RE: emacs or xemacs

2002-01-16 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: emacs or xemacs
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >And then too, not all of them are even *meant* to be funny. ;-)
> > 
> > I thought you were talking about the guy in M#A*S*H.  He wasn't meant
> > to be funny, or rather he was but he wasn't supposed to be purposely
> > funny.
> 
> That was Major Burns wasn't it?
> 
> Rob
>

No, I think he's Homer's boss on "The Simpsons".

Together: Third base! ;-)

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Re: last package

2002-01-16 Thread Charles Wilson



Christopher Faylor wrote:


> 
> I've just added you to the cygwin-apps group on sources.redhat.com:
> 
> cvs -d :ext:sources.redhat.com:/cvs/cygwin-apps co .
> 
> Feel free to add a cygutils directory.


Okay -- I've added it and imported v0.9.7.  Also, I've added Mark's last 
implementation and the supporting autotools changes so that last builds 
within cygutils. There is a licensing problem with Mark's changes to 
utmpdump so we're still waiting on that and his killall implementation.

Mark -- to see the diff, do the following:

$ export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/cygwin-apps
$ cvs login
(Logging in to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
CVS password: anoncvs
$ cvs co cygutils
$ cd cygutils
$ cvs diff -r v0_9_7 > my_patch
Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding.
cvs server: Diffing .
cvs server: tag v0_9_7 is not in file bootstrap
cvs server: Diffing licenses
cvs server: Diffing src-bsd
cvs server: Diffing src-gpl
cvs server: tag v0_9_7 is not in file src-gpl/last.1
cvs server: tag v0_9_7 is not in file src-gpl/last.c
cvs server: tag v0_9_7 is not in file src-gpl/lastb.1
cvs server: tag v0_9_7 is not in file src-gpl/oldutmp.h
cvs server: Diffing src-pd

Translation:
   I added the last.1, lastb.1, last.c and oldutmp.h files to the 
src-gpl subdirectory.
   I made additional changes to:
 AUTHORS (added Mark)
 ChangeLog (always a good idea...)
 PROGLIST (added last)
 README (mentioned last)
 src/Makefile.am  ( This is the biggie )
 src/Makefile.in  (running bootstrap regenerates this
   based on the Makefile.am changes)

That's the kind of thing that I'd expect as a large "add a new program 
to cygutils" patch.

--Chuck




Re: emacs or xemacs

2002-01-16 Thread Robert Collins

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >And then too, not all of them are even *meant* to be funny. ;-)
> 
> I thought you were talking about the guy in M#A*S*H.  He wasn't meant
> to be funny, or rather he was but he wasn't supposed to be purposely
> funny.

That was Major Burns wasn't it?

Rob




Re: emacs or xemacs

2002-01-16 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 10:41:09PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Corinna Vinschen
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 09:36:17PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Starks-Browning
>> > >
>> > > This is not *the* Ken Stevens, is it?
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > The guy that did "Wild World" and "Peace Train"?  Those ROCK dude!
>> > 
>> > Oh wait, that was Ken Burns.  Nevermind.
>> 
>> Huh?  Wasn't that Cat Stevens?
>
>Yeah.  Ken Burns is a guy that does historical documentaries on PBS.
>
>And then too, not all of them are even *meant* to be funny. ;-)

I thought you were talking about the guy in M#A*S*H.  He wasn't meant
to be funny, or rather he was but he wasn't supposed to be purposely
funny.

cgf



RE: emacs or xemacs

2002-01-16 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Corinna Vinschen
> 
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 09:36:17PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Starks-Browning
> > >
> > > This is not *the* Ken Stevens, is it?
> > > 
> > 
> > The guy that did "Wild World" and "Peace Train"?  Those ROCK dude!
> > 
> > Oh wait, that was Ken Burns.  Nevermind.
> 
> Huh?  Wasn't that Cat Stevens?

Yeah.  Ken Burns is a guy that does historical documentaries on PBS.

And then too, not all of them are even *meant* to be funny. ;-)

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Something good has begun"



Re: RFC: updated package wget-1.7.1-1

2002-01-16 Thread Hack Kampbjørn

Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 11:52:01PM +0100, Hack Kampbjørn wrote:
> > Ok, good point. I've now removed the /etc/wgetrc file from the package
> > and only copy it if none is present as suggested. I suppose I could
> > change the wget.sh to sed the postinstall script into /etc/postintall
> > instead of (as now) just copying it, but that will wait for next week
> > when I'll work on version 1.8 8-)
> 
> I don't understand what you mean.  The postinstall script must be
> already in the tar file, so, uhm...
> 

Sorry, this was more a comment to Chuck. When he said: "Of course,
future versions must
take care to change the /usr/doc/wget-1.7.1/"
And if those changes are done manually chances are I'll forget it for
some updated 8-(

So let the script that packages the hole thing just take care of it.
 
