Re: [ITP] FUSE 2.8

2016-07-23 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 23 00:23, Bill Zissimopoulos wrote:
> On 7/22/16, 12:56 PM, Adrien JUND wrote:
> 
> 
> >For information on your last release: curl -u "username"
> >https://api.github.com/repos/billziss-gh/winfsp/releases
> >=> winfsp-0.14.16197.msi - "download_count": 24
> 
> This is beginning to feel a bit weird. You seem to be rather obsessed with
> how many users my project has. Hint: GitHub is not the primary place where
> I make binary releases.
> 
> >You seem to also don't know how many people use it.
> 
> :-D
> 
> Ok, I will make sure to contact you next time I need to read web server
> stats.

Guys,

no idea what's up between you, but this discussion is gross.

Here's an idea:  You both slap yourself and start talking to each other.

For the Windows *and* Cygwin world it would be *much* preferrable if you
work together and create a single, unified FUSE concept, rather than
having two projects doing almost, but not entirely, the same thing,
Worse, given that FUSE only makes sense if user-space filesystems exist,
we now have two FUSE concepts with a disjunct set of user-space drivers.

Great :(

My interest in both of your projects has just dwindled considerably.


Corinna

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Re: [ITP] FUSE 2.8

2016-07-23 Thread Bill Zissimopoulos
On 7/23/16, 3:40 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

>
>no idea what's up between you, but this discussion is gross...
>
>My interest in both of your projects has just dwindled considerably.

Corinna, understood. I think this may have been the point.

I was planning to work for a solution for how to have multiple *-fuse
packages coexist based on Marco’s great answer. If you do not believe
there is any interest any more please let me know.

Bill



Re: [ITP] FUSE 2.8

2016-07-23 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 23 16:43, Bill Zissimopoulos wrote:
> On 7/23/16, 3:40 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> >
> >no idea what's up between you, but this discussion is gross...
> >
> >My interest in both of your projects has just dwindled considerably.
> 
> Corinna, understood. I think this may have been the point.

So you quoted my knee-jerk reaction but missed to quote the *real* point
of my mail.  Fixed that for you:

> > Here's an idea:  You both slap yourself and start talking to each other.
> > 
> > For the Windows *and* Cygwin world it would be *much* preferrable if you
> > work together and create a single, unified FUSE concept, rather than
> > having two projects doing almost, but not entirely, the same thing,
> > Worse, given that FUSE only makes sense if user-space filesystems exist,
> > we now have two FUSE concepts with a disjunct set of user-space drivers.

> I was planning to work for a solution for how to have multiple *-fuse
> packages coexist based on Marco’s great answer.

Which is not the answer I'd expected since it completely ignores the
part about "talking to each other", "single FUSE concept" and
"collaboration".

> If you do not believe
> there is any interest any more please let me know.

I was talking about *my* interest.  Naturally I'm not speaking for the
entire group of maintainers.

I wouldn't block a package if there's no good reason like licensing
problems or a package completly ignoring collision with other, existing
packages.


Corinna

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Re: [ITP] FUSE 2.8

2016-07-23 Thread Bill Zissimopoulos
On 7/23/16, 10:48 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:


>So you quoted my knee-jerk reaction but missed to quote the *real* point
>of my mail.  Fixed that for you:
>
>> > Here's an idea:  You both slap yourself and start talking to each
>>other.
>> > 
>> > For the Windows *and* Cygwin world it would be *much* preferrable if
>>you
>> > work together and create a single, unified FUSE concept, rather than
>> > having two projects doing almost, but not entirely, the same thing,
>> > Worse, given that FUSE only makes sense if user-space filesystems
>>exist,
>> > we now have two FUSE concepts with a disjunct set of user-space
>>drivers.
>
>> I was planning to work for a solution for how to have multiple *-fuse
>> packages coexist based on Marco’s great answer.
>
>Which is not the answer I'd expected since it completely ignores the
>part about "talking to each other", "single FUSE concept" and
>"collaboration".

Corinna, I apologize to you and the list for not being on my best
behavior. However…

I *have* contributed to Dokany. Despite the fact that my own project is
independent and not a Dokan fork (and has a completely different
design/architecture), a couple of days ago I suggested on their mailing
list that I would still work with them. The events of the last couple of
days changed my mind.

I work on my project(s) because I can and because I find that it is fun,
even when I am debugging for 2 days why the LazyWriter hangs in some
obscure kernel corner. If it gets too political it stops being fun. If I
am forced to work on something I would rather not, it stops being fun too.

I want to contribute to Cygwin, because I have been a user since the early
2000’s and because I cannot live on Windows without it. I thought I had
something to contribute after all this time. Unfortunately it looks like
the price of admission may be higher than I am willing to pay at this time.

Thank you and regards,

Bill