is a lot easier to read and nest, and vastly easier to read it when nested.. Nope - POSIX has not deprecated ``. See http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html#tag_02_06_03. And portable scripts, per the rules in the autoconf documentation, MUST use `` instead of $(). Based on the body of existing scripts that use ``, I doubt that POSIX will ever deprecate ``. - -- Life is short - so eat dessert first! Eric Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Cygwin) Comment: Public key at home.comcast.net/~ericblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDiwml84KuGfSFAYARAkb+AJ0Sv6NwVQ7Lo02gNlLHfigVjTwlBwCfcB2k AHlzL06al9DPVq2F9+3jtL4= =JIju -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Norton Internet Security and Cygwin: What settings for NIS?
Eric Blake wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Chris Taylor on 11/28/2005 6:30 AM: The reason I mentioned it is that I'm told that the `` syntax is deprecated (and has been for some time), at least in scripts, ergo it makes sense to be moving to the newer one.. You're right though, it is a lot easier to read and nest, and vastly easier to read it when nested.. Nope - POSIX has not deprecated ``. See http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html#tag_02_06_03. And portable scripts, per the rules in the autoconf documentation, MUST use `` instead of $(). Based on the body of existing scripts that use ``, I doubt that POSIX will ever deprecate ``. Fair enough :) I shall reeducate my friend on that point then. Chris -- Spinning complacently in the darkness, covered and blinded by a blanket of little lives, false security has lulled the madness of this world into a slumber. Wake up! An eye is upon you, staring straight down and keenly through, seeing all that you are and everything that you will never be. Yes, an eye is upon you, an eye ready to blink. So face forward, with arms wide open and mind reeling. Your future has arrived... Are you ready to go? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Norton Internet Security and Cygwin: What settings for NIS?
surendar jeyadev jeyadev3 at yahoo.com writes: snip But, I need to be completely exposed. Even if I turn on NIS after the shell initialises, it freezes and does not unfreeze. So, my questions: 1. What are the recommended settings for Norton? 2. Why is a connection to the Internet needed at all? Should I not be able to work as a stand alone machine? It appears that Cygwin is attempting to contact a server. 3. Are there shell/environmental variables that I have to set to make it work as a stand alone installation? snip I am having a similar problem and so far have no solution. But my circumstances are slightly different and might suggest, if the underlying problem is the same, that the problem resides in another direction. I am running Windows 2000 Professional and Norton AntiVirus 2003 Professional. I am connected to the internet and was running a Cygwin upgrade directly from the Cygwin site last night. The install keeps freezing and the log indicates a problem with McShield. Specifically, Could not open service McShield for query, start and stop. McAfee may not be installed, or we don't have access.. I do not believe McAfee has every been on this box. I tried dissabling both Auto-Protect and Script Blocking in Norton without luck. If our problems are the same, this is not a network issues. I should note that I did a complete from-scratch install of Cygwin on my brother's Windows XP box last night without any problem. I am not certain of his anti-virus protection and he is back on the road headed home this morning so I can't ask. Hope this is helpful and that someone has an idea. Happy Holidays, Brett -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Norton Internet Security and Cygwin: What settings for NIS?
Brett blb-2 at adelphia.net writes: snip I am having a similar problem and so far have no solution. snip Specifically, Could not open service McShield for query, start and stop. McAfee may not be installed, or we don't have access.. snip Some more info: I am behind a LynkSys WRT54GS Router/Firewall and my install logs finish with: 2005/11/26 19:55:43 Running preremove script for gcc-mingw-ada 2005/11/26 19:55:43 running: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -c /etc/preremove/gcc-mingw-ada.sh 2005/11/26 21:00:22 Ending cygwin install The installer will show the preremove step for many hours without progress. Thanks, Brett -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Norton Internet Security and Cygwin: What settings for NIS?
--- Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having a similar problem and so far have no solution. But my circumstances are slightly different and might suggest, if the underlying problem is the same, that the problem resides in another direction. I am running Windows 2000 Professional and Norton AntiVirus 2003 Professional. I am connected to the internet and was running a Cygwin upgrade directly from the Cygwin site last night. The install keeps freezing and the log indicates a problem with McShield. Specifically, Could not open service McShield for query, start and stop. McAfee may not be installed, or we don't have access.. I do not believe McAfee has every been on this box. I tried Apparently, this is not a problem. Larry Hall replied to one of my earlier problems -- not being able to install Cygwin at all, which seems to be your case -- saying this was normal. I quote him below: These messages are no problem. Setup checks for McAfee because it is known to cause setup problems. As the message notes, McAfee may not be installed,..., which is true in your case. dissabling both Auto-Protect and Script Blocking in Norton without luck. If our problems are the same, this is not a network issues. I should note that I did a complete from-scratch install of Cygwin on my brother's Windows XP box last night without any problem. I am not certain of his anti-virus protection and he is back on the road headed home this morning so I can't ask. Hope this is helpful and that someone has an idea. I have to try one more thing -- turn of Norton and unplug the cable. But there is something very fishy going one. When I tried to launch Cygwin a few minutes ago, Norton popped up a message saying 'hostname.exe is trying to contact DNS server'. Would anyone have an idea why a DNS sever is being contacted? It *appears* that my set up is behaving not only as a network set up, but the the modem/Norton combination is coming into play. I do not know what the modem is -- it was installed by Roadrunner and has no name on it! As my machine is very much an out of the box, plain XP from Dell, I would guess that this should not be an unusual case. But, maybe it is not :-) thanks sj __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Norton Internet Security and Cygwin: What settings for NIS?
If I remember right (It's been a while - I don't update often) I have to disable NIS firewall to run (cygwin) setup. After setup I am able to run cygwin with firewall enabled. Dennis J. Darland Treasurer of the Bertrand Russell Society, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Solve Systems of Ordinary Differential Equations (Sode) (It's a free, open source, program. - Homepage) http://sode.sourceforge.net surendar jeyadev wrote: --- Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having a similar problem and so far have no solution. But my circumstances are slightly different and might suggest, if the underlying problem is the same, that the problem resides in another direction. I am running Windows 2000 Professional and Norton AntiVirus 2003 Professional. I am connected to the internet and was running a Cygwin upgrade directly from the Cygwin site last night. The install keeps freezing and the log indicates a problem with McShield. Specifically, Could not open service McShield for query, start and stop. McAfee may not be installed, or we don't have access.. I do not believe McAfee has every been on this box. I tried Apparently, this is not a problem. Larry Hall replied to one of my earlier problems -- not being able to install Cygwin at all, which seems to be your case -- saying this was normal. I quote him below: These messages are no problem. Setup checks for McAfee because it is known to cause setup problems. As the message notes, McAfee may not be installed,..., which is true in your case. dissabling both Auto-Protect and Script Blocking in Norton without luck. If our problems are the same, this is not a network issues. I should note that I did a complete from-scratch install of Cygwin on my brother's Windows XP box last night without any problem. I am not certain of his anti-virus protection and he is back on the road headed home this morning so I can't ask. Hope this is helpful and that someone has an idea. I have to try one more thing -- turn of Norton and unplug the cable. But there is something very fishy going one. When I tried to launch Cygwin a few minutes ago, Norton popped up a message saying 'hostname.exe is trying to contact DNS server'. Would anyone have an idea why a DNS sever is being contacted? It *appears* that my set up is behaving not only as a network set up, but the the modem/Norton combination is coming into play. I do not know what the modem is -- it was installed by Roadrunner and has no name on it! As my machine is very much an out of the box, plain XP from Dell, I would guess that this should not be an unusual case. But, maybe it is not :-) thanks sj __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Norton Internet Security and Cygwin: What settings for NIS?
surendar jeyadev wrote: [snip] I have to try one more thing -- turn of Norton and unplug the cable. But there is something very fishy going one. When I tried to launch Cygwin a few minutes ago, Norton popped up a message saying 'hostname.exe is trying to contact DNS server'. Bingo! hostname is called from /etc/csh.cshrc and /etc/profile.d/complete.tcsh, are you using csh or tcsh? That would explain what is going on. The solution would be to add hostname.exe to the list of programs allowed to use the Internet (Windows firewall) or open the respective port (53 if it's using DNS). HTH -- René Berber -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
