Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2 (with a very off-topic laptop aside)

2003-12-18 Thread Larry Hall
At 12:37 AM 12/18/2003, Christopher Faylor you wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:21:50AM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:53:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is the uname and stackdump from cygwin1-20031214.dll.bz2:

CYGWIN_NT-5.0 Test 1.5.6s(0.107/3/2) 20031214 23:18:27 i686 unknown unknown
Cygwin


Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=610865E7
eax=0948 ebx=00409E30 ecx=610EFE64 edx=0004 esi=0014
edi=0022FB48
ebp=0022FB1C esp=0022FB00 program=C:\cygwin\bin\rsync.exe
cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs= ss=0023
Stack trace:
Frame Function  Args
0022FB1C  610865E7  (0022FA94, 0022FA94, 0022FA94, 0022FB40)
End of stack trace

Oh well.  Still not much help.  I am building a new snapshot which may
provide a better stack trace on failure.  If you could run it and report
the stack trace, it would be appreciated.

Also, if you could send me a complete strace log that might be useful,
too.

I just thought I'd vent a little about my attempt to debug this today.
I went to another person in my office (Hi Jay!) who has a laptop running
Windows 2000 with the intent of running rsync there.  His laptop was
out of date so I updated cygwin on it, which took a while.  When I
was finished updating it, I tried to rsync from my laptop* (purchased
with the help of some people here after a truely depressing history of
being scammed, saving more money, buying a laptop, having it shipped,
having it shipped back, having it shipped again, shipping it back,
buying a new one, and now...) only to find that my laptop had crashed.
On rebooting I got nothing but a blank screen.

So, I took everything apart and tried again:  still nothing.

Took everything apart again, swapped the SODIMMs and got the dreaded BIOS
beeping.  Took out a SODIMM and now it boots.

Which means now I have to wrangle with InternetIShop about getting a
replacement without sending my laptop back *again*.

I think I am very close to throwing myself off a bridge on this subject.
Having had exactly the laptop I wanted for three weeks and now having to
once again contemplate talking to obtuse tech support or sales people
or, worse, more of the non-responders...  well...  Let's just say I am
not in a good mood.  I wasn't an optimistic type of guy I would almost
think some higher authority didn't really want me to have a laptop like
this, even though it means I'm in the presence of my family more often,
which I would think would be a good thing...

Anyway, sorry for the atypical personal aside.  I am just so frustrated
by this that I could spit.  The laptop is working fine with half the
amount of memory and the amount that I have left (512MB) is something
I would have killed for a few years ago, but, despite that, the speed
degradation is still noticeable.

Blah, blah, blah.  Yeah, I know.  I'd lambaste anyone else who did this
but it does have something of a cygwin component since all of my super
secret test files and environment is on this laptop and, if it dies,
I'll be scrambing to recreate things from backup.



Heh!  I told you CGF was going down!  No one believed me.  Crazy they 
said.  Ludicrous they crowed.  But now they see.  There will be no more
secrets.  

My work here is done. 


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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2 (with a very off-topic laptop aside)

2003-12-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 10:30:12AM -0500, Larry Hall wrote:
Heh!  I told you CGF was going down!  No one believed me.  Crazy they 
said.  Ludicrous they crowed.  But now they see.  There will be no more
secrets.  

Aha.  So, it was you, my arch nemesis responsible for this indignity.  I
thought the beard on that computer repairman who came in yesterday
looked a little strange, especially with the lines of glue running down
the neck.  I guess I should have realized that I hadn't actually
reported any problems with my computer but who remembers such details
admidst the day-to-day mayhem of this fast past, high stakes, software
development world.

