Re: Perl 5.14.2 seems to expect gcc-4
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Achim Gratz wrote: > Reini Urban writes: >> Please don't spread fud. Self-compiled cpan packages are always >> favored over vendor packages. See your @INC. > > I really meant packages, of the Cygwin variant (I've got cygport > definitions for all of them and posted a link to them over in > cygwin-apps). Managing dependencies with an opaque blob like > perl_vendor seemed more trouble than creating some 240 or so packages > that include all that are in perl_vendor, but one package for each > distribution (and an umbrella package for installing them all in one > go). I would be happy to assign it over to you if you are happy with it. I have no time to maintain hundreds of packages which change monthly. -- Reini Urban http://cpanel.net/ http://www.perl-compiler.org/ -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Perl 5.14.2 seems to expect gcc-4
Reini Urban writes: > Please don't spread fud. Self-compiled cpan packages are always > favored over vendor packages. See your @INC. I really meant packages, of the Cygwin variant (I've got cygport definitions for all of them and posted a link to them over in cygwin-apps). Managing dependencies with an opaque blob like perl_vendor seemed more trouble than creating some 240 or so packages that include all that are in perl_vendor, but one package for each distribution (and an umbrella package for installing them all in one go). Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Perl 5.14.2 seems to expect gcc-4
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Achim Gratz wrote: > Aaron Schneider writes: >> Since a lot of people are having issues because 'perl_vendor' is not >> installed when should, wouldn't be better to set perl_vendor as a >> mandatory dependency of perl so just everyone gets it installed? I >> guess package size won't be an issue. > No, please don't — I have compiled my own perl packages and need > perl_vendor to stay out of the way. If anything this would be a hint > that hiding packages in perl_vendor, while helping to keep the number of > packages down, doesn't help people finding what they need. I agree on the not hiding packages in perl_vendor part. Once I realized that I was missing XML::LibXML, I checked whether it was available and, finding that it for some reason wasn’t (anymore, I thought, as I had used it previously with Perl 5.10), went the cpan route, which led me down the rabbit’s hole. It’s impossible to know what the perl_vendor package contains unless you actually install it. Split it up, make XML::LibXML available as a separate package and add its dependencies. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Perl 5.14.2 seems to expect gcc-4
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Achim Gratz wrote: > Aaron Schneider writes: >> Since a lot of people are having issues because 'perl_vendor' is not >> installed when should, wouldn't be better to set perl_vendor as a >> mandatory dependency of perl so just everyone gets it installed? I >> guess package size won't be an issue. > > No, please don't — I have compiled my own perl packages and need > perl_vendor to stay out of the way. If anything this would be a hint > that hiding packages in perl_vendor, while helping to keep the number of > packages down, doesn't help people finding what they need. Please don't spread fud. Self-compiled cpan packages are always favored over vendor packages. See your @INC. -- Reini Urban http://cpanel.net/ http://www.perl-compiler.org/ -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Perl 5.14.2 seems to expect gcc-4
Aaron Schneider writes: > Since a lot of people are having issues because 'perl_vendor' is not > installed when should, wouldn't be better to set perl_vendor as a > mandatory dependency of perl so just everyone gets it installed? I > guess package size won't be an issue. No, please don't — I have compiled my own perl packages and need perl_vendor to stay out of the way. If anything this would be a hint that hiding packages in perl_vendor, while helping to keep the number of packages down, doesn't help people finding what they need. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptation for Waldorf Blofeld V1.15B11: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Perl 5.14.2 seems to expect gcc-4
