Re: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Gerrit P. Haase

Hallo Mark,

2001-12-07 09:31:41, du schriebst:

> I would be interested in being a package maintainer for GNU whois (and maybe
> dig and host down the road).  Any interest in such?

Yes I'm interested;)

Which whois do you want to maintain?
http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/jwhois.html
http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/whois.html

And dig and host are from the bind package?
There are no resolv functions in cygwin, so libresolv or libbind is needed too,
will you maintain that too?

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request: change mount behaviour

2001-12-07 Thread Gerrit P. Haase

Hallo,

I am sure that this was discussed, I didn't searched the archives, but
I want to make this request (again if it is so):

Change the default mount behaviour to create binmode user mounts
if called without options.
Example:
$ mount C:/some/drive /mydrive
should create a binmode user mount vs textmode user mount as it is now.
The flag -b isn't needed then and could be substituted with -t to force
mount to create textmode mounts.

So we will get less 'accidently' created textmode mounts which leads to
less questions about this issue on the list (I hope so).

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Figlet-2.2 Experimental

2001-12-07 Thread Ebrey, Carl

Hi all,

I'm interested in being the package maintainer for figlet.  The latest
version is 2.2 and was released in 1996 (and so I can't realistically see it
being updated again).  I have already compiled the source and created a
tar.bz2 of the binaries/docs/etc and I've created what I /think/ is a good
setup.hints file.

First question.  Is anyone interested in actually having figlet for Cygwin?

Next, does someone want to check that what I've done is correct, and maybe
hold my hand a little in getting my first package into Cygwin (since I've
not done it before)?

If all goes well with this then I would certainly be interested in being the
package maintainer for other packages, since I like Cygwin a lot (home from
home you could say, being a Linux person who's forced to use Windows at
work).

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: request: change mount behaviour

2001-12-07 Thread Earnie Boyd

"Gerrit P. Haase" wrote:
> 
> Hallo,
> 
> I am sure that this was discussed, I didn't searched the archives, but
> I want to make this request (again if it is so):
> 
> Change the default mount behaviour to create binmode user mounts
> if called without options.
> Example:
> $ mount C:/some/drive /mydrive
> should create a binmode user mount vs textmode user mount as it is now.
> The flag -b isn't needed then and could be substituted with -t to force
> mount to create textmode mounts.
> 
> So we will get less 'accidently' created textmode mounts which leads to
> less questions about this issue on the list (I hope so).
> 

IMO, this change is needed to match the setup default.

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Re: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Jonathan Kamens

>  Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:55:02 +0100
>  From: "Gerrit P. Haase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  
>  Which whois do you want to maintain?
>  http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/jwhois.html
>  http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/whois.html

Don't forget bw-whois, which is my favorite: http://whois.bw.org/



Re: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Gerrit P. Haase

Hallo Jonathan,

2001-12-07 16:22:05, du schriebst:

>>  Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:55:02 +0100
>>  From: "Gerrit P. Haase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  
>>  Which whois do you want to maintain?
>>  http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/jwhois.html
>>  http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/whois.html

> Don't forget bw-whois, which is my favorite: http://whois.bw.org/

Yes, great, I didn't know this, I just looked at gnu.org and found
the other two.

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new cygwin-cross-1.3.6.1

2001-12-07 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen

Hi,

Some people promised to have a look at my cross build scripts package
so I've made some fixes.  It should generate fully Cygwin compliant
binary and source packages now, I hope.

http://lilypond.org/people/jan/gnu-windows/cygwin-cross-1.3.6.1.tar.gz

I've also added a small test package 'foo', that shows how these
scripts can be used to easily build and package new packages for
Cygwin.

Greetings,
Jan.

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Re: Figlet-2.2 Experimental

2001-12-07 Thread Gerrit P. Haase

Hallo Carl,

2001-12-07 16:24:07, du schriebst:

> I'm interested in being the package maintainer for figlet.  The latest
> version is 2.2 and was released in 1996 (and so I can't realistically see it
> being updated again).  I have already compiled the source and created a
> tar.bz2 of the binaries/docs/etc and I've created what I /think/ is a good
> setup.hints file.

> First question.  Is anyone interested in actually having figlet for Cygwin?

> Next, does someone want to check that what I've done is correct, and maybe
> hold my hand a little in getting my first package into Cygwin (since I've
> not done it before)?

> If all goes well with this then I would certainly be interested in being the
> package maintainer for other packages, since I like Cygwin a lot (home from
> home you could say, being a Linux person who's forced to use Windows at
> work).

> Any help would be appreciated.

Is there a possibility to load it down (your sources and binaries) to test it?
If not please mail me a copy.