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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-17 Thread Marcus Van Der Beek
But, then it's been theorized that I am rather incompetent about testing
these things,

preferring to test in a magical It always works type of
environment that is loaded with super special software.  That's why
I need something like the stack dump from normal folks who don't have
access to all of my whiz bang cygwin spy gadgets and such.
its good to see you acknowledge and agree with what others have been saying
even though its got a sarcastic tone about it.
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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:28:53AM +, Marcus Van Der Beek wrote:
But, then it's been theorized that I am rather incompetent about testing
these things,

preferring to test in a magical It always works type of
environment that is loaded with super special software.  That's why
I need something like the stack dump from normal folks who don't have
access to all of my whiz bang cygwin spy gadgets and such.

its good to see you acknowledge and agree with what others have been saying
even though its got a sarcastic tone about it.

Do you wear ear muffs to muffle the sound of things whooshing by over your
head?  It must be quite distracting otherwise.

cgf

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RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-17 Thread Ken Thompson

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
 Of Christopher Faylor
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:49 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2


 On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:28:53AM +, Marcus Van Der Beek wrote:
 But, then it's been theorized that I am rather incompetent about testing
 these things,
 
 preferring to test in a magical It always works type of
 environment that is loaded with super special software.  That's why
 I need something like the stack dump from normal folks who don't have
 access to all of my whiz bang cygwin spy gadgets and such.
 
 its good to see you acknowledge and agree with what others have
 been saying
 even though its got a sarcastic tone about it.

 Do you wear ear muffs to muffle the sound of things whooshing by over your
 head?  It must be quite distracting otherwise.

 cgf

CGF provides a tremendous service to the open source community whatever some
list members think of his attitude. Some of you people who are trashing him
at the same time you are expecting him to reproduce and fix bugs, which
often seem to affect only a very few installations, really should read Dale
Carnegies book How To Win Friends And Influence People. You would really get
a lot more accomplished that way.



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RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-17 Thread Larry Hall
At 10:56 AM 12/17/2003, Ken Thompson you wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
 Of Christopher Faylor
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:49 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2


 On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:28:53AM +, Marcus Van Der Beek wrote:
 But, then it's been theorized that I am rather incompetent about testing
 these things,
 
 preferring to test in a magical It always works type of
 environment that is loaded with super special software.  That's why
 I need something like the stack dump from normal folks who don't have
 access to all of my whiz bang cygwin spy gadgets and such.
 
 its good to see you acknowledge and agree with what others have
 been saying
 even though its got a sarcastic tone about it.

 Do you wear ear muffs to muffle the sound of things whooshing by over your
 head?  It must be quite distracting otherwise.

 cgf

CGF provides a tremendous service to the open source community whatever some
list members think of his attitude. Some of you people who are trashing him
at the same time you are expecting him to reproduce and fix bugs, which
often seem to affect only a very few installations, really should read Dale
Carnegies book How To Win Friends And Influence People. You would really get
a lot more accomplished that way.


Wow!  I can't believe you fell for this CGF deception.  There's clearly a 
Cygwin conspiracy going on here and CGF is at the heart of it.  My take is 
that Red Hat is planning a new, beefed up version of Cygwin that will only
be available as a commercial offering.  It will be big $$$ and compete 
head-to-head with the likes of MS Windows and even Linux!  But Red Hat 
won't be releasing this to the Cygwin community for free.  So we'll
all be stuck with only what we can download. :-(  CGF clearly has access 
to this pending mega, commercial version and is certainly using that for all 
his tests, leaving us all at a disadvantage.  I'm sure he's laughing 
sadistically at us even now.  But he's not fooling me!  And he won't get 
away with it!  Mark my words.  CGF is going down.  And Cygwin will be all 
the better for it.  Just you wait and see...


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RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-17 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Larry Hall wrote:

 At 10:56 AM 12/17/2003, Ken Thompson wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
  Of Christopher Faylor
  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:49 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2
 
 
  On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:28:53AM +, Marcus Van Der Beek wrote:
  But, then it's been theorized that I am rather incompetent about testing
  these things,
  
  preferring to test in a magical It always works type of
  environment that is loaded with super special software.  That's why
  I need something like the stack dump from normal folks who don't have
  access to all of my whiz bang cygwin spy gadgets and such.
  
  its good to see you acknowledge and agree with what others have
  been saying
  even though its got a sarcastic tone about it.
 