> > Will some of you upload it to sources.redhat.com ?
> 
> I'm going to upload it right now.
> 

Thanks, I'll send an announcement then.

> Corinna
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Re: RFC: updated package wget-1.7.1-1

2002-01-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 11:52:01PM +0100, Hack Kampbjørn wrote:
> Ok, good point. I've now removed the /etc/wgetrc file from the package
> and only copy it if none is present as suggested. I suppose I could
> change the wget.sh to sed the postinstall script into /etc/postintall
> instead of (as now) just copying it, but that will wait for next week
> when I'll work on version 1.8 8-)

I don't understand what you mean.  The postinstall script must be
already in the tar file, so, uhm...

> Will some of you upload it to sources.redhat.com ?

I'm going to upload it right now.

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Re: RFC: updated package wget-1.7.1-1

2002-01-16 Thread Hack Kampbjørn

Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 09:32:22PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote:
> > It looks pretty good to me -- I rebuilt it from source right now and it
> > seems okay.  The *only* quibble I have is that the binary package
> > contains this file:
> >
> > /etc/wgetrc
> >
> > Since it is just a copy of /usr/doc/wget-1.7.1/sample.wgetrc, you should
> > probably just add some logic to your postinstall shell script:
> >
> > if [ ! -f /etc/wgetrc ]; then
> >   cp /usr/doc/wget-1.7.1/sample.wgetrc /etc/wgetrc
> > fi
> >
> > Of course, future versions must take care to change the
> > /usr/doc/wget-1.7.1/ path in that script...
> 
> I agree.  It's some months ago when somebody complained on the cygwin
> mailing list that each new openssh version overwrites the config files
> which has been changed by the user with so much love in detail...

Ok, good point. I've now removed the /etc/wgetrc file from the package
and only copy it if none is present as suggested. I suppose I could
change the wget.sh to sed the postinstall script into /etc/postintall
instead of (as now) just copying it, but that will wait for next week
when I'll work on version 1.8 8-)

Will some of you upload it to sources.redhat.com ?

http://hackdata.com/cygwin/wget-1.7.1-1.tar.bz2
http://hackdata.com/cygwin/wget-1.7.1-1-src.tar.bz2
http://hackdata.com/cygwin/setup.hint

sdesc: "Utility to retrieve files from the WWW via HTTP and FTP"
ldesc: "GNU Wget is a file retrieval utility which can use either the
HTTP, HTTPS, or FTP protocols. Wget features include the ability to work
in the background while you're logged out, recursive retrieval of
directories, file name wildcard matching, remote file timestamp storage
and comparison, use of Rest with FTP servers and Range with HTTP servers
to retrieve files over slow or unstable connections, support for Proxy
servers, and configurability."
category: Web
requires: openssl libintl1 ash cygwin


> 
> It's actually better the package only installs new config files if
> there don't exist old ones.  That's best handled in the postinstall
> script.
> 
> I'm just still thinking about the following situation.
> 
> Sometimes a package changes the config file layout or some other
> important detail has been removed or has been added.  How do we
> inform the user?  Rpm packages often rename the old config file
> to foo.conf.rpmsave or foo.conf.rpmold and the admin gets mail
> about an important change in package foo.
> 

I hate when rpm does that. I really prefer when it leaves a
foo.conf.rpmnew file to look at (or just delete).

> We don't have the mail mechanism at hand so... I don't know.
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> Corinna
> 
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RE: rebase for setup.

2002-01-16 Thread Roth, Kevin P.

I'm guessing strip opens all files in binary mode, so that shouldn't
matter. However, I haven't used text mode mounts for quite some time, so
I doubt that's the explanation for my initial curl.dll issues.

--KEvin







Jason Tishler wrote:
> 
> Any ideas why stripping prevents some DLLs from being rebased and
> not others?  Any solutions besides not stripping?
> 

Text mode mounts?

Earnie




Re: rebase for setup.