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RE: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Bradshaw

Sorry.  I should've identified the package in the original email.  The one I
had planned on supporting was 
http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/whois.html.  It's always seemed to
work well for me.  I wasn't aware the bw.org version, though.  Any good
reason to pick that one versus the gnu package?

Mark

> -Original Message-
> From: Gerrit P. Haase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:23 AM
> To: Jonathan Kamens
> Cc: Mark Bradshaw; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: whois package
> 
> 
> Hallo Jonathan,
> 
> 2001-12-07 16:22:05, du schriebst:
> 
> >>  Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:55:02 +0100
> >>  From: "Gerrit P. Haase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  
> >>  Which whois do you want to maintain?
> >>  http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/jwhois.html
> >>  http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/whois.html
> 
> > Don't forget bw-whois, which is my favorite: http://whois.bw.org/
> 
> Yes, great, I didn't know this, I just looked at gnu.org and found
> the other two.
> 
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RE: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Bradshaw

Just took a look at the bw.org version and realised that it's perl based.
I'd really rather support one that can be compiled.  Without significant
reason otherwise, I'll stick with the gnu package.

Mark

> -Original Message-
> From: Gerrit P. Haase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:23 AM
> To: Jonathan Kamens
> Cc: Mark Bradshaw; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: whois package
> 
> 
> Hallo Jonathan,
> 
> 2001-12-07 16:22:05, du schriebst:
> 
> >>  Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:55:02 +0100
> >>  From: "Gerrit P. Haase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  
> >>  Which whois do you want to maintain?
> >>  http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/jwhois.html
> >>  http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/whois.html
> 
> > Don't forget bw-whois, which is my favorite: http://whois.bw.org/
> 
> Yes, great, I didn't know this, I just looked at gnu.org and found
> the other two.
> 
> Gerrit
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Re: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Jonathan Kamens

>  From: Mark Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:00:40 -0500 
>  
>  Any good reason to pick that one versus the gnu package?

If the GNU one is as smart as its project page says it is, I suppose
not :-).

Well, OK, I suppose one reason is that the BW version is written in
Perl and is thus probably easier to package than a version that needs
to be compiled.

Also, why the heck does the GNU whois source include a "mkpasswd"
program?  I can't see how the two are related.

On the flip side, however, I notice that the GNU version is
internationalized, and I don't know if the BW version is.

  jik



Re: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Jonathan Kamens

>  From: Mark Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:04:27 -0500 
>  
>  Just took a look at the bw.org version and realised that it's perl based.
>  I'd really rather support one that can be compiled.

Why?

  jik



RE: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Bradshaw

No reliance on perl.  Easier to use on stripped down cygwin installations.
I'd think that would be a benefit in the long run.  I like perl, but I'd
think the compiled version would be preferred.

I also thought the mkpasswd inclusion was odd.  I just ripped it out of the
source and said bye-bye.

Mark

> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Kamens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:06 AM
> To: Mark Bradshaw
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: whois package
> 
> 
> >  From: Mark Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:04:27 -0500 
> >  
> >  Just took a look at the bw.org version and realised that 
> it's perl based.
> >  I'd really rather support one that can be compiled.
> 
> Why?
> 
>   jik
> 



Re: new cygwin-cross-1.3.6.1

2001-12-07 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 04:30:12PM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
>Some people promised to have a look at my cross build scripts package
>so I've made some fixes.  It should generate fully Cygwin compliant
>binary and source packages now, I hope.

I wonder if these same people will look at the cross build package that
I checked into cvs months ago.

Nah.  Probably not.

cgf



Re: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 09:08:18AM -0500, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:55:02 +0100
>>From: "Gerrit P.  Haase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>Which whois do you want to maintain?
>>http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/jwhois.html
>>http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/whois.html
>
>Don't forget bw-whois, which is my favorite: http://whois.bw.org/

I agree!  I was going to suggest this too.  This is my favorite by far.

I've installed this on every machine that I maintain.

cgf



RE: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Bradshaw

Can you give a quickie pro/con list for the bw.org version?

> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: whois package
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 09:08:18AM -0500, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> >> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:55:02 +0100
> >>From: "Gerrit P.  Haase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>Which whois do you want to maintain?
> >>http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/jwhois.html
> >>http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/whois.html
> >
> >Don't forget bw-whois, which is my favorite: http://whois.bw.org/
> 
> I agree!  I was going to suggest this too.  This is my 
> favorite by far.
> 
> I've installed this on every machine that I maintain.
> 
> cgf
> 



Re: Figlet-2.2 Experimental

2001-12-07 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 09:51:12AM -, Ebrey, Carl wrote:
>I'm interested in being the package maintainer for figlet.  The latest
>version is 2.2 and was released in 1996 (and so I can't realistically
>see it being updated again).  I have already compiled the source and
>created a tar.bz2 of the binaries/docs/etc and I've created what I
>/think/ is a good setup.hints file.

