Re: Setup hangs repetedly
Martin Magnusson wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Does it hang in the middle of installing a package, or between packages? It varies. Now I have actually managed to install the basic Cygwin packages (everything set to default, no compilers or anything). It worked on the second attempt. But I'm still struggling, trying to add gcc and such (from my local directory). After I installed the basics I ran setup-2.303 again, and only checked the Devel category. The first time it hung when starting to install doxygen, and the second time it hung in the middle of /usr/.../texinfo.tex. Does the MD5sum check go OK? Yes, all of the MD5sum checks go OK. I also just scanned my hard drives again (including the free space) with NDD, and it didn't report any problems. I'm out of ideas. I'm sorry, I can't think of any problem that could cause this. If you can install gdb, and use it on debug build of setup, you might turn up something. I don't know. Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
Hi, I'm getting the same sort of problems:- compress+bz::error calls + blank chooser lines and various hangs. I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use. Colin -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
Martin Magnusson wrote: I have used Cygwin for a few months now. I'm trying to reinstall it with a couple of extra packages, but I've run into serious trouble. Downloading seems to work fine, but while installing setup just hangs, randomly (with no error message). When looking at setup.log I see a lot of calls to compress_bz::error. Is that normal? Yes. The compress_bz class lacks any error handling. That log message is basically a loud fixme. Please describe exactly where setup hangs. Does it hang if you download only first, and then re-run setup, choosing install from local directory? Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
Colin Harrison wrote: Hi, I'm getting the same sort of problems:- compress+bz::error calls + blank chooser lines and various hangs. I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use. You might like to consider that many *many* people use Cygwin and don't have these problems. In fact, I'd characterize it as release-quality. Bugs happen, but they happen rarely. I'm sorry you have problems, but you might like to bear in mind that you have provided very little information concerning what your problem is. We are not clairvoyant. I do not experience this problem, and I do not recall any previous reports of anything like it. We have no hope of fixing a bug, when we don't even know exactly what it is. If you are fed up with Cygwin, fine. If you want to try and get this bug fixed, I suggest you post a link to a screenshot of the problem. If you don't have any suitable webspace, then email it directly to me - *not the list*. Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
Max Bowsher wrote: Please describe exactly where setup hangs. It happens after download, during install. But it hangs at different files each time. Somtimes it hangs at 4%, sometimes at 29% etc. Does it hang if you download only first, and then re-run setup, choosing install from local directory? Yes, same problem when I do it that way. / Martin -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Martin Magnusson wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Please describe exactly where setup hangs. It happens after download, during install. But it hangs at different files each time. Somtimes it hangs at 4%, sometimes at 29% etc. Does it hang if you download only first, and then re-run setup, choosing install from local directory? Yes, same problem when I do it that way. Now this is a hell of a bugreport... Would you care to be more specific ? What choices do you make on the various pages of the setup wizard. What does it mean hang for you ? Is it that the setup application just sits and waits for a very long time without progressing at all or maybe it just crashes ? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
Pavel Tsekov wrote: On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Martin Magnusson wrote: Max Bowsher wrote: Please describe exactly where setup hangs. It happens after download, during install. But it hangs at different files each time. Somtimes it hangs at 4%, sometimes at 29% etc. Does it hang if you download only first, and then re-run setup, choosing install from local directory? Yes, same problem when I do it that way. Now this is a hell of a bugreport... Would you care to be more specific ? What choices do you make on the various pages of the setup wizard. What does it mean hang for you ? Is it that the setup application just sits and waits for a very long time without progressing at all or maybe it just crashes ? In the past, when I've had inconsistent problems with setup n' such, they seem to go away when I discover and get rid of lost and cross linked clusters. I have had virtually no problem with setup since I started scanning my hard drives more frequently and eliminating said clusters. Just an idea to look at. Regards, L Anderson -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
