Re: textmode web browsers and their setup.hint descriptions

2003-12-27 Thread Lapo Luchini
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Harold L Hunt II wrote:

| I don't see the point in discussing it.  Just propose a set of new
| sdesc's and ldesc's.  If they are fine, I'll put them in the
| packages that I maintain.  Honestly, it isn't easy to come up with
| good descriptions since the home page of each project has roughly
| the same descriptive sentence.
I agree it's not easy to differentiate them, but at least let's try
not to let them "clash" with each other (like "lynx has good support
for tables" and "unlike lynx it supports tables") 0=)
Some possible sdesc could be:

lynx = "The first text-mode WWW browser"
links = "Improved text-mode WWW browser with support for frames"
elinks = "An extension of links, a text-mode WWW browser"
Maybe we could also point out that links and elinks are "alive", while
lynx' last release is in 2001.
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Re: textmode web browsers and their setup.hint descriptions

2003-12-27 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Lapo,

I don't see the point in discussing it.  Just propose a set of new 
sdesc's and ldesc's.  If they are fine, I'll put them in the packages 
that I maintain.  Honestly, it isn't easy to come up with good 
descriptions since the home page of each project has roughly the same 
descriptive sentence.

Harold

Lapo Luchini wrote:
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Harold L Hunt II wrote:
| I would like to contribute and maintain elinks
when we will have "lynx", "links" and "elinks" I think it culd be very
useful to differentiate descriptions a bit.
lynx = "Text-mode WWW Browser"
"Lynx is a terminal based WWW browser. While it does not make any attempt
at displaying graphics, it has good support for HTML text formatting,
forms, and tables.  This version includes support for SSL encryption."
links = "Text mode web browser"
"Links is a very capable text-mode web browser. It obeys
keyboard commands similar to lynx but unlike lynx, links supports
the HTML TABLE tag. Links also allows you to download files in the
background."
elinks = "Text mode web browser"
"ELinks is a program for browsing the web in text mode."
At least "links" tries to be "better" than "lynx" in the ldesc, but
ldescs are not yet used by setup.exe, imho they should be different in
the sdesc also.
The ldesc of elinks is way too underscriptive IMHO.
The differences in the sdesc od "lynx" and "links" are also quite
ridicolous: if we really want to use that description then let's use the
*very* same for both, not a sligthly modified version of the same
description.
BTW: lynx's ldesc talks about support for tables, links's ldesc negates
that... where is the truth?
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textmode web browsers and their setup.hint descriptions

2003-12-27 Thread Lapo Luchini
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Harold L Hunt II wrote:
| I would like to contribute and maintain elinks
when we will have "lynx", "links" and "elinks" I think it culd be very
useful to differentiate descriptions a bit.
lynx = "Text-mode WWW Browser"
"Lynx is a terminal based WWW browser. While it does not make any attempt
at displaying graphics, it has good support for HTML text formatting,
forms, and tables.  This version includes support for SSL encryption."
links = "Text mode web browser"
"Links is a very capable text-mode web browser. It obeys
keyboard commands similar to lynx but unlike lynx, links supports
the HTML TABLE tag. Links also allows you to download files in the
background."
elinks = "Text mode web browser"
"ELinks is a program for browsing the web in text mode."
At least "links" tries to be "better" than "lynx" in the ldesc, but
ldescs are not yet used by setup.exe, imho they should be different in
the sdesc also.
The ldesc of elinks is way too underscriptive IMHO.
The differences in the sdesc od "lynx" and "links" are also quite
ridicolous: if we really want to use that description then let's use the
*very* same for both, not a sligthly modified version of the same
description.
BTW: lynx's ldesc talks about support for tables, links's ldesc negates
that... where is the truth?
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joe-2.9.8 and ce-1.3.0

2003-12-27 Thread SP
Hello. I've tried to contact the developers of these packages but it appears
to exist some problem with the mail (mine or their). This message is only
to tell you that I could compile succesfully both editors under cygwin.
The joe editor has its own ./configure, but ce editor needs a little hack.

Cheers

Sergio





vim / cream

2003-12-27 Thread Bruce Ingalls
Some members of this list expressed interest in packaging
http://cream.sourceforge.net/
for Cygwin. Here is why I doubt this will happen soon:
I chatted with Steve Hall, the author, and unfortunately, Cream is only 
effective, when run as a gui with menus.
Cream is partially useful for console mode, but not much is planned to 
pursue that direction.

Note that porting Cream to be used with Cygnome's gvim makes sense. This 
brings back the issues I faced in packaging EMacro: how to centralize 
the startup, or deal with distributing .vimrc-s to each HOME directory.
Some versions of Vim do support /etc/vimrc for startup. This may not 
work so well with Cream, which was written to work in HOME directories, 
AFAIK.

Happy Holidays!