Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-25 Thread Lapo Luchini
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Volker Quetschke wrote:
| http://www.scytek.de/cygwin/release/gnupg/setup.hint
| http://www.scytek.de/cygwin/release/gnupg/gnupg-1.2.4-1.tar.bz2
| http://www.scytek.de/cygwin/release/gnupg/gnupg-1.2.4-1-src.tar.bz2
version: 1.2.4-1
install: release/gnupg/gnupg-1.2.4-1.tar.bz2 1069953
3dbda86bf20b3965e70e2d6bab47f3c9
source: release/gnupg/gnupg-1.2.4-1-src.tar.bz2 2419600
4de8131f05fc2c7b53a58b2c49bdc44c
[prev]
version: 1.2.2-3
install: release/gnupg/gnupg-1.2.2-3.tar.bz2 985280
dd913d7652807e0b72c1229bd5ad282f
source: release/gnupg/gnupg-1.2.2-3-src.tar.bz2 3261728
100770ae4a9b443108902e373ccee55a
Oh, quite a decrease, in binary file size! 0_o

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Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-24 Thread Volker Quetschke
Hmm, I had the 1.2.4 version ready for a while, but forgot to mention
it.
I was asked for the links, here they are:

Changes since version 1.2.2-3:

* New upstream version

NOTES
-
You find build instructions for a windows native executable (MinGW)
after unpacking the source (see gnupg.README for details) in:
  /usr/src/gnupg-1.2.4-X/CYGWIN-PATCHES/gnupg.MinGW.README
The source package contains the original's package detached gpg
signature of the author and detached signatures of the patch file
and the build/packaging script signed by me.
Here are the URLs:

http://www.scytek.de/cygwin/release/gnupg/setup.hint
http://www.scytek.de/cygwin/release/gnupg/gnupg-1.2.4-1.tar.bz2
http://www.scytek.de/cygwin/release/gnupg/gnupg-1.2.4-1-src.tar.bz2
   Volker

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Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-23 Thread Andreas Seidl
Volker Quetschke wrote:

Hmm, I had the 1.2.4 version ready for a while, but forgot to mention
it.
Now it's too late. Anyone here with a bit web/ftp space to host the 
cygwin package? (Preferably in europe?)

Volker
(Former cygwin gnupg mainainer)
Feel free to post the links or to email me the packages and the 
setup.hint file. For some time, I can put them on a server in Germany.

Andreas.
(Almost future cygwin ccrypt maintainer)


Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-23 Thread Lapo
Volker Quetschke wrote:
Now it's too late. Anyone here with a bit web/ftp space to host the 
cygwin package? (Preferably in europe?)
I guess the nice guts at gnupg.org would be happy to host a /cygwin/ 
directory in their FTP and put in the web page: cygwin users out there 
can just add this source to they setup.exe to continue use gnupg (of 
course we'd have to create setup.ini also, but that is not a problem at 
all, for a single package...)

Anyway, I guess we're a bit OT here, now... =(

BTW: if you could also send me the source package by email I'd like to 
install it ;-)

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RE: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-23 Thread Jörg Schaible
Christopher Faylor wrote on Monday, February 23, 2004 12:38 AM:
 
 Hmm.  I guess I haven't been as diligent as I should have been.  I've
 pulled gnupg from the distribution.
 

Wouldn't this be a candidate for a source only distrubution with a postbuild script 
that complies and installs the package ?

Regards,
Jörg


Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-23 Thread Reini Urban
Andreas Seidl schrieb:
Volker Quetschke wrote:
Now it's too late. Anyone here with a bit web/ftp space to host the 
cygwin package? (Preferably in europe?)
 
Feel free to post the links or to email me the packages and the 
setup.hint file. For some time, I can put them on a server in Germany.
And please the zip und unzip packages with en-/decryption also.