  Do you wear ear muffs to muffle the sound of things whooshing by over your
  head?  It must be quite distracting otherwise.
 
  cgf
 
 CGF provides a tremendous service to the open source community whatever some
 list members think of his attitude. Some of you people who are trashing him
 at the same time you are expecting him to reproduce and fix bugs, which
 often seem to affect only a very few installations, really should read Dale
 Carnegies book How To Win Friends And Influence People. You would really get
 a lot more accomplished that way.

 Wow!  I can't believe you fell for this CGF deception.  There's clearly a
 Cygwin conspiracy going on here and CGF is at the heart of it.  My take is
 that Red Hat is planning a new, beefed up version of Cygwin that will only
 be available as a commercial offering.  It will be big $$$ and compete
 head-to-head with the likes of MS Windows and even Linux!  But Red Hat
 won't be releasing this to the Cygwin community for free.  So we'll
 all be stuck with only what we can download. :-(  CGF clearly has access
 to this pending mega, commercial version and is certainly using that for all
 his tests, leaving us all at a disadvantage.  I'm sure he's laughing
 sadistically at us even now.  But he's not fooling me!  And he won't get
 away with it!  Mark my words.  CGF is going down.  And Cygwin will be all
 the better for it.  Just you wait and see...

/* CGF: going down.

   Copyright 2003 Red Hat, Inc.

This text is part of Cygwin.

This composition is a copyrighted work licensed under the terms of the
Cygwin license.  Please consult the file CYGWIN_LICENSE for
details. */


You better watch out, you better back up,
Because all support for Cygwin will stop:
CGF is go-oing down...
He's one of the thugs who manage Cygwin,
He adds all the bugs because he is mean:
CGF is go-oing down...
He knows the ins of signals, he knows both spawn() and fork()
He has his own environment that makes all programs work...

His manner is rude, he lurks on the lists,
He'll make you spit food and clench both your fists:
CGF is go-oing down...
He has the gall not to spend all his time
On fixing our bugs and this is a crime:
CGF is go-oing down...
Cygwin will just be better with no CGF,
Until the day you find a bug and run screaming WTF?

You better watch out, you better back up,
Because all support for Cygwin will stop:
CGF is go-oing do-o-o-o-o-o-o-own!

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RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-17 Thread John Morrison
 From: Igor Pechtchanski

snip what=Christmas Song/

LOL :)

J.

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RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-17 Thread SMore
Here is the uname and stackdump from cygwin1-20031214.dll.bz2:

CYGWIN_NT-5.0 Test 1.5.6s(0.107/3/2) 20031214 23:18:27 i686 unknown unknown
Cygwin


Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=610865E7
eax=0948 ebx=00409E30 ecx=610EFE64 edx=0004 esi=0014
edi=0022FB48
ebp=0022FB1C esp=0022FB00 program=C:\cygwin\bin\rsync.exe
cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs= ss=0023
Stack trace:
Frame Function  Args
0022FB1C  610865E7  (0022FA94, 0022FA94, 0022FA94, 0022FB40)
End of stack trace


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Faylor
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2


On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 04:10:52PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:19:04PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I installed the latest snapshot cygwin1-20031214.dll.bz2:

$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-5.0 test 1.5.6s(0.107/3/2) 20031214 23:18:27 i686 unknown
unknown
Cygwin

I am still seeing a stackdump from rsync.

Does the output from this strace help identify the problem 

Unfortunately, no it doesn't.

Can you post the stack dump file you received when running the most
recent snapshot?  Please also include the uname -a output from the
snapshot.

Ping?  I'd really like to get this fixed.

cgf

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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:59PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
/* CGF: going down.

   Copyright 2003 Red Hat, Inc.

This text is part of Cygwin.

