Re: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-10 Thread Carlo Florendo

Roy Wiseman wrote:


I agree that Symantec are a bit of satanic
corporation, 



So you think this is not an insult to the corporation?:)

PS.  If ever you reply, please direct all the mails to the cygwin-talk 
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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-10 Thread Roy Wiseman
Hi Igor,

 Also, as your cygcheck output shows, you are in a
domain.  It's quite possible that the domain
controller really is taking more than 30 minutes to
return the set of users and groups (for large
domains).

Yes, as you say, I can see the output from tee and it
shows that this will take forever (there are 10's of
thousands of users in this domain, and after 15
minutes, it resolved 50 or 60 user, ... so this way
madness lies).

But this raises a question : on a normal install of
cygwin, it does not take 14 days to install cygwin,
but if the setup program is also generating a mkpasswd
-d then it would also take this time. How is setup
doing things differently so that it creates
/etc/passwd and /etc/group in a few seconds instead of
a few weeks ?

 mkpasswd -d -l | tee /etc/passwd

net user nlwiso as far as I know doesn't tell anything
about AD group membership etc. but I'm in a lot of
groups, it's a massive corporate network, so the
mkpasswd is slow ...

 Perhaps the local domain (i.e., the current
computer) isn't handled in the same way.

yep, that is the case in domains.

 See http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html.

ok, this is very useful.

 The commands you quoted will have destroyed your
/etc/passwd completely. Try re-running the commands I
gave you.

 Did you run mkpasswd -c -l, like I told you?

yep, do you mean -c or -d here ? I've done both, -d is
taking forever to resolve, -c does resolve, but I
still get the same incorrect logon when i do -c with
mkpasswd and mkgroup.

the commands are running, and I see how things should
go I think, but i'm still left wondering, how can
setup.exe do in 1 minute what mkpasswd -d -l 
/etc/passwd is looking to take days or weeks to
complete (there seriously are 10's of thousands of
users on that emea domain so it would take forever at
the speed I was seeing) ?

Regards,

Roy.



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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-10 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message
From: Roy Wiseman
Sent: 09 June 2005 22:05


 (can't say I liked the insult much Dave, but my
 mistake was accidental you know. Maybe it's a Scottish
 thing that we treat people with respect until they
 disrespect us, I guess we don't think we should have
 to put up with insults from anyone, ... we're stubborn
 that way !).


  I'm stubborn too, but thank you for not quoting my raw email address any
more!


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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-10 Thread Larry Hall
At 04:56 AM 6/10/2005, you wrote:
 Did you run mkpasswd -c -l, like I told you?

yep, do you mean -c or -d here ? I've done both, -d is
taking forever to resolve, -c does resolve, but I
still get the same incorrect logon when i do -c with
mkpasswd and mkgroup.

the commands are running, and I see how things should
go I think, but i'm still left wondering, how can
setup.exe do in 1 minute what mkpasswd -d -l 
/etc/passwd is looking to take days or weeks to
complete (there seriously are 10's of thousands of
users on that emea domain so it would take forever at
the speed I was seeing) ?


Look at '/etc/postinstall/passwd-grp.sh.done'.  This is the postinstall 
script that's run to generate '/etc/passwd' and '/etc/group' initially
during install.  Then take a look at 'man mkpasswd' and 'man mkgroup' to
get a better understanding of the switches you see used there.  

If there is more than 1 domain but you only care about one, you can 
specify that domain name with '-d' and speed things up a bit.  But if
you need all users from all domains, you're stuck with your slow domain.


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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-10 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message
From: Larry Hall
Sent: 10 June 2005 14:55

 At 04:56 AM 6/10/2005, you wrote:
 Did you run mkpasswd -c -l, like I told you?
 
 yep, do you mean -c or -d here ? I've done both, -d is
 taking forever to resolve, -c does resolve, but I
 still get the same incorrect logon when i do -c with mkpasswd and
 mkgroup. 
 
 the commands are running, and I see how things should
 go I think, but i'm still left wondering, how can
 setup.exe do in 1 minute what mkpasswd -d -l 
 /etc/passwd is looking to take days or weeks to
 complete (there seriously are 10's of thousands of
 users on that emea domain so it would take forever at
 the speed I was seeing) ?

 If there is more than 1 domain but you only care about one, you can
 specify that domain name with '-d' and speed things up a bit.  But if
 you need all users from all domains, you're stuck with your slow domain.


  Since Roy is installing cygwin to a whole load of machines, and assuming
that they're all in the same domain, it ought to be possible to run
mkpasswd -d domain-passwd and mkgroup -d domain-group just once each,
bundle the two output files up along with the rest of the distribution he's
been installing, then on each new machine, after installing, you'd run a
little script like

mkpasswd -l  /etc/passwd
mkgroup -l  /etc/group
cat domain-passwd  /etc/passwd
cat domain-group  /etc/group

  That ought to speed up the per-machine install time quite nicely,
shouldn't it?  Or is there some reason it wouldn't work?


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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-10 Thread Larry Hall
At 10:12 AM 6/10/2005, you wrote:
Original Message
From: Larry Hall
Sent: 10 June 2005 14:55

 At 04:56 AM 6/10/2005, you wrote:
 Did you run mkpasswd -c -l, like I told you?
 
 yep, do you mean -c or -d here ? I've done both, -d is
 taking forever to resolve, -c does resolve, but I
 still get the same incorrect logon when i do -c with mkpasswd and
 mkgroup. 
 
 the commands are running, and I see how things should
 go I think, but i'm still left wondering, how can
 setup.exe do in 1 minute what mkpasswd -d -l 
 /etc/passwd is looking to take days or weeks to
 complete (there seriously are 10's of thousands of
 users on that emea domain so it would take forever at
 the speed I was seeing) ?