I also have enough space available. (disabled anonymous FTP, HTTP only)
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RE: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-23 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Jörg Schaible wrote:

 Christopher Faylor wrote on Monday, February 23, 2004 12:38 AM:
 
  Hmm.  I guess I haven't been as diligent as I should have been.  I've
  pulled gnupg from the distribution.
 

 Wouldn't this be a candidate for a source only distrubution with a
 postbuild script that complies and installs the package ?

 Regards,
 Jörg

FWIW, that's basically what I was thinking about in
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg00233.html.
Igor
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RE: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-23 Thread Jörg Schaible
Igor Pechtchanski wrote on Monday, February 23, 2004 2:29 PM:

 On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Jörg Schaible wrote:
 Wouldn't this be a candidate for a source only distrubution with a
 postbuild script that complies and installs the package ?
 
 Regards,
 Jörg
 
 FWIW, that's basically what I was thinking about in
 http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004- 02/msg00233.html.
   Igor

Welcome to Gentoo :)


Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-22 Thread Andreas Seidl
Lapo wrote:
Daniel Reed wrote:

| Package: ccrypt 1.6-2  [2004-01-20]
| Description: A utility for encrypting and decrypting files and streams
|Proposer: Andreas Seidl
|Proposal: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-01/msg00112.html
|Release directory (for use with setup.exe):
|  http://alice.fmi.uni-passau.de/~seidl/cygwin/
|
http://alice.fmi.uni-passau.de/~seidl/cygwin/release/ccrypt/ccrypt-1.6-2.tar.bz2 

|
http://alice.fmi.uni-passau.de/~seidl/cygwin/release/ccrypt/ccrypt-1.6-2-src.tar.bz2 

|
http://alice.fmi.uni-passau.de/~seidl/cygwin/release/ccrypt/setup.hint
|  Status: Attained required 3 votes. Package available.
|HOLD-UPS: No good to go review.
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-12/msg00288.html
+
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg8.html
I don't think we really need some emacs expert to check those .el and
.elc files before accepting it?
As written in

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg9.html

I tried it and they worked; to my understanding, there can't / needn't 
be done more.

However, a new problem might have popped up. Reading this thread

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg01103.html

I wonder if there are legal problems for RedHat to distribute the ccrypt 
package?

Andreas.




Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-22 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 07:39:49PM +0100, Andreas Seidl wrote:
However, a new problem might have popped up. Reading this thread

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg01103.html

I wonder if there are legal problems for RedHat to distribute the ccrypt 
package?

You're right.  There are.

That means this package is removed from consideration.  Sorry.

cgf


Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-22 Thread Nicholas Wourms
cgf wrote:

On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 07:39:49PM +0100, Andreas Seidl wrote:

However, a new problem might have popped up. Reading this thread

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg01103.html

I wonder if there are legal problems for RedHat to distribute the ccrypt 
package?

Andreas,

Next time, please keep it to yourself.

Cheers,
Nicholas


Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-22 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 04:27:06PM -0500, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
cgf wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 07:39:49PM +0100, Andreas Seidl wrote:
However, a new problem might have popped up. Reading this thread
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg01103.html

I wonder if there are legal problems for RedHat to distribute the ccrypt 
package?

Next time, please keep it to yourself.

I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy it if Red Hat was taken to task for
something that could have been caught early, decided that cygwin wasn't
worth the hassle, and pulled it from sources.redhat.com.

But, hey, thanks for clarifying just whom I can trust to be watching out
for the project's interests.


Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-22 Thread Nicholas Wourms
cgf wrote:

On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 04:27:06PM -0500, Nicholas Wourms wrote:

cgf wrote:

On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 07:39:49PM +0100, Andreas Seidl wrote:

However, a new problem might have popped up. Reading this thread
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg01103.html
I wonder if there are legal problems for RedHat to distribute the ccrypt 
package?
Next time, please keep it to yourself.