This composition is a copyrighted work licensed under the terms of the
Cygwin license.  Please consult the file CYGWIN_LICENSE for
details. */


You better watch out, you better back up,
Because all support for Cygwin will stop:
CGF is go-oing down...
He's one of the thugs who manage Cygwin,
He adds all the bugs because he is mean:
CGF is go-oing down...
He knows the ins of signals, he knows both spawn() and fork()
He has his own environment that makes all programs work...

His manner is rude, he lurks on the lists,
He'll make you spit food and clench both your fists:
CGF is go-oing down...
He has the gall not to spend all his time
On fixing our bugs and this is a crime:
CGF is go-oing down...
Cygwin will just be better with no CGF,
Until the day you find a bug and run screaming WTF?

You better watch out, you better back up,
Because all support for Cygwin will stop:
CGF is go-oing do-o-o-o-o-o-o-own!

This is the funniest thing I have ever seen on this list, no exceptions.
I'm going to send it to everyone I know.

Of course, they'll all say Huh?  You aren't mean. but they have never
read the cygwin lists...

cgf

P.S. The copyright was a great touch!

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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-17 Thread Brian . Kelly

Before you go do-o-o-o-o-o-o-own - can you release 1.5.6?

I'm waiting. ;-)

Brian Kelly
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a thing).






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On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:59PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
/* CGF: going down.

   Copyright 2003 Red Hat, Inc.

This text is part of Cygwin.

This composition is a copyrighted work licensed under the terms of the
Cygwin license.  Please consult the file CYGWIN_LICENSE for
details. */


You better watch out, you better back up,
Because all support for Cygwin will stop:
CGF is go-oing down...
He's one of the thugs who manage Cygwin,
He adds all the bugs because he is mean:
CGF is go-oing down...
He knows the ins of signals, he knows both spawn() and fork()
He has his own environment that makes all programs work...

His manner is rude, he lurks on the lists,
He'll make you spit food and clench both your fists:
CGF is go-oing down...
He has the gall not to spend all his time
On fixing our bugs and this is a crime:
CGF is go-oing down...
Cygwin will just be better with no CGF,
Until the day you find a bug and run screaming WTF?

You better watch out, you better back up,
Because all support for Cygwin will stop:
CGF is go-oing do-o-o-o-o-o-o-own!

This is the funniest thing I have ever seen on this list, no exceptions.
I'm going to send it to everyone I know.

Of course, they'll all say Huh?  You aren't mean. but they have never
read the cygwin lists...

cgf

P.S. The copyright was a great touch!

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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-17 Thread Joshua Daniel Franklin
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:59PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Larry Hall wrote:
 
  At 10:56 AM 12/17/2003, Ken Thompson wrote:
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
   Of Christopher Faylor
   Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:49 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2
  
  
   On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:28:53AM +, Marcus Van Der Beek wrote:
   But, then it's been theorized that I am rather incompetent about testing
   these things,
   
   preferring to test in a magical It always works type of
   environment that is loaded with super special software.  That's why
   I need something like the stack dump from normal folks who don't have
   access to all of my whiz bang cygwin spy gadgets and such.
   
   its good to see you acknowledge and agree with what others have
   been saying
   even though its got a sarcastic tone about it.
  
   Do you wear ear muffs to muffle the sound of things whooshing by over your
   head?  It must be quite distracting otherwise.
  
   cgf
  
  CGF provides a tremendous service to the open source community whatever some
  list members think of his attitude. Some of you people who are trashing him
  at the same time you are expecting him to reproduce and fix bugs, which
  often seem to affect only a very few installations, really should read Dale
  Carnegies book How To Win Friends And Influence People. You would really get
  a lot more accomplished that way.
 