 If there is more than 1 domain but you only care about one, you can
 specify that domain name with '-d' and speed things up a bit.  But if
 you need all users from all domains, you're stuck with your slow domain.


  Since Roy is installing cygwin to a whole load of machines, and assuming
that they're all in the same domain, it ought to be possible to run
mkpasswd -d domain-passwd and mkgroup -d domain-group just once each,
bundle the two output files up along with the rest of the distribution he's
been installing, then on each new machine, after installing, you'd run a
little script like

mkpasswd -l  /etc/passwd
mkgroup -l  /etc/group
cat domain-passwd  /etc/passwd
cat domain-group  /etc/group

  That ought to speed up the per-machine install time quite nicely,
shouldn't it?  Or is there some reason it wouldn't work?


Not that I can see.  I'm not sure whether or not Roy's complaint was
aimed at the time it takes to do this once or a lamenting of how this 
will slow down a multi-machine rollout in the same domain.  I responded
as if it were the former.  But if it's the latter, your response is more
suitable.


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passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Roy Wiseman
Hello,

I work in a corporate environment, with very limited
internet access, and I want to distribute cygwin to
some sysadmins who can make good use of these tools. I
cannot run the cygwin setup across the internet, and I
do not want to download all the binaries to put on the
server. We want to package a specific subset of cygwin
that we require into a package that we can distribute
to sysadmins. I've done this and it works very well,
except for the passwd and group security information
generation which is tied to the machine the install
was done on, and I have no idea how to change this.

The message I get on running cygwin.bat on any other
system but the one where it is installed is :

C:\cygwincygwin
Your group is currently mkpasswd.  This indicates
that
the /etc/passwd (and possibly /etc/group) files should
be rebuilt.
See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then, for
example, run
mkpasswd -l [-d]  /etc/passwd
mkgroup  -l [-d]  /etc/group
Note that the -d switch is necessary for domain users.

I expect this is to do with the passwd and group files
from what I know of unix, and these instructions have
something to do with the solution, but I have tried
these commands in every possible way that I can think
of, but cannot get this error to disappear and
properly register cygwin for the user. I've tried
googling and all the commands I can think of, but I'm
stumped.

Please, can someone tell me how to correct this in the
cygwin system so that I can distribute it to the
sysadmins that would like to use these excellent tools
?

Thanks  Best Regards,

Roy Wiseman.




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Re: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Roy Wiseman (2005-06-09 13:34 +0100)
 Hello,
 
 I work in a corporate environment, with very limited
 internet access, and I want to distribute cygwin to
 some sysadmins who can make good use of these tools. I
 cannot run the cygwin setup across the internet, and I
 do not want to download all the binaries to put on the
 server. We want to package a specific subset of cygwin
 that we require into a package that we can distribute
 to sysadmins. I've done this and it works very well,
 except for the passwd and group security information
 generation which is tied to the machine the install
 was done on, and I have no idea how to change this.
 
 The message I get on running cygwin.bat on any other
 system but the one where it is installed is :
 
 C:\cygwincygwin
 Your group is currently mkpasswd.  This indicates
 that
 the /etc/passwd (and possibly /etc/group) files should
 be rebuilt.
 See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then, for
 example, run
 mkpasswd -l [-d]  /etc/passwd
 mkgroup  -l [-d]  /etc/group
 Note that the -d switch is necessary for domain users.
 
 I expect this is to do with the passwd and group files
 from what I know of unix, and these instructions have
 something to do with the solution, but I have tried
 these commands in every possible way that I can think
 of, but cannot get this error to disappear and
 properly register cygwin for the user. I've tried
 googling and all the commands I can think of, but I'm
 stumped.
 
 Please, can someone tell me how to correct this in the
 cygwin system so that I can distribute it to the
 sysadmins that would like to use these excellent tools
 ?

If in a domain, use -d. Read  /etc/postinstall/passwd-grp.sh.done
and /etc/profile. It all depends how you log on: domain or local
account.


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Re: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Roy Wiseman wrote:

 Hello,

 I work in a corporate environment, with very limited
 internet access, and I want to distribute cygwin to
 some sysadmins who can make good use of these tools. I
 cannot run the cygwin setup across the internet, and I
 do not want to download all the binaries to put on the
 server. We want to package a specific subset of cygwin
 that we require into a package that we can distribute
 to sysadmins. I've done this and it works very well,

I would be a bit cautious in this situation.  It's true that most Cygwin
programs will work just fine when copied from machine to machine.
However, some other things, specifically hard and symbolic links, are
created during the postinstall phase, and may be specific to the
installation machine.  Unless the other machines have exactly the same
configuration, there may be inconsistencies in the copied installation.

You'll also need to replicate the mounts, which I suspect is your current
problem anyway.  Run 'mount -m  /mounts.bat' on the machine you use as
the template installation, and run /mounts.bat after copying.  And you
will need to regenerate /etc/passwd and /etc/group (since that information
is also machine-specific).  You can add the two commands reported
(mkpasswd and mkgroup) to the end of /mounts.bat.

 except for the passwd and group security information
 generation which is tied to the machine the install
 was done on, and I have no idea how to change this.

 The message I get on running cygwin.bat on any other
 system but the one where it is installed is :

 C:\cygwincygwin
 Your group is currently mkpasswd.  This indicates that
 the /etc/passwd (and possibly /etc/group) files should
 be rebuilt.
 See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then, for
 example, run
 mkpasswd -l [-d]  /etc/passwd
 mkgroup  -l [-d]  /etc/group
 Note that the -d switch is necessary for domain users.

