Re: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 02:34:26AM +1000, Gareth Pearce wrote:
>In practice there is one niggle, the src package generates
>aspell-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2 already - but it's the amalgam of all of the other
>binary packages.  It produces aspell-bin.  Fixing this will probably only
>take me a couple of minutes (when I get the time say in a couple of days) -
>but I don't think that it should be a show stopper for uploading the rest
>now.
>Renaming the file and changing the hint files are trivial - I'm assuming you
>don't need me to upload them again?  If you do want me to do them then I'll
>do it whenever I see the reply which will be ... after I sleep probably.

I've downloaded everything already.  I'll move the directory now.

(Hmm.  Automatice md5 checksumming of directories in ~ftp seems to be
broken.  Wonderful.)

cgf


RE: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-18 Thread Gareth Pearce
> >AFAIC, we're ready.
> >I'll repeat the URLs for the dictionaries:
> >
> >04be855c088559b4682b5495510234fe *aspell-en-0.51.0-1-src.tar.bz2
> >http://rlc.unsane.co.uk/aspell-en-0.51.0-1-src.tar.bz2
> >33fad88cd4d517596ebab42d368ba750 *aspell-en-0.51.0-1.tar.bz2
> >http://rlc.unsane.co.uk/aspell-en-0.51.0-1.tar.bz2
> >
> >Gareth pointed to the following URLs in
> >http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-09/msg00176.html:
> >
> >http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-0.50.3-1-src.tar.bz2
> >http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-bin-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
> >http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-bin.setup.hint
> >http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-dev-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
> >http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-dev.setup.hint
> >http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-doc-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
> >http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-doc.setup.hint
> >http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/libaspell15-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
> >http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/libaspell15.setup.hint
> >
> >Gareth says in http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-09/msg00179.html
> >that there's no need to mark them as test, despite the fact that the gcc
> >he used is still marked as such. Personally, I'd mark at least aspell-dev
> >as test, seeing as that contains the files that won't work with the
> current
> >gcc, but it's his call (he's the maintainer, after all :)
> 
> I hate to do this at this late point (and I *really* hate it when people
> do it to me) but I didn't notice the slightly nonstandard practice of
> naming the binary 'aspell-bin'.  I'd like to change that.  Otherwise
> we have a base package which only contains source, which is also
> unusual.  I'd prefer to "mv aspell-{bin-,}0.50.3-1.tar.bz2" and
> put it at the top level of the aspell directory and move everything else
> underneath it.
> 
> Gareth, do you have a problem with that?

I have no problem with either of the above 2 points in theory... both the
rename and the marking of aspell-dev as test. (and adding dependency on
aspell-en - from other email)
In practice there is one niggle, the src package generates
aspell-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2 already - but it's the amalgam of all of the other
binary packages.  It produces aspell-bin.  Fixing this will probably only
take me a couple of minutes (when I get the time say in a couple of days) -
but I don't think that it should be a show stopper for uploading the rest
now.
Renaming the file and changing the hint files are trivial - I'm assuming you
don't need me to upload them again?  If you do want me to do them then I'll
do it whenever I see the reply which will be ... after I sleep probably.

Regards,
Gareth


Re: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-18 Thread Ronald Landheer-Cieslak
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 11:30:32AM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 11:17:44AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> > >I hate to do this at this late point (and I *really* hate it when people
> > >do it to me) but I didn't notice the slightly nonstandard practice of
> > >naming the binary 'aspell-bin'.  I'd like to change that.  Otherwise
> > >we have a base package which only contains source, which is also
> > >unusual.  I'd prefer to "mv aspell-{bin-,}0.50.3-1.tar.bz2" and
> > >put it at the top level of the aspell directory and move everything else
> > >underneath it.
> > >
> > >Gareth, do you have a problem with that?
> >
> > And another point -- I'd like to make aspell depend on aspell-en.
> > Otherwise, I suspect that the cygwin mailing list will be constantly
> > complaining about aspell not working.
> >
> > cgf
> 
> There's no setup.hint for the aspell-en package (which, I assume, will
> depend on aspell).
OK, OK, it's a long while ago, but there actually was one in
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-06/msg00161.html:

@ aspell-en
sdesc: "Aspell english dictionary"
requires: cygwin aspell
category: Utils

> BTW, beware of circular dependences -- if both aspell
> and aspell-en have postinstall scripts, and the one in aspell-en uses
> aspell, it might be run before aspell's postinstall script runs, so aspell
> may be in an inconsistent state.  I don't think this is a problem, but the
> maintainers should both be aware of this and coordinate the postinstall
> scripts.
Aspell-en doesn't have a post-install script.

rlc

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hits the paper.