  Wow!  I can't believe you fell for this CGF deception.  There's clearly a
  Cygwin conspiracy going on here and CGF is at the heart of it.  My take is
  that Red Hat is planning a new, beefed up version of Cygwin that will only
  be available as a commercial offering.  It will be big $$$ and compete
  head-to-head with the likes of MS Windows and even Linux!  But Red Hat
  won't be releasing this to the Cygwin community for free.  So we'll
  all be stuck with only what we can download. :-(  CGF clearly has access
  to this pending mega, commercial version and is certainly using that for all
  his tests, leaving us all at a disadvantage.  I'm sure he's laughing
  sadistically at us even now.  But he's not fooling me!  And he won't get
  away with it!  Mark my words.  CGF is going down.  And Cygwin will be all
  the better for it.  Just you wait and see...
 
 /* CGF: going down.
 
Copyright 2003 Red Hat, Inc.
 
 This text is part of Cygwin.
 
 This composition is a copyrighted work licensed under the terms of the
 Cygwin license.  Please consult the file CYGWIN_LICENSE for
 details. */
 
 
 You better watch out, you better back up,
 Because all support for Cygwin will stop:
 CGF is go-oing down...
 He's one of the thugs who manage Cygwin,
 He adds all the bugs because he is mean:
 CGF is go-oing down...
 He knows the ins of signals, he knows both spawn() and fork()
 He has his own environment that makes all programs work...
 
 His manner is rude, he lurks on the lists,
 He'll make you spit food and clench both your fists:
 CGF is go-oing down...
 He has the gall not to spend all his time
 On fixing our bugs and this is a crime:
 CGF is go-oing down...
 Cygwin will just be better with no CGF,
 Until the day you find a bug and run screaming WTF?
 
 You better watch out, you better back up,
 Because all support for Cygwin will stop:
 CGF is go-oing do-o-o-o-o-o-o-own!


OK, I've been keeping an informal list of some of my mailing list favorites,
after this I've put them on a webpage:

http://iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin.html

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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:53:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is the uname and stackdump from cygwin1-20031214.dll.bz2:

CYGWIN_NT-5.0 Test 1.5.6s(0.107/3/2) 20031214 23:18:27 i686 unknown unknown
Cygwin


Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=610865E7
eax=0948 ebx=00409E30 ecx=610EFE64 edx=0004 esi=0014
edi=0022FB48
ebp=0022FB1C esp=0022FB00 program=C:\cygwin\bin\rsync.exe
cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs= ss=0023
Stack trace:
Frame Function  Args
0022FB1C  610865E7  (0022FA94, 0022FA94, 0022FA94, 0022FB40)
End of stack trace

Oh well.  Still not much help.  I am building a new snapshot which may
provide a better stack trace on failure.  If you could run it and report
the stack trace, it would be appreciated.

Also, if you could send me a complete strace log that might be useful,
too.

cgf

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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2 (with a very off-topic laptop aside)

2003-12-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:21:50AM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:53:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is the uname and stackdump from cygwin1-20031214.dll.bz2:

CYGWIN_NT-5.0 Test 1.5.6s(0.107/3/2) 20031214 23:18:27 i686 unknown unknown
Cygwin


Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=610865E7
eax=0948 ebx=00409E30 ecx=610EFE64 edx=0004 esi=0014
edi=0022FB48
ebp=0022FB1C esp=0022FB00 program=C:\cygwin\bin\rsync.exe
cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs= ss=0023
Stack trace:
Frame Function  Args
0022FB1C  610865E7  (0022FA94, 0022FA94, 0022FA94, 0022FB40)
End of stack trace

Oh well.  Still not much help.  I am building a new snapshot which may
provide a better stack trace on failure.  If you could run it and report
the stack trace, it would be appreciated.

Also, if you could send me a complete strace log that might be useful,
too.

I just thought I'd vent a little about my attempt to debug this today.
I went to another person in my office (Hi Jay!) who has a laptop running
Windows 2000 with the intent of running rsync there.  His laptop was
out of date so I updated cygwin on it, which took a while.  When I
was finished updating it, I tried to rsync from my laptop* (purchased
with the help of some people here after a truely depressing history of
being scammed, saving more money, buying a laptop, having it shipped,
having it shipped back, having it shipped again, shipping it back,
buying a new one, and now...) only to find that my laptop had crashed.
On rebooting I got nothing but a blank screen.