 I expect this is to do with the passwd and group files
 from what I know of unix, and these instructions have
 something to do with the solution, but I have tried
 these commands in every possible way that I can think
 of, but cannot get this error to disappear and
 properly register cygwin for the user. I've tried
 googling and all the commands I can think of, but I'm
 stumped.

 Please, can someone tell me how to correct this in the
 cygwin system so that I can distribute it to the
 sysadmins that would like to use these excellent tools?

It would have been better had you followed the instructions in the Cygwin
problem reporting guidelines at http://cygwin.com/problems.html and
attached the output of cygcheck -svr on the failing system.  Without
that information, the above guess (missing mounts) is all I can offer.

HTH,
Igor
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Re: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Roy Wiseman
Hi Igor,

those mount commands don't seem to do much for this
situation. same problems.
you mention the hard and symbolic links, are created
during the postinstall phase. this is very
interesting, are there no commands to make that
process rerun outside of the postinstall phase ?
I've attached my cygcheck.out file here.

my current situation is :
- mkpasswd (with -l and/or -d) does nothing, this
command hangs for over 30 minutes, and does nothing
- mkgroup (with -l and/or -d) does nothing, this
command hangs for over 30 minutes, and does nothing
- mount -m  /mounts.bat is no help, same errors
apply.
- is there some way to make the postinstall process
kick off again, outside of the setup process ?

Best Regards,

Roy.




--- Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Roy Wiseman wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I work in a corporate environment, with very
 limited
  internet access, and I want to distribute cygwin
 to
  some sysadmins who can make good use of these
 tools. I
  cannot run the cygwin setup across the internet,
 and I
  do not want to download all the binaries to put on
 the
  server. We want to package a specific subset of
 cygwin
  that we require into a package that we can
 distribute
  to sysadmins. I've done this and it works very
 well,
 
 I would be a bit cautious in this situation.  It's
 true that most Cygwin
 programs will work just fine when copied from
 machine to machine.
 However, some other things, specifically hard and
 symbolic links, are
 created during the postinstall phase, and may be
 specific to the
 installation machine.  Unless the other machines
 have exactly the same
 configuration, there may be inconsistencies in the
 copied installation.
 
 You'll also need to replicate the mounts, which I
 suspect is your current
 problem anyway.  Run 'mount -m  /mounts.bat' on the
 machine you use as
 the template installation, and run /mounts.bat after
 copying.  And you
 will need to regenerate /etc/passwd and /etc/group
 (since that information
 is also machine-specific).  You can add the two
 commands reported
 (mkpasswd and mkgroup) to the end of /mounts.bat.
 
  except for the passwd and group security
 information
  generation which is tied to the machine the
 install
  was done on, and I have no idea how to change
 this.
 
  The message I get on running cygwin.bat on any
 other
  system but the one where it is installed is :
 
  C:\cygwincygwin
  Your group is currently mkpasswd.  This
 indicates that
  the /etc/passwd (and possibly /etc/group) files
 should
  be rebuilt.
  See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then,
 for
  example, run
  mkpasswd -l [-d]  /etc/passwd
  mkgroup  -l [-d]  /etc/group
  Note that the -d switch is necessary for domain
 users.
 
  I expect this is to do with the passwd and group
 files
  from what I know of unix, and these instructions
 have
  something to do with the solution, but I have
 tried
  these commands in every possible way that I can
 think
  of, but cannot get this error to disappear and
  properly register cygwin for the user. I've tried
  googling and all the commands I can think of, but
 I'm
  stumped.
 
  Please, can someone tell me how to correct this in
 the
  cygwin system so that I can distribute it to the
  sysadmins that would like to use these excellent
 tools?
 
 It would have been better had you followed the
 instructions in the Cygwin
 problem reporting guidelines at
 http://cygwin.com/problems.html and
 attached the output of cygcheck -svr on the
 failing system.  Without
 that information, the above guess (missing mounts)
 is all I can offer.
 
 HTH,
   Igor
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Re: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Roy Wiseman

Hi,

I guess the main question that I'm asking from the
below is :

on a clean system without cygwin where setup.exe is
run, after the files have been installed to c:\cygwin
(or wherever), how do I run the process that
binds/registers these files into a working cygwin
system ?  (i.e. the process that deals with mount
points, security files and hard / symbolic links).

this process is obviously run every time that
setup.exe is run, so is this procedure a secret locked
in setup.exe which, instead of a well known process
that anyone can run ?

I think if I can find out this process, then all the
problems that I have will be very simply solved
completely :)

Best Regards,

Roy.


--- Roy Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Igor,
 
 those mount commands don't seem to do much for this
 situation. same problems.
 you mention the hard and symbolic links, are created
 during the postinstall phase. this is very
 interesting, are there no commands to make that
 process rerun outside of the postinstall phase ?
 I've attached my cygcheck.out file here.
 
 my current situation is :
 - mkpasswd (with -l and/or -d) does nothing, this
 command hangs for over 30 minutes, and does nothing
 - mkgroup (with -l and/or -d) does nothing, this
 command hangs for over 30 minutes, and does nothing
 - mount -m  /mounts.bat is no help, same errors
 apply.
 - is there some way to make the postinstall process
 kick off again, outside of the setup process ?
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Roy.
 
 
 
 
 --- Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Roy Wiseman wrote:
  
   Hello,
  
   I work in a corporate environment, with very
  limited
   internet access, and I want to distribute cygwin
  to
   some sysadmins who can make good use of these
  tools. I
   cannot run the cygwin setup across the internet,
  and I
   do not want to download all the binaries to put
 on
  the
   server. We want to package a specific subset of
  cygwin
   that we require into a package that we can
  distribute
   to sysadmins. I've done this and it works very
  well,
  
  I would be a bit cautious in this situation.  It's
  true that most Cygwin
  programs will work just fine when copied from
  machine to machine.
  However, some other things, specifically hard and
  symbolic links, are
  created during the postinstall phase, and may be
  specific to the
  installation machine.  Unless the other machines
  have exactly the same
  configuration, there may be inconsistencies in the
  copied installation.
  
