Re: ssmtp-config fails on step 6
On Nov 22 19:04, Achim Gratz wrote: > Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin writes: > > In fact, Windows symlinks can easily be created as dangling symlinks > > as well. Try cmd's `mklink foo bar' with non-existent bar in developer > > mode or an elevated shell. > > However you need to tell it if that name points to a directory or a > file, it cannot change afterwards on the fly. Yes, but only Explorer actually cares. Nevertheless, it's one of the most annoying Windows "features" since Vista. Corinna -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: ssmtp-config fails on step 6
Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin writes: > In fact, Windows symlinks can easily be created as dangling symlinks > as well. Try cmd's `mklink foo bar' with non-existent bar in developer > mode or an elevated shell. However you need to tell it if that name points to a directory or a file, it cannot change afterwards on the fly. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptation for Waldorf microQ V2.22R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: ssmtp-config fails on step 6
On Nov 20 17:26, Ken Brown via Cygwin wrote: > On 11/19/2021 7:07 PM, Andrey Repin via Cygwin wrote: > > alternatives is known to make links to nonexistent objects. While this is > > possible on *NIX, you can only link to existing objects on Windows. > > You're talking about native Windows symlinks, not Cygwin symlinks. The > latter can point to nonexistent objects just as on *NIX. In fact, Windows symlinks can easily be created as dangling symlinks as well. Try cmd's `mklink foo bar' with non-existent bar in developer mode or an elevated shell. Corinna -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: ssmtp-config fails on step 6
On 11/19/2021 7:07 PM, Andrey Repin via Cygwin wrote: alternatives is known to make links to nonexistent objects. While this is possible on *NIX, you can only link to existing objects on Windows. You're talking about native Windows symlinks, not Cygwin symlinks. The latter can point to nonexistent objects just as on *NIX. This shouldn't fail unless the user has forced Cygwin to use native Windows symlinks by setting winsymlinks:nativestrict in the CYGWIN environment variable. Kevin, have you done this? If not, do you have any reason to think that alternatives failed to create symlinks? What does 'ls -l /etc/alternatives/mta*' show? On my system I see: $ ls -l /etc/alternatives/mta* lrwxrwxrwx 1 kbrown-admin None 19 2021-11-20 17:04 /etc/alternatives/mta -> /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe* lrwxrwxrwx 1 kbrown-admin None 19 2021-11-20 17:04 /etc/alternatives/mta-mailq -> /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe* lrwxrwxrwx 1 kbrown-admin None 19 2021-11-20 17:04 /etc/alternatives/mta-newaliases -> /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe* lrwxrwxrwx 1 kbrown-admin None 19 2021-11-20 17:04 /etc/alternatives/mta-sendmail -> /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe* I also have: $ ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail lrwxrwxrwx 1 kbrown-admin None 21 2021-11-20 17:04 /usr/sbin/sendmail -> /etc/alternatives/mta* and $ /usr/sbin/alternatives.exe --display mta mta - status is manual. link currently points to /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe - priority 0 slave mta-sendmail: /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe slave mta-mailq: /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe slave mta-newaliases: /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe Current `best' version is /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe. Do you see something different on your system? Last question: You said in your first post that "ssmtp-config fails silently" and that you isolated this to the alternatives command failing. What do you mean when you say it failed? Since it failed "silently", do you mean that 'echo $?' showed a nonzero error code? Or do you mean that something is not working as expected? Ken -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: ssmtp-config fails on step 6
On 2021-11-19 18:54, Doug Henderson wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 11:00, Kevin Andrew Lipscomb via Cygwin wrote: ssmtp-config fails silently on step 6 at the first call to /usr/sbin/alternatives. I isolated the alternatives command, added the --verbose switch to it, and ran the result from a bash shell that was launched as Administrator. The command fails immediately after emitting: reading /var/lib/alternatives/mta I am also reporting this as a bug in alternatives at bugzilla.redhat.com. -- -- Kevin Please reply quoting the complete failing command line and output from "uname -a". From a shell launched (from Windows) as Administrator (which is a user that has fully elevated rights)... Administrator@WIN-O968FBUMJDS ~ $ /usr/sbin/alternatives --verbose --install /usr/sbin/sendmail mta /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe 0 \ --slave /usr/lib/sendmail mta-sendmail /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe \ --slave /usr/bin/mailq mta-mailq /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe \ --slave /usr/bin/newaliases mta-newaliases /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe reading /var/lib/alternatives/mta Administrator@WIN-O968FBUMJDS ~ $ uname -a CYGWIN_NT-6.1 WIN-O968FBUMJDS 3.3.2(0.341/5/3) 2021-11-08 16:55 x86_64 Cygwin Also please post the bug number or a link to the bug on bugzilla.redhat.com. I