Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
Andy Koppe a écrit : On 9 July 2010 00:01 lemkemch wrote: If you want to continue with rxvt and want to keep it as close as possible to the old behavior set export LANG=C.ISO-8859-1 export LC_TIME=C in .profile this change modify only output display. Setting LANG in .profile is too late for bash itself, because that will continue to operate in C.UTF-8. That will cause trouble when entering non-ASCII characters on the command line, for example, try typing an ä or â. that's exactly what appends. Therefore you need to set it before bash is invoked, for example in cygwin.bat if that's where you're invoking rxvt from. adding export LANG=C.ISO-8859-1 export LC_TIME=C in Cygwin.bat has no effect. Philippe -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:08 AM, philippe wrote: adding export LANG=C.ISO-8859-1 export LC_TIME=C in Cygwin.bat has no effect That's because you need to translate them from bash syntax to cmd.exe syntax: set LANG=C.ISO-8859-1 set LC_CTIME=C -- Life is complex, with real and imaginary parts. Ok, it boots. Which means it must be bug-free and perfect. -- Linus Torvalds People disagree with me. I just ignore them. -- Linus Torvalds -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
Csaba Raduly a écrit : That's because you need to translate them from bash syntax to cmd.exe syntax: set LANG=C.ISO-8859-1 set LC_CTIME=C OK, it was so simple :-) Philippe. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
Andy Koppe a écrit : For your -e option, simply run mintty with a single - as the only option, i.e. mintty -. That will tell mintty to run an interactive login shell for your user as specified in /etc/passwd. if i add in the Cygwin.bat the line mintty -t myminty - mintty is launched with the good configuration at startup but there is an additional cmd window which doesn't close after the mintty is launched (but i can close it mnually). Good advice. Also, it's easiest just to invoke mintty from the start menu shortcut in the Cygwin folder that's created when mintty is installed. That already has that '-' argument. just a remark : after the standard cygwin installation I've a single short cut to Cygwin.bat in the start menu cygwin folder nothing else ...??? Philippe. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
Andy Koppe a écrit : If you invoke it from there, you'll need to precede it with the 'start' command: start mintty -t myminty - OK, thank's for all, Philippe. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
Andy Koppe a écrit : Setting termName to xterm in rxvt is a bad idea, because the two terminals diverge in various ways, for example regarding keycodes for modifier key combinations. Better stick with TERM=rxvt. ok Have a look at http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Bash-Startup-Files to see which files are being sourced when bash is invoked with --login. I've together the contains of /etc/bashrc and ~/.bash into a single file ~/.profile and now it's ok for my prompt and aliases ! But I've still some problems with special characters (é à ç ...), how can I change default encoding to avoid errors like below : [phili...@port78]~/Documents $ ls cl* clé avast.txt [phili...@port78]~/Documents $ ls clé* ls: cannot access clé*: No such file or directory Thank's, Philippe. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
On 7/8/2010 2:44 PM, philippe wrote: I've together the contains of /etc/bashrc and ~/.bash into a single file ~/.profile and now it's ok for my prompt and aliases ! But I've still some problems with special characters (é à ç ...), how can I change default encoding to avoid errors like below : [phili...@port78]~/Documents $ ls cl* clé avast.txt [phili...@port78]~/Documents $ ls clé* ls: cannot access clé*: No such file or directory You probably need to abandon rxvt and switch to either rxvt-unicode or mintty. Rxvt pretty much only supports ASCII characters. It's also abandoned upstream, so it isn't likely to be fixed either. However, if rxvt used to work for you under Cygwin 1.5, you might be able to make it happy again by changing your LANG setting to LANG=C. I highly recommend mintty. -Jeremy -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
Jeremy Bopp a écrit : [...] However, if rxvt used to work for you under Cygwin 1.5, you might be able to make it happy again by changing your LANG setting to LANG=C. No, i don't know where to modify this option LANG :-) I highly recommend mintty. ok, mintty is distributed with cygwin and seems to be a nice terminal. I've search a little about mintty configuration, i understand that i've to move ~/.profile to ~/.minttyrc, but it's not sufficient to traduce in a mintty syntax my ~/.Xdefault or the command below : rxvt -fn -*-Courier-medium-r-*-18-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 -geometry 90x30 -sr -bg #d5 -fg black -sl 8000 -termName rxvt -e /usr/bin/bash --login -i Do you know a good tutorial to configure mintty or can you help me! Thank's, Philippe. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:22 PM, philippe wrote: Jeremy Bopp a écrit : [...] However, if rxvt used to work for you under Cygwin 1.5, you might be able to make it happy again by changing your LANG setting to LANG=C. No, i don't know where to modify this option LANG :-) I highly recommend mintty. ok, mintty is distributed with cygwin and seems to be a nice terminal. I've search a little about mintty configuration, i understand that i've to move ~/.profile to ~/.minttyrc, but it's not sufficient to traduce in a mintty syntax my ~/.Xdefault or the command below : rxvt -fn -*-Courier-medium-r-*-18-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 -geometry 90x30 -sr -bg #d5 -fg black -sl 8000 -termName rxvt -e /usr/bin/bash --login -i Do you know a good tutorial to configure mintty or can you help me! Thank's, Philippe. Hello Philippe. If you run mintty and click on the icon in the upper left, you will see that an 'Options' option is available. Most of what you want can be set up in there and it will be saved to your .minttyrc file automatically. -Jason -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