  You'll also need to replicate the mounts, which I
  suspect is your current
  problem anyway.  Run 'mount -m  /mounts.bat' on
 the
  machine you use as
  the template installation, and run /mounts.bat
 after
  copying.  And you
  will need to regenerate /etc/passwd and /etc/group
  (since that information
  is also machine-specific).  You can add the two
  commands reported
  (mkpasswd and mkgroup) to the end of /mounts.bat.
  
   except for the passwd and group security
  information
   generation which is tied to the machine the
  install
   was done on, and I have no idea how to change
  this.
  
   The message I get on running cygwin.bat on any
  other
   system but the one where it is installed is :
  
   C:\cygwincygwin
   Your group is currently mkpasswd.  This
  indicates that
   the /etc/passwd (and possibly /etc/group) files
  should
   be rebuilt.
   See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then,
  for
   example, run
   mkpasswd -l [-d]  /etc/passwd
   mkgroup  -l [-d]  /etc/group
   Note that the -d switch is necessary for domain
  users.
  
   I expect this is to do with the passwd and group
  files
   from what I know of unix, and these instructions
  have
   something to do with the solution, but I have
  tried
   these commands in every possible way that I can
  think
   of, but cannot get this error to disappear and
   properly register cygwin for the user. I've
 tried
   googling and all the commands I can think of,
 but
  I'm
   stumped.
  
   Please, can someone tell me how to correct this
 in
  the
   cygwin system so that I can distribute it to the
   sysadmins that would like to use these excellent
  tools?
  
  It would have been better had you followed the
  instructions in the Cygwin
  problem reporting guidelines at
  http://cygwin.com/problems.html and
  attached the output of cygcheck -svr on the
  failing system.  Without
  that information, the above guess (missing mounts)
  is all I can offer.
  
  HTH,
  Igor
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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message
From: Roy Wiseman
Sent: 09 June 2005 16:16


 I've attached my cygcheck.out file here.



  You have multiple incompatible copies of cygwin1.dll in the $PATH; that's
an absolute no-no.


 1158k 2005/04/01 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  cygwin1.dll v0.0 ts=2005/4/1 20:40
Cygwin DLL version info:
DLL version: 1.5.14
DLL epoch: 19
DLL bad signal mask: 19005
DLL old termios: 5
DLL malloc env: 28
API major: 0
API minor: 126
Shared data: 4
DLL identifier: cygwin1
Mount registry: 2
Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
Program options name: Program Options
Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
Cygdrive default prefix: 
Build date: Fri Apr 1 13:40:00 EST 2005
Shared id: cygwin1S4

  224k 2003/08/09 c:\CmdTools\cygncurses7.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  cygncurses7.dll v0.0 ts=2003/8/9 11:24
 1085k 2004/01/19 c:\CmdTools\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  cygwin1.dll v0.0 ts=2004/1/19 6:43
Cygwin DLL version info:
DLL version: 1.5.6
DLL epoch: 19
DLL bad signal mask: 19005
DLL old termios: 5
DLL malloc env: 28
API major: 0
API minor: 108
Shared data: 3
DLL identifier: cygwin1
Mount registry: 2
Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
Program options name: Program Options
Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
Cygdrive default prefix: 
Build date: Mon Jan 19 00:43:36 EST 2004
CVS tag: cr-0x9d
Shared id: cygwin1S3

Warning: There are multiple cygwin1.dlls on your path


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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Roy Wiseman

ok, thanks Dave, do you know which I should remove to
fix that and any settings that I should change ?

(I don't know how this could have happened as well, as
I did a fresh installation in a single step and
captured it in Wise Package Studio to see every file
and registry change made to the system, so it seems
very strange that this could have happened).



--- Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Original Message
 From: Roy Wiseman
 Sent: 09 June 2005 16:16
 
 
  I've attached my cygcheck.out file here.
 
 
 
   You have multiple incompatible copies of
 cygwin1.dll in the $PATH; that's
 an absolute no-no.
 
 
  1158k 2005/04/01 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0
 img=1.0 sys=4.0
   cygwin1.dll v0.0 ts=2005/4/1
 20:40
 Cygwin DLL version info:
 DLL version: 1.5.14
 DLL epoch: 19
 DLL bad signal mask: 19005
 DLL old termios: 5
 DLL malloc env: 28
 API major: 0
 API minor: 126
 Shared data: 4
 DLL identifier: cygwin1
 Mount registry: 2
 Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
 Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
 Program options name: Program Options
 Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
 Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
 Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
 Cygdrive default prefix: 
 Build date: Fri Apr 1 13:40:00 EST 2005
 Shared id: cygwin1S4
 
   224k 2003/08/09 c:\CmdTools\cygncurses7.dll -
 os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
   cygncurses7.dll v0.0 ts=2003/8/9
 11:24
  1085k 2004/01/19 c:\CmdTools\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0
 img=1.0 sys=4.0
   cygwin1.dll v0.0 ts=2004/1/19
 6:43
 Cygwin DLL version info:
 DLL version: 1.5.6
 DLL epoch: 19
 DLL bad signal mask: 19005
 DLL old termios: 5
 DLL malloc env: 28
 API major: 0
 API minor: 108
 Shared data: 3
 DLL identifier: cygwin1
 Mount registry: 2
 Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
 Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
 Program options name: Program Options
 Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
 Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
 Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
 Cygdrive default prefix: 
 Build date: Mon Jan 19 00:43:36 EST 2004
 CVS tag: cr-0x9d
 Shared id: cygwin1S3
 
 Warning: There are multiple cygwin1.dlls on your
 path
 
 
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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message
From: Roy Wiseman
Sent: 09 June 2005 16:58

 ok, thanks Dave, do you know which I should remove to
 fix that and any settings that I should change ?
 