I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy it if Red Hat was taken to task for
something that could have been caught early, decided that cygwin wasn't
worth the hassle, and pulled it from sources.redhat.com.
No, I wouldn't, but I didn't intend on that being the only statement. 
Consider this:  The gpg which we distribute contains the *exact* same 
cipher, AES{128,192,256}, as ccrypt plus gpg also has twofish  
blowfish.  The last time I checked, those two were also considered 
strong encryption ciphers.  Moreover, gpg can be used encrypt and 
decrypt streams like ccrypt so, in a sense, they share similar 
functionality.  That's where I see the disconnect.  Does this mean we 
should ditch gpg as well or distribute a version with  128bit ciphers? 
 Frankly, I don't see why we should disqualified ccrypt because someone 
thinks it might be a problem.  Is it *really* a problem?

By his standard, RedHat has been breaking the law for years now, which 
leads me to conclude that either:
A)The authorities don't care.
B)Red Hat doesn't care.
or
C)RedHat already has filed the necessary paperwork to allow it to 
distribute binaries with strong encryption.

But, hey, thanks for clarifying just whom I can trust to be watching out
for the project's interests.
Hey, you certainly have a right to your opinion.  The reality is that I 
was trying to paste some text and accidentally sent that message before 
it was complete.  This reply contains some of the arguments I was 
planning on including in that message to debunk his theory.  Oh well, 
that's all water under the bridge, believe what you want to believe... 
I suppose I'll never get a gold star now ;-).

Cheers,
Nicholas
[1] The output of `gpg --help`:
Supported algorithms:
Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA, ELG
Cipher: 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH
Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256
Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB



Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-22 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 05:53:47PM -0500, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
cgf wrote:

On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 04:27:06PM -0500, Nicholas Wourms wrote:

cgf wrote:

On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 07:39:49PM +0100, Andreas Seidl wrote:

However, a new problem might have popped up. Reading this thread
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg01103.html

I wonder if there are legal problems for RedHat to distribute the 
ccrypt package?

Next time, please keep it to yourself.


I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy it if Red Hat was taken to task for
something that could have been caught early, decided that cygwin wasn't
worth the hassle, and pulled it from sources.redhat.com.


No, I wouldn't, but I didn't intend on that being the only statement. 
Consider this:  The gpg which we distribute contains the *exact* same 
cipher, AES{128,192,256}, as ccrypt plus gpg also has twofish  
blowfish.


The last time I checked, those two were also considered 
strong encryption ciphers.  Moreover, gpg can be used encrypt and 
decrypt streams like ccrypt so, in a sense, they share similar 
functionality.  That's where I see the disconnect.  Does this mean we 
should ditch gpg as well or distribute a version with  128bit ciphers? 
 Frankly, I don't see why we should disqualified ccrypt because someone 
thinks it might be a problem.  Is it *really* a problem?

By his standard, RedHat has been breaking the law for years now, which 
leads me to conclude that either:
A)The authorities don't care.
B)Red Hat doesn't care.
or
C)RedHat already has filed the necessary paperwork to allow it to 
distribute binaries with strong encryption.

Hmm.  I guess I haven't been as diligent as I should have been.  I've
pulled gnupg from the distribution.

But, hey, thanks for clarifying just whom I can trust to be watching out
for the project's interests.

Hey, you certainly have a right to your opinion.  The reality is that I 
was trying to paste some text and accidentally sent that message before 
it was complete.

Yeah, isn't that always a convenient excuse?

This reply contains some of the arguments I was planning on including
in that message to debunk his theory.  Oh well, that's all water under
the bridge, believe what you want to believe...  I suppose I'll never
get a gold star now ;-).

Thanks.  I will certainly believe what i want to believe.  I'd have a
hard time not doing that, in fact.

cgf


Re: Possible legal problem with ccrypt? [Was: Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13]

2004-02-22 Thread Volker Quetschke
No, I wouldn't, but I didn't intend on that being the only statement. 
Consider this:  The gpg which we distribute contains the *exact* same 
cipher, AES{128,192,256}, as ccrypt plus gpg also has twofish  
blowfish.
The last time I checked, those two were also considered 

strong encryption ciphers.  Moreover, gpg can be used encrypt and 
decrypt streams like ccrypt so, in a sense, they share similar 
functionality.  That's where I see the disconnect.  Does this mean we 
should ditch gpg as well or distribute a version with  128bit ciphers? 
Frankly, I don't see why we should disqualified ccrypt because someone 
thinks it might be a problem.  Is it *really* a problem?

