Re: Cygwin Mailing Lists Disabled? Blocking Package Uploads?
On 2022-10-02 14:37, Jon Turney wrote:
On 02/10/2022 19:13, Brian Inglis wrote:
On 2022-10-02 05:20, Jon Turney wrote:
On 02/10/2022 08:23, Brian Inglis wrote:
Also I don't seem to be able to get on to any mailing list interface
to re-enable email to perhaps check status via email in public inbox.
I don't understand what this means.
Email retries are often visible under Sourceware Public Inbox e.g.
https://inbox.sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/202209252042.28pjfcqu021984-28pkg7ec017324-6w6r+pmrzmci6pmnw8x...@public.gmane.org/T/#u
It was unintentional that email bounces were ending up there, and has
been fixed.
Darn! ;^>
Any chance of maybe just appending to an mbox cleared after 24 hours old?
It would probably just be easier to arrange for upload reports to go to
a new mailing list, if we that something that is really wanted...
Wouldn't help me with Cygwin blocks ;^<
Meant just append to a mbox file under ~ e.g. ~/.mbox?
I keep having to comment out LICENSE after updates to the latest SPDX
keys, as it seems to block uploads!
The current situation is that a 'license:' key is not required in the
package hint, but if present, it's value must validate.
If you're having problems, please give an example of a something you
think is a valid SPDX license expression, but isn't accepted.
These had to be commented out recently:
../fortune-mod/fortune-mod.cygport:#LICENSE=BSD-4-Clause
../unifont/unifont.cygport:#LICENSE="GPL-2.0-with-font-exception AND
OFL-1.1"
although after further checking, it should have been OR, and is now:
LICENSE="(GPL-2.0-with-font-exception OR OFL-1.1) AND Public-Domain AND
GPL-2.0-or-later"
What are you using to validate licences in calm - PyPi spdx-tools?
I'm using license_expression
(See https://github.com/nexB/license-expression)
Thanks - will see what I can do with that.
Finally, do you have any advice on what to do about various US Public
Domain sources like tz{code,data} about which SPDX.org is still having
discussions?
I have submitted input asking them to add a tz/tzdb/zoneinfo PD
licence instance, and/or also something for other generic US.gov PD
sources, like they currently have for NIST, CC, Open Data Commons,
Sax, and libselinux.
But they closed an issue from a US.gov entity asking for a generic
US.gov PD licence for their documents!
For our purposes, you may use the string 'Public-Domain', in cases where
no license applies because the material has been placed in the public
domain.
Great - will use.
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Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Re: Cygwin Mailing Lists Disabled? Blocking Package Uploads?
On 02/10/2022 19:13, Brian Inglis wrote:
On 2022-10-02 05:20, Jon Turney wrote:
On 02/10/2022 08:23, Brian Inglis wrote:
Also I don't seem to be able to get on to any mailing list interface
to re-enable email to perhaps check status via email in public inbox.
I don't understand what this means.
Email retries are often visible under Sourceware Public Inbox e.g.
https://inbox.sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/202209252042.28pjfcqu021984-28pkg7ec017324-6w6r+pmrzmci6pmnw8x...@public.gmane.org/T/#u
It was unintentional that email bounces were ending up there, and has
been fixed.
Any chance of maybe just appending to an mbox cleared after 24 hours old?
It would probably just be easier to arrange for upload reports to go to
a new mailing list, if we that something that is really wanted...
I keep having to comment out LICENSE after updates to the latest SPDX
keys, as it seems to block uploads!
The current situation is that a 'license:' key is not required in the
package hint, but if present, it's value must validate.
If you're having problems, please give an example of a something you
think is a valid SPDX license expression, but isn't accepted.
What are you using to validate licences in calm - PyPi spdx-tools?
I'm using license_expression
(See https://github.com/nexB/license-expression)
Finally, do you have any advice on what to do about various US Public
Domain sources like tz{code,data} about which SPDX.org is still having
discussions?
I have submitted input asking them to add a tz/tzdb/zoneinfo PD licence
instance, and/or also something for other generic US.gov PD sources,
like they currently have for NIST, CC, Open Data Commons, Sax, and
libselinux.
But they closed an issue from a US.gov entity asking for a generic
US.gov PD licence for their documents!
For our purposes, you may use the string 'Public-Domain', in cases where
no license applies because the material has been placed in the public
domain.
Re: Cygwin Mailing Lists Disabled? Blocking Package Uploads?
On 2022-10-02 05:20, Jon Turney wrote:
On 02/10/2022 08:23, Brian Inglis wrote:
Hi folks,
Tried uploading package cpuid with and without LICENSE.
Neither seems to work (checked master setup.ini).
It seems like I broke calm when I updated it a couple of days ago. :(
Thanks for pointing this out.
I've repaired it, and your upload seems to have succeeded.
Thanks Jon,
Also I don't seem to be able to get on to any mailing list interface
to re-enable email to perhaps check status via email in public inbox.
I don't understand what this means.
Email retries are often visible under Sourceware Public Inbox e.g.
https://inbox.sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/202209252042.28pjfcqu021984-28pkg7ec017...@mx1.webnames.ca/T/#u
and I am now also monitoring the Cygwin lists via Atom Feeds in Chromium
Foxish RSS/Atom Feed reader extension.
Has the Cygwin mailing lists being disabled now blocking package uploads?
No.
Can someone please see if they can have a look and give me some hints
via DM.
Are there any other ways I can see any issues with package uploads?
If your ISP is blocking email from sourceware, I can only suggest
getting a free webmail from somewhere else, and arranging for upload
reports be sent there as well (see [1]).
Thanks for that reminder, I've added Direct ISP and Gmail - hopefully
one succeeds!
I'd did think that it would be nice to add a "recent uploads" report to
the web pages, but I'm unlikely to have any time to work on that.
[1] https://cygwin.com/package-upload.html#reports
Any chance of maybe just appending to an mbox cleared after 24 hours old?
P.S.
I keep having to comment out LICENSE after updates to the latest SPDX
keys, as it seems to block uploads!
What are you using to validate licences in calm - PyPi spdx-tools?
Finally, do you have any advice on what to do about various US Public
Domain sources like tz{code,data} about which SPDX.org is still having
discussions?
I have submitted input asking them to add a tz/tzdb/zoneinfo PD licence
instance, and/or also something for other generic US.gov PD sources,
like they currently have for NIST, CC, Open Data Commons, Sax, and
libselinux.
But they closed an issue from a US.gov entity asking for a generic
US.gov PD licence for their documents!
--
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains
too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised.
[Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]
Re: Cygwin Mailing Lists Disabled? Blocking Package Uploads?
On 02/10/2022 08:23, Brian Inglis wrote: Hi folks, Tried uploading package cpuid with and without LICENSE. Neither seems to work (checked master setup.ini). It seems like I broke calm when I updated it a couple of days ago. :( Thanks for pointing this out. I've repaired it, and your upload seems to have succeeded. Also I don't seem to be able to get on to any mailing list interface to re-enable email to perhaps check status via email in public inbox. I don't understand what this means. Has the Cygwin mailing lists being disabled now blocking package uploads? No. Can someone please see if they can have a look and give me some hints via DM. Are there any other ways I can see any issues with package uploads? If your ISP is blocking email from sourceware, I can only suggest getting a free webmail from somewhere else, and arranging for upload reports be sent there as well (see [1]). I'd did think that it would be nice to add a "recent uploads" report to the web pages, but I'm unlikely to have any time to work on that. [1] https://cygwin.com/package-upload.html#reports
