Re: zsh as login shell

2005-10-25 Thread Vaclav Haisman



On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Thorsten Kampe wrote:


Urgh, /top-posting/,

Huh?



* Václav Haisman (2005-10-24 13:35 +0100)

What about editing /etc/passwd?


That's only used for remote logins (ssh, etc.)



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Re: zsh as login shell

2005-10-25 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Oct 25 11:38, Vaclav Haisman wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
 
 Urgh, /top-posting/,
 Huh?

http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#TOFU


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RE: zsh as login shell

2005-10-25 Thread Williams, Gerald S \(Jerry\)
I started using zsh about 10 months ago myself. Now I can have
my favorite ksh feature (two argument cd) as well as all the
things I like in BASH. But I digress...

I edited my /etc/profile, replacing bash with zsh, though that
of course doesn't help me start ZSH from Windows.

To get that, I copied the Shortcut created by Cygwin (the one
that runs BASH) and changed the Target to:
  C:\cygwin\bin\zsh.exe -l -i

-l is login
-i is interactive (I suspect you don't need it)

Although I probably have an unjustified aversion to adding
layers of BAT-file abstraction. The mkzsh tool does sound
easier.

gsw


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Re: zsh as login shell

2005-10-24 Thread Václav Haisman
What about editing /etc/passwd? Pesonally, I use customized cygwin.bat.

Václav Hasiman


Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 wrote:
 I would like to have on my Windoze desktop an Icon for zsh running under
 
 Cygwin, similar to the standard Cygwin Icon which runs a bash login
 shell,
 so that I can choose whether to get a window using bash or using zsh.
 
 It works kind of, but I can't get zsh executed as login shell. The BAT
 file
 invoking the bash login shell calls bash using
 
   bash --login -i
 
 but zsh has no equivalent to the --login option, so I just use
 
   zsh -i
 
 which makes the shell interactive, but not login. Zsh considers itself a
 login
 shell iff it is called under a name starting with a dash.
 
 Is there an elegant solution to this problem? Of course I could
 
   cp -- zsh -zsh
 
 and call -zsh, but I would have then to redo this everytime I update zsh
 to a 
 newer version. Another possibility would be to execute a shell script
 using
 bash and in this script do an
 
   exec -a -zsh zsh -I
 
 But maybe someone knows a better way to do this?
 
 Ronald 



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RE: zsh as login shell

2005-10-24 Thread Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3
 What about editing /etc/passwd? Pesonally, I use customized 
 cygwin.bat.

How exactly would this work? After all, we are talking about Windows
Batch skripts,
don't we? And they are not aware of /etc/passwd. 

But maybe I didn't get your point. How do you suggest that I should
modify my /etc/passwd?

Ronald

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Re: zsh as login shell

2005-10-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Oct 24 14:49, Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 wrote:
  What about editing /etc/passwd? Pesonally, I use customized 
  cygwin.bat.
 
 How exactly would this work? After all, we are talking about Windows
 Batch skripts,
 don't we? And they are not aware of /etc/passwd. 
 
 But maybe I didn't get your point. How do you suggest that I should
 modify my /etc/passwd?

Using an editor?


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Re: zsh as login shell

2005-10-24 Thread Chris Taylor

Corinna Vinschen wrote:

On Oct 24 14:49, Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 wrote:

What about editing /etc/passwd? Pesonally, I use customized 
cygwin.bat.


How exactly would this work? After all, we are talking about Windows
Batch skripts,
don't we? And they are not aware of /etc/passwd. 


But maybe I didn't get your point. How do you suggest that I should
modify my /etc/passwd?



Using an editor?


Corinna



I think he means what modifications should he make..

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Re: zsh as login shell

2005-10-24 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 wrote:

 I would like to have on my Windoze desktop an Icon for zsh running under
 Cygwin...
 [snip]
 Zsh considers itself a login shell iff it is called under a name
 starting with a dash.
 [snip]
 Another possibility would be to execute a shell script using bash and in
 this script do an

   exec -a -zsh zsh -I

 But maybe someone knows a better way to do this?

The latter sounds like the best solution.  You could do it directly from
the batch file by using

bash -c 'exec -l /usr/bin/zsh -i'

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Re: zsh as login shell

2005-10-24 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 (2005-10-24 11:11 +0100)
 I would like to have on my Windoze desktop an Icon for zsh running under
 
 Cygwin, similar to the standard Cygwin Icon which runs a bash login
 shell,
 so that I can choose whether to get a window using bash or using zsh.

mkzsh
 
 It works kind of, but I can't get zsh executed as login shell. The BAT
 file
 invoking the bash login shell calls bash using
 
   bash --login -i
 
 but zsh has no equivalent to the --login option, so I just use
 
   zsh -i

Please, start making sense:
zsh --help | grep -- --login
 

 But maybe someone knows a better way to do this?