 (I don't know how this could have happened as well, as
 I did a fresh installation in a single step and
 captured it in Wise Package Studio to see every file
 and registry change made to the system, so it seems
 very strange that this could have happened).
 
 
 
 --- Dave Korn dave.korn RGHHH  artimi NOo com wrote:
  ^^

  Heh.  The first settings you should change are in your mailer:
http://cygwin.com/acronyms#PCYMTNQREAIYR please!

  As to how they got there, you appear to have some pre-existing
http://cygwin.com/acronyms#3PP package called 'CmdTools' installed on that
PC, which is cygwin-based and has stale and conflicting versions of various
libraries and dlls in it.  Get rid of it and then have another go with
mkpasswd/mkgroup.


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Re: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
Ugh, top-posting.  Reformatted.

On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Roy Wiseman wrote:

 --- Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR.  Thanks.

  On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Roy Wiseman wrote:
 
   Hello,
  
   I work in a corporate environment, with very limited
   internet access, and I want to distribute cygwin to
   some sysadmins who can make good use of these tools. I
   cannot run the cygwin setup across the internet, and I
   do not want to download all the binaries to put on the
   server. We want to package a specific subset of cygwin
   that we require into a package that we can distribute
   to sysadmins. I've done this and it works very well,
 
  I would be a bit cautious in this situation.  It's true that most
  Cygwin programs will work just fine when copied from machine to
  machine. However, some other things, specifically hard and symbolic
  links, are created during the postinstall phase, and may be specific
  to the installation machine.  Unless the other machines have exactly
  the same configuration, there may be inconsistencies in the copied
  installation.
 
  You'll also need to replicate the mounts, which I suspect is your
  current problem anyway.  Run 'mount -m  /mounts.bat' on the machine
  you use as the template installation, and run /mounts.bat after
  copying.  And you will need to regenerate /etc/passwd and /etc/group
  (since that information is also machine-specific).  You can add the
  two commands reported (mkpasswd and mkgroup) to the end of
  /mounts.bat.
 
   except for the passwd and group security information
   generation which is tied to the machine the install
   was done on, and I have no idea how to change this.
  
   The message I get on running cygwin.bat on any other
   system but the one where it is installed is :
  
   C:\cygwincygwin
   Your group is currently mkpasswd.  This indicates that
   the /etc/passwd (and possibly /etc/group) files should
   be rebuilt.
   See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then, for
   example, run
   mkpasswd -l [-d]  /etc/passwd
   mkgroup  -l [-d]  /etc/group
   Note that the -d switch is necessary for domain users.
  
   I expect this is to do with the passwd and group files
   from what I know of unix, and these instructions have
   something to do with the solution, but I have tried
   these commands in every possible way that I can think
   of, but cannot get this error to disappear and
   properly register cygwin for the user. I've tried
   googling and all the commands I can think of, but I'm
   stumped.
  
   Please, can someone tell me how to correct this in the
   cygwin system so that I can distribute it to the
   sysadmins that would like to use these excellent tools?
 
  It would have been better had you followed the instructions in the
  Cygwin problem reporting guidelines at
  http://cygwin.com/problems.html and attached the output of cygcheck
  -svr on the failing system.  Without that information, the above
  guess (missing mounts) is all I can offer.

 Hi Igor,

 those mount commands don't seem to do much for this
 situation. same problems.

Have you *run* /mounts.bat on the target machine?  It's unclear whether
your cygcheck output is from the original installation machine or the new
machine.

Regardless, it shows a few unrelated problems with the machine.  First
off, you *do* have multiple Cygwin1.dll's in your path -- very nasty, and
likely to bite you at some point soon.  Secondly, some application
(presumably Norton Ghost) has inserted a quoted string into your PATH,
which confuses Cygwin.  Remove the quotes from the PATH.

Also, as your cygcheck output shows, you are in a domain.  It's quite
possible that the domain controller really is taking more than 30 minutes
to return the set of users and groups (for large domains).  The -u/-g
options of mkpasswd/mkgroup respectively may be helpful.

 you mention the hard and symbolic links, are created
 during the postinstall phase. this is very
 interesting, are there no commands to make that
 process rerun outside of the postinstall phase ?

Sure, they're just scripts.  One potential problem is that some
postinstall scripts create files, and don't modify them once those files
are created.  They rely on a pristine installation to get the files right.
So, if you have such files on the source machine, they may not be correct
on the target machine...

 I've attached my cygcheck.out file here.

 my current situation is :
 - mkpasswd (with -l and/or -d) does nothing, this
 command hangs for over 30 minutes, and does nothing

I'm a bit skeptical about mkpasswd -l alone taking 30 minutes.  Does
net user hang also?  If mkpasswd hangs only with -d, try (mkpasswd -l
-c; mkpasswd -d -u nlwiso)  /etc/passwd.

 - mkgroup (with -l and/or -d) does nothing, this
 command hangs for over 30 minutes, and does nothing

This one's harder, as you'll need to know which groups you're a member of.
You could try running net user nlwiso to find out the 

RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message
From: Igor Pechtchanski
Sent: 09 June 2005 18:09


 likely to bite you at some point soon.  Secondly, some application
 (presumably Norton Ghost) has inserted a quoted string into your PATH,
 which confuses Cygwin.  Remove the quotes from the PATH.