2002-01-16 Thread Earnie Boyd

Jason Tishler wrote:
> 
> Any ideas why stripping prevents some DLLs from being rebased and
> not others?  Any solutions besides not stripping?
> 

Text mode mounts?

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Re: rebase for setup.

2002-01-16 Thread Jason Tishler

Rob,

On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 12:21:11AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote:
> From: "Jason Tishler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 1. Determine why cygcurl-2.dll and possibly other DLLs do not tolerate
> > rebasing.
> 
> Hmm. Yes. Did you rebase .dll's after stripping them? And what strip
> options where used?

After some more rebase runs, I believe that I have determined that
stripping is the problem:

$ strip -o pq-all.dll pq.dll 
$ strip -g -o pq-debug.dll pq.dll 
$ strip --strip-unneeded -o pq-unneeded.dll pq.dll

$ file pq*dll
pq-all.dll:  MS Windows PE Intel 80386 console DLL
pq-debug.dll:MS Windows PE Intel 80386 console DLL
pq-unneeded.dll: MS Windows PE Intel 80386 console DLL
pq.dll:  MS Windows PE Intel 80386 console DLL

$ rebase -b 0x6800 pq*dll
pq-all.dll: new base = 6800, new size = 2
pq-debug.dll: new base = 6800, new size = 2
pq-unneeded.dll: new base = 6800, new size = 2
pq.dll: new base = 6800, new size = 2

$ file pq*dll
pq-all.dll:  MS-DOS executable (EXE), OS/2 or MS Windows
pq-debug.dll:MS-DOS executable (EXE), OS/2 or MS Windows
pq-unneeded.dll: MS-DOS executable (EXE), OS/2 or MS Windows
pq.dll:  MS Windows PE Intel 80386 console DLL

$ objdump -p pq*dll | fgrep ImageBase
objdump: pq-all.dll: File format not recognized
objdump: pq-debug.dll: File format not recognized
objdump: pq-unneeded.dll: File format not recognized
ImageBase   6800

I got the same results for curl too.

Any ideas why stripping prevents some DLLs from being rebased and
not others?  Any solutions besides not stripping?

Thanks,
Jason



Re: cygpath patch

2002-01-16 Thread Joshua Franklin

>On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 07:16:12AM -0800, Joshua
>Franklin wrote:
>> I've fixed my patch so it behaves correctly, but 
>> I can't post to cygwin-patches as I'm not a
>> subscriber.
>> What to do?
>
>Subscribing?
>
>Corinna

Sigh. Perhaps when I get over being clueless I'll
contribute something useful. I thought it was by 
invitation only, then I reread the page and 
subscribed. Patch will be sent soon.

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Re: Apache 1.3.22-3 ready to go?!

2002-01-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 08:07:31PM +0100, Stipe Tolj wrote:
> I'm not quite sure how we may include Apache shared module DLL
> packages to the Cygwin net distro?! I would like to keep the core
> distribution stand alone and add something like "mod_ssl-2.x.tar.bz"
> for the shared modules only. I guess this may be a usefull way?!

Yup.  That's fine.  As well as additional modules as mod_perl
or mod_python which also can link against the appropriate dlls.

Corinna

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Re: Apache 1.3.22-3 ready to go?!

2002-01-16 Thread Stipe Tolj

Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> Yup.  It's using the wrong path.  And it doesn't work that
> way apparently without the option not to fork.
> 
> I grubbed a bit in the apache documentation and found that the
> native Windows version has two command line options `-n' and
> `-k' to install, stop and restart apache as service.
> 
> Wouldn't it make sense to use that part of the source code for
> the Cygwin apache, too?  It must be similar to the service stuff
> in inetd.
> 
> Anyway, I have no preferences.  You can use your own option for
> starting with cygrunsrv or the native Windows options, whatever
> is less work.

I'll see how dificult the native Win32 thing is to include, otherwise
I'll drop back to sshd's option to "not fork" for cygrunsrv support.

> Another question:  Are you planning to support mod_ssl in future
> as well?  I'm sure it would be most appriciated.  If I'm not
> completely off track, it's needed to allow https connections to
> apache, right?

yep, mod_ssl is the glue between Apache and OpenSSL to implement the
HTTPS scheme. BTW, mod_ssl is "more then a regular" Apache API
modules, because Ralf adds the EAPI (enhanced API) to the Apache
source tree. It's required to get additional hooks into Apache's core
structure, which are not supported by the regular API.

mod_ssl is supposed to compile and build OOTB on Cygwin. See CAMP
distribution page at http://apache.dev.wapme.net/packages/ for a
working version under Cygwin.