By his standard, RedHat has been breaking the law for years now, which 
leads me to conclude that either:
A)The authorities don't care.
B)Red Hat doesn't care.
or
C)RedHat already has filed the necessary paperwork to allow it to 
distribute binaries with strong encryption.
Hmm.  I guess I haven't been as diligent as I should have been.  I've
pulled gnupg from the distribution.
Hmm, I had the 1.2.4 version ready for a while, but forgot to mention
it.
Now it's too late. Anyone here with a bit web/ftp space to host the 
cygwin package? (Preferably in europe?)

Volker
(Former cygwin gnupg mainainer)
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Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13

2004-02-20 Thread Lapo
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Daniel Reed wrote:

| Package: ccrypt 1.6-2  [2004-01-20]
| Description: A utility for encrypting and decrypting files and streams
|Proposer: Andreas Seidl
|Proposal: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-01/msg00112.html
|Release directory (for use with setup.exe):
|  http://alice.fmi.uni-passau.de/~seidl/cygwin/
|
http://alice.fmi.uni-passau.de/~seidl/cygwin/release/ccrypt/ccrypt-1.6-2.tar.bz2
|
http://alice.fmi.uni-passau.de/~seidl/cygwin/release/ccrypt/ccrypt-1.6-2-src.tar.bz2
|
http://alice.fmi.uni-passau.de/~seidl/cygwin/release/ccrypt/setup.hint
|  Status: Attained required 3 votes. Package available.
|HOLD-UPS: No good to go review.
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-12/msg00288.html
+
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg8.html
I don't think we really need some emacs expert to check those .el and
.elc files before accepting it?
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Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13

2004-02-16 Thread Jari Aalto+mail.linux
* 2004-02-13 Daniel Reed nmlorg AT cygwin.com list.cygwin-apps
* Message-Id: 20040213170003.12333.qmail AT sources.redhat.com


| Package: ploticus 2.11-1  [2003-09-15]
| Description: Command line driven tool to generates various plots and graphs
|Proposer: Jari Aalto
|Proposal: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-09/msg00165.html
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/ploticus/ploticus-2.11-1.tar.bz2
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/ploticus/ploticus-2.11-1-src.tar.bz2
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/ploticus/setup.hint
|Problems: 21943873id2602085 /usr/doc needs to be /usr/share/doc
|  21943873id2602090 No runtime requirement on zlib
|  21943873id2602094 Binary needs to be recompiled because there's no 
longer a libz.dll that it cannot load.
|  21943873id2602100 No man pages, source does come with manpages so they 
should be installed.
|  Status: Attained required 3 votes. Package available.
|HOLD-UPS: Unresolved problems. No good to go review.
| 
| 

Latest 2.20 (and 2.11) release won't build with current GD included in
Cygwin. I'm investigating this and have contacted upstream author.


| Package: sgrep 1.92.1-1  [2003-09-15]
| Description: Search indexed text regions like SGML, XML and HTML files
|Proposer: Jari Aalto
|Proposal: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-09/msg00166.html
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/sgrep/sgrep-1.92.1-1.tar.bz2
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/sgrep/sgrep-1.92.1-1-src.tar.bz2
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/sgrep/setup.hint
|  Good to go: Rafael Kitover
|  Status: Attained required 3 votes. Package available. Reviewed.
|HOLD-UPS:

repackaged 

mkdir sgrep ; cd sgrep
wget -q -O - http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/sgrep/get.sh | sh