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Aaron Schneider wrote: > On 01/08/2012 19:46, Reini Urban wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Matt Seitz (matseitz) wrote: >>> >>> Did Cygwin "setup.exe" prompt you to install the "gcc-4" package when you >>> updated perl? >>> >>> I thought "setup.exe" would prompt the user if any additional packages >>> needed to be installed. >> >> >> no. gcc-4, make and more are not automatically installed with perl. >> you will only need when you compile your own XS packages with cpan. >> >> XML::LibXML is included in the new package perl_vendor >> > > Since a lot of people are having issues because 'perl_vendor' is not > installed when should, wouldn't be better to set perl_vendor as a mandatory > dependency of perl so just everyone gets it installed? I guess package size > won't be an issue. Sure. But Yakoov explicitly wanted a perl independent from perl_vendor. Yakoov? -- Reini Urban http://cpanel.net/ http://www.perl-compiler.org/ -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Perl 5.14.2 seems to expect gcc-4
On 01/08/2012 19:46, Reini Urban wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Matt Seitz (matseitz) wrote: Did Cygwin "setup.exe" prompt you to install the "gcc-4" package when you updated perl? I thought "setup.exe" would prompt the user if any additional packages needed to be installed. no. gcc-4, make and more are not automatically installed with perl. you will only need when you compile your own XS packages with cpan. XML::LibXML is included in the new package perl_vendor Since a lot of people are having issues because 'perl_vendor' is not installed when should, wouldn't be better to set perl_vendor as a mandatory dependency of perl so just everyone gets it installed? I guess package size won't be an issue. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Perl 5.14.2 seems to expect gcc-4
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Matt Seitz (matseitz) wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Nikolai Weibull wrote: >> > >> > Cygwin updated perl to 5.14.2 on my system and now I can’t compile >> > XML::LibXML. It seems that >> > >> > c:\lib\perl5\5.14\i686-cygwin-threads-64int\Config.pm >> > >> > expects cc to be gcc-4. Gcc-4 doesn’t exist yet, it seems. What’s >> > going on here? >> >> Sorry, scratch that, gcc-4 is available. I got confused by the separate >> version schemes (which I realize are necessary, but easy to miss when >> you’re a bit stressed out.) > > Did Cygwin "setup.exe" prompt you to install the "gcc-4" package when you > updated perl? > > I thought "setup.exe" would prompt the user if any additional packages needed > to be installed. no. gcc-4, make and more are not automatically installed with perl. you will only need when you compile your own XS packages with cpan. XML::LibXML is included in the new package perl_vendor -- Reini Urban http://cpanel.net/ http://www.perl-compiler.org/ -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Perl 5.14.2 seems to expect gcc-4
On 8/1/2012 11:46 AM, Matt Seitz (matseitz) wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Nikolai Weibull wrote: Cygwin updated perl to 5.14.2 on my system and now I can’t compile XML::LibXML. It seems that c:\lib\perl5\5.14\i686-cygwin-threads-64int\Config.pm expects cc to be gcc-4. Gcc-4 doesn’t exist yet, it seems. What’s going on here? Sorry, scratch that, gcc-4 is available. I got confused by the separate version schemes (which I realize are necessary, but easy to miss when you’re a bit stressed out.) Did Cygwin "setup.exe" prompt you to install the "gcc-4" package when you updated perl? I thought "setup.exe" would prompt the user if any additional packages needed to be installed. It does this for run-time dependencies, not build-time. -- Larry _ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
RE: Perl 5.14.2 seems to expect gcc-4
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Nikolai Weibull wrote: > > > > Cygwin updated perl to 5.14.2 on my system and now I can’t compile > > XML::LibXML. It seems that > > > > c:\lib\perl5\5.14\i686-cygwin-threads-64int\Config.pm > > > > expects cc to be gcc-4. Gcc-4 doesn’t exist yet, it seems. What’s > > going on here? > > Sorry, scratch that, gcc-4 is available. I got confused by the separate > version schemes (which I realize are necessary, but easy to miss when > you’re a bit stressed out.) Did Cygwin "setup.exe" prompt you to install the "gcc-4" package when you updated perl? I thought "setup.exe" would prompt the user if any additional packages needed to be installed.
Re: Perl 5.14.2 seems to expect gcc-4
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Nikolai Weibull wrote: > Hi! > > Cygwin updated perl to 5.14.2 on my system and now I can’t compile > XML::LibXML. It seems that > > c:\lib\perl5\5.14\i686-cygwin-threads-64int\Config.pm > > expects cc to be gcc-4. Gcc-4 doesn’t exist yet, it seems. What’s > going on here? Sorry, scratch that, gcc-4 is available. I got confused by the separate version schemes (which I realize are necessary, but easy to miss when you’re a bit stressed out.) -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