I'm not quite sure how we may include Apache shared module DLL
packages to the Cygwin net distro?! I would like to keep the core
distribution stand alone and add something like "mod_ssl-2.x.tar.bz"
for the shared modules only. I guess this may be a usefull way?!

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Re: last package

2002-01-16 Thread Charles Wilson



Mark Bradshaw wrote:

> Charles,
>When you get back to reading the list, I'm ready to include last,
> utmpdump, and killall (working without /proc!) in cygutils.  Drop me a
> line...


If you've already done the work of integrating your new files and 
makefile changes into the cygutils source dist, then send me a patch. 
Otherwise, if you just send me the new files and special notes for how 
to build them (libraries needed, etc) then I can add them to cygutils. 
Also, I'd need to know what license the original source last, utmpdump, 
and killall programs were distributed under -- GPL, BSD-w/advert, 
BSD-no/advert, public domain, etc.

--Chuck





RE: last package

2002-01-16 Thread Mark Bradshaw

Charles,
   When you get back to reading the list, I'm ready to include last,
utmpdump, and killall (working without /proc!) in cygutils.  Drop me a
line...

Mark

> -Original Message-
> From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:11 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: last package
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:06:08PM -0500, Mark Bradshaw wrote:
> > Charles:
> > OK.  Scratch killall.  I didn't realize it used /proc.  
> :o(  Anyway,
> > what do you want for last and utmpdump.
> > 
> > Anyone else:
> > Is there anyone currently working on a /proc filesystem, or have
> > plans that direction?
> 
> Oooh... big job... pretty beeg job...
> 
> Corinna
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Re: cygpath patch

2002-01-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 07:16:12AM -0800, Joshua Franklin wrote:
> I've fixed my patch so it behaves correctly, but 
> I can't post to cygwin-patches as I'm not a
> subscriber.
> What to do?

Subscribing?

Corinna

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Re: Apache 1.3.22-3 ready to go?!

2002-01-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 04:13:38PM +0100, Stipe Tolj wrote:
> Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > 
> > Btw., I've found the description how to install apache as service
> > under cygrunsrv.  The only problem was that it's on a html page
> > so I first found it after I already had installed apache under inetd.
> 
> so I guess you mean http://httpd.apache.org/docs/cygwin.html#serv ?!
> -- which I have writen :))

Yup.  It's using the wrong path.  And it doesn't work that
way apparently without the option not to fork.

I grubbed a bit in the apache documentation and found that the
native Windows version has two command line options `-n' and
`-k' to install, stop and restart apache as service.

Wouldn't it make sense to use that part of the source code for
the Cygwin apache, too?  It must be similar to the service stuff
in inetd.

Anyway, I have no preferences.  You can use your own option for
starting with cygrunsrv or the native Windows options, whatever
is less work.

Another question:  Are you planning to support mod_ssl in future
as well?  I'm sure it would be most appriciated.  If I'm not
completely off track, it's needed to allow https connections to
apache, right?

Corinna

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Re: Apache 1.3.22-3 ready to go?!

2002-01-16 Thread Stipe Tolj

Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> Btw., I've found the description how to install apache as service
> under cygrunsrv.  The only problem was that it's on a html page
> so I first found it after I already had installed apache under inetd.

so I guess you mean http://httpd.apache.org/docs/cygwin.html#serv ?!
-- which I have writen :))


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cygpath patch

2002-01-16 Thread Joshua Franklin

I've fixed my patch so it behaves correctly, but 
I can't post to cygwin-patches as I'm not a
subscriber.
What to do?



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texmf matching new tetex-beta-20001218-3

2002-01-16 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen

Hi List,

Last night, I've built the texmf-* suite matching Jerome's
latest rebuild tetex-beta-20001218-3.

It is available for testing at:

http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf

Note:
  * These packages depend on tetex-beta-20001218-3 for full operation.
  * If you install by hand, run /etc/postinstall/post-texmf.sh.
  * If you have MiKTeX installed, please be sure to remove any
custom TEXINPUTS, MFINPUTS etc. environment settings that contain
DOS style paths.
  * TeX cannot handle spaces in file names.  If your $HOME contains
spaces, you may need to run TeX from another cwd, eg, /tmp.

Would someone be so kind to take a look and load it up if everything
is OK?  After a successful installation, you should be able to run, eg,

latex sample2e

Greetings,
Jan.