So, I took everything apart and tried again:  still nothing.

Took everything apart again, swapped the SODIMMs and got the dreaded BIOS
beeping.  Took out a SODIMM and now it boots.

Which means now I have to wrangle with InternetIShop about getting a
replacement without sending my laptop back *again*.

I think I am very close to throwing myself off a bridge on this subject.
Having had exactly the laptop I wanted for three weeks and now having to
once again contemplate talking to obtuse tech support or sales people
or, worse, more of the non-responders...  well...  Let's just say I am
not in a good mood.  I wasn't an optimistic type of guy I would almost
think some higher authority didn't really want me to have a laptop like
this, even though it means I'm in the presence of my family more often,
which I would think would be a good thing...

Anyway, sorry for the atypical personal aside.  I am just so frustrated
by this that I could spit.  The laptop is working fine with half the
amount of memory and the amount that I have left (512MB) is something
I would have killed for a few years ago, but, despite that, the speed
degradation is still noticeable.

Blah, blah, blah.  Yeah, I know.  I'd lambaste anyone else who did this
but it does have something of a cygwin component since all of my super
secret test files and environment is on this laptop and, if it dies,
I'll be scrambing to recreate things from backup.

I know.  Still pretty lame...  I'll stop now.

cgf

*http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-04/msg00634.html

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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 04:10:52PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:19:04PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I installed the latest snapshot cygwin1-20031214.dll.bz2:

$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-5.0 test 1.5.6s(0.107/3/2) 20031214 23:18:27 i686 unknown unknown
Cygwin

I am still seeing a stackdump from rsync.

Does the output from this strace help identify the problem 

Unfortunately, no it doesn't.

Can you post the stack dump file you received when running the most
recent snapshot?  Please also include the uname -a output from the
snapshot.

Ping?  I'd really like to get this fixed.

cgf

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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:47:54PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 04:10:52PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:19:04PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I installed the latest snapshot cygwin1-20031214.dll.bz2:

$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-5.0 test 1.5.6s(0.107/3/2) 20031214 23:18:27 i686 unknown unknown
Cygwin

I am still seeing a stackdump from rsync.

Does the output from this strace help identify the problem 

Unfortunately, no it doesn't.

Can you post the stack dump file you received when running the most
recent snapshot?  Please also include the uname -a output from the
snapshot.

Ping?  I'd really like to get this fixed.

I can't remember.  Did I mention that I'd like to fix this so that maybe
I could make a 1.5.6 release?  As usual, I can't duplicate this on any
of the three systems that I've tried it on.  I've tried it on Windows
XP, Windows 2003, and Windows 2000 and that snapshot works fine.

But, then it's been theorized that I am rather incompetent about testing
these things, preferring to test in a magical It always works type of
environment that is loaded with super special software.  That's why
I need something like the stack dump from normal folks who don't have
access to all of my whiz bang cygwin spy gadgets and such.

cgf

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RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-15 Thread SMore
I installed the latest snapshot cygwin1-20031214.dll.bz2:

$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-5.0 test 1.5.6s(0.107/3/2) 20031214 23:18:27 i686 unknown unknown
Cygwin

I am still seeing a stackdump from rsync.

