Re: when is using cygserver recommended? (thx)
Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just to state the obvious again: cygserver has nothing to do with fork -- superstitious assertions to the contrary not withstanding. cgf From the CYGSERVER Readme: -- What is Cygserver? Cygserver is a program which is designed to run as a background service. It provides Cygwin applications with services which require security arbitration or which need to persist while no other cygwin application is running. The implemented services so far are: - Control slave tty/pty handle dispersal from tty owner to other processes without compromising the owner processes' security. -- To me, this sounds like it controls the 'fork'ing of items, but I can't argue (too much), as I don't know for certain. Or, could it be that something we (us that have had the problem) call from our .bashrc or .profile might be calling something that bounces off the cygserver controlling mechanism? Dave -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: when is using cygserver recommended? (thx)
On 10 April 2006 13:47, J. David Boyd wrote: Christopher Faylor cgf-no-personal-reply-please writes: To me, this sounds like it controls the 'fork'ing of items, but I can't argue (too much), as I don't know for certain. Then it's damn silly to argue (any at all) with someone who does know for certain! cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: when is using cygserver recommended? (thx)
Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 10 April 2006 13:47, J. David Boyd wrote: Christopher Faylor cgf-no-personal-reply-please writes: To me, this sounds like it controls the 'fork'ing of items, but I can't argue (too much), as I don't know for certain. Then it's damn silly to argue (any at all) with someone who does know for certain! Hmm, too true. I guess I'll stop! Have a great day... Dave -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: when is using cygserver recommended? (thx)
-- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J. David Boyd) To: cygwin@cygwin.com Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:29:59 -0400 Subject: Re: when is using cygserver recommended? (thx) Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In that case, my previous reply is even more pertinent; especially given that Igor mentioned that the problem has nothing to do with cygserver. cgf Strange then, that my 'fork' problem has now gone away, after adjusting my cygserver.conf file Dave I don't know if it fixes it or not but I can tell you that I started using cygserver perhaps a couple months ago and after changing that variable, I've never seen the fork problem again. However, I'm not completely sure but I think that the chain of events was like this: 1- no fork problems 2- added cygserver for different reasons 3- got fork problems 4- edited cygserver.conf 5- no fork problems Right now, although I understand that fork problem, I do not understand its cause or why the cygserver.conf change fixed it. I think the reason I edited that file was because I got the impression that using cygserver is what caused my fork problems. It seems though that people are getting the fork problems even when not using cygserver. I concluded that I needed to research cygserver a lot more to understand what's going. One day ... One thing is certain, though. I'm very glad I don't see the fork problems anymore. -- Luis P Caamano Atlanta, GA USA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: when is using cygserver recommended? (thx)
On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 01:25:13PM -0400, Luis P Caamano wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: (J. David Boyd) To: cygwin Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:29:59 -0400 Subject: Re: when is using cygserver recommended? (thx) Christopher Faylor writes: In that case, my previous reply is even more pertinent; especially given that Igor mentioned that the problem has nothing to do with cygserver. Strange then, that my 'fork' problem has now gone away, after adjusting my cygserver.conf file I don't know if it fixes it or not but I can tell you that I started using cygserver perhaps a couple months ago and after changing that variable, I've never seen the fork problem again. However, I'm not completely sure but I think that the chain of events was like this: 1- no fork problems 2- added cygserver for different reasons 3- got fork problems 4- edited cygserver.conf 5- no fork problems Right now, although I understand that fork problem, I do not understand its cause or why the cygserver.conf change fixed it. I think the reason I edited that file was because I got the impression that using cygserver is what caused my fork problems. It seems though that people are getting the fork problems even when not using cygserver. I concluded that I needed to research cygserver a lot more to understand what's going. One day ... One thing is certain, though. I'm very glad I don't see the fork problems anymore. But, think of the chickens... Just to state the obvious again: cygserver has nothing to do with fork -- superstitious assertions to the contrary not withstanding. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: when is using cygserver recommended? (thx)
Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In that case, my previous reply is even more pertinent; especially given that Igor mentioned that the problem has nothing to do with cygserver. cgf Strange then, that my 'fork' problem has now gone away, after adjusting my cygserver.conf file Dave -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: when is using cygserver recommended? (thx)
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 04:29:59PM -0400, J. David Boyd wrote: Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In that case, my previous reply is even more pertinent; especially given that Igor mentioned that the problem has nothing to do with cygserver. Strange then, that my 'fork' problem has now gone away, after adjusting my cygserver.conf file Yeah, it was either that or the chicken, I reckon. Poor chicken... cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: when is using cygserver recommended? (thx)
On Thu 4/6/06 13:46 EDT cgf wrote: --snip I just read /usr/share/doc/cygwin-doc-1.4/html/cygwin-ug-net/using-cygserver.html for the first time. We mainly run fairly straight forward bash and perl scripts under cygwin, both at the commandline and through cron; some scripts use make, some use background processes and wait. At what point does it make sense to start using the cygserver service? Some guidelines for nondeveloper types in this topic would be appreciated- I did check the FAQ. If you don't know if you need it, you don't need it. cgf fair enough, thanks. My interest was only in reducing the chances of fork problem ( http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2006-04/msg00122.html ). -- Tom -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: when is using cygserver recommended? (thx)
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 02:51:34PM -0500, Tom Rodman wrote: On Thu 4/6/06 13:46 EDT cgf wrote: --snip I just read /usr/share/doc/cygwin-doc-1.4/html/cygwin-ug-net/using-cygserver.html for the first time. We mainly run fairly straight forward bash and perl scripts under cygwin, both at the commandline and through cron; some scripts use make, some use background processes and wait. At what point does it make sense to start using the cygserver service? Some guidelines for nondeveloper types in this topic would be appreciated- I did check the FAQ. If you don't know if you need it, you don't need it. fair enough, thanks. My interest was only in reducing the chances of fork problem ( http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2006-04/msg00122.html ). In that case, my previous reply is even more pertinent; especially given that Igor mentioned that the problem has nothing to do with cygserver. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