Pavel Tsekov wrote: Now this is a hell of a bugreport... Would you care to be more specific ? What choices do you make on the various pages of the setup wizard. * First, either Install from Internet or Install from Local Directory. * Then I specify the root directory (same as I used to have when it worked), Install For All Users, Default Text File Type: Unix. * At Select You Internet Connection I choose Direct Connection. I usually download from ftp.sunet.se, but I have tried a couple of other servers too. * At Select Packages, I leave everythnig as Default, except the Devel category, the Publishing category and Graphics/OpenGL, where I choose Install. What does it mean hang for you ? Is it that the setup application just sits and waits for a very long time without progressing at all Exactly. It is not unresponsive though. I can still cancel it gracefully, but it doesn't do anything. I have left it on for an hour after it seems to hang, just to confirm that it isn't just progressing slowly. I did scan my hard drives (as suggested by L Anderson) with Norton Disk Doctor a couple of days ago, but I'm doing it again now. I'll post again if that fixes the problem. / Martin -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
Martin Magnusson wrote: * First, either Install from Internet or Install from Local Directory. * Then I specify the root directory (same as I used to have when it worked), Install For All Users, Default Text File Type: Unix. * At Select You Internet Connection I choose Direct Connection. I usually download from ftp.sunet.se, but I have tried a couple of other servers too. * At Select Packages, I leave everythnig as Default, except the Devel category, the Publishing category and Graphics/OpenGL, where I choose Install. What does it mean hang for you ? Is it that the setup application just sits and waits for a very long time without progressing at all Exactly. It is not unresponsive though. I can still cancel it gracefully, but it doesn't do anything. I have left it on for an hour after it seems to hang, just to confirm that it isn't just progressing slowly. Does it hang in the middle of installing a package, or between packages? Have you tried setup-2.303 (if not, do)? Does the MD5sum check go OK? (When you choose install from local directory). Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:05:37PM +, Colin Harrison wrote: I'm getting the same sort of problems:- compress+bz::error calls + blank chooser lines and various hangs. I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use. Phew. That's a relief. With this attitude, I can only imagine the scenario when it was time to set up ssh or change the prompt in bash. B... cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use. Phew. That's a relief. With this attitude, I can only imagine the scenario when it was time to set up ssh or change the prompt in bash. B... cgf LOL!!! I can't believe I've been using alpha's for all this time with knowone telling me ;-) Regards, Elfyn McBratney [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.exposure.org.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
Oh, Chris, Face it. The whole concept of software is pre-alpha and definitely not for the faint of heart. But just imagine the songs and epic poems that will be written to honor us, the brave pioneers of these first, archaic, nay even dangerous computers. Will anybody remember the cowards who couldn't even brave a simple Cygwin installation without running screaming in terror? Of course not. Now, back to my battle with the omnipresent demons of information chaos. They lurk everywhere! Randall At 10:49 2003-02-01, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:05:37PM +, Colin Harrison wrote: I'm getting the same sort of problems:- compress+bz::error calls + blank chooser lines and various hangs. I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use. Phew. That's a relief. With this attitude, I can only imagine the scenario when it was time to set up ssh or change the prompt in bash. B... cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
Max Bowsher wrote: Does it hang in the middle of installing a package, or between packages? It varies. Now I have actually managed to install the basic Cygwin packages (everything set to default, no compilers or anything). It worked on the second attempt. But I'm still struggling, trying to add gcc and such (from my local directory). After I installed the basics I ran setup-2.303 again, and only checked the Devel category. The first time it hung when starting to install doxygen, and the second time it hung in the middle of /usr/.../texinfo.tex. Does the MD5sum check go OK? Yes, all of the MD5sum checks go OK. I also just scanned my hard drives again (including the free space) with NDD, and it didn't report any problems. / Martin -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003, Elfyn McBratney wrote: I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use. This is probably why most experienced users recommend using one of the beta releases, in particular b19. There are no problems using setup.exe in that version (such as not being able to resize the window...) ..dac -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