[there may be a working setup.ini at http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing]


http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf/setup.hint

sdesc: "The TeX text formatting system (install helper)"
ldesc: "A dependency on this package installs a usable TeX installation."
category: Text
requires: cygwin tetex-beta texmf-base
# requires: cygwin tetex-beta texmf-base|texmf-tiny

http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf/texmf-2804-2.README
http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf/texmf-2804-2-src.tar.bz2
http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf/texmf-2804-2.tar.bz2

===

http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf/texmf-base/setup.hint

sdesc: "The TeX text formatting system (basic libraries)"
ldesc: "Basic library files for the Cygwin teTeX distribution.  Together with
tetex-beta you have a useful TeX installation.  With texmf-extra, you have a
complete installation."
category: Text
requires: ash cygwin ed jpeg libncurses6 libpng tiff sed termcap tetex-beta zlib
#suggests: texmf-extra texmf-doc

http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf/texmf-base/texmf-base-2804-2.tar.bz2

===

http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf/texmf-doc/setup.hint

sdesc: "The TeX text formatting system (documentation)"
ldesc: "Documentation for the Cygwin teTeX distribution"
category: Doc
requires: cygwin

http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf/texmf-doc/texmf-doc-2804-2.tar.bz2

===

http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf/texmf-extra/setup.hint

sdesc: "The TeX text formatting system (extra libraries)"
ldesc: "Extra library files for the Cygwin teTeX distribution.  Together with
tetex-beta and texmf-base you have a complete TeX installation."
category: Text
requires: tetex-beta texmf-base

http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf/texmf-extra/texmf-extra-2804-2.tar.bz2

===

http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf/texmf-tiny/setup.hint

sdesc: "The TeX text formatting system (tiny libraries subset)"
ldesc: "Very small subset of library files for the Cygwin teTeX distribution.
Together with tetex-beta you have a minimal TeX installation.  For a
reasonable TeX installation, texmf-base is recommended."
category: Text
requires: ash cygwin ed jpeg libncurses6 libpng tiff sed termcap tetex-beta zlib

http://lilypond.org/cygwin/testing/tar/texmf/texmf-tiny/texmf-tiny-2804-2.tar.bz2


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Re: Maintainers of CURL, MUTT, PYTHON and WGET, heads up!

2002-01-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:00:53PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hack Kampbjørn
> >
> >
> > "Roth, Kevin P." wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, I checked an actual SSL connection. It actually worked ;-)
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >
> > So I'm the last one to report back.
> 
> AHEM!  I believe that would be "Second to last" my good man! ;-)

:-) Sigh, men... :-)

> Generated config.h has RSA, IDEA, and RC5 support disabled.  Still haven't found

You could look for MDC2 but I don't know how usual that algorithm is,
actually.

> something to try to connect to, but AFAICT everything should be OK according to
> what you said in your email.

Fine!  I'm going to upload the new version as `curr' version
today or tomorrow then.  I've fixed the export statement in the
etc/profile.d/openssh.sh script and I didn't get any other complain
so I'm hopeful that this update will be fairly smooth. (Famous last
words)

> PS: Contrary to all indications, I am still working on a new mutt release.

Cool.  You're working on 1.3.25, right?  The security hole, you know...

Corinna

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Re: RFC: updated package wget-1.7.1-1

2002-01-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 09:32:22PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote:
> It looks pretty good to me -- I rebuilt it from source right now and it 
> seems okay.  The *only* quibble I have is that the binary package 
> contains this file:
> 
> /etc/wgetrc
> 
> Since it is just a copy of /usr/doc/wget-1.7.1/sample.wgetrc, you should 
> probably just add some logic to your postinstall shell script:
> 
> if [ ! -f /etc/wgetrc ]; then
>   cp /usr/doc/wget-1.7.1/sample.wgetrc /etc/wgetrc
> fi
> 
> Of course, future versions must take care to change the 
> /usr/doc/wget-1.7.1/ path in that script...

I agree.  It's some months ago when somebody complained on the cygwin
mailing list that each new openssh version overwrites the config files
which has been changed by the user with so much love in detail...

It's actually better the package only installs new config files if
there don't exist old ones.  That's best handled in the postinstall
script.

I'm just still thinking about the following situation.

Sometimes a package changes the config file layout or some other
important detail has been removed or has been added.  How do we
inform the user?  Rpm packages often rename the old config file
to foo.conf.rpmsave or foo.conf.rpmold and the admin gets mail
about an important change in package foo.