Re: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-18 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 11:17:44AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >I hate to do this at this late point (and I *really* hate it when people
> >do it to me) but I didn't notice the slightly nonstandard practice of
> >naming the binary 'aspell-bin'.  I'd like to change that.  Otherwise
> >we have a base package which only contains source, which is also
> >unusual.  I'd prefer to "mv aspell-{bin-,}0.50.3-1.tar.bz2" and
> >put it at the top level of the aspell directory and move everything else
> >underneath it.
> >
> >Gareth, do you have a problem with that?
>
> And another point -- I'd like to make aspell depend on aspell-en.
> Otherwise, I suspect that the cygwin mailing list will be constantly
> complaining about aspell not working.
>
> cgf

There's no setup.hint for the aspell-en package (which, I assume, will
depend on aspell).  BTW, beware of circular dependences -- if both aspell
and aspell-en have postinstall scripts, and the one in aspell-en uses
aspell, it might be run before aspell's postinstall script runs, so aspell
may be in an inconsistent state.  I don't think this is a problem, but the
maintainers should both be aware of this and coordinate the postinstall
scripts.

BTW, I don't have time to look now, but if setup's topological sort
traverses loops alphabetically, the above may be a red herring anyway
(i.e., aspell will always execute before aspell-en in that case).
Igor
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Re: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 11:17:44AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>I hate to do this at this late point (and I *really* hate it when people
>do it to me) but I didn't notice the slightly nonstandard practice of
>naming the binary 'aspell-bin'.  I'd like to change that.  Otherwise
>we have a base package which only contains source, which is also
>unusual.  I'd prefer to "mv aspell-{bin-,}0.50.3-1.tar.bz2" and
>put it at the top level of the aspell directory and move everything else
>underneath it.
>
>Gareth, do you have a problem with that?

And another point -- I'd like to make aspell depend on aspell-en.
Otherwise, I suspect that the cygwin mailing list will be constantly
complaining about aspell not working.

cgf


Re: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 05:40:28PM +0200, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 10:46:47AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 01:24:20AM +1000, Gareth Pearce wrote:
>
>> >inspired by this hat - I ask ... is there anything stoping us doing the
>> >coordinated release of the aspell and dictionary this weekend?  I was fairly
>> >sure that the last available version (which was compiled by rlc not me, but
>> >otherwise was perfectly normal) didnt recieve any aditional feedback.
>> >
>> >Gareth - the not-quite-just-yet owner of the new-but-not-spiffy aspell
>> >maintainership hat.
>> 
>> What was the answer to this question?  I've wanted [ai]spell in the
>> distribution for a long time and I'm anxious to get something in. 
>> Are we ready?  If so, point me at a URL and I'll download it.
>AFAIC, we're ready.
>I'll repeat the URLs for the dictionaries:
>
>04be855c088559b4682b5495510234fe *aspell-en-0.51.0-1-src.tar.bz2
>http://rlc.unsane.co.uk/aspell-en-0.51.0-1-src.tar.bz2
>33fad88cd4d517596ebab42d368ba750 *aspell-en-0.51.0-1.tar.bz2
>http://rlc.unsane.co.uk/aspell-en-0.51.0-1.tar.bz2
>
>Gareth pointed to the following URLs in
>http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-09/msg00176.html:
>
>http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-0.50.3-1-src.tar.bz2
>http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-bin-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
>http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-bin.setup.hint
>http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-dev-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
>http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-dev.setup.hint
>http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-doc-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
>http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-doc.setup.hint
>http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/libaspell15-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
>http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/libaspell15.setup.hint
>
>Gareth says in http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-09/msg00179.html
>that there's no need to mark them as test, despite the fact that the gcc
>he used is still marked as such. Personally, I'd mark at least aspell-dev 
>as test, seeing as that contains the files that won't work with the current
>gcc, but it's his call (he's the maintainer, after all :)

I hate to do this at this late point (and I *really* hate it when people
do it to me) but I didn't notice the slightly nonstandard practice of
naming the binary 'aspell-bin'.  I'd like to change that.  Otherwise
we have a base package which only contains source, which is also
unusual.  I'd prefer to "mv aspell-{bin-,}0.50.3-1.tar.bz2" and
put it at the top level of the aspell directory and move everything else
underneath it.

