cygwin licensing [was: [re: tar and gzip]]

2003-03-28 Thread Greg Freemyer
Good write-up.

Is any portion of cygwin covered by the LGPL instead of the GPL?

http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html

The LGPL explicitly allows proprietary software to be built on top of opensource 
libraries.

TIA
Greg
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Greg Freemyer

 >>  > > Hi all!
 >>  > >
 >>  > > I wrote a small script in Python, but it requires two programs to run
 >>  > > correctly: tar.exe and gzip.exe. Both are in CygWin package.
 >>  > And that's my
 >>  > > question: can I bundle both programs and cygwin1.dll with my script?
 >>  > Script
 >>  > > is free, but the program that the script comes with is not.
 >>  > >
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 >>  > >
 >>  > These are just my thoughts and I'm not a lawyer.
 >>  >
 >>  > It doesn't sound like your proprietary program is derived from or based
 >>  on
 >>  > any Cygwin source code.  Does it execute the Python script which
 >>  executes
 >>  > tar.exe?  If it does, I don't think even that would put it under the
 >>  GPL.
 >>  > The GPL states that the "act of running the Program is not restricted".
 >>  > Your program can execute Cygwin binaries without it becoming GPL
 >>  software.
 >>  >
 >>  > If you link to Cygwin source code, then your program would be a
 >>  derivative
 >>  > work under the GPL.  However, I believe you could also link to another
 >>  > proprietary third party library without providing it's source code.  For
 >>  > instance, you could link to a Microsoft library without being required
 >>  to
 >>  > provide Microsoft source code.

 >>  This is not true. It is ok to link with certain Microsoft DLLs because the
 >>  GPL makes the following exception:
 >>  However, as a special exception, the source code distributed need not
 >>  include anything that is normally distributed (in either source or
 >>  binary form) with the major components (compiler, kernel, and so on)
 >>  of
 >>  the operating system on which the executable runs, unless that
 >>  component itself accompanies the executable.
 >>  However this exception does not apply to other DLLs, only those considered
 >>  part of the operating system.

 >>  >
 >>  > Going one step further, you could put your proprietary code into a
 >>  > standalone DLL built using Microsoft tools.  You could market the DLL as
 >>  a
 >>  > separate product.  The DLL would have no dependencies on any Cygwin
 >>  source
 >>  > or binary.  Your Cygwin based application could us it just like any
 >>  other
 >>  > third party library without providing source code for the DLL.  I
 >>  > don't see
 >>  > GPL language that would prevent this.

 >>  >From the GPL FAQ
 >>  (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#LinkingWithGPL):

 >>  You have a GPL'ed program that I'd like to link with my code to build a
 >>  proprietary program. Does the fact that I link with your program mean I
 >>  have
 >>  to GPL my program?
 >>  Yes.

 >>  and:

 >>  What is the difference between "mere aggregation" and "combining two
 >>  modules
 >>  into one program"?
 >>  Mere aggregation of two programs means putting them side by side on
 >>  the
 >>  same CD-ROM or hard disk. We use this term in the case where they are
 >>  separate programs, not parts of a single program. In this case, if one of
 >>  the programs is covered by the GPL, it has no effect on the other program.

 >>  Combining two modules means connecting them together so that they form
 >>  a
 >>  single larger program. If either part is covered by the GPL, the whole
 >>  combination must also be released under the GPL--if you can't, or won't,
 >>  do
 >>  that, you may not combine them.

 >>  What constitutes combining two parts into one program? This is a legal
 >>  question, which ultimately judges will decide. We believe that a proper
 >>  criterion depends both on the mechanism of communication (exec, pipes,
 >>  rpc,
 >>  function calls within a shared address space, etc.) and the semantics of
 >>  the
 >>  communication (what kinds of information are interchanged).

 >>  If the modules are included in the same executable file, they are
 >>  definitely combined in one program. *** -> If modules are designed to
 >>  run linked together in a shared address space, that almost surely means
 >>  combining them into one program. <- ***

 >>  By contrast, pipes, sockets and command-line arguments are
 >>  communication
 >>  mechanisms normally used between two separate programs. So when they are
 >>  used for communication, the modules normally are separate programs. But if
 >>  the semantics of the communication are intimate enough, exchanging complex
 >>  internal data structures, that too could be a basis to consider the two
 >>  parts as combined into a larger program.

 >>  and:

 >>  I'd like to incorporate GPL-covered software in my proprietary system. Can
 >>  I
 >>  do this?
 >>  You cannot

Re: cygwin licensing [was: [re: tar and gzip]]

2003-03-29 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 11:18:17AM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
> Good write-up.
> 
> Is any portion of cygwin covered by the LGPL instead of the GPL?

No.

Corinna

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