Does the output from this strace help identify the problem 

   65 4550309 [main] rsync 2176 reset_signal_arrived: reset signal_arrived
   64 4550373 [main] rsync 2176 set_signal_mask: old mask = 0, new mask =
8
   63 4550436 [main] rsync 2176 set_signal_mask: not calling
sig_dispatch_pending
   94 4550530 [main] rsync 2176 wait4: calling proc_subproc, pid -1, options
1
   63 4550593 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: args: 4, 1628381128
   62 4550655 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: wval-pid -1, wval-options 1
   64 4550719 [main] rsync 2176 checkstate: nchildren 0, nzombies 1
   63 4550782 [main] rsync 2176 stopped_or_terminated: considering pid 3088
   75 4550857 [main] rsync 2176 remove_zombie: removing 0, pid 3088,
nzombies 1
  109 4550966 [main] rsync 2176 checkstate: returning 1
   63 4551029 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: released waiting thread
   62 4551091 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: finished processing
terminated/stopped child
   63 4551154 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: returning 1
   66 4551220 [main] rsync 2176 wait4: 0 = WaitForSingleObject (...)
   65 4551285 [main] rsync 2176 wait4: intpid -1, status 0x22F934, w-status
0, options 1, res 3088
   66 4551351 [main] rsync 2176 wait4: calling proc_subproc, pid -1, options
1
   62 4551413 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: args: 4, 1628381128
   71 4551484 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: wval-pid -1, wval-options 1
   63 4551547 [main] rsync 2176 checkstate: nchildren 0, nzombies 0
   65 4551612 [main] rsync 2176 checkstate: checking alive children
   62 4551674 [main] rsync 2176 checkstate: returning 0
   61 4551735 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: waiting thread found no
children
   63 4551798 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: finished processing
terminated/stopped child
   63 4551861 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: returning 1
   62 4551923 [main] rsync 2176 wait4: intpid -1, status 0x22F934, w-status
0, options 1, res -1
   66 4551989 [main] rsync 2176 wait4: *** errno = 10
   62 4552051 [main] rsync 2176 set_signal_mask: old mask = 8, new mask
= 0
   62 4552113 [main] rsync 2176 set_signal_mask: not calling
sig_dispatch_pending
  114 4552227 [main] rsync 2176 handle_exceptions: In cygwin_except_handler
exc 0xC005 at 0x610865E7 sp 0x22F950
   66 4552293 [main] rsync 2176 handle_exceptions: In cygwin_except_handler
sig = 11 at 0x610865E7
   66 4552359 [main] rsync 2176 handle_exceptions: In cygwin_except_handler
calling 0x0
   72 4552431 [main] rsync 2176 handle_exceptions: Exception:
STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION
 1197 4553628 [main] rsync 2176 try_to_debug: debugger_command ''
  598 4554226 [main] rsync 2176 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to
rsync.exe.stackdump


If not, what else can I do to help identify what the problem is ?

-Steve More

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Faylor
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2


On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 04:25:26PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is the output you requested.

Ok.  Nothing too interesting there.  Oh well.

I uploaded a new snapshot that fixed the core dump that *I* was seeing.
It might be interesting to try, just for yucks although I haven't done
anything to fix a non-CYGWIN=tty case, AFAIK.

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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-15 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:19:04PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I installed the latest snapshot cygwin1-20031214.dll.bz2:

$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-5.0 test 1.5.6s(0.107/3/2) 20031214 23:18:27 i686 unknown unknown
Cygwin

I am still seeing a stackdump from rsync.

Does the output from this strace help identify the problem 

Unfortunately, no it doesn't.

Can you post the stack dump file you received when running the most
recent snapshot?  Please also include the uname -a output from the
snapshot.

cgf

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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 12:26:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there some permissions that need to be set so this will not core dump ??

A core dump is always an indication of a problem.  Someone else has
reported problems with the snapshot, too.  I've managed to duplicate a
crash so I'll fix it as soon as I have a chance.

Out of idle curiousity, are you using CYGWIN=tty?  I made some major changes
to that code recently so I'd suspect that as a source of problems.

cgf

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RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-12 Thread SMore
When I issue:
$ env | grep CYGWIN
nothing shows up.


Here is a little more info about my setup if it is useful:

I am trying to rsync using ssh.
Note: one of the folders is also a windows share.
 
PC users could drop files onto a windows share, then rsync copies those
files over ssh to mirror it to a different box.