Gareth, do you have a problem with that?

cgf


Re: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-18 Thread Ronald Landheer-Cieslak
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 10:46:47AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 01:24:20AM +1000, Gareth Pearce wrote:

> >inspired by this hat - I ask ... is there anything stoping us doing the
> >coordinated release of the aspell and dictionary this weekend?  I was fairly
> >sure that the last available version (which was compiled by rlc not me, but
> >otherwise was perfectly normal) didnt recieve any aditional feedback.
> >
> >Gareth - the not-quite-just-yet owner of the new-but-not-spiffy aspell
> >maintainership hat.
> 
> What was the answer to this question?  I've wanted [ai]spell in the
> distribution for a long time and I'm anxious to get something in. 
> Are we ready?  If so, point me at a URL and I'll download it.
AFAIC, we're ready.
I'll repeat the URLs for the dictionaries:

04be855c088559b4682b5495510234fe *aspell-en-0.51.0-1-src.tar.bz2
http://rlc.unsane.co.uk/aspell-en-0.51.0-1-src.tar.bz2
33fad88cd4d517596ebab42d368ba750 *aspell-en-0.51.0-1.tar.bz2
http://rlc.unsane.co.uk/aspell-en-0.51.0-1.tar.bz2

Gareth pointed to the following URLs in
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-09/msg00176.html:

http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-0.50.3-1-src.tar.bz2
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-bin-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-bin.setup.hint
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-dev-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-dev.setup.hint
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-doc-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-doc.setup.hint
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/libaspell15-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/libaspell15.setup.hint

Gareth says in http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-09/msg00179.html
that there's no need to mark them as test, despite the fact that the gcc
he used is still marked as such. Personally, I'd mark at least aspell-dev 
as test, seeing as that contains the files that won't work with the current
gcc, but it's his call (he's the maintainer, after all :)

rlc

-- 
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Re: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 01:24:20AM +1000, Gareth Pearce wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> 
>>++
>>| BB |  <-- my spiffy new Cygwin Bash Maintainer Hat ;)
>>| AA |
>>| SS |
>>| HH |
>>  +-Cygwin-+
>>   | o  o |
>>   |  ||  |
>>   \ \__/ /
>>\/
>> 
>
>inspired by this hat - I ask ... is there anything stoping us doing the
>coordinated release of the aspell and dictionary this weekend?  I was fairly
>sure that the last available version (which was compiled by rlc not me, but
>otherwise was perfectly normal) didnt recieve any aditional feedback.
>
>Gareth - the not-quite-just-yet owner of the new-but-not-spiffy aspell
>maintainership hat.

What was the answer to this question?  I've wanted [ai]spell in the distribution
for a long time and I'm anxious to get something in.  Are we ready?  If so,
point me at a URL and I'll download it.

cgf


Re: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-15 Thread Gareth Pearce
Doh - i forgot gcc 3.3.1 is 'test' - but indeed - if theres Anyone who wants
to develop with libaspell before gcc test version goes real - i think they
can use the test ... no?

I dont really think that aspell needs to be marked as test because of this.

Gareth

> You haven't marked them as "test" while gcc-3.3.1 isn't canonical yet. It
> won't harm (much) I think, but it might if someone wants to go ahead and
> develop something with libaspell..
>
> rlc


Re: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-15 Thread Ronald Landheer-Cieslak
FWIW, the dictionary files are now here:
04be855c088559b4682b5495510234fe *aspell-en-0.51.0-1-src.tar.bz2
http://rlc.unsane.co.uk/aspell-en-0.51.0-1-src.tar.bz2
33fad88cd4d517596ebab42d368ba750 *aspell-en-0.51.0-1.tar.bz2
http://rlc.unsane.co.uk/aspell-en-0.51.0-1.tar.bz2

I did not regenerate them (mostly because I haven't installed Gareth's latest
aspell yet). If regeneration is necessary, I'll do it shortly :)

rlc

On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 03:53:38PM +0200, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote:
> You haven't marked them as "test" while gcc-3.3.1 isn't canonical yet. It
> won't harm (much) I think, but it might if someone wants to go ahead and
> develop something with libaspell..
> 
> rlc
> 
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 10:53:52PM +1000, Gareth Pearce wrote:
> > > > inspired by this hat - I ask ... is there anything stoping us doing the
> > > > coordinated release of the aspell and dictionary this weekend?  I was
> > fairly
> > > > sure that the last available version (which was compiled by rlc not me,
> > but
> > > > otherwise was perfectly normal) didnt recieve any aditional feedback.
> > > >
> > > > Gareth - the not-quite-just-yet owner of the new-but-not-spiffy aspell
> > > > maintainership hat.
> > > Your hat isn't spiffy?
> > > Anyways, AFAIC, Aspell is ready to roll..
> > > I just don't remember whether what I put on my site is still there..
> > > hmm..
> > > [checking]
> > > hmm.. no longer there..
> > > Do you still have them, Gareth, or should I make them available again?
> > 
> > okay - recompiled with gcc 3.3.1 (libaspell is c++ library) - and appearing
> > all nice and functional. (for me at least)
> > 
> > ready for upload?
> > 
> > http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-0.50.3-1-src.tar.bz2
> > http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-bin-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
> > http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-bin.setup.hint
> > http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-dev-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
> > http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-dev.setup.hint
> > http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-doc-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
> > http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-doc.setup.hint
> > http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/libaspell15-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
> > http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/libaspell15.setup.hint
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Gareth
> 
> -- 
> Well, the handwriting is on the floor.
>   -- Joe E. Lewis