Start reading the fine zsh manual *now*, please


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Re: zsh as login shell

2005-10-24 Thread Thorsten Kampe
Urgh, /top-posting/,

* Václav Haisman (2005-10-24 13:35 +0100)
 What about editing /etc/passwd?

That's only used for remote logins (ssh, etc.)


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Re: zsh as login shell

2005-10-24 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 (2005-10-24 13:49 +0100)
 What about editing /etc/passwd? Pesonally, I use customized 
 cygwin.bat.
 
 How exactly would this work? After all, we are talking about Windows
 Batch skripts,
 don't we? And they are not aware of /etc/passwd. 
 
 But maybe I didn't get your point. How do you suggest that I should
 modify my /etc/passwd?

Why don't you try it, consultant?! There's actually just a single
entry referring to a shell.


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Re: zsh as login shell

2005-10-24 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Igor Pechtchanski (2005-10-24 16:36 +0100)
 On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 wrote:
 I would like to have on my Windoze desktop an Icon for zsh running under
 Cygwin...
 [snip]
 Zsh considers itself a login shell iff it is called under a name
 starting with a dash.
 [snip]
 Another possibility would be to execute a shell script using bash and in
 this script do an

   exec -a -zsh zsh -I

 But maybe someone knows a better way to do this?
 
 The latter sounds like the best solution.  You could do it directly from
 the batch file by using
 
 bash -c 'exec -l /usr/bin/zsh -i'

zsh perfectly knows -l/--login. It's the -i that's not needed


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Re: zsh as login shell

2005-10-24 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Thorsten Kampe wrote:

 * Igor Pechtchanski (2005-10-24 16:36 +0100)
  On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 wrote:
  I would like to have on my Windoze desktop an Icon for zsh running under
  Cygwin...
  [snip]
  Zsh considers itself a login shell iff it is called under a name
  starting with a dash.
  [snip]
  Another possibility would be to execute a shell script using bash and in
  this script do an
 
exec -a -zsh zsh -I
 
  But maybe someone knows a better way to do this?
 
  The latter sounds like the best solution.  You could do it directly from
  the batch file by using
 
  bash -c 'exec -l /usr/bin/zsh -i'

 zsh perfectly knows -l/--login. It's the -i that's not needed

Thanks for the clarification, Thorsten.  As I don't know anything about
using zsh, I was suggesting a way of modifying cygwin.bat appropriately.

The above method could be used for shells that don't understand --login
(e.g., ash) or those where using the --login flag is inconvenient (e.g.,
when you want to pass more options to a tcsh login shell).
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Re: zsh as login shell

2005-10-24 Thread Peter A. Castro

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 wrote:

Greetings, Ronald,


I would like to have on my Windoze desktop an Icon for zsh running under

Cygwin, similar to the standard Cygwin Icon which runs a bash login
shell, so that I can choose whether to get a window using bash or using
zsh.


Use mkzsh to do this.  For help, type 'mkzsh --help'

eg:

mkzsh --desktop


It works kind of, but I can't get zsh executed as login shell. The BAT
file invoking the bash login shell calls bash using

 bash --login -i


See the '-l' option of zsh in the manpages.

eg:

zsh -l


but zsh has no equivalent to the --login option, so I just use

 zsh -i

which makes the shell interactive, but not login. Zsh considers itself a
login
shell iff it is called under a name starting with a dash.

Is there an elegant solution to this problem? Of course I could

 cp -- zsh -zsh

and call -zsh, but I would have then to redo this everytime I update zsh
to a
newer version. Another possibility would be to execute a shell script
using
bash and in this script do an

 exec -a -zsh zsh -I

But maybe someone knows a better way to do this?

Ronald
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RE: zsh as login shell

2005-10-24 Thread Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3
 
 Use mkzsh to do this.  For help, type 'mkzsh --help'

Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for.

  It works kind of, but I can't get zsh executed as login 
 shell. The BAT
  file invoking the bash login shell calls bash using
 
   bash --login -i
 
 See the '-l' option of zsh in the manpages.

Thank you, this works equally well.

I had searched the manpages for this option, but overlooked it...

Ronald

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