  At this point, I'd just like to say ${DAVEK_ANTI_NORTON_RANT}, and
furthermore,
${DAVEK_ANTI_SYMANTEC_RANT:-${DAVEK_ANTI_NORTON_RANT//NORTON/SYMANTEC}},
while of course it is also true that
${DAVEK_ANTI_MCAFEE_RANT:-${DAVEK_ANTI_SYMANTEC_RANT//SYMANTEC/MCAFEE}}.

 Also, as your cygcheck output shows, you are in a domain.  It's quite
 possible that the domain controller really is taking more than 30 minutes
 to return the set of users and groups (for large domains).  The -u/-g
 options of mkpasswd/mkgroup respectively may be helpful.

  Or indeed running it in such a way that the redirection doesn't prevent
you from seeing what's going on, such as:

mkpasswd -d -l | tee /etc/passwd

which will let you see it spitting out entries one-by-one as the server
sends responses.

 You could try running net user nlwiso to find out the group membership
 (though I'm not certain how to ensure that the user being queried is
 EMEA\nlwiso); 

  net user EMEA\nlwiso.  It's pretty universal in 'doze that wherever you
can put a username, you can put a DOMAIN\user string instead.

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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Roy Wiseman
I agree that Symantec are a bit of satanic
corporation, but ... well, Ghost2003 is actually very
impressive most of the time (apart from breaking
cygwin which is a big problem of course).

ok, I've fixed symantec by taking out the 2  in the
path and I fixed the cygwin1.dll (it was a copy of
testdisk that was in there. testdisk carries it's own
old version of cygwin1.dll around with it) then I did
the mkpasswd and mkgroup stuff as you suggested ...
and this is what I got, but I've no idea what tee it
telling me (now I'm on my home system which is non
domain, my office ABN Amro system is all the
EMEA\nlwiso stuff). This is a lot confusing to me, do
you understand this output ? oh, after this, I still
get the same error unfortunately.

C:\cygwincygwin
Your group is currently mkpasswd.  This indicates
that
the /etc/passwd (and possibly /etc/group) files should
be rebuilt.
See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then, for
example, run
mkpasswd -l [-d]  /etc/passwd
mkgroup  -l [-d]  /etc/group
Note that the -d switch is necessary for domain users.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
$ mkpasswd -d -l | tee /etc/passwd
mkpasswd (731): [2453] Could not find domain
controller for this domain.
SYSTEM:*:18:544:,S-1-5-18::
Administrators:*:544:544:,S-1-5-32-544::
Administrator:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:500:513:U-RAID\Administrator,S-1-5-21-1275210
071-1604221776-725345543-500:/home/Administrator:/bin/bash
ASPNET:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1004:513:ASP.NET Machine
Account,U-RAID\ASPNET,S-1-5
-21-1275210071-1604221776-725345543-1004:/home/ASPNET:/bin/bash
Boss:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1003:513:U-RAID\Boss,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-72
5345543-1003:/home/Boss:/bin/bash
eric:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1005:513:U-RAID\eric,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-72
5345543-1005:/home/eric:/bin/bash
Guest:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:501:513:U-RAID\Guest,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-7
25345543-501:/home/Guest:/bin/bash
HelpAssistant:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1000:513:Remote
Desktop Help Assistant Accoun
t,U-RAID\HelpAssistant,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-725345543-1000:/home/HelpA
ssistant:/bin/bash
SUPPORT_388945a0:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1002:513:CN=Microsoft
Corporation,L=Redmon
d,S=Washington,C=US,U-RAID\SUPPORT_388945a0,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-72534
5543-1002:/home/SUPPORT_388945a0:/bin/bash
__ra_ssh_privsep__:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1008:513:RemotelyAnywhere
SSH Privilege
Separation
User,U-RAID\__ra_ssh_privsep__,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-7253455
43-1008:/home/__ra_ssh_privsep__:/bin/bash
__vmware_user__:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1007:513:__vmware_user__,U-RAID\__vmware_us
er__,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-725345543-1007:/home/__vmware_user__:/bin/ba
sh

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
$ mkpasswd  -l | tee /etc/passwd
SYSTEM:*:18:544:,S-1-5-18::
Administrators:*:544:544:,S-1-5-32-544::
Administrator:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:500:513:U-RAID\Administrator,S-1-5-21-1275210
071-1604221776-725345543-500:/home/Administrator:/bin/bash
ASPNET:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1004:513:ASP.NET Machine
Account,U-RAID\ASPNET,S-1-5
-21-1275210071-1604221776-725345543-1004:/home/ASPNET:/bin/bash
Boss:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1003:513:U-RAID\Boss,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-72
5345543-1003:/home/Boss:/bin/bash
eric:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1005:513:U-RAID\eric,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-72
5345543-1005:/home/eric:/bin/bash
Guest:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:501:513:U-RAID\Guest,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-7
25345543-501:/home/Guest:/bin/bash
HelpAssistant:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1000:513:Remote
Desktop Help Assistant Accoun
t,U-RAID\HelpAssistant,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-725345543-1000:/home/HelpA
ssistant:/bin/bash
SUPPORT_388945a0:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1002:513:CN=Microsoft
Corporation,L=Redmon
d,S=Washington,C=US,U-RAID\SUPPORT_388945a0,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-72534
5543-1002:/home/SUPPORT_388945a0:/bin/bash
__ra_ssh_privsep__:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1008:513:RemotelyAnywhere
SSH Privilege
Separation
User,U-RAID\__ra_ssh_privsep__,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-7253455
43-1008:/home/__ra_ssh_privsep__:/bin/bash
__vmware_user__:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1007:513:__vmware_user__,U-RAID\__vmware_us
er__,S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-725345543-1007:/home/__vmware_user__:/bin/ba
sh

