setup change this year?

[Rutten, Mark]

Is there something different about the way that "setup" runs since Christmas?

I have a local mirror of the cygwin packages (neatened up using Michael Chase's 
clean_setup perl script) which I access across the local network.  I always call setup 
with the "-5" option (no md5 checks).

All was working fine last year, now setup bogs down my machine (excessive processor 
usage by the "system" process) after parsing the setup.ini file.  My first impression 
is that setup is doing the md5 checks without telling me that it is, but I can't be 
sure.  My main confusion stems from the fact that there hasn't been any changes in the 
setup program since last October(ish) - I'm using version 2.416.

If anyone could please give me some hints, that would be fantastic.

Thanks,
Mark.

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Re: setup change this year?

[Larry Hall]

At 06:38 PM 1/29/2004, Rutten, Mark you wrote:

>Is there something different about the way that "setup" runs since Christmas?
>
>I have a local mirror of the cygwin packages (neatened up using Michael Chase's 
>clean_setup perl script) which I access across the local network.  I always call 
>setup with the "-5" option (no md5 checks).
>
>All was working fine last year, now setup bogs down my machine (excessive processor 
>usage by the "system" process) after parsing the setup.ini file.  My first impression 
>is that setup is doing the md5 checks without telling me that it is, but I can't be 
>sure.  My main confusion stems from the fact that there hasn't been any changes in 
>the setup program since last October(ish) - I'm using version 2.416.
>
>If anyone could please give me some hints, that would be fantastic.


Sounds like a local network problem if you're actually just using a local 
mirror and not just using it in addition to other mirrors on the Internet.
That's just a WAG though.  Perhaps you want to visit:



You can pull down 2.418 (really just adds resizable controls) and see if
it acts differently.  You can also pull down the debug version of 2.415.
If it acts similarly, it would give you a quick basis to debug from, 
without having to rebuild 2.416.  But if you're really serious about 
finding your problem, building 2.416 as debug locally is probably your
best course of action.



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Re: setup change this year?

[Robert Collins]

On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 10:38, Rutten, Mark wrote:
> Is there something different about the way that "setup" runs since Christmas?

No. No releases for quite a while actually. Larrys suggestion is
probably your best bet to id the problem.

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RE: setup change this year?

[Trevor Forbes]

One of your local mirror files is corrupt. 

Trevor

 > -Original Message-
 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
 > Of Rutten, Mark
 > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2004 9:09 AM
 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 > Subject: setup change this year?
 > 
 > 
 > Is there something different about the way that "setup" runs since
 > Christmas?
 > 
 > I have a local mirror of the cygwin packages (neatened up using
Michael
 > Chase's clean_setup perl script) which I access across the local
network.
 > I always call setup with the "-5" option (no md5 checks).
 > 
 > All was working fine last year, now setup bogs down my machine
(excessive
 > processor usage by the "system" process) after parsing the setup.ini
 > file.  My first impression is that setup is doing the md5 checks
without
 > telling me that it is, but I can't be sure.  My main confusion stems
from
 > the fact that there hasn't been any changes in the setup program
since
 > last October(ish) - I'm using version 2.416.
 > 
 > If anyone could please give me some hints, that would be fantastic.
 > 
 > Thanks,
 > Mark.
 > 
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Re: setup change this year?

[Sam Steingold]

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to gmane.os.cygwin as well.

> * Larry Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-01-29 20:32:28 -0500]:
>
> 
>
> You can pull down 2.418 (really just adds resizable controls)

resizable controls is a big thing, 2.418 has been there for 3 months,
why hasn't it been released yet?

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Re: setup change this year?

[Larry Hall]

At 12:20 PM 1/30/2004, Sam Steingold you wrote:
>> * Larry Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-01-29 20:32:28 -0500]:
>>
>> 
>>
>> You can pull down 2.418 (really just adds resizable controls)
>
>resizable controls is a big thing, 2.418 has been there for 3 months,


I wasn't suggesting that resizable controls isn't a "good thing" or
something that people don't want.  I was just pointing out that there 
are no big changes to setup's operation other than these GUI enhancements
when compared to 2.416.


>why hasn't it been released yet?
>


Here's Rob Collin's answer:




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Re: setup change this year?

[Brian Dessent]

Sam Steingold wrote:
> 
> > * Larry Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-01-29 20:32:28 -0500]:
> >
> > 
> >
> > You can pull down 2.418 (really just adds resizable controls)
> 
> resizable controls is a big thing, 2.418 has been there for 3 months,
> why hasn't it been released yet?

The 'resizeableness' needs to be fixed for the other panels of the
wizard.  If you maximize the screen it's great for the package selection
part but rather awkward for all the other panels.  I think that's the
reason that it has not been pushed out to cygin.com/setup.exe yet.  (I'm
sure Robert will correct/amend this if I'm wrong.)

Brian

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Re: setup change this year?

