[OT] Email address. Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread Jani tiainen
Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:

So do it once that way to get the installed packages and then run it again
to get the uninstalled packages.
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:43:21PM +0200, electa wrote:

it selects only my installed packs,  but not the other. i want all for my
cygwin-CD!
Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto nel messaggio


 
Please feed the spammers my email address; it can only be a drop in the
bucket over the 10-30 Mb/day I get now.  :)
Everyone who writes on a mailinglist that will be archived on net in 
very searchable way shouldn't expose real e-mail address.

This is like leaving your door unlocked while leaving your house/apartment.

	

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Re: [OT] Email address. Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread Jani tiainen
Jani tiainen wrote:

Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:

So do it once that way to get the installed packages and then run it 
again
to get the uninstalled packages.

On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:43:21PM +0200, electa wrote:

it selects only my installed packs,  but not the other. i want all 
for my
cygwin-CD!

Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto nel messaggio


 
Please feed the spammers my email address; it can only be a drop in the
bucket over the 10-30 Mb/day I get now.  :)


Everyone who writes on a mailinglist that will be archived on net in 
very searchable way shouldn't expose real e-mail address.

This is like leaving your door unlocked while leaving your house/apartment.
Err, and do you really think that spam-mail-address gatherers are so 
stupid that they can't extract mail from somename at somewhere dot com 
format..? That's trivial regexp, and so what if there is few bogus 
adresses..? They mail to millons of addresses so few boguses that 
program extracting addresses might create doesn't matter anyway.

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RE: [OT] Email address. Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread Dave Korn
 -Original Message-
 From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Jani tiainen
 Sent: 23 April 2004 10:41

 Err, and do you really think that spam-mail-address gatherers are so 
 stupid

  Rule #1 in full effect!

 that they can't extract mail from somename at 
 somewhere dot com format..? 

  Yes, actually.

  There's a broad concensus among the spamfighting community that there
isn't actually any email-address-snarfing software out there that actually
does bother to attempt to demunge addresses.  When non-munged addresses are
out there to be spidered off the web and hoovered up from usenet by their
tens of millions, why bother going to the effort of writing extra code, when
the spammers can already get more addresses than they know what to do with
anyway?

  Seriously, it really seems to be the case that it just doesn't happen to
any significant extent.

  Talk to n.a.n.a.e for more information.

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RE: [OT] Email address. Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread Hughes, Bill
 Sent: 23 April 2004 11:52  From: Dave Korn 
..snip..
   There's a broad concensus among the spamfighting community 
 that there
 isn't actually any email-address-snarfing software out there 
 that actually
 does bother to attempt to demunge addresses.  When non-munged 
 addresses are
 out there to be spidered off the web and hoovered up from 
 usenet by their
 tens of millions, why bother going to the effort of writing 
 extra code, when
 the spammers can already get more addresses than they know 
 what to do with
 anyway?
I'd concur, until everyone mungs their address (I can't at work) there's
little incentive for the spammers to bother. It's an interesting point to
consider - why would a spammer _want_ to decode a munged email as this
clearly shows that the addressee doesn't want spam and the only likely
response is going to be Spamcop et al? Of course that pre-supposes any
intelligence on the part of spammers which is even more debateable.
 
   Seriously, it really seems to be the case that it just 
 doesn't happen to
 any significant extent.
Yet, but I hope I'm wrong.


   Talk to n.a.n.a.e for more information.
YJM!
There my be people of tender years on this list who shouldn't be exposed to
nanae, of course nanau is arguably worse. Hmm, I'm going to check for
a.f.cygwin when I get home (or a.f.$DEVNAME...)

Some people may think cgf is a bit tetchy sometimes (normally with good
reason) but they obviously haven't spent much time on usenet.
My favourite is sci.physics.relativity for truly staggering levels of wilful
ignorance and perversity.

Thanks Dave, you brought back some happy memories :-)

Bill

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RE: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread Erik Cumps
   If you *really* want to download absolutely *everything*, just
   delete the entire contents of your local download directory and
   start again.

 _That_ is plain MEAN ;-)

  Actually, I think that was his original problem. ;-)  If you want
  to make setup forget about what you have installed, you need to
  remove the files in '/etc/setup'.  This assumes the OP wants to
  install everything too though, which isn't clear from the
  original post.

 He wanted it on a cd/rw... IMO that implies _not_ installing it.

Why not use mkcygwget. It's what I do to create my Cygwin installation
CDs...

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Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread electa
it is interensting... (for future CDs ;-) where i can found info on this
utility?

Erik Cumps [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you *really* want to download absolutely *everything*, just
delete the entire contents of your local download directory and
start again.
 
  _That_ is plain MEAN ;-)
 
   Actually, I think that was his original problem. ;-)  If you want
   to make setup forget about what you have installed, you need to
   remove the files in '/etc/setup'.  This assumes the OP wants to
   install everything too though, which isn't clear from the
   original post.
 