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
$ mkgroup  -l | tee /etc/passwd
SYSTEM:S-1-5-18:18:
None:S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-725345543-513:513:
Administrators:S-1-5-32-544:544:
Backup Operators:S-1-5-32-551:551:
Guests:S-1-5-32-546:546:
Network Configuration Operators:S-1-5-32-556:556:
Power Users:S-1-5-32-547:547:
Remote Desktop Users:S-1-5-32-555:555:
Replicator:S-1-5-32-552:552:
Users:S-1-5-32-545:545:
HelpServicesGroup:S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-725345543-1001:1001:
__vmware__:S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-725345543-1006:1006:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
$ mkgroup  -l -d | tee /etc/passwd
Cannot get PDC, code = 2453
SYSTEM:S-1-5-18:18:
None:S-1-5-21-1275210071-1604221776-725345543-513:513:
Administrators:S-1-5-32-544:544:
Backup Operators:S-1-5-32-551:551:
Guests:S-1-5-32-546:546:
Network Configuration Operators:S-1-5-32-556:556:
Power 

RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message
From: Roy Wiseman
Sent: 09 June 2005 19:16


  [SNIP everything.]


  Why did you ignore the perfectly polite request I made to you to stop
spamming my email address across the web archive?




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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Roy Wiseman

i'm sorry, it was completely unintentional. really did
not mean to do that, I pressed reply-all by mistake i
think, i did go to the acronym page and read it and
noted it, so I did not mean to do that.



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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message
From: Roy Wiseman
Sent: 09 June 2005 19:40

 i'm sorry, it was completely unintentional. really did
 not mean to do that, I pressed reply-all by mistake i
 think, i did go to the acronym page and read it and
 noted it, so I did not mean to do that.


  And then you go and IMMEDIATELY do it YET AGAIN.  This has now become
OFFENSIVE of you; you come across as if you aren't paying the slightest bit
of attention to what you're doing or what anyone is saying.


 --- Dave Korn dave.korn GET A CLUE artimi HOW MANY TIMES com wrote:

 
  DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST, because you're clearly not in control of your
own actions and you'll only go and get me spammed again.  You can solve your
own problems as far as I'm concerned, there's really not a lot of point
offering advice to people who aren't going to bother actually reading what I
write.


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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Roy Wiseman

Thanks for the insults   D A V E . K O R N 

You say you are offended, and that I am not in control
of my own actions (obviously highly offensive,
patronising and insulting statements). I am in control
of my own actions. You of course have answers that I
would like, and yet you dangle them at me in effect
with the maturity of a child it seems. I will not get
my answers, you will jealously guard them to prove the
point about the Linux community being closed and
secret and you have insulted me repeatedly here,
because you can.

You tell me to DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, and yet I
am not your dog to tell what to do. You treat people
with an unbelievable level of disrespect. This is the
kind of touch-paper anger that I would expect from a
child, not an adult. And yet, of course, as I said,
you have answers to something that I would like to
know, so you choose to take offence at anything and
demean anyone around you that happens to be nearby.

by anything, let me explain that : if I made the
mistake once of doing a reply all, then the damage was
done, that's simplistic logic that a 6 year old child
could understand right ? and so repeating the mistake
has not affected you in anyway whatsoever (anymore
than my original mistake), and that's clear, obvious,
logical and undeniable right ? and yet you SCREAM IN
CAPITALS, TELLING ME THAT I MUST NOT REPLY and
patronise and offend wildly without any concern as you
feel that because you have answers to cygwin questions
you somehow DEMAND respect from everyone around you.
the logic I point out above is undeniable, and yet you
act as if I have fncked your mother ... get a grip, I
neither fncked your mother or offended you in any way
whatsoever ... you *choose* to be offended at
anything, and in this case, I did not a single thing
to offend you (please read the logical points that I
make above for my reasoning).

and to continue your incredibly offensive email, you
said something like you come across as if you don't
pay the slightest attention  bla bla something,
rant, moan, whine ...  that does not follow in the
slightest right ??? it takes a real leap of incoherent
ranting and unbelievable disrespect for other people
to come to that conclusion. i sent an email, that's
all, polite, friendly, normal. I do pay attention to
others, and I respect everyone I work with, family,
freinds, etc. and I even respected you, until you
chose to start insulting me for no reason (by no
reason, try reading the points of logic that I make
above, all completely undeniable).

do you know the word tantrum in the english language
? i suspect that you have heard people refering to you
with this word often in your life ... thanks for the
insults and the rant mate, i would be offended if I
could actually see a logical basis behind your rant
(by logic, see above).

so I made a mistake, you are RIGHT, I made a mistake,
I admit it ... i didn't offend you, I didn't insult
you, I didn't disrespect you, and I did not do ANY of
the things that you accuse me of. so you hold your
secret geek-knowledge from me, push someone away
from Cygwin, that was really enjoying exploring it,
keep that knowledge for yourself and alienate everyone
and anyone that doesn't do EXACTLY WHAT YOU TELL THEM
TO DO, cos Linux/cygwin is not for polite adults, you
want me to fnck off and DO NOT REPLY and all that. ok,
so you win, another person who wants nothing to do
with rude little fat boys with no girlfriends, all cos
I made a mistake, well what a great advert for decent
maturity you are ! come and use linux/cygwin, and
meet ANGRY ANGRY RANTY ILLOGICAL (see points above)
PEOPLE (maybe your girlfriend/boyfriend cheated on
you and ran off with a friend leaving you with all
this anger, I don't know, all I know if that you
insult me without any logic (see points above). I
don't know why you have so much hatred for people who
have only ever been polite and decent to you.