How about an explanation about what figlet is?

I'm sure that I could figure this out myself by doing a google search but I
think a description of the package and rationale for its inclusion would be
step one in deciding if it should be included in the cygwin distribution.

Maybe just posting the proposed setup.hint file would be enough, with
ldesc, sdesc, category, and requires lines filled in.

cgf



RE: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Bradshaw

Going back to dig and host, I'm guessing that the maintainer would need to
actually be a maintainer for the whole bind package?  Am I right in assuming
that having bind as a cygwin package would provide libresolv functionality,
or would more be required.

BTW, I can get bind 9.2 to compile with some modification

Mark

> -Original Message-
> From: Gerrit P. Haase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:55 AM
> To: Mark Bradshaw
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: whois package
> 
> 
> Hallo Mark,
> 
> 2001-12-07 09:31:41, du schriebst:
> 
> > I would be interested in being a package maintainer for GNU 
> whois (and maybe
> > dig and host down the road).  Any interest in such?
> 
> Yes I'm interested;)
> 
> Which whois do you want to maintain?
> http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/jwhois.html
> http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/whois.html
> 
> And dig and host are from the bind package?
> There are no resolv functions in cygwin, so libresolv or 
> libbind is needed too,
> will you maintain that too?
> 
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Re: new cygwin-cross-1.3.6.1

2001-12-07 Thread Charles Wilson

Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 04:30:12PM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
> 
>>Some people promised to have a look at my cross build scripts package
>>so I've made some fixes.  It should generate fully Cygwin compliant
>>binary and source packages now, I hope.
>>
> 
> I wonder if these same people will look at the cross build package that
> I checked into cvs months ago.
> 
> Nah.  Probably not.


Since the "some people" is probably "me", no -- it's not the "cross 
build" aspect of Jan's work that I'm interested in.  It's the 
auto-building (even native) aspect of his scripts, so I'm more 
interested in his "foo" example than in cygwin-cross itself.

--Chuck






Re: new cygwin-cross-1.3.6.1

2001-12-07 Thread Gerrit P. Haase

Hallo Christopher,

2001-12-07 18:02:54, du schriebst:

> On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 04:30:12PM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
>>Some people promised to have a look at my cross build scripts package
>>so I've made some fixes.  It should generate fully Cygwin compliant
>>binary and source packages now, I hope.

> I wonder if these same people will look at the cross build package that
> I checked into cvs months ago.

> Nah.  Probably not.

Ah, what is the name of this package?
I didn't know about it.

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Re: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Gerrit P. Haase

Hallo Mark,

2001-12-07 18:05:12, du schriebst:

> Going back to dig and host, I'm guessing that the maintainer would need to
> actually be a maintainer for the whole bind package?  Am I right in assuming
> that having bind as a cygwin package would provide libresolv functionality,
> or would more be required.

No just the resolver is needed to build the tools, I can query every NS so the
named isn't required and I think my 'native' Windows DNS Server is much faster.

> BTW, I can get bind 9.2 to compile with some modification

Great.  But there are some problems here.
If bind installs in /usr there are some files which collide, netdb.h, sys/cdefs.h,
arpa/inet.h.
A possibility to resolve this would be a split into runtime and devel version,
or the headers needs to be merged which is the better choice IMO.

On the other hand, the best would be to have a libresolv included with the C lib
or resolver functions in cygwin itself so bind isn't needed.

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Re: Figlet-2.2 Experimental

2001-12-07 Thread Gerrit P. Haase

Hallo Christopher,

2001-12-07 18:25:21, du schriebst:

>>I'm interested in being the package maintainer for figlet.

> How about an explanation about what figlet is?

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RE: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Bradshaw

ok.  Next question.  Can we shamelessly steal code from bind for inclusion
in cygwin?  I'm not familiar with its licensing, but the copyright notice
looks like it gives full permission to use their code as we see fit.  Can I
get an amen from someone who knows what they're talking about here?

And the next question, would we want to go that route?

