Re: update with apt-cyg ?
On Sun 2020-09-06 (19:11), Brian Inglis wrote: > If using unattended (--quiet) mode, you have to specify everything else: > > $ ./setup-x86_64 -gq -R "$rootdir" -l "$pkgdir" -s $site > > otherwise try semi-attended (--package-manager) chooser-only mode: > > $ ./setup-x86_64 -gM -R "$rootdir" -l "$pkgdir" -s $site My cygwin installation directory is in the users windows home directory, eg: W10dev:/: cygpath -w / C:\Users\framstag\cygwin Shall I use setup-x86_64 -B ... ? I found a directory named C:\Users\framstag\cygwin\.pkg-cache Is this the value I sould use for $pkgdir ? > Defaults should have been saved in /etc/setup/setup.rc This seems not to be true for my installations. How can I add the defaults for $rootdir $pkgdir $site afterwards? -- Ullrich Horlacher Server und Virtualisierung Rechenzentrum TIK Universitaet Stuttgart E-Mail: horlac...@tik.uni-stuttgart.de Allmandring 30aTel:++49-711-68565868 70569 Stuttgart (Germany) WWW:http://www.tik.uni-stuttgart.de/ REF:<8a6a9c60-5c8a-a322-0b5e-2210be28e...@systematicsw.ab.ca> -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: update with apt-cyg ?
Am 07.09.2020 um 01:00 schrieb Ulli Horlacher: cygstart /setup-x86_64.exe --quiet-mode That approach is essentially guaranteed to fail you in frustrating ways, for two reasons: 1) (Minor) You do not want to have setup itself, much less its work and data directory, inside the cygwin installation. I.e. that should never be '/' as the path for setup, as seen from any Cygwin shell. 2) (Major) Updating a running cygwin installation from the inside is highly unlikely to work correctly. Most importantly there is almost no chance for it to update the core DLLs, because those will already be in use by the shell you're running this from, so they cannot be changed. I.e. if you're in a situation where using "cygstart" makes any sense, that's a situation setup cannot update the DLLs. In a nutshell, and to paraphrase a certain Mr. Ford, you can have your special non-interactive Cygwin setup script in any language you like, as long as it's effectively a _Windows_ batch file. Updating the branch you're currently sitting on does not work any better than sawing it through. -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: update with apt-cyg ?
On Sun 2020-09-06 (19:11), Brian Inglis wrote: > > cygstart /setup-x86_64.exe --quiet-mode > > > > But this does not upgrade my cygwin installation in my users windows home, > > but does a new installation in c:\cygwin64 > > Download: > > $ curl -OJR https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe > OR > $ wget -N https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe Ok, this is a easy :-) > If using unattended (--quiet) mode, you have to specify everything else: > > $ ./setup-x86_64 -gq -R "$rootdir" -l "$pkgdir" -s $site > > otherwise try semi-attended (--package-manager) chooser-only mode: > > $ ./setup-x86_64 -gM -R "$rootdir" -l "$pkgdir" -s $site > > which lets you see the prompt screens and decide whether you need to change > anything. Great! This helps me a lot! > Defaults should have been saved in /etc/setup/setup.rc and packages in > /etc/setup/installed.db the first time you installed Cygwin, so that > subsequent > upgrades will use the same locations. I did not know /etc/setup/setup.rc, but it is there with the content: last-cache C:\Users\admin\cygwin\.pkg-cache mirrors-lst http://cygwin.mirror.constant.com/;cygwin.mirror.constant.com;United States;New Jersey (...) last-mirror http://ftp.fau.de/cygwin/ net-method IE last-action Download,Install > If your alternative package manager is not following these conventions, please > consider whether that is a safe approach if other apps are needed for > upgrades, > unless your package manager uses workarounds so they are not needed. cygwin-portable-installer(*) is not an alternative package manager, but just a script wrapper for setup.exe The installation step is: echo Running Cygwin setup... "%CYGWIN_ROOT%\%CYGWIN_SETUP_EXE%" --no-admin ^ --site %CYGWIN_MIRROR% %CYGWIN_PROXY% ^ --root "%CYGWIN_ROOT%" ^ --local-package-dir "%CYGWIN_ROOT%\.pkg-cache" ^ --no-shortcuts ^ --no-desktop ^ --delete-orphans ^ --upgrade-also ^ --no-replaceonreboot ^ --quiet-mode ^ --packages dos2unix,wget,%CYGWIN_PACKAGES% || goto :fail When I later run /setup-x86_64 without options it asks for "Choose A Download Source" I can skip this step if I start it with: /setup-x86_64 -s http://ftp.fau.de/cygwin Is there something missing in my /etc/setup/setup.rc? What should I add there? Also the CYGWIN_ROOT (option -R)? Ok, I could write a setup.cmd with the options you named, but it would be better if setup-x86_64.exe knows my defaults. (*) I need cygwin-portable-installer for my users, which are overcharged with a regular cygwin installation. With cygwin-portable-installer I can specify all needed packages, the installation place and some additional software (of my own). -- Ullrich Horlacher Server und Virtualisierung Rechenzentrum TIK Universitaet Stuttgart E-Mail: horlac...@tik.uni-stuttgart.de Allmandring 30aTel:++49-711-68565868 70569 Stuttgart (Germany) WWW:http://www.tik.uni-stuttgart.de/ REF:<8a6a9c60-5c8a-a322-0b5e-2210be28e...@systematicsw.ab.ca> -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: update with apt-cyg ?