-Thanks
Steve More

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Faylor
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2


On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 12:26:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there some permissions that need to be set so this will not core dump ??

A core dump is always an indication of a problem.  Someone else has
reported problems with the snapshot, too.  I've managed to duplicate a
crash so I'll fix it as soon as I have a chance.

Out of idle curiousity, are you using CYGWIN=tty?  I made some major changes
to that code recently so I'd suspect that as a source of problems.

cgf

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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 02:39:24PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I issue:
$ env | grep CYGWIN
nothing shows up.

Could you *attach* the output of cygcheck -rsv to some email and send it
here, please?

cgf

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RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2[GFI-T7125-3FDB81038CE0FA95]

2003-12-12 Thread SMore
Here is the output you requested.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Faylor
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2


On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 02:39:24PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I issue:
$ env | grep CYGWIN
nothing shows up.

Could you *attach* the output of cygcheck -rsv to some email and send it
here, please?

cgf

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Description: Binary data
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RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-12 Thread Larry Hall
At 02:39 PM 12/12/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
When I issue:
$ env | grep CYGWIN
nothing shows up.


Here is a little more info about my setup if it is useful:

I am trying to rsync using ssh.
Note: one of the folders is also a windows share.
 
PC users could drop files onto a windows share, then rsync copies those
files over ssh to mirror it to a different box.


Please note that accessing password-protected shares from ssh won't be 
possible with ssh's public key authenticatio.  Use password authentication
or shares that don't require passwords to make this work.  I'm not saying
this is your problem now.  Just trying to head off a (future?) question if 
you're unaware of this issue.

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RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-12 Thread SMore
password-protected vs password authentication

Would that be like a 98/ME box vs a NT/2000/XP Pro ? 

-Original Message-
From: Larry Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2


At 02:39 PM 12/12/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
When I issue:
$ env | grep CYGWIN
nothing shows up.


Here is a little more info about my setup if it is useful:

I am trying to rsync using ssh.
Note: one of the folders is also a windows share.
 
PC users could drop files onto a windows share, then rsync copies those
files over ssh to mirror it to a different box.


Please note that accessing password-protected shares from ssh won't be 
possible with ssh's public key authenticatio.  Use password authentication
or shares that don't require passwords to make this work.  I'm not saying
this is your problem now.  Just trying to head off a (future?) question if 
you're unaware of this issue.

--
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RFK Partners, Inc.  (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
838 Washington Street   (508) 893-9889 - FAX
Holliston, MA 01746 


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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 04:25:26PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is the output you requested.

Ok.  Nothing too interesting there.  Oh well.

I uploaded a new snapshot that fixed the core dump that *I* was seeing.
It might be interesting to try, just for yucks although I haven't done
anything to fix a non-CYGWIN=tty case, AFAIK.

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RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

2003-12-12 Thread Larry Hall
No.  Password-protected means that a share can't be accessed by just anyone.
Password authentication means a user has been authenticated by Windows via
their password.  ssh public key authentication isn't password authentication
so the user you become in this mode has no network access privileges as far
as Windows is concerned.

Larry

At 05:14 PM 12/12/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
password-protected vs password authentication

Would that be like a 98/ME box vs a NT/2000/XP Pro ? 

-Original Message-
From: Larry Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2


At 02:39 PM 12/12/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
When I issue:
$ env | grep CYGWIN
nothing shows up.


Here is a little more info about my setup if it is useful:

I am trying to rsync using ssh.
Note: one of the folders is also a windows share.
 
PC users could drop files onto a windows share, then rsync copies those
files over ssh to mirror it to a different box.


Please note that accessing password-protected shares from ssh won't be 
possible with ssh's public key authenticatio.  Use password authentication
or shares that don't require passwords to make this work.  I'm not saying
this is your problem now.  Just trying to head off a (future?) question if 
you're unaware of this issue.

--
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RFK Partners, Inc.  (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
838 Washington Street   (508) 893-9889 - FAX
Holliston, MA 01746 


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