  He wanted it on a cd/rw... IMO that implies _not_ installing it.

 Why not use mkcygwget. It's what I do to create my Cygwin installation
 CDs...

 Erik Cumps






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Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread Erik Cumps
electa wrote:

 it is interensting... (for future CDs ;-) where i can found info on this
 utility?

http://www.google.com/search?q=mkcygwgetsourceid=operanum=50ie=utf-8oe=utf-8

 Erik Cumps [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto nel messaggio

http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR

I know some of us have to use brain-challenged email clients but that
doesn't mean we can't do something about it, even if it means editing
out the quoted email address every time we're about to send a reply.

Erik Cumps

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Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 01:43, electa wrote:
 it selects only my installed packs,  but not the other. i want all for my
 cygwin-CD!

Run setup twice in download only mode. In the first run, toggle the word
default to the right of all to 'reinstall'. In the second run, choose
'download' in the same place.

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Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#STFW.
Igor
P.S. http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, electa wrote:

 it is interensting... (for future CDs ;-) where i can found info on this
 utility?

 Erik Cumps [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 If you *really* want to download absolutely *everything*, just
 delete the entire contents of your local download directory and
 start again.
  
   _That_ is plain MEAN ;-)
  
Actually, I think that was his original problem. ;-)  If you want
to make setup forget about what you have installed, you need to
remove the files in '/etc/setup'.  This assumes the OP wants to
install everything too though, which isn't clear from the
original post.
  
   He wanted it on a cd/rw... IMO that implies _not_ installing it.
 
  Why not use mkcygwget. It's what I do to create my Cygwin installation
  CDs...
 
  Erik Cumps

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RE: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread Dave Korn
 -Original Message-
 From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski
 Sent: 23 April 2004 16:16

 http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#STFW.
   Igor
 P.S. http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR
 
 On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, electa wrote:
 
  it is interensting... (for future CDs ;-) where i can found 
 info on this
  utility?
 
  Erik Cumps [EMAIL PROTECTED] by davek but igor left it in!] ha
scritto:


  Ya know, when making a PCYMTNQREAIYR complaint, it really behooves one to
PCYMTNQREAIYR before so doing!  


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RE: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Dave Korn wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski
  Sent: 23 April 2004 16:16

  http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#STFW.
Igor
  P.S. http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR
 
  On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, electa wrote:
 
   it is interensting... (for future CDs ;-) where i can found info on this
   utility?
  
   Erik Cumps [EMAIL PROTECTED] by davek but igor left it in!] ha scritto:

   Ya know, when making a PCYMTNQREAIYR complaint, it really behooves one to
 PCYMTNQREAIYR before so doing!

 cheers,
   DaveK

Yes, it really does no good to catch it 10 seconds after hitting Send,
does it? ;-)
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RE: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen
 From: Erik Cumps
 Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:53 PM

Hannu:
  He wanted it on a cd/rw... IMO that implies _not_ installing it.

 Why not use mkcygwget. It's what I do to create my Cygwin installation
 CDs...

 Erik Cumps

Well, why not. IMO everybody is welcome to enhance things :-)
 Still, my writing should give some ahaaa-s here and there...

e.g: I have a central installation of cygwin at work, which I can run from
any computer - using the described trick in a simple way. (Not tried any X
things yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it worked.)


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Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-22 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:00:50PM +0200, electa wrote:
 i have some packeges installed, but i have lost their .bz2 files...
 now i want to retrieve all packages because I would like to put them on a
 CD-RW!
 -- setup.exe knows what packages i have alreay installed and don't download
 them...

In download to local directory mode, try toggling the selector next to
the All category to Reinstall?


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Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-22 Thread electa
it selects only my installed packs,  but not the other. i want all for my
cygwin-CD!

Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:00:50PM +0200, electa wrote:
  i have some packeges installed, but i have lost their .bz2 files...
  now i want to retrieve all packages because I would like to put them on
a
  CD-RW!
  -- setup.exe knows what packages i have alreay installed and don't
download
  them...

 In download to local directory mode, try toggling the selector next to
 the All category to Reinstall?






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Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-22 Thread Larry Hall
Select a different mirror.

Larry

At 11:43 AM 4/22/2004, you wrote:
it selects only my installed packs,  but not the other. i want all for my
cygwin-CD!

Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:00:50PM +0200, electa wrote:
  i have some packeges installed, but i have lost their .bz2 files...
  now i want to retrieve all packages because I would like to put them on
a
  CD-RW!
  -- setup.exe knows what packages i have alreay installed and don't
download
  them...

 In download to local directory mode, try toggling the selector next to
 the All category to Reinstall?




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Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-22 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
So do it once that way to get the installed packages and then run it again
to get the uninstalled packages.