David A. Case wrote: On Sat, Feb 01, 2003, Elfyn McBratney wrote: I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use. This is probably why most experienced users recommend using one of the beta releases, in particular b19. There are no problems using setup.exe in that version (such as not being able to resize the window...) Yes, it's amazing how few bugs there are in nonexistant software! :-) Max. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003, Elfyn McBratney wrote: I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use. ^^^[*] This is probably why most experienced users recommend using one of the beta releases, in particular b19. There are no problems using setup.exe in that version (such as not being able to resize the window...) Yes, it's amazing how few bugs there are in nonexistant software! :-) [*]Btw, it wasn't me who wrote that ;-) Regards, Elfyn McBratney [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.exposure.org.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:00:35PM -0800, David A. Case wrote: On Sat, Feb 01, 2003, Elfyn McBratney wrote: I've removed cygwin as its too alpha for my use. This is probably why most experienced users recommend using one of the beta releases, in particular b19. There are no problems using setup.exe in that version (such as not being able to resize the window...) Yeah, and you don't have to worry about those pesky extra software packages like ssh, tcsh, ghostscript, etc. Much more relaxing... Actually, I'll bet if you go back to B14 you'll have the most relaxing experience of all. It's probably tiny and not all that much ran on it. There are no worries about software that doesn't work the way you expect since the software just doesn't run at all and that *is* what you'd expect. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
This is probably why most experienced users recommend using one of the beta releases, in particular b19. There are no problems using setup.exe in that version (such as not being able to resize the window...) As someone who goes back to the Bx days (maybe I should call that the Bs days), I think the technical term for the above phrase is as follows: Rancid bovine fecal material. Says it all. Wayne Keen -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
Wayne, Now, now. It's true Cygwin has improved immensely in the past six years or so, but it was useful even back then. I started using it in 1997 (beginning about a week after I first had to use Windows for development) and it was indispensable, even if not entirely mature. I tried MKS, but even if you ignored its very slow terminal / console I/O, I could not conceivably deemed it worth what it costs when Cygwin (whose name was different then, I think) was available free. Randall Schulz At 15:58 2003-02-01, Dockeen wrote: This is probably why most experienced users recommend using one of the beta releases, in particular b19. There are no problems using setup.exe in that version (such as not being able to resize the window...) As someone who goes back to the Bx days (maybe I should call that the Bs days), I think the technical term for the above phrase is as follows: Rancid bovine fecal material. Says it all. Wayne Keen -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Setup hangs repetedly
Oh, Chris, Face it. The whole concept of software is pre-alpha and definitely not for the faint of heart. But just imagine the songs and epic poems that will be written to honor us, the brave pioneers of these first, archaic, nay even dangerous computers. Will anybody remember the cowards who couldn't even brave a simple Cygwin installation without running screaming in terror? Of course not. Now, back to my battle with the omnipresent demons of information chaos. They lurk everywhere! Randall ;-) It is not the critic who counts, the credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena. Who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short time and time again; and who, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly. His place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt -- Gary R. Van Sickle Brewer. Patriot. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Setup hangs repetedly
FWIW, some time ago I thought that setup was hanging regularly while doing 'Install from a local directory' when the directory was on a network share. Then on one occasion I started one such install and got sidetracked for about 5 hrs. When I returned to check on this install I found that it actually had progressed, though a snail would have outrun it by a fair margin. Other methods of accessing the same network share showed no lag at the same time this slow install was 'progressing'. There's something about the way I/O is done by setup that made installing from a shared directory totally unworkable. This example completed in about 6.5 hrs, installing fewer than 20 pkgs. Doug On 1 Feb 2003 at 19:24, Martin Magnusson wrote: Pavel Tsekov wrote: Now this is a hell of a bugreport... Would you care to be more specific ? What choices do you make on the various pages of the setup wizard. * First, either Install from Internet or Install from Local Directory. * Then I specify the root directory (same as I used to have when it worked), Install For All Users, Default Text File Type: Unix. * At Select You Internet Connection I choose Direct Connection. I usually download from ftp.sunet.se, but I have tried a couple of other servers too. * At Select Packages, I leave everythnig as Default, except the Devel category, the Publishing category and Graphics/OpenGL, where I choose Install. What does it mean hang for you ? Is it that the setup application just sits and waits for a very long time without progressing at all Exactly. It is not unresponsive though. I can still cancel it gracefully, but it doesn't do anything. I have left it on for an hour after it seems to hang, just to confirm that it isn't just progressing slowly. I did scan my hard drives (as suggested by L Anderson) with Norton Disk Doctor a couple of days ago, but I'm doing it again now. I'll post again if that fixes the problem. / Martin -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