Mark

> -Original Message-
> From: Gerrit P. Haase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 12:14 PM
> To: Mark Bradshaw
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: whois package
> 
> 
> Hallo Mark,
> 
> 2001-12-07 18:05:12, du schriebst:
> 
> > Going back to dig and host, I'm guessing that the 
> maintainer would need to
> > actually be a maintainer for the whole bind package?  Am I 
> right in assuming
> > that having bind as a cygwin package would provide 
> libresolv functionality,
> > or would more be required.
> 
> No just the resolver is needed to build the tools, I can 
> query every NS so the
> named isn't required and I think my 'native' Windows DNS 
> Server is much faster.
> 
> > BTW, I can get bind 9.2 to compile with some modification
> 
> Great.  But there are some problems here.
> If bind installs in /usr there are some files which collide, 
> netdb.h, sys/cdefs.h,
> arpa/inet.h.
> A possibility to resolve this would be a split into runtime 
> and devel version,
> or the headers needs to be merged which is the better choice IMO.
> 
> On the other hand, the best would be to have a libresolv 
> included with the C lib
> or resolver functions in cygwin itself so bind isn't needed.
> 
> Gerrit
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RE: whois package

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Bradshaw

Looking back into the archives it seems that Robert thought the way to go
would be a stub resolver.  Still think that way, Robert, and are you still
willing to help someone make it?

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Bradshaw 
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 12:33 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: whois package
> 
> 
> ok.  Next question.  Can we shamelessly steal code from bind 
> for inclusion
> in cygwin?  I'm not familiar with its licensing, but the 
> copyright notice
> looks like it gives full permission to use their code as we 
> see fit.  Can I
> get an amen from someone who knows what they're talking about here?
> 
> And the next question, would we want to go that route?
> 
> Mark
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Gerrit P. Haase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 12:14 PM
> > To: Mark Bradshaw
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: whois package
> > 
> > 
> > Hallo Mark,
> > 
> > 2001-12-07 18:05:12, du schriebst:
> > 
> > > Going back to dig and host, I'm guessing that the 
> > maintainer would need to
> > > actually be a maintainer for the whole bind package?  Am I 
> > right in assuming
> > > that having bind as a cygwin package would provide 
> > libresolv functionality,
> > > or would more be required.
> > 
> > No just the resolver is needed to build the tools, I can 
> > query every NS so the
> > named isn't required and I think my 'native' Windows DNS 
> > Server is much faster.
> > 
> > > BTW, I can get bind 9.2 to compile with some modification
> > 
> > Great.  But there are some problems here.
> > If bind installs in /usr there are some files which collide, 
> > netdb.h, sys/cdefs.h,
> > arpa/inet.h.
> > A possibility to resolve this would be a split into runtime 
> > and devel version,
> > or the headers needs to be merged which is the better choice IMO.
> > 
> > On the other hand, the best would be to have a libresolv 
> > included with the C lib
> > or resolver functions in cygwin itself so bind isn't needed.
> > 
> > Gerrit
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Re: Figlet-2.2 Experimental

2001-12-07 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 06:26:52PM +0100, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
>Hallo Christopher,
>
>2001-12-07 18:25:21, du schriebst:
>
>>>I'm interested in being the package maintainer for figlet.
>
>> How about an explanation about what figlet is?
>
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Was there something you wanted to say, here?  Just quoting other
people's messages isn't very useful.

cgf



Re: Figlet-2.2 Experimental

2001-12-07 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen

Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

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> 
> Was there something you wanted to say, here?  Just quoting other
> people's messages isn't very useful.

In this case it was, look at his unusually big signature.

00:28:19 fred@appel:~$ dpkg --status figlet
Package: figlet
Status: install ok installed
Description: Frank, Ian & Glenn's Letters
 Figlet is a program that creates large characters out of ordinary screen
 characters.

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Re: Figlet-2.2 Experimental

2001-12-07 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 12:31:28AM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
>Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> > __ _ ___ _ _ _ _(_) |_ 
>> >/ _` / -_) '_| '_| |  _|
>> >\__, \___|_| |_| |_|\__|
>> >|___/   
>> 
>> Was there something you wanted to say, here?  Just quoting other
>> people's messages isn't very useful.
>
>In this case it was, look at his unusually big signature.
>
>00:28:19 fred@appel:~$ dpkg --status figlet
>Package: figlet
>Status: install ok installed
>Description: Frank, Ian & Glenn's Letters
> Figlet is a program that creates large characters out of ordinary screen
> characters.

Which is really completely irrelevant and not what I asked for.