[Robert Collins]

On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 15:47, Brian Dessent wrote:
> Sam Steingold wrote:
> > 
> > > * Larry Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-01-29 20:32:28 -0500]:
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > You can pull down 2.418 (really just adds resizable controls)
> > 
> > resizable controls is a big thing, 2.418 has been there for 3 months,
> > why hasn't it been released yet?
> 
> The 'resizeableness' needs to be fixed for the other panels of the
> wizard.  If you maximize the screen it's great for the package selection
> part but rather awkward for all the other panels.  I think that's the
> reason that it has not been pushed out to cygin.com/setup.exe yet.  (I'm
> sure Robert will correct/amend this if I'm wrong.)

You're right on.

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RE: setup change this year?

[Rutten, Mark]

Thanks for your help.  I will download and try out the debug version soon.

Mark.

> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2004 12:02 PM
> To: Rutten, Mark; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: setup change this year?
> 
> 
> At 06:38 PM 1/29/2004, Rutten, Mark you wrote:
> 
> >Is there something different about the way that "setup" runs 
> since Christmas?
> >
> >I have a local mirror of the cygwin packages (neatened up 
> using Michael Chase's clean_setup perl script) which I access 
> across the local network.  I always call setup with the "-5" 
> option (no md5 checks).
> >
> >All was working fine last year, now setup bogs down my 
> machine (excessive processor usage by the "system" process) 
> after parsing the setup.ini file.  My first impression is 
> that setup is doing the md5 checks without telling me that it 
> is, but I can't be sure.  My main confusion stems from the 
> fact that there hasn't been any changes in the setup program 
> since last October(ish) - I'm using version 2.416.
> >
> >If anyone could please give me some hints, that would be fantastic.
> 
> 
> Sounds like a local network problem if you're actually just 
> using a local 
> mirror and not just using it in addition to other mirrors on 
> the Internet.
> That's just a WAG though.  Perhaps you want to visit:
> 
> <http://cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/>
> 
> You can pull down 2.418 (really just adds resizable controls) 
> and see if
> it acts differently.  You can also pull down the debug 
> version of 2.415.
> If it acts similarly, it would give you a quick basis to debug from, 
> without having to rebuild 2.416.  But if you're really serious about 
> finding your problem, building 2.416 as debug locally is probably your
> best course of action.
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> RFK Partners, Inc.  (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
> 838 Washington Street   (508) 893-9889 - FAX
> Holliston, MA 01746 
> 

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RE: setup change this year?

[Rutten, Mark]

But it works OK without the --no-md5 option (although I didn't watch every second of 
the whole process).  If a file was corrupt, wouldn't it show up then?

Mark

> -Original Message-
> From: Trevor Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2004 6:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: setup change this year?
> 
> 
> 
> One of your local mirror files is corrupt. 
> 
> Trevor
> 
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
>  > Of Rutten, Mark
>  > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2004 9:09 AM
>  > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>  > Subject: setup change this year?
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Is there something different about the way that "setup" runs since
>  > Christmas?
>  > 
>  > I have a local mirror of the cygwin packages (neatened up using
> Michael
>  > Chase's clean_setup perl script) which I access across the local
> network.
>  > I always call setup with the "-5" option (no md5 checks).
>  > 
>  > All was working fine last year, now setup bogs down my machine
> (excessive
>  > processor usage by the "system" process) after parsing the 
> setup.ini
>  > file.  My first impression is that setup is doing the md5 checks
> without
>  > telling me that it is, but I can't be sure.  My main 
> confusion stems
> from
>  > the fact that there hasn't been any changes in the setup program
> since
>  > last October(ish) - I'm using version 2.416.
>  > 
>  > If anyone could please give me some hints, that would be fantastic.
>  > 
>  > Thanks,
>  > Mark.
>  > 
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RE: setup change this year?

[Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID)]

Having used the resizable setup v. 2.418 for a while (under both Win98se and
XP), I prefer the resizable with "awkward other panels" than the
non-resizable.  Actually, there need not be anything awkward.  One can just
run setup at the default size, and when one gets to the package chooser, one
clicks the full screen button.  Alternatively, one can run it from a
shortcut that that starts setup full screen.  (This is what I do when I run
it manually.)  Its ugly, but if one isn't changing anything before the
chooser from the last time setup was run, one can go through the screens
until one gets to the chooser by repeatedly hitting enter.  Not awkward at
all.  Even if one changes things from the last time setup was run, many of
the changes can be made from the keyboard.

- Barry

-Original Message-
From: Brian Dessent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 11:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: setup change this year?

Sam Steingold wrote:
> 
> > * Larry Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-01-29 20:32:28 -0500]:
> >
> > <http://cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/>
> >
> > You can pull down 2.418 (really just adds resizable controls)
> 
> resizable controls is a big thing, 2.418 has been there for 3 months,
> why hasn't it been released yet?

The 'resizeableness' needs to be fixed for the other panels of the
wizard.  If you maximize the screen it's great for the package selection
part but rather awkward for all the other panels.  I think that's the
reason that it has not been pushed out to cygin.com/setup.exe yet.  (I'm
sure Robert will correct/amend this if I'm wrong.)

Brian

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