Re: LICENSE: base-files and use of CC0 - public domain

2012-10-26 Thread David Sastre Medina 
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:26:59PM -0600, Warren Young wrote:
> On 10/25/2012 11:49 AM, Jari Aalto wrote:
> >
> >Neither OSI, nor FSF recommend use of "public domain" for Open Source
> >software.
> 
> I think you should total up the list of recommendations the FSF has
> made over the years, and decide if you really want to be constrained
> use only things that make FSF happy.
> 
> >FSF recommends use of existing licences (GNU licences, Apache
> >...), likewise OSI:
> >
> > "We recommend that you always apply an approved Open Source license to
> > software you are releasing, rather than try to
> > waive copyright [= put into public domain] altogether."
> > http://opensource.org/faq#public-domain
> 
> CC0 is a bit more complicated than pure public domain.
> 
> > ... This “Give-It-Away” license provides no protection for anyone
> > if the donated software causes harm (...) one [cannot] escape a
> > lawsuit just because his gift was only accidentally harmful.
> 
> CC0 contains a warranty disclaimer.  (§4.b.)
> 
> >If "utmost free" were the initial intention -- What was wrong with the
> >BSD[1] or MIT licenses, which are desinged to be Open Source software
> >licenses?
> 
> My point is that this is basically what you get, when you live
> somewhere that doesn't allow public domain copyright disclaimer.

When I first decided to use CC0, I admitedly didn't do too much of a
research. I concur with Corinna that the contents of the base-files package is
simple enough not to even worry about licensing, but as concern about
this reached the list[1], I simply looked for something a little bit more 
serious
than the beer-ware[2] license and used it: I found the CC0 to be FSF[3] 
approved,
and I thought it was an authoritative enough source of information.

I really don't mind to move to any of BSD-2 or GPLv3 if needed, but I
definitely don't want to see my name in each and every one of the
files, because I'm only the mantainer here, and most of the code was
already there or has been contributed by others, so before I merge
those kindly sent pull-requests, I'd like to know if the copyright attribution 
in the headers could reference the cygwin project, something like:

( Copyright (c) 2010-2012 The cygwin project  )

That would be both fair and accurate. Thanks for any pointers.

[1] Sorry, didn't find it in the archives, look for it around October 2011
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beerware
[3] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#CC0
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Re: LICENSE: base-files and use of CC0 - public domain

2012-10-25 Thread David Sastre Medina 
> https://github.com/dsastrem/base-files.git

Most probably, a wrong assumption on my side.
I am not a lawyer, and most of this parlance goes far beyond my
understanding. I wouldn't mean any harm whatsoever to this project, or
would I purposedly introduced a legal flaw by using the Public Domain
License in the base-files package contents.
What would be more appropriate? GPLv3?

On other news, I'm frankly short of time to dedicate to base-files
mantainership. It has a long time pending promotion from test to
current. The aforementioned github repo is available to anyone who
would like to adopt it, as well as the packages from cygwin.com, of
course. The only outstanding issue I can think of right now, would be 
to revert this change:

-PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:${PATH}"
+ORIGINAL_PATH="${PATH}"
+PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin"

The details about this issue can be found here:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2012-08/msg00488.html

I'm still actively monitoring the cygwin list, so I'll try to respond
promptly to any comments or suggestions regarding this question.

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Re: RFU: keychain 2.7.1-1 (ITA: new maintainer)

2012-10-10 Thread David Sastre Medina 
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:00:04AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Oct 10 08:44, Jari Aalto wrote:
> > 2012-10-09 21:49 David Sastre Medina
> > |
> > | P.S. keychain (also a simple shell script) is orphaned, and there's a
> > | new version upstream, just in case you're interested.
> > 
> > New upstream release:
> 
> Err... hang on.  This package is officially maintained by Jonathan C.
> Allen.  I admit that we had no feedback from him since 2007, but it
> doesn't hurt to ask.
> 
> Jonathan?  Are you still with us in some way?  You are still officially
> maintainer of 5 packages, bsflite, keychain, naim, ncftp and tnef.
> None of them has been update since 2007, though...

I'm sorry. Somehow, I had the idea of keychain being orphaned already.
I tried searching the mail archives, but I could only find
this thread from some months ago:

http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-apps/2012-03/msg00082.html

Again, I apologize. Completely unintended.

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Re: ITP: makeself -- Utility to generate self-extractable archives

2012-10-09 Thread David Sastre Medina 
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 04:02:30PM +0300, Jari Aalto wrote:
> 2012-10-08 07:41 Steven Monai:
> | makeself is already in the Cygwin archive.
> Ok, good.

Jari,

If you want to take over mantainership of makeself, I have no
objections. According to its git log, there have been some minor improvements 
during 
this year.

P.S. keychain (also a simple shell script) is orphaned, and there's a
new version upstream, just in case you're interested.

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[RFU] base-files-4.1-2

2012-03-02 Thread David Sastre Medina 
Hello,

Please upload base-files-4.1-2.
I'd like to release 4.1-2 as a test release, so setup.hint has
changed, too.

http://crapsteak.org/cygwin/release/base-files/base-files-4.1-2.tar.bz2
http://crapsteak.org/cygwin/release/base-files/base-files-4.1-2.tar.bz2.sig
http://crapsteak.org/cygwin/release/base-files/setup.hint

I've left 4.1-1 as current and 4.1-2 as test. Please delete any older releases.

Thanks.

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[RFU] base-files-4.1-1

2012-02-27 Thread David Sastre Medina 
Hello,

Please upload base-files-4.1-1.

http://crapsteak.org/cygwin/release/base-files/base-files-4.1-1.tar.bz2
http://crapsteak.org/cygwin/release/base-files/base-files-4.1-1.tar.bz2.sig

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Re: [RFU] base-files-4.0-9 [BUGFIX]

2012-02-12 Thread David Sastre Medina 
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 04:10:54PM -0600, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 22:49 +0100, David Sastre Medina wrote:
> > http://crapsteak.org/cygwin/release/base-files/base-files-4.0-9.tar.bz2
> 
> Uploaded.  Should 4.0-7 and 4.0-8 be removed?

Yes. Thank you.

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[RFU] base-files-4.0-9 [BUGFIX]

2012-02-12 Thread David Sastre Medina 
Hello,

Sorry to bother again.
Please upload base-files-4.0-9. Contains a fix for the bug reported in
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2012-02/msg00352.html

http://crapsteak.org/cygwin/release/base-files/base-files-4.0-9.tar.bz2
http://crapsteak.org/cygwin/release/base-files/base-files-4.0-9.tar.bz2.sig

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[RFU] base-files 4.0-8 [BUGFIX]

2012-02-12 Thread David Sastre Medina 
Hello,

Please upload base-files-4.0-8.

http://crapsteak.org/cygwin/release/base-files/base-files-4.0-8.tar.bz2
http://crapsteak.org/cygwin/release/base-files/base-files-4.0-8.tar.bz2.sig

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[ RFU ] base-files-4.0-7

2012-02-10 Thread David Sastre Medina 
Hello,

Please upload base-files-4.0-7.

http://crapsteak.org/cygwin/release/base-files/base-files-4.0-7.tar.bz2
http://crapsteak.org/cygwin/release/base-files/base-files-4.0-7.tar.bz2.sig

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