| 
| Package: rdesktop 1.3.0-1  [2003-11-08]
| Description: client for Windows terminal server. Remote desktop display
|Proposer: Jari Aalto
|Proposal: mailto:cygwin-apps-thread.12041 AT cygwin.com
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/rdesktop/rdesktop-1.3.0-1.tar.bz2
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/rdesktop/rdesktop-1.3.0-1-src.tar.bz2
|  [no hint]
|Problems: 21943873id2602265 then, the installation don't add the man page because 
extract the rdesktop.1 in /usr/share/man1. the right place is /usr/share/man/man1
|  21943873id2602271 Source problems: See cygwin-apps-get.12303
|  Status: Attained required 3 votes. Package available.
|HOLD-UPS: Unresolved problems. No good to go review.

Problems fixed and repackaged

mkdir rdesktop ; cd rdesktop
wget -q -O - http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/rdesktop/get.sh | sh


| Package: joe 2.9.8-1  [2003-11-11]
| Description: Fast and simple editor which emulates 5 other editors
|Proposer: Jari Aalto
|Proposal: mailto:cygwin-apps-thread.12060 AT cygwin.com
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/joe/joe-2.9.8-1.tar.bz2
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/joe/joe-2.9.8-1-src.tar.bz2
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/joe/setup.hint
|  Good to go: Gerrit P. Haase
|  Status: Attained required 3 votes. Package available. Reviewed.
|HOLD-UPS:

repackaged 

mkdir boxes ; cd boxes
wget -q -O - http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/boxes/get.sh | sh

| 
| Package: boxes 2000.0401-1  [2004-01-29]
| Description: Text filter which can draw any kind of ASCII art box around its input 
text.
|Proposer: Jari Aalto
|Proposal: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-01/msg00246.html
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/boxes/boxes-2000.0401-1.tar.bz2
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/boxes/boxes-2000.0401-1-src.tar.bz2
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/boxes/setup.hint
|Problems: 21943873id2594723 The README reports the package version as 1.0.1.
|  21943873id2594728 Running the boxes.exe executable results in a boxes: 
Can't find config file. message.  Looks like it expects the config file in 
/usr/local/share/boxes.
|  21943873id2594734 The man page has a --GLOBALCONF-- string for the 
system-wide config file name -- should that have been replaced by something like 
/usr/share/boxes/boxes.cfg?
|  21943873id2594742 Source problems: See cygwin-apps-get.13000
|  Status: Attained required 3 votes. Package available.
|HOLD-UPS: Unresolved problems. No good to go review.
| 

Problems fixed and repackaged.

mkdir boxes ; cd boxes
wget -q -O - http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/boxes/get.sh | sh


| Package: gnuchess 5.07-1  [2004-02-09]
| Description: Play chess against computer opponent
|Proposer: Jari Aalto
|Proposal: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg00068.html
|  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/gnuchess/gnuchess-5.07-1.tar.bz2
|  

[Review - no go] boxes (Was Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13)

2004-02-16 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Jari Aalto+mail.linux wrote:

 * 2004-02-13 Daniel Reed nmlorg AT cygwin.com list.cygwin-apps

 | Package: joe 2.9.8-1  [2003-11-11]
 | Description: Fast and simple editor which emulates 5 other editors
 | [snip]
 |  Good to go: Gerrit P. Haase
 |  Status: Attained required 3 votes. Package available. Reviewed.
 |HOLD-UPS:

 repackaged

 mkdir boxes ; cd boxes
 wget -q -O - http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/boxes/get.sh | sh

BTW, should this be s/boxes/joe/g?

