getopt output reordering (was: xmlto package install question)

2003-08-07 Thread Patrick Eisenacher
Talking to Tim Waugh, the author of xmlto, revealed that the order of 
arguments doesn't matter on his system (that's Red Hat, I guess), 
whereas it matters indeed on Cygwin.

Investigating it a bit further revealed that Cygwin's getopt differs 
from what he expected:

getopt -- o: xmlto -o foo bar

should output this:

 -o 'foo' -- 'xmlto' 'bar'
Cygwin's getopt outputs like this:

$ getopt -- o: xmlto -o foo bar
 -- 'xmlto' '-o' 'foo' 'bar'
Checking the archive I found a thread from back in January talking about 
the inability of Cygwin's getopt to do reordering of arguments. I guess 
we're facing here the same issue: the option arguments are not output 
before the non-option arguments.

Was any work done wrt this issue? Is anything planned?

Tim is going to update the xmlto usage information to reflect the proper 
order of arguments.

Patrick

Gerrit P. Haase schrieb:

usage: xmlto FORMAT [OPTION]... XML
OPTIONs are:
  -v  verbose output (-vv for very verbose)
  -x stylesheet   use the specified stylesheet instead of choosing one
  -m fragment use the XSL fragment to customize the stylesheet
  -o directoryput output in the specified directory instead of
  the current working directory


It only works if you swap 'FORMAT [OPTIONS]' to '[OPTIONS] FORMAT'
which is what I found in the patch included in the source package.




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Re: getopt output reordering (was: xmlto package install question)

2003-08-05 Thread Max Bowsher
Patrick Eisenacher wrote:
 Talking to Tim Waugh, the author of xmlto, revealed that the order of
 arguments doesn't matter on his system (that's Red Hat, I guess),
 whereas it matters indeed on Cygwin.

 Investigating it a bit further revealed that Cygwin's getopt differs
 from what he expected:

 getopt -- o: xmlto -o foo bar

 should output this:

  -o 'foo' -- 'xmlto' 'bar'

 Cygwin's getopt outputs like this:

 $ getopt -- o: xmlto -o foo bar
   -- 'xmlto' '-o' 'foo' 'bar'

 Checking the archive I found a thread from back in January talking about
 the inability of Cygwin's getopt to do reordering of arguments. I guess
 we're facing here the same issue: the option arguments are not output
 before the non-option arguments.

 Was any work done wrt this issue? Is anything planned?

IIRC, the end result of the discussion was that no consensus could be
reached on whether it was better to reorder or not to reorder, so CGF had to
make a ruling, and he ruled not to reorder.

Reordering can be enabled by setting POSIXLY_INCORRECT_GETOPT in the
environment, but because getopt is statically linked, this only works for
programs rebuilt since this change was made, and many haven't been yet.

Max.


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