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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
Yuk, top posting.  Reformatted.  Please consider pressing Ctrl-End in the
Message text area...

On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Roy Wiseman wrote:

 --- Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...after changing the first line of the reply quote.  As I mentioned,
http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR.  I know it's Yahoo webmail,
so doesn't have much in the way of convenience features, but at worst
you'd have to remove the addresses by hand.  Anything to avoid helping
spammers.  If this is sufficiently annoying, perhaps enough Yahoo users
will request this feature that Yahoo will give in and implement it.

  Original Message
  From: Igor Pechtchanski
  Sent: 09 June 2005 18:09
 
   likely to bite you at some point soon.  Secondly, some application
   (presumably Norton Ghost) has inserted a quoted string into your
   PATH, which confuses Cygwin.  Remove the quotes from the PATH.
 
At this point, I'd just like to say ${DAVEK_ANTI_NORTON_RANT}, and
  furthermore,
  ${DAVEK_ANTI_SYMANTEC_RANT:-${DAVEK_ANTI_NORTON_RANT//NORTON/SYMANTEC}},
  while of course it is also true that
  ${DAVEK_ANTI_MCAFEE_RANT:-${DAVEK_ANTI_SYMANTEC_RANT//SYMANTEC/MCAFEE}}.

At this point, Dave, it might pay for you to actually create a web page
with the rants and post links... :-p

   Also, as your cygcheck output shows, you are in a domain.  It's
   quite possible that the domain controller really is taking more than
   30 minutes to return the set of users and groups (for large
   domains).  The -u/-g options of mkpasswd/mkgroup respectively
   may be helpful.
 
Or indeed running it in such a way that the redirection doesn't
  prevent you from seeing what's going on, such as:
 
  mkpasswd -d -l | tee /etc/passwd
 
  which will let you see it spitting out entries one-by-one as the
  server sends responses.

Roy, the name after the tee command is, of course, the name of the file
you'll be overwriting.  In any case, you might want to first get a command
running (without any redirection or pipes), and then redirect it in the
way I showed you.

   You could try running net user nlwiso to find out the group
   membership (though I'm not certain how to ensure that the user being
   queried is EMEA\nlwiso);
 
net user EMEA\nlwiso.  It's pretty universal in 'doze that
  wherever you can put a username, you can put a DOMAIN\user string
  instead.

Dave, you can be sure I've tried the obvious before posting.  It didn't
work for me.  Perhaps the local domain (i.e., the current computer)
isn't handled in the same way.

 I agree that Symantec are a bit of satanic
 corporation, but ... well, Ghost2003 is actually very
 impressive most of the time (apart from breaking
 cygwin which is a big problem of course).

It would have broken other apps as well, just not in such an obviously
detectable way.

 ok, I've fixed symantec by taking out the 2  in the
 path and I fixed the cygwin1.dll (it was a copy of
 testdisk that was in there. testdisk carries it's own
 old version of cygwin1.dll around with it) then I did
 the mkpasswd and mkgroup stuff as you suggested ...
 and this is what I got, but I've no idea what tee it
 telling me (now I'm on my home system which is non
 domain, my office ABN Amro system is all the
 EMEA\nlwiso stuff).

tee isn't telling you anything, you're seeing the output of mkpasswd
(or mkgroup, as the case may be).

 This is a lot confusing to me, do you understand this output ?

See http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html.

 oh, after this, I still get the same error unfortunately.

 C:\cygwincygwin
 Your group is currently mkpasswd.  This indicates that
 the /etc/passwd (and possibly /etc/group) files should
 be rebuilt.
 See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then, for
 example, run
 mkpasswd -l [-d]  /etc/passwd
 mkgroup  -l [-d]  /etc/group
 Note that the -d switch is necessary for domain users.

The commands you quoted will have destroyed your /etc/passwd completely.
Try re-running the commands I gave you.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
 $ mkpasswd -d -l | tee /etc/passwd
 mkpasswd (731): [2453] Could not find domain controller for this domain.

This is a problem.  Are you on the network when you run this command?  If
not, the delay may be mkpasswd waiting for domain controller connections
to time out.

Did you run mkpasswd -c -l, like I told you?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
 $ mkpasswd  -l | tee /etc/passwd

This just overwrote /etc/passwd generated in the previous run.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
 $ mkgroup  -l | tee /etc/passwd

Ditto, and this time it's with the output of mkgroup.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
 $ mkgroup  -l -d | tee /etc/passwd
 Cannot get PDC, code = 2453

As you see, the primary domain controller is inaccessible.  Do you need to
be on a VPN or something to log in to the domain?
Igor
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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Roy Wiseman

thanks Igor, and also Dave, I totally appreciate both
of your time on this
(can't say I liked the insult much Dave, but my
mistake was accidental you know. Maybe it's a Scottish
thing that we treat people with respect until they
disrespect us, I guess we don't think we should have
to put up with insults from anyone, ... we're stubborn
that way !).

I'll work through your explanations tomorrow Igor. I
had no idea there was so much going on under cygwin, I
kind of assumed that the bunch-of-files and
configuration information sat in the cygwin folder,
until at runtime when the bash shell was invoked, the
cygwin dll somehow bound all the files together into a
workable system at that point. clearly a lot more
going on there, but very interesting to see how it all
works together.

cheers,

roy.





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RE: passwd group file problems ?

2005-06-09 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Roy Wiseman wrote:

 I agree that Symantec are a bit of satanic corporation,

Wow, I've never heard it put so correctly and succinctly.  Perhaps the new
Pope can help us all out and exorcise Symantec, McAffe, and Google Desktop
Search.

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