We don't have the mail mechanism at hand so... I don't know.

Suggestions?

Corinna

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Re: last package

2002-01-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:06:08PM -0500, Mark Bradshaw wrote:
> Charles:
>   OK.  Scratch killall.  I didn't realize it used /proc.  :o(  Anyway,
> what do you want for last and utmpdump.
> 
> Anyone else:
>   Is there anyone currently working on a /proc filesystem, or have
> plans that direction?

Oooh... big job... pretty beeg job...

Corinna

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Re: emacs or xemacs

2002-01-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 09:36:17PM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Starks-Browning
> >
> > This is not *the* Ken Stevens, is it?
> > 
> 
> The guy that did "Wild World" and "Peace Train"?  Those ROCK dude!
> 
> Oh wait, that was Ken Burns.  Nevermind.

Huh?  Wasn't that Cat Stevens?

Corinna

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Re: Apache 1.3.22-3 ready to go?!

2002-01-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 09:22:07AM +0100, Stipe Tolj wrote:
> Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > If you could patch httpd to get a new option which differs from the
> > usual run mode only by not forking and detaching the master process,
> > we could start it using cygrunsrv as well.  That shouldn't be too
> > hard.  The -D option in sshd is really just skipping a function call
> > `daemon()'.
> 
> ok, I'll put my hands on it. 

Thanks.

> BTW, is this going to be released then as package apache-1.3.22-4 or
> do we version back to -1? -- I guess users may be confused and may
> assume there have been 3 previous releases? Anyway I vote for -4,
> otherwise we would break the "respect revision numbers in any case"
> rule.

I think we can just begin with -4.  IIRC, it's not the first
package.  Our subversions are just way smaller than in most Linux
distros :-)

> > Otherwise we could upload apache as is but with a description how
> > to start under inetd in the /usr/doc/Cygwin/apache* README.  I'd
> > ask you to implement the above option, though.
> 
> yep, today.

Btw., I've found the description how to install apache as service
under cygrunsrv.  The only problem was that it's on a html page
so I first found it after I already had installed apache under inetd.

There's a small glitch in there.  It uses the /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd
path instead of /usr/sbin/httpd.  

I tried to start apache under cygrunsrv using the description but
it forks as I expected, so cygrunsrv reports

  cygrunsrv: Error starting a service: QueryServiceStatus:  Win32 error 1062:
  The service has not been started.

and I couldn't contact apache with a browser even if there was an
instance of apache running.  While there's not the option to
start it correctly under cygrunsrv... do I have to give some
other option?  In my httpd.conf I changed

  ServerType inetd

back to

  ServerType standalone

and added

  User Guest
  Group Guests

That apache process was running under SYSTEM account, though.  Am I
doing something wrong?

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Re: Apache 1.3.22-3 ready to go?!

2002-01-16 Thread Charles Wilson

Stipe Tolj wrote:


> BTW, is this going to be released then as package apache-1.3.22-4 or
> do we version back to -1? -- I guess users may be confused and may
> assume there have been 3 previous releases? Anyway I vote for -4,
> otherwise we would break the "respect revision numbers in any case"
> rule.


-4 is fine.  We skip release numbers all the time (or at least I do).  I 
might go thru two or three -REL numbers that are purely for internal use 
and testing, before I ever let anybody on the net see it.

--Chuck





Re: Apache 1.3.22-3 ready to go?!

2002-01-16 Thread Stipe Tolj

Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> This is similar to the -X option in httpd but that option let httpd
> running in single process mode.  That's more like the -d option in
> sshd which is only useful for debugging purposes, either.

yep.

> If you could patch httpd to get a new option which differs from the
> usual run mode only by not forking and detaching the master process,
> we could start it using cygrunsrv as well.  That shouldn't be too
> hard.  The -D option in sshd is really just skipping a function call
> `daemon()'.

ok, I'll put my hands on it. 

BTW, is this going to be released then as package apache-1.3.22-4 or
do we version back to -1? -- I guess users may be confused and may
assume there have been 3 previous releases? Anyway I vote for -4,
otherwise we would break the "respect revision numbers in any case"
rule.

> Otherwise we could upload apache as is but with a description how
> to start under inetd in the /usr/doc/Cygwin/apache* README.  I'd
> ask you to implement the above option, though.

yep, today.

Stipe

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