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Re: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-15 Thread Ronald Landheer-Cieslak
You haven't marked them as "test" while gcc-3.3.1 isn't canonical yet. It
won't harm (much) I think, but it might if someone wants to go ahead and
develop something with libaspell..

rlc

On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 10:53:52PM +1000, Gareth Pearce wrote:
> > > inspired by this hat - I ask ... is there anything stoping us doing the
> > > coordinated release of the aspell and dictionary this weekend?  I was
> fairly
> > > sure that the last available version (which was compiled by rlc not me,
> but
> > > otherwise was perfectly normal) didnt recieve any aditional feedback.
> > >
> > > Gareth - the not-quite-just-yet owner of the new-but-not-spiffy aspell
> > > maintainership hat.
> > Your hat isn't spiffy?
> > Anyways, AFAIC, Aspell is ready to roll..
> > I just don't remember whether what I put on my site is still there..
> > hmm..
> > [checking]
> > hmm.. no longer there..
> > Do you still have them, Gareth, or should I make them available again?
> 
> okay - recompiled with gcc 3.3.1 (libaspell is c++ library) - and appearing
> all nice and functional. (for me at least)
> 
> ready for upload?
> 
> http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-0.50.3-1-src.tar.bz2
> http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-bin-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
> http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-bin.setup.hint
> http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-dev-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
> http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-dev.setup.hint
> http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-doc-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
> http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-doc.setup.hint
> http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/libaspell15-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
> http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/libaspell15.setup.hint
> 
> Regards,
> Gareth

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-- Joe E. Lewis


Re: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-15 Thread Gareth Pearce
> > inspired by this hat - I ask ... is there anything stoping us doing the
> > coordinated release of the aspell and dictionary this weekend?  I was
fairly
> > sure that the last available version (which was compiled by rlc not me,
but
> > otherwise was perfectly normal) didnt recieve any aditional feedback.
> >
> > Gareth - the not-quite-just-yet owner of the new-but-not-spiffy aspell
> > maintainership hat.
> Your hat isn't spiffy?
> Anyways, AFAIC, Aspell is ready to roll..
> I just don't remember whether what I put on my site is still there..
> hmm..
> [checking]
> hmm.. no longer there..
> Do you still have them, Gareth, or should I make them available again?

okay - recompiled with gcc 3.3.1 (libaspell is c++ library) - and appearing
all nice and functional. (for me at least)

ready for upload?

http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-0.50.3-1-src.tar.bz2
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-bin-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-bin.setup.hint
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-dev-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-dev.setup.hint
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-doc-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/aspell-doc.setup.hint
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/libaspell15-0.50.3-1.tar.bz2
http://www.users.on.net/gpearce/libaspell15.setup.hint

Regards,
Gareth


Re: Aspell ... (ready?)

2003-09-15 Thread Ronald Landheer-Cieslak
On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 01:24:20AM +1000, Gareth Pearce wrote:
> 
> > -- 
> > 
> >++
> >| BB |  <-- my spiffy new Cygwin Bash Maintainer Hat ;)
> >| AA |
> >| SS |
> >| HH |
> >  +-Cygwin-+
> >   | o  o |
> >   |  ||  |
> >   \ \__/ /
> >\/
> > 
> 
> inspired by this hat - I ask ... is there anything stoping us doing the
> coordinated release of the aspell and dictionary this weekend?  I was fairly
> sure that the last available version (which was compiled by rlc not me, but
> otherwise was perfectly normal) didnt recieve any aditional feedback.
> 
> Gareth - the not-quite-just-yet owner of the new-but-not-spiffy aspell
> maintainership hat.
Your hat isn't spiffy?
Anyways, AFAIC, Aspell is ready to roll.. 
I just don't remember whether what I put on my site is still there..
hmm..
[checking]
hmm.. no longer there..
Do you still have them, Gareth, or should I make them available again?

rlc

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