Re: fvwm ignores clickToFocus for function keys
When typing in an in-focus xterm, but the mouse cursor is elsewhere, if I hit a function key, the programmed action does not occur. Instead, something else occurs, which I cannot identify (involving insertion of characters and/or other actions). When the mouse is positioned directly inside the window, the programmed action occurs normally. This is different than the operation of fvwm under linux. In that case, an in-focus xterm takes function key input as well as other key input, regardless where the mouse cursor is. Thus, if I have programmed the xterm F12 key to send: 21 | less nl it is only received by bash if the mouse is positioned inside the window. This is a problem if I entered a command (other key input obeys the clickToFocus directive) and then hit F12, and some unidentifiable garbage gets inserted. I can't verify that this is a cygwin problem, but hours of googling haven't revealed any mention of the problem at all, an any platform. Interestingly, I just noticed that the arrow keys seem to work normally, regardless of the position of the mouse. It's only the function keys that behave poorly. Any help will be appreciated. I keep discovering new things about this problem. I'd said previously that under linux this did not happen. Not quite true. It turns out that it happens if my mouse is positioned over xterm's scroll bars! If the mouse is over the in-focus window, or any other window, or the root, the function keys work properly. But if the mouse is positioned over the scroll bars, it sends garbage! Furthermore, I just discovered something even more interesting - if the mouse is positioned over the title bar, the cut buffer gets modified ... uh oh, this is starting to sound like a configuration issue... but that was all on linux (suse 10.3). On cygwin it's wrong whenever the mouse is not over the in-focus window. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: fvwm ignores clickToFocus for function keys
On 26/09/2010 12:28, Charles Smith wrote: This conversation was transferred from the cygwin main list because Larry Hall said it was xfree-specific... From: Morgan Gangwere0 dot fractalus at gmail dot com Sounds like something is trashing a buffer... however I'm not entirely sure. ... Sounds oddly configuration related... then again, i don't use fvwm on windows. My suspicion is that it has to do with the cut-buffers/clip-board-mechanism, somehow. I'd said previously that what gets sent (when a function key is pressed but the mouse cursor isn't over the in-focus window) is the unmapped version of the function key. It might also be some earlier contents of the cut-buffer, or something like that. I'm still trying to track it down. Being able to cut-and-paste between windows and cygwin is important, and I'm glad that this evolving capability is so far along... but is it possible to disable it, at least for debugging purposes? 'man XWin' [1] documents the -noclipboard option. [1] http://x.cygwin.com/docs/man1/XWin.1.html -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: fvwm ignores clickToFocus for function keys
This conversation was transferred from the cygwin main list because Larry Hall said it was xfree-specific... From: Morgan Gangwere 0 dot fractalus at gmail dot com Sounds like something is trashing a buffer... however I'm not entirely sure. ... Sounds oddly configuration related... then again, i don't use fvwm on windows. My suspicion is that it has to do with the cut-buffers/clip-board-mechanism, somehow. I'd said previously that what gets sent (when a function key is pressed but the mouse cursor isn't over the in-focus window) is the unmapped version of the function key. It might also be some earlier contents of the cut-buffer, or something like that. I'm still trying to track it down. Being able to cut-and-paste between windows and cygwin is important, and I'm glad that this evolving capability is so far along... but is it possible to disable it, at least for debugging purposes? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: fvwm ignores clickToFocus for function keys
This is different than the operation of fvwm under linux. In that case, an in-focus xterm takes function key input as well as other key input, regardless where the mouse cursor is. a) Are you running fvwm under a rootless X11? b) are your configs the same? Ah, you mean on cygwin and on linux? Yes, that's the beauty of the thing. As far as a rootless X11 goes ... I don't know how to configure that. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: fvwm ignores clickToFocus for function keys