On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:43:21PM +0200, electa wrote:
 it selects only my installed packs,  but not the other. i want all for my
 cygwin-CD!
 
 Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto nel messaggio

 
Please feed the spammers my email address; it can only be a drop in the
bucket over the 10-30 Mb/day I get now.  :)

 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:00:50PM +0200, electa wrote:
   i have some packeges installed, but i have lost their .bz2 files...
   now i want to retrieve all packages because I would like to put them on
 a
   CD-RW!
   -- setup.exe knows what packages i have alreay installed and don't
 download
   them...
 
  In download to local directory mode, try toggling the selector next to
  the All category to Reinstall?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-22 Thread Dave Korn
 -Original Message-
 From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of electa
 Sent: 22 April 2004 16:01

 i have some packeges installed, but i have lost their .bz2 files...
 now i want to retrieve all packages because I would like to 
 put them on a
 CD-RW!
 -- setup.exe knows what packages i have alreay installed and 
 don't download
 them...
 

If you *really* want to download absolutely *everything*, just delete the
entire contents of your local download directory and start again.


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Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-22 Thread Brian Keener
Electa wrote:
 it selects only my installed packs, but not the other. i want all for my 
 cygwin-CD!

It would appear the easiest way to accomplish this is to select download from 
internet.  Then when you get to the chooser screen you have two choices the 
first is to click the view tab until you get to full list and then select 
reinstall or install for each packages - this is sure to get them all.

Second choise is on the category view first click on the rotate icon next to 
All Default until it say reinstall.  This will now download all the packages 
you have installed as you said.  Let these download, then run setup again and 
this time for the All default icon click until you get to install - this should 
select all packages you do not have installed and flag the once you have as 
keep.  You can check these settings each time by rolling through the views to 
Full and see what is selected.  Also on this pass though checked the skipped 
view because I still had 4 or 5 in that view so check them if there are any.

Hope this helps.

bk



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RE: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-22 Thread Larry Hall
At 12:46 PM 4/22/2004, you wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of electa
 Sent: 22 April 2004 16:01

 i have some packeges installed, but i have lost their .bz2 files...
 now i want to retrieve all packages because I would like to 
 put them on a
 CD-RW!
 -- setup.exe knows what packages i have alreay installed and 
 don't download
 them...
 

If you *really* want to download absolutely *everything*, just delete the
entire contents of your local download directory and start again.


Actually, I think that was his original problem. ;-)  If you want to make 
setup forget about what you have installed, you need to remove the files
in '/etc/setup'.  This assumes the OP wants to install everything too 
though, which isn't clear from the original post.


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RE: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-22 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen
 From: Larry Hall
 Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:32 PM

  If you *really* want to download absolutely *everything*, just
  delete the entire contents of your local download directory and
  start again.

 _That_ is plain MEAN ;-)

 Actually, I think that was his original problem. ;-)  If you want
 to make setup forget about what you have installed, you need to
 remove the files in '/etc/setup'.  This assumes the OP wants to
 install everything too though, which isn't clear from the
 original post.

 He wanted it on a cd/rw... IMO that implies _not_ installing it.

Here's an easier way, assuming you have cygwin already installed.

I suppose this could be the basis of a temporary(!?) deactivation of
an entire cygwin installation (maybe even swapping from one cygwin version
to another!); here we go:

$ echo /recyg.bat cd \$(cygpath -w /bin)\
$ mount -m /recyg.bat

Note that if you have this;
$ echo $CYGWIN
... check_case:strict ...

then you might have to launch CMD.EXE (or COMMAND.COM) like this;

$ CMD.EXE
Microsoft Windows BLURB

C:\Program\Cygwin\bin umount -A
C:\Program\Cygwin\bin mount
c: on /cygdrive/c type system (binmode,noumount)
d: on /cygdrive/d type system (binmode,noumount)
e: on /cygdrive/e type system (binmode,noumount)
blah, blah

 run setup.exe, do whatever you like EXCEPT reinstall.

For ease of restoration;
 do _NOT_ close the bash you have open.
Note - *This* is why you shouldn't reinstall:
 you'll have bash+cygwin1.dll loaded, at least.

Though, FWIW: Closing the bash session+rxvt/console isn't a problem;
all you have to do is look up cygwin-install-path\recyg.bat
and execute it.

Given the above _NOT_ closed bash though; restoration is done thus:

C:\Program\Cygwin\bin..\recyg
a bunch of mount commands get executed
C:\Program\Cygwin\binmount
list of previous mounts
c: on /cygdrive/c type system (binmode,noumount)
d: on /cygdrive/d type system (binmode,noumount)
e: on /cygdrive/e type system (binmode,noumount)
blah, blah

C:\Program\Cygwin\binexit
$

...your previous cygwin is back again.


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