Hmm.  Pretty much like this message.

cgf



Re: Figlet-2.2 Experimental

2001-12-07 Thread Charles Wilson

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 12:31:28AM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
> >Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> > __ _ ___ _ _ _ _(_) |_
> >> >/ _` / -_) '_| '_| |  _|
> >> >\__, \___|_| |_| |_|\__|
> >> >|___/
> >>
> >> Was there something you wanted to say, here?  Just quoting other
> >> people's messages isn't very useful.
> >
> >In this case it was, look at his unusually big signature.
> >
> >00:28:19 fred@appel:~$ dpkg --status figlet
> >Package: figlet
> >Status: install ok installed
> >Description: Frank, Ian & Glenn's Letters
> > Figlet is a program that creates large characters out of ordinary screen
> > characters.
> 
> Which is really completely irrelevant and not what I asked for.
> 
> Hmm.  Pretty much like this message.

No, not really.  Gerrit was *demonstrating* rather than explaining what
figlet was.  That's fair -- but I prefer explanations WITH my
demonstrations...

--Chuck



Re: Figlet-2.2 Experimental

2001-12-07 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 07:31:34PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 12:31:28AM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
>> >Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >
>> >> > __ _ ___ _ _ _ _(_) |_
>> >> >/ _` / -_) '_| '_| |  _|
>> >> >\__, \___|_| |_| |_|\__|
>> >> >|___/
>> >>
>> >> Was there something you wanted to say, here?  Just quoting other
>> >> people's messages isn't very useful.
>> >
>> >In this case it was, look at his unusually big signature.
>> >
>> >00:28:19 fred@appel:~$ dpkg --status figlet
>> >Package: figlet
>> >Status: install ok installed
>> >Description: Frank, Ian & Glenn's Letters
>> > Figlet is a program that creates large characters out of ordinary screen
>> > characters.
>> 
>> Which is really completely irrelevant and not what I asked for.
>> 
>> Hmm.  Pretty much like this message.
>
>No, not really.  Gerrit was *demonstrating* rather than explaining what
>figlet was.  That's fair -- but I prefer explanations WITH my
>demonstrations...

To quote:
"Maybe just posting the proposed setup.hint file would be enough, with
ldesc, sdesc, category, and requires lines filled in."

Do you see a 'ldesc', 'sdesc', 'category', or 'required', here?

My reason for asking for this information is that it demonstrates that
the person who is interested in submitting the package (i.e., not
Gerrit, although I would have bet $20 that he would respond) actually
understands the conventions.

This seems like a really simple request to me.  I don't know why it
is so difficult to get this information.  I guess because it's
cygwin...

cgf



Re: Figlet-2.2 Experimental

2001-12-07 Thread Carl Ebrey

Hi again guys,

Sorry about the delay in responding.  I've just been reading the archives
for the list (because I wasn't subscribed to the lists at home, until just
now that is) and I see there's been quite a lot of traffic.  I'm not in
work until Monday now but as soon as I get there I'll upload the tarballs
somewhere so you can peruse them at your own pleasure.  In the mean time,
here's what I have for the setup.hint file (please remember that I'm
writing this "from scratch" because the file's still in work):

@figlet
sdesc: figlet-2.2 Experimental
ldesc: FIGlet is a program that creates
large characters out of ordinary screen
characters.   FIGlet can create characters
in many different styles and can kern and
"smush" these characters together in
various ways.  FIGlet output is generally
reminiscent of the sort of "signatures"
many people like to put at the end of
e-mail and UseNet messages.
test: 2.2-Experimental
category: text
requires: cygwin

Hope that helps you Chris.

Thanks,

Carl






Re: Figlet-2.2 Experimental

2001-12-07 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 01:33:58AM +, Carl Ebrey wrote:
>Hi again guys,
>
>Sorry about the delay in responding.  I've just been reading the archives
>for the list (because I wasn't subscribed to the lists at home, until just
>now that is) and I see there's been quite a lot of traffic.  I'm not in
>work until Monday now but as soon as I get there I'll upload the tarballs
>somewhere so you can peruse them at your own pleasure.  In the mean time,
>here's what I have for the setup.hint file (please remember that I'm
>writing this "from scratch" because the file's still in work):
>
>@figlet
>sdesc: figlet-2.2 Experimental
>ldesc: FIGlet is a program that creates
>large characters out of ordinary screen
>characters.   FIGlet can create characters
>in many different styles and can kern and
>"smush" these characters together in
>various ways.  FIGlet output is generally
>reminiscent of the sort of "signatures"
>many people like to put at the end of
>e-mail and UseNet messages.
>test: 2.2-Experimental
>category: text
>requires: cygwin
>
>Hope that helps you Chris.

In a sense it does.  The above has a number of problems.

The sdesc is incorrect, the ldesc needs to be quoted properly, and the version
number is wrong.

I guess I'm glad I asked.  If this setup.hint had showed up on
sources.redhat.com it would have confused the setuper updater.

Sorry.

cgf