On 9/21/2010 12:14 PM, Charles Smith wrote: This is different than the operation of fvwm under linux. In that case, an in-focus xterm takes function key input as well as other key input, regardless where the mouse cursor is. a) Are you running fvwm under a rootless X11? b) are your configs the same? Ah, you mean on cygwin and on linux? Yes, that's the beauty of the thing. As far as a rootless X11 goes ... I don't know how to configure that. Cygwin-X User's Guide to the rescue! :-) http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/configure.html -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: fvwm ignores clickToFocus for function keys
Cygwin-X User's Guide to the rescue! :-) Okay, I'll give that a try ... except ... can I run FVWM rootless? Where will it go? Doesn't rootless mode mean that the Windows window manager is used? BTW, I have identified what gets sent when the cursor is NOT inside the bounds of the window: it's the *unmapped* version of the function key. Okay, here's the information I forgot to supply (or only hinted at): I use the xterm.VT100.Translations resource (in my .Xdefaults file) to map the function keys: xterm*VT100.Translations: #override \n\ Key Print: string(0x7f) \n\ Key Pause: insert-selection(PRIMARY, CUT_BUFFER0) \n\ Ctrl Key Prior: scroll-back(1,halfpage) \n\ Ctrl Key Next: scroll-forw(1,halfpage) \n\ \ Shift Key Up: string(0x1b) string(OAA) \n\ Shift Key Down: string(0x1b) string(OBB) \n\ \ Ctrl Key 3: string(0x1b) string() \n\ Ctrl Key 4: string(0x1b) string(_) \n\ \ Shift Key F7: string(/media/) \n\ Shift Key F8: string([|]) \n\ Shift Key F9: string(0x1b) string([35~) \n\ Shift Key F10: string(0x1b) string([36~) \n\ Shift Key F11: string( 21 | ) \n\ Shift Key F12: string( 21 | tee -a make.$md\n) \n\ \ Alt Key F2: keymap(vt100)\n\ Alt Key F1: keymap(None)\n\ \ Key F1: string(0x1b) string(_) \n\ Key F4: string($ARCH/) \n\ Key F5: string(../Include/%:t:r.hpp) \n\ Key F6: string(../Source/%:t:r.cpp) \n\ Key F7: string(-next) \n\ Key F8: string() \n\ Key F9: insert-selection(PRIMARY, CUT_BUFFER0) \n\ Key F10: string( 21 | ) \n\ Key F11: string( 21 | head\n) \n\ Key F12: string( 21 | less\n) So, for example, if I hit F12 when the mouse cursor is outside the bounds of the window, ^[[24~ gets inserted onto my command line. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: fvwm ignores clickToFocus for function keys
On 9/21/2010 3:39 PM, Charles Smith wrote: Cygwin-X User's Guide to the rescue!:-) Okay, I'll give that a try ... except ... can I run FVWM rootless? Where will it go? Doesn't rootless mode mean that the Windows window manager is used? No. From the link to the documentation: Note: This is typically used to work with local or remote X applications, integrated into your native Windows desktop, but controlled using the X window manager of your choice. You're thinking of -multiwindow. This topic really is X-specific. It's more appropriate to use the cygwin-xfree list, which handles Cygwin X issues and questions. Please follow-up there with any further replies. Thanks, -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: fvwm ignores clickToFocus for function keys
a) Are you running fvwm under a rootless X11? No, but I will try that at work tomorrow and report back b) are your configs the same? The same as what? Sorry, I don't understand the question. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: fvwm ignores clickToFocus for function keys
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Charles Smith cts.priv...@yahoo.com wrote: When typing in an in-focus xterm, but the mouse cursor is elsewhere, if I hit a function key, the programmed action does not occur. Instead, something else occurs, which I cannot identify (involving insertion of characters and/or other actions). When the mouse is positioned directly inside the window, the programmed action occurs normally. This is different than the operation of fvwm under linux. In that case, an in-focus xterm takes function key input as well as other key input, regardless where the mouse cursor is. a) Are you running fvwm under a rootless X11? b) are your configs the same? Thus, if I have programmed the xterm F12 key to send: 21 | less nl it is only received by bash if the mouse is positioned inside the window. This is a problem if I entered a command (other key input obeys the clickToFocus directive) and then hit F12, and some unidentifiable garbage gets inserted. Sounds like something is trashing a buffer... however I'm not entirely sure. I can't verify that this is a cygwin problem, but hours of googling haven't revealed any mention of the problem at all, an any platform. See the 2 questions above... Interestingly, I just noticed that the arrow keys seem to work normally, regardless of the position of the mouse. It's only the function keys that behave poorly. Sounds oddly configuration related... then again, i don't use fvwm on windows. --~-- Morgan Gangwere signature.asc Description: PGP signature