 | Package: boxes 2000.0401-1  [2004-01-29]
 | Description: Text filter which can draw any kind of ASCII art box around its input 
 text.
 |Proposer: Jari Aalto
 |Proposal: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-01/msg00246.html
 |  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/boxes/boxes-2000.0401-1.tar.bz2
 |  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/boxes/boxes-2000.0401-1-src.tar.bz2
 |  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/boxes/setup.hint
 |Problems: 21943873id2594723 The README reports the package version as 1.0.1.
 |  21943873id2594728 Running the boxes.exe executable results in a 
 boxes: Can't find config file. message.  Looks like it expects the config file in 
 /usr/local/share/boxes.
 |  21943873id2594734 The man page has a --GLOBALCONF-- string for the 
 system-wide config file name -- should that have been replaced by something like 
 /usr/share/boxes/boxes.cfg?
 |  21943873id2594742 Source problems: See cygwin-apps-get.13000
 |  Status: Attained required 3 votes. Package available.
 |HOLD-UPS: Unresolved problems. No good to go review.

 Problems fixed and repackaged.

 mkdir boxes ; cd boxes
 wget -q -O - http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/boxes/get.sh | sh

Ok, here's a second review.  Problems (and nits) outlined below:

setup.hint:

1) ldesc has leftover hyphenation (pro- gramming), and is all on one
line.

Binary package:

2) The man page reports This is boxes version --BVERSION--., and still
has the --GLOBALCONF-- string.  Something wrong with macro substitution,
perhaps?

3) The Cygwin-specific readme still indicates 1.3.22 as the minimum Cygwin
version.

Otherwise the binary package looks good.
Now for the source package:

-- patch

4) The patch contains boxes.README and boxes.README.b (the latter being
the old version of the README, AFAICS).

5) The patch to the Makefile changes the value of GLOBALCONF, but there's
a build.sh script in the patch that explicitly passes GLOBALCONF to make.
That's overkill, IMO -- the build.sh script isn't necessary for this.

6) Is there a reason you remove boxes.1 (a generated file) via patch?
This is where build.sh can come in handy (and make the patch smaller ;-).

7) There's a typo in the patch for src/Makefile: +exec_prefix = $(refix).
Frankly, I don't see how this ever built correctly...

-- script

8) The script will put the build files in /usr/src/cygwin-packages.  I do
NOT want any script to muck with my /usr/src unless I run it from there.
The package build should be contained under the current directory.

9) The build produces some warnings (mostly implicit declaration --
missing headers?).

10) Looking at the output, the script excludes generated files from the
patch, but, apparently, doesn't pick up boxes.1 as a generated file...
This could explain 6) above.

11) The usr/share/man, usr/share/doc/boxes-2401, and usr/share/boxes
directories (and their subdirectories) end up as non-executable in the
binary tarball created by the script (wrong flags to install?).

12) The build doesn't happen in boxes-2401/.build, it happens directly
in boxes-2401...

13) The script leaves the boxes-2401 directory behind...  Don't know
if it should be expected to clean it up, though...

Some of the above are nits, but some (like the build script using
/usr/src) are serious.
Igor
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Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13

2004-02-13 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004, Daniel Reed wrote:

 This is the list of pending packages as of Friday, February 13, 2004.

Oh, yeah, Friday the 13th...  Is that, perhaps, why my comments from
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg00084.html didn't make it
in? ;-)

Let's try this again:

 [snip]

 Waiting for review: ploticus tclcl rdesktop rxp dx emacro dhcp tree \
 elinks sgml-base ccrypt boxes apache gnuchess xboard

Most of the packages above have been reviewed:
- ploticus: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg00028.html
- tclcl: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg00036.html
- rxp: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg00042.html
- dx: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-12/msg00097.html
- emacro: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg00050.html
- dhcp: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg00045.html
- tree: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-12/msg00265.html
- sgml-base: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg00047.html
  - and it may have been pulled by the original proposer
- ccrypt: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-12/msg00288.html
- boxes: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-01/msg00261.html

apache is an update of an existing package - does it need a review or
votes?

 Waiting for vote[s]: otcl dx emacro XmHTML TeXmacs apache xboard (GAP) (ns)
      ^^ ^^^
I believe I voted for the three packages above...  This should bring the
number of votes for otcl and TeXmacs to 3.