Am 07.09.2020 um 00:11 schrieb Ulli Horlacher: apt-cyg update-setup apt-cyg update apt-cyg dist-upgrade None of the various apt-cyg versions I've looked at actually work correctly. The most egregious fault usually is that they will deactivate the perpetual postinstall scripts, which will permanently damage your installation. -- Achim. (on the road :-) -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: update with apt-cyg ?
On 2020-09-06 17:00, Ulli Horlacher wrote: > On Sun 2020-09-06 (16:27), Brian Inglis wrote: >> On 2020-09-06 16:11, Ulli Horlacher wrote: >>> I need an UNIX-alike update shell script, without clicky-pointy. Is this >>> a correct way: apt-cyg update-setup apt-cyg update apt-cyg dist-upgrade >>> ? I have testet it that way and it LOOKS ok, but maybe I am missing >>> something? >> >> Whose fork of apt-cyg are you using? > > Ooops... there are different versions (forks)? > > I am using https://github.com/kou1okada/apt-cyg from > cygwin-portable-installer : > > W10dev:~: apt-cyg --version > kou1okada/apt-cyg forked from transcode-open/apt-cyg > >> Please read those instructions carefully, or check the source. > > 2558 lines of bash script... :-} > >> Most do not support upgrading packages as they cannot upgrade the core >> packages. Please look for articles about running the Cygwin Setup program >> unattended. > > I have tried this first: > > cygstart /setup-x86_64.exe --quiet-mode > > But this does not upgrade my cygwin installation in my users windows home, > but does a new installation in c:\cygwin64 Download: $ curl -OJR https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe OR $ wget -N https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe If using unattended (--quiet) mode, you have to specify everything else: $ ./setup-x86_64 -gq -R "$rootdir" -l "$pkgdir" -s $site otherwise try semi-attended (--package-manager) chooser-only mode: $ ./setup-x86_64 -gM -R "$rootdir" -l "$pkgdir" -s $site which lets you see the prompt screens and decide whether you need to change anything. Defaults should have been saved in /etc/setup/setup.rc and packages in /etc/setup/installed.db the first time you installed Cygwin, so that subsequent upgrades will use the same locations. If your alternative package manager is not following these conventions, please consider whether that is a safe approach if other apps are needed for upgrades, unless your package manager uses workarounds so they are not needed. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in IEC units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.] -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: update with apt-cyg ?
On Sun 2020-09-06 (16:27), Brian Inglis wrote: > On 2020-09-06 16:11, Ulli Horlacher wrote: > > > I need an UNIX-alike update shell script, without clicky-pointy. > > Is this a correct way: > > apt-cyg update-setup > > apt-cyg update > > apt-cyg dist-upgrade > > ? > > I have testet it that way and it LOOKS ok, but maybe I am missing > > something? > > Whose fork of apt-cyg are you using? Ooops... there are different versions (forks)? I am using https://github.com/kou1okada/apt-cyg from cygwin-portable-installer : W10dev:~: apt-cyg --version kou1okada/apt-cyg forked from transcode-open/apt-cyg > Please read those instructions carefully, or check the source. 2558 lines of bash script... :-} > Most do not support upgrading packages as they cannot upgrade the core > packages. > Please look for articles about running the Cygwin Setup program unattended. I have tried this first: cygstart /setup-x86_64.exe --quiet-mode But this does not upgrade my cygwin installation in my users windows home, but does a new installation in c:\cygwin64 -- Ullrich Horlacher Server und Virtualisierung Rechenzentrum TIK Universitaet Stuttgart E-Mail: horlac...@tik.uni-stuttgart.de Allmandring 30aTel:++49-711-68565868 70569 Stuttgart (Germany) WWW:http://www.tik.uni-stuttgart.de/ REF:<105e7934-f8a3-eb92-8fa0-dd22566c7...@systematicsw.ab.ca> -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: update with apt-cyg ?
On 2020-09-06 16:11, Ulli Horlacher wrote: > I need an UNIX-alike update shell script, without clicky-pointy. > Is this a correct way: > apt-cyg update-setup > apt-cyg update > apt-cyg dist-upgrade > ? > I have testet it that way and it LOOKS ok, but maybe I am missing > something? Whose fork of apt-cyg are you using? Please read those instructions carefully, or check the source. Most do not support upgrading packages as they cannot upgrade the core packages. Please look for articles about running the Cygwin Setup program unattended. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in IEC units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.] -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
update with apt-cyg ?
I need an UNIX-alike update shell script, without clicky-pointy. Is this a correct way: apt-cyg update-setup apt-cyg update apt-cyg dist-upgrade ? I have testet it that way and it LOOKS ok, but maybe I am missing something? -- Ullrich Horlacher Server und Virtualisierung Rechenzentrum TIK Universitaet Stuttgart E-Mail: horlac...@tik.uni-stuttgart.de Allmandring 30aTel:++49-711-68565868 70569 Stuttgart (Germany) WWW:http://www.tik.uni-stuttgart.de/ REF:<20200906221104.gc19...@tik.uni-stuttgart.de> -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