haven't managed to accomplish that yet. Their system requires me to select a "classification" or "product" that the bug applies to, and it's not clear to me what I should select. On 2021-11-19 19:07, Andrey Repin wrote: : alternatives is known to make links to nonexistent objects. While this is possible on *NIX, you can only link to existing objects on Windows. In my case, /var/lib/alternatives/mta does exist, and its contents can be seen here: Administrator@WIN-O968FBUMJDS /var/lib/alternatives $ cat /var/lib/alternatives/mta manual /usr/sbin/sendmail mta-mailq /usr/bin/mailq mta-newaliases /usr/bin/newaliases mta-sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe 0 /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe /usr/sbin/ssmtp.exe Administrator@WIN-O968FBUMJDS /var/lib/alternatives $ On 2021-11-19 20:10, Doug Henderson wrote: : and make sure the ownership and permissions are identical to the other files, e.g. in my case: $ ls -l /var/lib/alternatives total 8.0K -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 41 Jul 16 11:25 2to3 -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 52 Jul 16 11:25 gnuplot -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 218 Jun 16 17:48 lua -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 77 Jun 5 08:46 pip3 -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 85 Jun 5 08:46 pydoc3 -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 110 Jun 16 07:34 python -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 89 Jun 5 08:46 python3 -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 59 Jul 16 11:25 python3-config Here's what I have: $ ls -Fals /var/lib/alternatives total 1 0 drwxr-xr-x+ 1 Administrator None 0 Nov 20 11:46 ./ 0 drwxr-xr-x+ 1 Administrator None 0 Feb 5 2018 ../ 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 Administrator None 0 Apr 4 2013 .keep-alternatives 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 Administrator None 200 Nov 20 11:46 mta Thank you both for your help with this. -- Kevin -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: ssmtp-config fails on step 6
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 17:21, Andrey Repin via Cygwin wrote: > > Greetings, Kevin Andrew Lipscomb! > > > ssmtp-config fails silently on step 6 at the first call to > > /usr/sbin/alternatives. > > > I isolated the alternatives command, added the --verbose switch to it, and > > ran the result from a bash shell that was launched as Administrator. The > > command fails immediately after emitting: > > >reading /var/lib/alternatives/mta > > > I am also reporting this as a bug in alternatives at bugzilla.redhat.com. > alternatives is known to make links to nonexistent objects. While this is > possible on *NIX, you can only link to existing objects on Windows. If that is the case, a possible workaround is to issue the following command from an elevated shell touch /var/lib/alternatives/mta and make sure the ownership and permissions are identical to the other files, e.g. in my case: $ ls -l /var/lib/alternatives total 8.0K -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 41 Jul 16 11:25 2to3 -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 52 Jul 16 11:25 gnuplot -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 218 Jun 16 17:48 lua -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 77 Jun 5 08:46 pip3 -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 85 Jun 5 08:46 pydoc3 -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 110 Jun 16 07:34 python -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 89 Jun 5 08:46 python3 -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 59 Jul 16 11:25 python3-config -- Doug Henderson, Calgary, Alberta, Canada - from gmail.com -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: ssmtp-config fails on step 6
Greetings, Kevin Andrew Lipscomb! > ssmtp-config fails silently on step 6 at the first call to > /usr/sbin/alternatives. > I isolated the alternatives command, added the --verbose switch to it, and > ran the result from a bash shell that was launched as Administrator. The > command fails immediately after emitting: >reading /var/lib/alternatives/mta > I am also reporting this as a bug in alternatives at bugzilla.redhat.com. alternatives is known to make links to nonexistent objects. While this is possible on *NIX, you can only link to existing objects on Windows. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Saturday, November 20, 2021 3:05:44 Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: ssmtp-config fails on step 6
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 11:00, Kevin Andrew Lipscomb via Cygwin wrote: > > ssmtp-config fails silently on step 6 at the first call to > /usr/sbin/alternatives. > > I isolated the alternatives command, added the --verbose switch to it, and > ran the result from a bash shell that was launched as Administrator. The > command fails immediately after emitting: > >reading /var/lib/alternatives/mta > > I am also reporting this as a bug in alternatives at bugzilla.redhat.com. > -- > -- Kevin Please reply quoting the complete failing command line and output from "uname -a". Also please post the bug number or a link to the bug on bugzilla.redhat.com. Note that alternatives must be run from an elevated cygwin window to add or change the alternatives.configuration. Doug - current cygwin alternatives maintainer -- Doug Henderson, Calgary, Alberta, Canada - from gmail.com -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