On 7/8/2010 4:22 PM, philippe wrote: Jeremy Bopp a écrit : [...] However, if rxvt used to work for you under Cygwin 1.5, you might be able to make it happy again by changing your LANG setting to LANG=C. No, i don't know where to modify this option LANG :-) LANG is an environment variable. Under Cygwin 1.5, LANG=C was the default, but under Cygwin 1.7, LANG=C.UTF-8 is the default. This change is probably why rxvt stopped working for you out of the box. I highly recommend mintty. ok, mintty is distributed with cygwin and seems to be a nice terminal. I've search a little about mintty configuration, i understand that i've to move ~/.profile to ~/.minttyrc, but it's not sufficient to traduce in ~/.profile is something entirely different than ~/.minttyrc. They have completely different functions. The former sets up your shell environment while the latter configures mintty (the terminal) itself. There is nothing at all to move from one file to the other. a mintty syntax my ~/.Xdefault or the command below : rxvt -fn -*-Courier-medium-r-*-18-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 -geometry 90x30 -sr -bg #d5 -fg black -sl 8000 -termName rxvt -e /usr/bin/bash --login -i Do you know a good tutorial to configure mintty or can you help me! As Jason already informed you, mintty has an options dialog you can use to configure it. The equivalents of your rxvt options, except for the -e option, can be configured there and saved automatically to ~/.minttyrc so that future runs of mintty automatically have the right settings without the need for a long, complicated set of command line options. However, most if not all of the options can be set via the command line as well if that's your preference. See man mintty for details. For your -e option, simply run mintty with a single - as the only option, i.e. mintty -. That will tell mintty to run an interactive login shell for your user as specified in /etc/passwd. As you'll see in the manpage for mintty, mintty does have a -e option, but there really isn't any need to be so verbose about the shell to start for most people. Set the shell program you want to use in /etc/passwd, and let mintty do the rest. -Jeremy -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 00:41:25 +0200, Jeremy Bopp jer...@bopp.net wrote: On 7/8/2010 4:22 PM, philippe wrote: Jeremy Bopp a écrit : [...] However, if rxvt used to work for you under Cygwin 1.5, you might be able to make it happy again by changing your LANG setting to LANG=C. No, i don't know where to modify this option LANG :-) LANG is an environment variable. Under Cygwin 1.5, LANG=C was the default, but under Cygwin 1.7, LANG=C.UTF-8 is the default. This change is probably why rxvt stopped working for you out of the box. If you want to continue with rxvt and want to keep it as close as possible to the old behavior set export LANG=C.ISO-8859-1 export LC_TIME=C in .profile Works for me. The LC_TIME is to keep ls -l produce the standard time strings. Michael -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
On 9 July 2010 00:01 lemkemch wrote: If you want to continue with rxvt and want to keep it as close as possible to the old behavior set export LANG=C.ISO-8859-1 export LC_TIME=C in .profile Setting LANG in .profile is too late for bash itself, because that will continue to operate in C.UTF-8. That will cause trouble when entering non-ASCII characters on the command line, for example, try typing an ä or â. Therefore you need to set it before bash is invoked, for example in cygwin.bat if that's where you're invoking rxvt from. Andy -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
On 8 July 2010 23:41, Jeremy Bopp wrote: As Jason already informed you, mintty has an options dialog you can use to configure it. The equivalents of your rxvt options, except for the -e option, can be configured there and saved automatically to ~/.minttyrc so that future runs of mintty automatically have the right settings without the need for a long, complicated set of command line options. However, most if not all of the options can be set via the command line as well if that's your preference. See man mintty for details. For your -e option, simply run mintty with a single - as the only option, i.e. mintty -. That will tell mintty to run an interactive login shell for your user as specified in /etc/passwd. As you'll see in the manpage for mintty, mintty does have a -e option, but there really isn't any need to be so verbose about the shell to start for most people. Set the shell program you want to use in /etc/passwd, and let mintty do the rest. Good advice. Also, it's easiest just to invoke mintty from the start menu shortcut in the Cygwin folder that's created when mintty is installed. That already has that '-' argument. Andy -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:22 PM, philippe wrote: so where should i place the /etc/bashrc In the file /etc/bash.bashrc -- Life is complex, with real and imaginary parts. Ok, it boots. Which means it must be bug-free and perfect. -- Linus Torvalds People disagree with me. I just ignore them. -- Linus Torvalds -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
Csaba Raduly a écrit : On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:22 PM, philippe wrote: so where should i place the /etc/bashrc In the file /etc/bash.bashrc the change bashrc-basch.barchrc doesn't solve the problem. Philippe. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: configure rxvt on cygwin 1.7.5
On 6 July 2010 22:22, philippe wrote: - /cygwin.bat to replace basic console by rxvt with the line rxvt -fn -*-Courier-medium-r-*-18-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 -geometry 80x30 -sr -bg #d5 -fg black -sl 2000 -termName xterm -e /usr/bin/bash --login -i Setting termName to xterm in rxvt is a bad idea, because the two terminals diverge in various ways, for example regarding keycodes for modifier key combinations. Better stick with TERM=rxvt. - and 've added /etc/bashrc with my promt definition : PS1='\e[0m\][\e[32m\]\u\e[0...@\e[31m\]\h\e[0m\]\e[0m\]]\e[34m\]\w\e[0m\]\n$ ' this last definition seems to be ignored anyway ... Have a look at http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Bash-Startup-Files to see which files are being sourced when bash is invoked with --login. Andy -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