The packages below have no hold-ups.  What's holding them up? ;-)

 Package: sgrep 1.92.1-1  [2003-09-15]
 Package: joe 2.9.8-1  [2003-11-11]
 Package: aspell-de 0.50.2-1  [2004-01-30]
 Package: aspell-pl 0.50.2-1  [2004-01-30]

BTW, the last two above are dictionaries for an existing package -- should
they need votes?  Is there a way to mark them as vote-exempt, but still
needing reviews?

 Package: otcl 1.0.9-1  [2003-10-29]
 Package: TeXmacs 1.0.3.2-2  [2004-02-01]

These now have 3 votes each (counting mine), and they have no other
hold-ups.

 Package: xboard 4.2.7-1  [2004-02-09]
 Description: Graphical user interface for chess
   Aye votes: Yaakov Selkowitz [1/3]
  Gareth Pearce [2/3]
HOLD-UPS: Not enough votes (need 1 more). No good to go review.

I thought I voted for this, but guess not...  This now has my vote
(bringing the total to 3).

 ITP: tetrix  [2003-09-10]
 Description: ESR's curses-based version of Tetris
HOLD-UPS: No package, nothing to review!

 ITP: graphviz  [2003-09-25]
 Description: Open source graph drawing software
HOLD-UPS: No package, nothing to review!

 ITP: subversion 0.30-1  [2003-10-03]
 Description: Client for Subversion revision control system
HOLD-UPS: No package, nothing to review!

 ITP: GAP  [2003-10-06]
 Description: a famous group manipulation package
HOLD-UPS: Not enough votes (need 3). No package, nothing to review!

 ITP: ns  [2003-10-18]
 Description: The Network Simulator - ns-2
HOLD-UPS: Not enough votes (need 3). No package, nothing to review!

These have been on the PPL for ages with no activity.  Should there be a
timeout?
Igor
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RE: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13

2004-02-13 Thread Gareth Pearce

  Package: sgrep 1.92.1-1  [2003-09-15]
  Package: joe 2.9.8-1  [2003-11-11]
  Package: aspell-de 0.50.2-1  [2004-01-30]
  Package: aspell-pl 0.50.2-1  [2004-01-30]
 
 BTW, the last two above are dictionaries for an existing package -- should
 they need votes?  Is there a way to mark them as vote-exempt, but still
 needing reviews?

The last 2 also actually have all their votes and have been reviewed, only
hold up with that was discussion about internal versioning not matching
external versioning in some places.

  ITP: tetrix  [2003-09-10]
  Description: ESR's curses-based version of Tetris
 HOLD-UPS: No package, nothing to review!
 
  ITP: graphviz  [2003-09-25]
  Description: Open source graph drawing software
 HOLD-UPS: No package, nothing to review!
 
  ITP: subversion 0.30-1  [2003-10-03]
  Description: Client for Subversion revision control system
 HOLD-UPS: No package, nothing to review!
 
  ITP: GAP  [2003-10-06]
  Description: a famous group manipulation package
 HOLD-UPS: Not enough votes (need 3). No package, nothing to review!
 
  ITP: ns  [2003-10-18]
  Description: The Network Simulator - ns-2
 HOLD-UPS: Not enough votes (need 3). No package, nothing to review!
 
 These have been on the PPL for ages with no activity.  Should there be a
 timeout?

Perhaps ones which don't get enough votes should time out, but ones which
obtain the required votes before there is even a package, probably should be
left in a 'wanted' list - perhaps after a timeout drop the listing of having
someone who submitted the idea.

I still do intend to package graphviz just waiting for an appropriate amount
of time to spend on it.

Gareth Pearce
PS yes, I changed emails.





Re: Pending Packages List, 2004-02-13

2004-02-13 Thread Joshua Daniel Franklin
--- Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - sgml-base: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-02/msg00047.html
   - and it may have been pulled by the original proposer

Yes, let's pull this off the propsed package list.

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